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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => NORTHSTAR'S ISOMETRIC MAP THEORY => Topic started by: bovic32 on September 26, 2011, 04:19:27 AM
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Bro NS,
Please evaluate my site with your method I want to try this maybe accurate as what I think...
Thanks in advance and more power....
Bovic32
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This area is a former garrison and japanese camp before.the coordinate:6deg 55.3min N 125deg 9.26min E
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B32
This is a perfect isometric pattern. Please check if this is the right orientation and compass bearing of the main main markers. Give also the distance between markers. The exact location of the site, so that I can point to you were to dig the regalo site.
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Bro.NS,
Thanks BTW.this is approximate from google earth the distance as follows:Mangga-Kaymito=109m, Kaymito-Hardplastic=119m, Hardplastic-Mangga=112m.see attachment.This is subject to re-survey for the exact distance of each marker.
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Bro B32
Please check the bearing also/ It's very important to get the exact bearing of the markers to get the exact treasure site.
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the orientation you gave I think that is right,if you see the google earth north direction is the same direction of yours.For the bearing,I dont know where the reference is,if I select star apple as my reference as bearing,the hard plastic one is about north-east direction
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B32
This is a perfect isometric pattern. Please check if this is the right orientation and compass bearing of the main main markers. Give also the distance between markers. The exact location of the site, so that I can point to you were to dig the regalo site.
But you rotated the map and changed the Google North to actually be Northwest now.
TW
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TW,
I think the orientation only rotate,to locate the bearing or reference as what NS asking for, is quite difficult for me to distiguish,because if I select the mango or mangga tree as my reference point,the hardplstic becomes SE direction,if my ref.point is starapple or kaymito tree that hard plastic becomes NE direction and the mangga or mango tree becomes NW direction.Because NS asking the bearing or reference point,so I think maybe the kaymito or star apple tree,this identification of bearing is quite hard for me.
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Basing on the distance given, the exact bearing would look like this. Better ask someone to go back to your area and get the exact bearing.
Admin
You are right with your analysis. It is NW, but maybe it's the true north direction
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Bro B32
Yes, get the bearing from star apple going to hard plastic and star apple to mango tree, then hard plastic to mango. i needed 3 angles only
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Bro B32
This will be the result if you apply the isometrics in your location
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Bro NS,
Thanks for your kind in my location.Are you in mindanao?my site is somewhre in Kidapawan.I can meet you there if ever I can be in my vacation.
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Bro NS,
Thanks for your kind in my location.Are you in mindanao?my site is somewhre in Kidapawan.I can meet you there if ever I can be in my vacation.
your welcome, Yes I am from davao. Kidapawan is a very positive treasure area. I will be in Kidapawan this coming mid october. Hope to see you soon.
God bless
Northstar
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B32
This is a perfect isometric pattern. Please check if this is the right orientation and compass bearing of the main main markers. Give also the distance between markers. The exact location of the site, so that I can point to you were to dig the regalo site.
But you rotated the map and changed the Google North to actually be Northwest now.
TW
From Geners Isometric Map Topic. NORTHSTAR to
TH44
It only shows in your explanations that you do not know how to read and position the map properly according to it's compass bearing. The north direction should always be on top or in front of you, not on the right or left side. Did you see that the north direction is facing upwards? That's why I rotate the map in correct orientation. Even my grade III grandson knew how to position the map properly, that the north should always upward or in front of you. Maybe you need to go back to grade school to understand basic map reading... Hehehe Grin
Grin Grin.
Your response to TW when he made a comment about you turning the Google Earth Map CCW. Maybe that is the True North, Hahaha, that is One Big Maybe. That was a Google Earth Map and it is in ERROR ? NS, what was said about Credibility, Ow Shucks, like talking to a wall. The NORTH should ALWAYS be on TOP or in front of you and here you are showing us YOUR RIGHT WAY, turn the map to suit your theory and now that Google Earth Map North is NW and your TRUE NORTH is NE, looking at the difference of your Revision, you are talking about 60 degrees, INCREDIBLE I might say.
What was the definition of THEORY again, OK, here it is again, The General or Abstract Principles of a Body of FACTS, take Note, FACTS. I suggest you talk and ask for some advise from your Robert Yugumachi or Yamaguchi or whatever is the name of that alter ego of yours.
Shall we go back to the Elementary Grade, which one was that again, hmmm, yep, Grade three, was that the grade that your Grandson learn to read Maps, hey, why not ask your Grandson to teach you, don't be bashful, I am sure your Grandson will be happy and elated to Teach his 37 year old Grandpa. Make sure to Reward your Grandson with a Chocolate Bar. ;D ??? ::)
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TH44
Better read this so that you will learn and stop pretending that I am wrong all the time.. ??? ??? ???
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Example of magnetic declination showing a compass needle with a "positive" (or "easterly") variation from geographic north.
