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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => Treasure Marks, Signs and Symbols of the Yamashita Treasure => Topic started by: ZOBEX on June 29, 2018, 07:17:46 PM

Title: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on June 29, 2018, 07:17:46 PM
OK Boys and Girls out there in TH Land, lets hear it from our dowsers, psychics and just plain crazies.  Here is a pic of a place someone started to dig about 10 years ago.  The old guy died of a stroke not soon after his diggers started.  Is it a HIT or is it a MISS ??  Is there something where the read arrow point to ?  I put the red arrows on it.

Lets see what you come up with.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: kaloy on June 29, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
miss. just my instinct 8)
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on June 30, 2018, 05:29:05 AM
 Is that a man made hill? They were trying to dig a load which was buried extremely difficult to recover. But if they are aware of the trickery of the Japanese there is a small cache around not far away.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on June 30, 2018, 05:18:50 PM
Is that a man made hill? They were trying to dig a load which was buried extremely difficult to recover. But if they are aware of the trickery of the Japanese there is a small cache around not far away.

This is a terraced hillside for trees now.  The site is a former IJA hospital just above this spot by maybe 20 meters.  Naturally skulls have been recovered from the site but not this exact spot.

Z



Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: kaloy on June 30, 2018, 06:39:09 PM
if this hill has a coconut tree in it and there's a creek down the slope, and this hill is almost at in a lot boundary, that site is similar to my site. possibly, the load is near the creek.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on June 30, 2018, 10:26:08 PM
Sir Zobex, Kaloy has the same answer as mine. Please examine the west or east part of that hill. Whatever the lowest part of terrain you must concentrate on that area. The Japanese has plenty of tricks that we should study first.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 01, 2018, 03:24:58 PM
Sir Zobex, Kaloy has the same answer as mine. Please examine the west or east part of that hill. Whatever the lowest part of terrain you must concentrate on that area. The Japanese has plenty of tricks that we should study first.

OK Gentlemen, we will give it 2 more days and then I will respond.  This is a good brain tester.  Thank you for the comments.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 01, 2018, 09:11:49 PM
Sir Zobex, Kaloy has the same answer as mine. Please examine the west or east part of that hill. Whatever the lowest part of terrain you must concentrate on that area. The Japanese has plenty of tricks that we should study first.

OK Gentlemen, we will give it 2 more days and then I will respond.  This is a good brain tester.  Thank you for the comments.

Z

OK, so here is more of the story.  I will explain after our Gentlemen Dowsers make their interpretation.  Some pics of the same site.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 21, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
OK so I guess you guys are stumped.  This is a hillside, there is a water well and a pocket that has water at the base of the slope but it is not a stream or creek.  The mango tree laying on it's side, down the slope, is a marker to what we are told is a bunker door that has been covered up.  This was an IJA hospital site.  So basically from the first pictures, if you look down grade and to the left of the picture are the water well and a hole that was dug for ducks and what not.  Farther around the base of the slope is the alleged bunker entrance.

Z

I will post another brain twister later on.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: zeeker on August 03, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
were you able to penetrate the bunker?

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on August 03, 2018, 10:50:07 PM
were you able to penetrate the bunker?

It's ready to be opened, however, since there is a truck and staff car inside, we are waiting for a clearance document from the museum so no one will get into trouble.  It's almost in town.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on August 07, 2018, 06:20:30 PM
Here is another intuitive test or dowser test.  Tell me what you think.  Is there something in ( still in ) this cave tunnel ? ?

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on August 07, 2018, 06:24:14 PM
I should comment that a type 26 revolver and helmet were recovered just inside the mouth of the cave, buried about 1 foot down.  Also a spirit has been seen hanging about the group of trees where the cave entrance is at.  We have seen the spirit and one of the workers for the land owner grabbed and sold the gun and helmet for a quick 3,000 pesos, without permission naturally.

Z

Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: admin on August 07, 2018, 09:25:52 PM
Those photos are from the tunnel under that mound?
TW
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 08, 2018, 05:07:12 AM
Potential recovery three spots. Much easier if that tunnel is facing east. Clever dowser should be employed or you may just waste lot of time for trial and error.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 08, 2018, 05:16:10 AM
Combination of 3 different ways should be applied for safety and assurance 1. Compass code application, trigrams. 2. Dowsing and mapping the whole area for confirmation. 3. Electronic detector to locate any possible dangers of explosive inside or outsde the tunnels. Or may find rick embedded or coin jars or anything like relics burried around.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on August 08, 2018, 10:48:48 AM
Potential recovery three spots. Much easier if that tunnel is facing east. Clever dowser should be employed or you may just waste lot of time for trial and error.

