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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => NORTHSTAR'S ISOMETRIC MAP THEORY => Topic started by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 08:59:20 PM

Title: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
This is a location map of two targets. But there are no details refarding the site. Maybe isometrics can shed light on the specifics of this location map
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:01:04 PM
Google shot of the first x, the one on the left, already recovered by the japanese
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:02:08 PM
Zoom of the google shot
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Im interested on the other x which is still untouched
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:13:38 PM
Following the ideas of NS, there are three hill peaks that runs at 200deg.. I assumed but not sure, am just posting it for referral, if these peaks are the three things in line which NS is always making a reference point in his isometrics
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
....it should be three hill peaks that run at 200deg......
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Post by: kaloy on October 29, 2015, 09:20:38 PM
The slope of a  hill also points at where these peaks are. "Saka" of this hill was mentioned in a map.(other reference).
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Post by: kaloy on November 02, 2015, 06:33:17 AM
Applying isometric and triangulation i found this "haloween rock"
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on November 05, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Hello Kaloy.
You have a posted a map,,.The most important thing about that map,Try to study if their is a scale as well as
Direction on the upper portion of the scale..That would be your guide,..That 640 which appears on your map,probably
that is a distance,.If your map is Authentic then stick to your map,.because all informations was given on the map..
Distances,Directions and Instruction,..If your on the area where treasure is located try to look for the rock formations
which is a permanent marker..That 200 deg. or 20 deg..Its just an alignment..Not all the time it is applicable on the area
because some of the alignments uses North and South directions..As well as Compass secret degrees..

Thanks..Happy Hunting Kaloy
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Post by: kaloy on November 07, 2015, 04:55:36 AM
Assuming the three hill summit are reference points( let me correct the 200 deg i mentioned earlier) and if i stand at the the summit of the second hill and look directly at the summit of the first hill, that is 16deg hitting a rock marker in a rice field below the first hill. If i stand on the summit of the third hill and look directly on the summit of the second hill, that will be 24deg hitting a duhat tree down the slope beside a small waterfall( approx.30meters below from where the duhat tree is). . On the other side of the ricefield there is another rock marker which hits the duhat tree i mentioned above at 151 deg., the waterfall at 150 deg., and the first rock ( the one at 16deg fr the first hill) at 146deg. . I hope i can post a sketch yo help you visualize the area.
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Post by: kaloy on November 07, 2015, 05:20:12 AM
Here's a simple sketch of the site.
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Post by: kaloy on November 07, 2015, 05:28:59 AM
Correction: 16 instead of 17deg.. The characters on the bottom is " third hill summit"(partly covered).
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Post by: kaloy on November 16, 2015, 04:24:07 AM
The water fall lies on the exact east(90deg) of dead duhat tree.
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Post by: fom1113 on November 23, 2015, 08:58:04 PM
   Riskier to dig big volume mother load is located at one of the three hills. A gadget man can locate that but start at the easier target which is the cache indicated in your map.

There is a possible small cache near the falls although not indicated in the map you posted.

The spots with x in your map are probably personal belongings of Japanese soldiers (imho).
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Post by: kaloy on November 24, 2015, 05:19:16 AM
Thanks for the info....what i did is i dug the mirror site of the water falls (on the other side of the dead duhat tree). Just a wild guess. At more than 10 ft deep, we encountered hard layer of reddish black compacted but brittle layer. After a few feet of this reddish black layer, there appeared a layer of gray cement (natural) (seen in the pic at the back of the man). Is it a marker?
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Post by: fom1113 on November 25, 2015, 09:11:42 PM
You must clear the surrounding soil and examine the shape of the rock. I suspect that site is a spotted radius. Multiple deposits are around the area.