Magnetic declination is the angle between magnetic north (the direction the north end of a compass needle points) and true north. The declination is positive when the magnetic north is east of true north. The term magnetic variation is a synonym, and is more often used in navigation. Isogonic lines are where the declination has the same value, and the lines where the declination is zero are called agonic lines.
Somewhat more formally, Bowditch defines variation as “the angle between the magnetic and geographic meridians at any place, expressed in degrees and minutes east or west to indicate the direction of magnetic north from true north. The angle between magnetic and grid meridians is called grid magnetic angle, grid variation, or grivation. Called magnetic variation when a distinction is needed to prevent possible ambiguity. Also called magnetic declination.” [1]
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TH44
Now. take a look at this illustration so that you will see and evaluate yourself. Check the magnetic declination between magnetic north and true north. It's very exact and precise. Hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
First illustration map is the original position of the Google earth
2nd illustration is the magnetic declination between true north and magnetic north
3rd illustration is the twisted map to get the exact position of the magnetic north
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NS,
Nice Copy and Paste and I agree with what was said or written but look at the Google Earth Map that you did in revision to the North as indicated by the Google Earth Map, when you turned the Map CCW, the NORTH moved NW in the Google Map and then you placed your NORTH about another 30 degrees NE of the original, NO comprende ? That was about 60 degrees declination, gets mo? If you can better point the North than Google Earth or Google Maps, which I doubt, then open up a website of your own. WHY NOT ASK YOUR GRANDSON where NORTH is in that Google Earth Map, maybe he can Point it out to you. TW commented on that action of but he did not elaborate, hmmp, me thinks it is better to talk to a Rock, when one gets frustrated, they can always kick that Dumb Rock. Arrgh.
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NS,
Nice Copy and Paste and I agree with what was said or written but look at the Google Earth Map that you did in revision to the North as indicated by the Google Earth Map, when you turned the Map CCW, the NORTH moved NW in the Google Map and then you placed your NORTH about another 30 degrees NE of the original, NO comprende ? That was about 60 degrees declination, gets mo? If you can better point the North than Google Earth or Google Maps, which I doubt, then open up a website of your own. WHY NOT ASK YOUR GRANDSON where NORTH is in that Google Earth Map, maybe he can Point it out to you. TW commented on that action of but he did not elaborate, hmmp, me thinks it is better to talk to a Rock, when one gets frustrated, they can always kick that Dumb Rock. Arrgh.
Maybe the BFR NORTHSTAR CAN RELATE TO THIS, JUST MAYBE.
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NS,
Nice Copy and Paste and I agree with what was said or written but look at the Google Earth Map that you did in revision to the North as indicated by the Google Earth Map, when you turned the Map CCW, the NORTH moved NW in the Google Map and then you placed your NORTH about another 30 degrees NE of the original, NO comprende ? That was about 60 degrees declination, gets mo? If you can better point the North than Google Earth or Google Maps, which I doubt, then open up a website of your own. WHY NOT ASK YOUR GRANDSON where NORTH is in that Google Earth Map, maybe he can Point it out to you. TW commented on that action of but he did not elaborate, hmmp, me thinks it is better to talk to a Rock, when one gets frustrated, they can always kick that Dumb Rock. Arrgh.
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tH44
It's no doubt that your level of intelligence is still in grade school. Simple I.Q test cannot passed. Where on earth did you get a 60 degrees declination. It's only 30 degrees. Hehehe....I suggest to go back to grade school and sit in my grandson's subject to increase your level of intelligence. Look at the illustration again, again and again. If were your professor, I will not hesitate to make a recommendation to drop you out of my class and let you talk to the smallest rock and ants... Then choose a bigger rock and bang in your head. Puk puk mo sa ulo para matauhan ka. good luck and nice talking.. Hehehe
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HMMMM, Which is NORTH again, I mean in the GOOGLE MAP, Not the NS North that your UFO Friends are telling you. I seem to recall that at One time you said to Always Read the Map with the North Facing away from you, you did'nt say it that way but I think that was what you meant,YOU DID NOT SAY TWIST or was that from a TWISTED MIND? NS, are you Trying to Twist our Mind?
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PLUS 6, Looks more like PLUS 30, confusing when one looks at it straight and the the picture is TWISTED CCW. North must be shifting a LOT and TOOO MUUUCCCH, messing up my Center of Gravity. ::)
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NS,
Nice Copy and Paste and I agree with what was said or written but look at the Google Earth Map that you did in revision to the North as indicated by the Google Earth Map, when you turned the Map CCW, the NORTH moved NW in the Google Map and then you placed your NORTH about another 30 degrees NE of the original, NO comprende ? That was about 60 degrees declination, gets mo? If you can better point the North than Google Earth or Google Maps, which I doubt, then open up a website of your own. WHY NOT ASK YOUR GRANDSON where NORTH is in that Google Earth Map, maybe he can Point it out to you. TW commented on that action of but he did not elaborate, hmmp, me thinks it is better to talk to a Rock, when one gets frustrated, they can always kick that Dumb Rock. Arrgh.