The green pic is facing a small hill covered in large trees.  The rice field in the foreground has a small stream running through it from the left to the right of the photograph.  The trees are on a small hill that is long like a finger running from left to right in the picture.  Behind the hill is a river running from left to right in the picture.  The tunnel is in the side of the hill, the entrance is facing the camera in the green picture.  Mouth of the cave is facing North.  In front of the cave entrance is a Triangle made with THREE very large and very old Acacia Trees.  When the formed triangle is scanned with a metal detector or several different kinds of detectors, when swung North to South or VS there is NO SIGNAL.  When the swing is East to West or VS there is a signal.  What is important in that result is, Radionics when using radionic energy of anything, the field strength is facing WEST with the back to the EAST.  So the detectors are picking up Scalar Wave energy or Radionic Energy from some object either buried in the ground or from the formation of the trees. VERY INTERESTING.


Z


Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: renantiur on August 08, 2018, 02:25:05 PM


based on general design, the entrance is not the best place to enter and make recoveries. most are riddled with traps .

most of the japanese areas have exit tunnel, the ones where it is generally safe to enter for japanese recoverers.  still riddled with trap, but can be bypassed if they follow the safety precautionary measures.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 08, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Small deposit is outside the tunnel. The large deep loads are inside but can be accessed by digging outside the tunnel too and can be located by meticulous mapping.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 08, 2018, 09:00:54 PM
Based on your explaination sir zobex. I have now idea the where the load was buried but not exact and shoud be confirmed.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: renantiur on August 09, 2018, 01:05:04 AM


how can you picture dowse a picture? what methodology shall you use? a picture is a small object. while the rod (two rods) is so big. how can you exactly dowse it if the picture is so small?

can you give me a horizontal view of your area? illustration of horizontal view.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: Yojuyo on August 09, 2018, 05:59:08 AM
Previously dug soil disturbance can be seen with modern detectors with 3d imaging. I prefer these method tham dowsing.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 09, 2018, 08:50:32 AM
I am not a psychic dowser, and am not dowsing yet. I am doing it in actual site by sensing ionization. Try watching Titan ger device's ionisation tracer.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 09, 2018, 08:56:29 AM
Although my home made device is far more simpler than those made by Titan Ger but the principle of both are the same which is following the ion release of bulk of gold buried down under. I am not a psychic dowser, dont want to do that.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: fom1113 on August 09, 2018, 09:23:45 AM
Based on the details of the area i already knew where the approximate location of the loads. It s about trigrams reference point in connection to load location and not dowsing.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: Yojuyo on February 01, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
The Israeli and Americans have a Satelite camera that can penetrate til 14 meters. That was 10 years ago. Rights of the land owner and a real legal permit is a must.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: admin on February 02, 2019, 06:33:14 PM
Oh? Where did you hear about that? That would definitely be very useful for us treasure hunters!
TW

The Israeli and Americans have a Satelite camera that can penetrate til 14 meters. That was 10 years ago. Rights of the land owner and a real legal permit is a must.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: ZOBEX on February 03, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
The Israeli and Americans have a Satelite camera that can penetrate til 14 meters. That was 10 years ago. Rights of the land owner and a real legal permit is a must.

Well 15 years ago it was 175 hard rock and 250 soft rock to find a high density object the size of a coconut.  It must be a lot better now. 

Z
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: Yojuyo on February 07, 2019, 07:41:48 AM
Oh? Where did you hear about that? That would definitely be very useful for us treasure hunters!
TW

The Israeli and Americans have a Satelite camera that can penetrate til 14 meters. That was 10 years ago. Rights of the land owner and a real legal permit is a must.

I saw it on CNN, they showed the tunnels used by HAMAS taken from thier Satelite.
Title: Re: Good - Bad - Or Ugly ?
Post by: Yojuyo on February 07, 2019, 10:27:23 AM
https://youtu.be/kNgQ2r6nzsU