FYI: small deposit is near the falls, in some area in Luzon the small cache is right at the spot where the water is falling.
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Post by: kaloy on November 26, 2015, 02:10:54 AM
Btw, it is not a rock. It is an ordinary compact layer. We just dont break t right away s we could examine it. It surprise me why all of a sudden that gray layer appeared there. As if it covers something on the side.......the water falls s a nice spot. It completes the lacking point of an isoceles 60 deg.triangle formed by the dead duhat tree and rock A (see the sketch). Is it possible that the main load s at the center of this isoceles triangle?..
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Post by: kaloy on November 26, 2015, 02:25:29 AM
The water falls is actually my first target in the area. We dug 4 ft but cannot control the water as it was covered with sand and so we stop digging for the mean time. We found charcoal there but not sure if these charcoals were just brought by water during rainy seasons as there were kaingin upstream.
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Post by: kaloy on December 01, 2015, 01:58:15 AM
At 3 ft...any significance? Ty
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on December 04, 2015, 10:46:22 PM
Dear Kaloy;

That rock that you have dig at 3 ft..Just measure the width and the length of that rock..The measurement of what they called a cap
Length= 44 inches and Width= 32 inches..If that rock was exact on this measurement meaning you are in the right spot..Regarding
your sketch...From that Dead Duhat tree to the Duhat Tree,..Measure the total distance and the exact degrees,..If it is in 90 degrees
in which the Dead Duhat Tree is your Base,..Take this Distance 56,102 or 139  Meters..And just a reminder that Rock A and Rock B will
be your Lock...From that Rock take a bearing 180 degrees South..If you Explore dig on this measurement...180 c.m square,..or if you
like to dig in a circle pattern that would be your diameter,..180 c.m..And Also i just want to ask if that small falls has a big rock on the
surface Marker?...Happy hunting

Thanks ;D
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Post by: kaloy on December 05, 2015, 05:47:29 AM
Pic of the water falls after diverting the water..
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Post by: kaloy on December 05, 2015, 06:04:33 AM
Here are the degree measurements:
From the dead duhat tree
           To rock b: 80
           To water falls: 90
           To another duhat: 103
           To 3rd hill summit: 178 (180 is about at the edge of the summit)
From rock A
            To  1st hill summit: 178 (180 is about at the edge of the summit)

Dont know the distance yet....
The line of dead duhat going to 3rd hill IS PARALLEL to the line of rock A going to 1st hill!.. I assume there is a significance of this parallelogram.
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Post by: kaloy on December 05, 2015, 06:08:32 AM
Could you pls explain further the 56,102,139 meter-distance.thanks
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on December 09, 2015, 10:04:13 PM
Thanks Kaloy for that Information..

That Measurement i mentioned is specificallly use for the 90 degree Angle..
So if your base is the Dead Duhat Tree,use that measurement 102 or 139 meters
going to the Falls..
Don't you ever notice that the Dead Duhat Tree,1sr Hill and the 3rd. Hill is align
North and South direction..So I could say that the Dead Duhat Tree is your Base or
Control on locating the target...Just a hint try to measure everything from and get
their corresponding distances:
1.Measurement from Dead Duhat Tree to Rock A,
2.Measurement from Dead Duhat Tree to Rock B,
3.Measurement from Dead Duhat Tree to the Falls.
4.Measurement from Dead Duhat Tree to Another Duhat.
5.Measurement and Degree from Another Duhat to the Falls..

Just an advice Degree and Distances are very important Kaloy..