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tH44
It's no doubt that your level of intelligence is still in grade school. Simple I.Q test cannot passed. Where on earth did you get a 60 degrees declination. It's only 30 degrees. Hehehe....I suggest to go back to grade school and sit in my grandson's subject to increase your level of intelligence. Look at the illustration again, again and again. If were your professor, I will not hesitate to make a recommendation to drop you out of my class and let you talk to the smallest rock and ants... Then choose a bigger rock and bang in your head. Puk puk mo sa ulo para matauhan ka. good luck and nice talking.. Hehehe
Simple I.Q test cannot passed. Crooked English ba yon, you should say, Simple IQ test you cannot pass, not PASSED !
If were your professor, you mean, IF I WAS YOUR PROFESSOR, hmmmp, PHD Professor daw, ::) ??? >:(
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Bro NS,
Thanks in your time to use your method in my proj.
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TH44
Still cannot understand? Maybe you can relate on this two comparison according to your own illustration and the compass declination of magnetic and true north. Remember that the red line of the needle is the magnet north. I twisted the map to give more emphasis in the proper position of the magnetic north
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To all members of Tseatc
Be careful on your grammar because we have a wrong grammar hunter here. I may suggest to change his user name as WGhunter44 to fit his personality and level of intelligence. Simply means " Wrong grammar hunter with 44 I.Q. level" Hehehe :o ::) ;D ???
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Here is the Declination of Mindanao, Asia, Philippines according to NOAA- Nationjal Geophysical Data Center as of 09/27/2011.
Now, NS, where in the World did you get your 30 degrees. I bet from your UFO Friends.
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Estimated Value of Magnetic Declination
To compute the magnetic declination, you must enter the location and date of interest.
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Bro NS,
This is the angle you said,but I think this angle is azimuth I take it from google.For final survey I will let you know later on.As soon as I get my yearly vacation.So,you are in davao,what particular place in davao?our proj is somewhere in makilala,actually that is near kidapawan city.my birth place is in Buhangin,I have my relatives there in MA-A davao city.hope we can meet this coming april nx year
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To all members of Tseatc
Be careful on your grammar because we have a wrong grammar hunter here. I may suggest to change his user name as WGhunter44 to fit his personality and level of intelligence. Simply means " Wrong grammar hunter with 44 I.Q. level" Hehehe :o ::) ;D ???
Hilfe bitte aufhören diese Kakerlake !!!
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To all members of Tseatc
Be careful on your grammar because we have a wrong grammar hunter here. I may suggest to change his user name as WGhunter44 to fit his personality and level of intelligence. Simply means " Wrong grammar hunter with 44 I.Q. level" Hehehe :o ::) ;D ???
Hilfe bitte aufhören diese Kakerlake !!!
Vergewe my. Help asseblief stop hierdie kakkerlak.
Z
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To all members of Tseatc
Be careful on your grammar because we have a wrong grammar hunter here. I may suggest to change his user name as WGhunter44 to fit his personality and level of intelligence. Simply means " Wrong grammar hunter with 44 I.Q. level" Hehehe :o ::) ;D ???
Hilfe bitte aufhören diese Kakerlake !!!
Translation:
Help please stop this cockroach!
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Zobex is 100% correct, no need to argue each one's ideas here,this forum are open in YT ideas,we are here to gather info about YT,no need to argue.
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Bro NS,
Can you identify the counter bearing of the area?
Thanks and more power....
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TH44
Now. take a look at this illustration so that you will see and evaluate yourself. Check the magnetic declination between magnetic north and true north. It's very exact and precise. Hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
First illustration map is the original position of the Google earth
2nd illustration is the magnetic declination between true north and magnetic north
3rd illustration is the twisted map to get the exact position of the magnetic north
I don't really get it because this time you have rotated your drawing towards NORTHEAST whereby on your original you had rotated it towards NORTHWEST. Please explain why there's two completely opposite rotations going on there?
TW
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Thanks for the info TH44
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Bovic, here is the Declination of your site again, I had to re-post it. If you ask me, who really cares about declination when it is so minimal, unless one is talking about great distances but whatever, if one can locate the exact location of the cache by it, more power to him.
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Bro NS,
Can you identify the counter bearing of the area?
Thanks and more power....
Bovic
Maybe this is the counter bearing you are asking for. Try to find marker on the yellow dot I presented to complete the isometric pattern in your treasure site. Look at the two presentation below
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That is not counter bearing, that is geometrical symmetry (Math 301 - Plain and spherical geometry). Try again...