Thanks..Happy Hunting... ;)
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Post by: Knaj on December 09, 2015, 10:56:04 PM
an genuine japanese map always has a japanese flag in there always.. its not a marker to the location but its a marker of how to read a map properly. if the wind blows the flag from the left then this makes it as is, but when the wind blows the flag from the right then it is mirrored. in this buried treasure couldn't be found and you'll stock in the wild.
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Post by: kaloy on December 10, 2015, 04:30:39 AM
It depends.  Mine has a japanese writing on the uppermost left corner that reads "copy #9". Signifying a copy made by/for lower ranking official. It's authentic but not an official/general map, if really there is such thing as "official" "general" map. Golden Lily maps never circulated and only few had the chance of seeing them. Mine are maps from Mixed IB of IJA....
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Post by: Knaj on December 10, 2015, 06:14:34 AM
i just remembered of what i heard to my father back then when i was 12. their talking bout yamashita's treasure and one of his buddy's friend has a map, then my father ask if there's a flag in it and his buddy answered "i don't know." i heard that those flag always present at the map cause that's will gives you a hint of how to get the exact location. last two months i've seen it one my wife's relatives kind of brownies color, looks like a shiny leather i don't know what's made of i didn't touch it either. i've seen a jap flag flying left, i just laugh and said it's fake and then i left. but yeah who knows.
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Post by: kaloy on December 10, 2015, 08:21:37 PM
I have a map that had its sun drawn at the back. Maybe a hint on how to read it. All these years, i came to the conclusion that reading a japanese treasure map is not easy as it seemed, as if im just beginning to have a glimpse of what really the thought of the one who drawn it. We are misled by those who twisted and covered the truth from the eyes of public. Well, treasures and artifacts of Asia and Europe are buried here so they really wanted it to be hidden and remained a legend in the eyes of the gullible public. Remaining as an investigator who rely on evidences is still the most logical stand of a TH...a top secret  is a top secret. Means that only few knew the real score. Just my opinion.
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Post by: Knaj on December 10, 2015, 09:55:38 PM
just a hint, try to read it using a mirror enough to fit the map and check the site if your reading are in the right place. treasure map indeed completed, even if it is written in English alphabet until you know the right position of the map. just try a mirror or raised the map up with the sun of the map in front of  you, used the sunlight to reveal the text on the back of the map. nothing to lose if you try it, if your in the right reading you can pinpoint the exact location of the hidden treasure. hope this help, gud luck fella TH's. happy hunting. :)
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Post by: kaloy on December 11, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
Mirror image is good.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 01:37:11 AM
so how it goes? have you try it?
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Post by: kaloy on December 11, 2015, 02:48:42 AM
The hill that i posted is actually the half sun with 4 rays drawn with an eye at the right lower corner. Of the map. This has puzzles me for couple of years. . The north is drawn pointing at 5 o clock and the half sun at the right lower corner so it is quite confusing. I just realized just a week ago after talking to a japanese guy who concluded that my map is authentic but just like me got confused with the half sun at right lower corner of the map. Google earth is a great tool. By pointing the north at 5 oclock, the hill (the one that i posted) immerge to look like a half sun.. Isometric and triangulation( 30-60-90; 45-45-90) are aldo quite helpful in pinpointing the targets.. I was convinced that there are really secret and specific angles used as these angles point to the markers ive found in the site.. Your mirror image of the hill helped to support the idea that the hill is the half sun in my map and helped me find other details that other teams of THers didnt find in the site. Also it has a paranormal value. My friend asked if you are a psychic. Lol ;D