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Better know what is meant by counter bearing (backward bearing) before assuming to much. That assumption leads to ES.
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That is not counter bearing, that is geometrical symmetry (Math 301 - Plain and spherical geometry). Try again...
Then twist the map into south direction
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You again assumed that ES is South-East? :D :D :D Wrong. That ES is an engineering lingo which means "ENGINEERING STUPIDITY".
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You again assumed that ES is South-East? :D :D :D Wrong. That ES is an engineering lingo which means "ENGINEERING STUPIDITY".
Hehehe. I did'nt reply on your ES topic but on the backward bearing. See, if who is stupid now. Jejeje ??? ??? ???. It's like putting a trap for yourself. That's the most stupid among all the stupids. Hahahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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He-he-he, the most stupid thing I ever read is making the "Backward Bearing" interpreted as PROJECTION. :D :D :D. Even your so called Isometric method is definitely stupid since Isometry is 3 sided solid projection while you were projecting in a plain format. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Who do you think has more credibility here Professor?
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He-he-he, the most stupid thing I ever read is making the "Backward Bearing" interpreted as PROJECTION. :D :D :D. Even your so called Isometric method is definitely stupid since Isometry is 3 sided solid projection while you were projecting in a plain format. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Who do you think has more credibility here Professor?
Ha???????????????? Isometry means 3 sided solid projection???? Where in the world did you get that definition..
Better go back to your school and ask your professor. Maybe you are sleeping while your saliva is drooping in your cheek during the lecture. Hahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
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Bro NS,
I dont mean anything,I gather info here so I consider also your ideas.And many thanks for your effort in the subject
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He-he-he, the most stupid thing I ever read is making the "Backward Bearing" interpreted as PROJECTION. :D :D :D. Even your so called Isometric method is definitely stupid since Isometry is 3 sided solid projection while you were projecting in a plain format. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Who do you think has more credibility here Professor?
Between DB and NS, why not post your Credentials here, ie; Diploma and that would settle it once and for all. I took up BSME Engineering Drawing 101 way way back and as far as I can remember with my 3rd grade mentality, Isometric Drawing projection always start with a 3 dimensional object like DB said and I agree and anybody here can search for the truth in the internet but NS can do Isometrics on a single dimension, let us wait for him to show his credentials and DB I am sure is willing to show his. Is that fair or is that unfair?
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Anytime, my credentials are here anytime.
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Northstar's credentials,,, master cirkero, master comedian he made me LOL! everytime he made his postings :D :D :D :D and a master pretender at his best :D :D :D
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Northstar,
To prove your Isometric views, why not feature here your pet project, dig it as you wished your lines and projections pointed, and let us see if all you pointed will give you jackpot, okay????
You are like a last two digit winning number computer, who computes possible winning combinations, (all the combinations) and sell the supposed winning number and or numbers (from 00 to 99) to every guest and passersby everyday in a busy street without even betting himself, he just wait when someone, among from the 100 combinations of last two numbers, he just wait when one combination wins and would then ask some Balato to the winner ;D ;D ;D
Predator of someone's gullibility. Tsk,tsk,tsk.....
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Kizuna
Thanks for your comments. May God bless you at all times. Sorry If I offended you. I love you
Northstar
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Kizuna
Thanks for your comments. May God bless you at all times. Sorry If I offended you. I love you
Northstar
OMG !!! :o :-[ ;D :-X
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Kizuna
Thanks for your comments. May God bless you at all times. Sorry If I offended you. I love you
Northstar
OMG !!! :o :-[ ;D :-X
Love is on the forum hehe
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Kizuna
Thanks for your comments. May God bless you at all times. Sorry If I offended you. I love you
Northstar
OMG !!! :o :-[ ;D :-X
Love is on the forum hehe
Yah, Christmas is near, give love not war this time. ;D :D ;)
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nice thread ;D ;D ;D
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Hope Kizuna could read the message of Bro NS
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That is not counter bearing, that is geometrical symmetry (Math 301 - Plain and spherical geometry). Try again...
Then twist the map into south direction
Bro NS,
Attached are typical layout plan of japanese fortification,please apply this here in my site,maybe this is the one I am looking for.
Best regards,
Bovic32
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That is not counter bearing, that is geometrical symmetry (Math 301 - Plain and spherical geometry). Try again...
Then twist the map into south direction
Bro NS,
Attached are typical layout plan of japanese fortification,please apply this here in my site,maybe this is the one I am looking for.
Best regards,
Bovic32
Please apply your method here bro.
A many thanks...
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FRIEND BOVIC,
I respected your freedom to listen to NS but,,,don't be too caught away with gold fever, gold fever as we knew took away some of our most logical senses...
If one is logical enough,. there's no reason one should rely to someone else's unproven, always failing aggrandizement...
Bovic, believe in your most logical thoughts, and believe me, it is much more better than NS...