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Post by: kaloy on December 11, 2015, 03:28:14 AM
There are other details that seem to be not in place but i am hoping that using the hill as the permanent and main marker/landmark i will soon find the other details in place.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 03:42:18 AM
ha ha ha no i'm not, but i believe in ghost, i'm roman catholic by the way. okay lets go back to the topic.. here's in my if it is truly a half of the sun, then try to play with the shadows when sun rising up half way or the setting sun. its show only half of it with 4 rays then that sun rising up, take note of the shadows coming from tall trees, or maybe that's the light coming from in between trees try that technique during sun rise and sunset just wait till it reaches half of it. remember use shadows from and a light coming between trees you only need 4 shadows or 4 light rays. when you are in the right place this 4 sun rays will isolate the mystery your about to discover. hope this technique will your solve the puzzle.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 03:48:02 AM
i think you have to be in the eye before sunrise and sunset, make sure before it goes to half of the sun, you to be in the eyeball.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 04:03:06 AM
if that technique wasn't good enough then try to play shadows and sun rays 2 in the morning and 2 before sunset. just mix it
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 04:14:27 AM
i think this is the 4 rays in your map sun.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 04:27:30 AM
or maybe this one 2 rays  or shadows in the morning from east, west or north, south and 2 rays or shadows before sun set.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 04:46:14 AM
your sun has only 4 rays then there's something 3 objects blocking sun rays  find that three objects. HINT: there are only two rays reaching to the ground, those 1 and 3 object will block the entire ends and focusing the sun rays at the center, that object in center will divide the rays to make it two rays. now you have the 2 rays captured all you have to do is to capture the second two rays of the sun, in this case use a mirror cause your puzzle has been mirrored out. what i mean mirror is used the same technique before sunset. to complete the 4 sun rays. this 4 rays will isolate the area and that area will be your eye to see every piece of your puzzle.
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Post by: Knaj on December 11, 2015, 04:54:00 AM
look at the center of the image above i posted is it an arrow or i'm just assuming it.
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Post by: kaloy on December 12, 2015, 06:28:50 AM
Afternoon shadow
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Post by: kaloy on December 12, 2015, 06:40:17 AM
Youre right. There are two rays  in the afternoon that seem to pass through the foothill of the eye( to the area of the "C")... Though it will not directly hit the eye beceause the summit blocks the rays as seen in the pic above.  There are two shadows near the center of the pic  whichmeans that there are also two rays .. Hope to catch a pic in the morning..
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Post by: Knaj on December 12, 2015, 06:49:55 AM
ohw that's not what i'm expected, but i think your closer to solve that puzzle. anyway if the sun rays don,t work try to capture if the shadows has a resemblance to the sun rays then put a marker onto it... these is just like a buddha thing, using shadows to point the tunnel entrance. it's a big mystery what's in there.
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Post by: kaloy on December 13, 2015, 04:58:15 AM
Any more ideas about this mystery? I'll be more than glad to see more. Thanks
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Post by: kaloy on December 13, 2015, 05:00:37 AM
Could you pls elaborate further about that buddha and shadows.
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Post by: Knaj on December 13, 2015, 06:46:18 AM
some buddha statue uses shadow from sunset other buddha 1 hour shadow from sunrise.
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 01:27:59 AM
Strange site. This is the mirror image of the pic i posted above. Seem to be a buddha at 12 o clock of the pic. The black figure.
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Post by: admin on December 14, 2015, 08:18:27 AM
Bro,

That's obviously a Photo shop Mirror Image photo there. Just like a few of the other mirror photos that have been posted lately. Look closely.. If the landscape mirror image is EXACTLY IDENTICAL to each other - it definitely is a photo shop piece of work there.

Tony

Strange site. This is the mirror image of the pic i posted above. Seem to be a buddha at 12 o clock of the pic. The black figure.
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 07:52:58 PM
At first i thought it was just a photoshop effect. Lets take a step by step look. I'll first post the orig.pic
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 07:53:48 PM
Then put the mirror at the center
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Slowly adjusting towards the right
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 07:56:26 PM
More merging
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Post by: kaloy on December 14, 2015, 08:06:16 PM
There must be sort of "enhancement" as it hides parts as it merge. Just like putting a thing over another and so the one beneath cannot be seen..Just that. Details are not added. Even colors.
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Post by: Knaj on December 14, 2015, 08:49:11 PM
i think sir your puzzle is not just about mirroring but also shadowing the 4 rays could indicate the East-West-North-South and the 3 shadows could be from E & W and one shadows from eye mountain. maybe one of the mountain got the eye. i don't know the exact time to capture that shadows but maybe this is a possible technique.
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Post by: Knaj on December 14, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
since that mountain is half then the shadow has a big part of this game. the sunlight, the light, and shadows. this shadows maybe could give you a hint what to do next.
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Post by: Knaj on December 14, 2015, 09:01:17 PM
sir would you mind if i ask you to upload that piece of your map here you posted at other topic? the original image not mirrored one. and and a google image of that mountain. full image of that mountain would be nice. thnks.
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Post by: Knaj on December 14, 2015, 11:34:00 PM
i mean the sun, the light and the shadow. sorry that.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 05:19:18 AM
The sun in the map.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 05:26:16 AM
The mango tree. It could mean another thing. This is the one i applied with mirror imaging and posted in a reply to yamideo. As you could see im trying to avoid reading it literally. (Just a wild approach).
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 05:28:45 AM
The google shot of the hill that looks like an eye.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 06:02:46 AM
BRB, i got something similar this not that good news but this will give you an idea.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 06:54:30 AM
Glad to see it.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 06:55:36 AM
now here's my idea your, mountain, and tree are all one. you notice that the sun has 4 spokes, will its obvious the 2 spokes are connected to the sun because they really exist, the other aren't connected because their existence are not present. same of the root of a tree. the 2 roots has been cut off since those root blocks the passage. that pile of log is a marker. that 202 is the distance from the marked stone to the treasure as you can see at the image this maybe a yards or meters the nail is your pointer where this stone will be located, and that's it all i got for now.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 06:58:05 AM
i hope that would give you a clue.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 07:09:15 AM
i mean mountain, sun and tree are all the same
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 07:18:13 AM
the tree isn't really a tree resembles snake head the trunk resembles the sun, the nail resembles the eye of the sun, the roots resembles the sun spokes and that is how the japanese made a tree. it's a puzzle indeed, at first look to the image you've posted i already notice the similarity of those tree images.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 07:24:19 AM
sorry for the typo, just understand it.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 07:34:26 AM
see the eye?
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 07:42:10 AM
rotate your map when using it. i told you before there's a proper way of how to use japanese map. but forgive me i was then, i think it's mirrored but it's not. just a simple rotation and that's it. next time hold it upside down.  peace  ;D
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
Very clever. There is another tree in the map.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 07:44:43 AM
Doubled. Error occured
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:00:06 AM
take a look at the roots of how they much up with the mountain lines, and the sun spokes.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 08:02:19 AM
Yeah that root points to the other tree i posted... The kanji there reads "hill" and "slope".
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:05:22 AM
now its very clear to me, from the marked stone there will be an old tree marked with the nail, from that tree follow the nail to where head pointing at. use yards or meters.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
i think we nailed it, but not for now you have to find the entrance first ;D
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
the stairs is the mountain where the deposit buried, every steps in it resembles the mountain.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:18:25 AM
so it means that there are two deposit in that area? two roots exist then there's two deposit buried there.
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Post by: Knaj on December 15, 2015, 08:28:12 AM
you see a man under the marked stone? at the piled stone, it's not a japanses character but a human crawling under to the deposit. that's the entrance i think.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 08:40:24 AM
it was specified in the map the local name of the hill where the second tree is/was located... It is a kilometer away from the "eye mountain"... But anyway that local hill is much elevated than where the eye is located so it is possible that they used it as a reference using the direction of its protruding slope to locate where the eye is... Sad thing is, if the eye is in that local hill. Literally, there is a measurement indicated in the map from the local hill to the eye, and it is only 80. Dont know if that should be taken literally.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 03:45:59 PM
you see a man under the marked stone? at the piled stone, it's not a japanses character but a human crawling under to the deposit. that's the entrance i think.



Literally, that is the kanji for buddha...but of course there are other styles of interpretation. Your sun in the base of the trunk is quite convincing.
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Post by: kaloy on December 15, 2015, 03:52:14 PM
the stairs is the mountain where the deposit buried, every steps in it resembles the mountain.


Is that a box or a stair? That makes a lot of sense to me if you say STAIR STEPS IN THE MOUNTAIN like terraces...
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Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 01:52:58 AM
it was specified in the map the local name of the hill where the second tree is/was located... It is a kilometer away from the "eye mountain"... But anyway that local hill is much elevated than where the eye is located so it is possible that they used it as a reference using the direction of its protruding slope to locate where the eye is... Sad thing is, if the eye is in that local hill. Literally, there is a measurement indicated in the map from the local hill to the eye, and it is only 80. Dont know if that should be taken literally.
i think that 80 is not a measurements instead an angle, 80 degree as you can see the slope of the root to the jar on top of the sandwich stone? the images there uses different timeline, look at those pile of rock and the round stone at the corner their shadows are not the same. i think the pile of rock their timeline are around 7-8 o'clock and the round stone uses 9-10 o'clock base on their shadows and the only thing don't have shadows at that time is the pot on top of a sandwich stone. as you notice there is a closed door underneath it, this place won't exposed to the sun at the given time. this is the entrance that has been block by the sandwich type rock and is maybe cemented or been blown up. remember every detail of the map has it's own role to play with, their not just an ornament to make the looks good. peace  ;D
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Post by: kaloy on December 16, 2015, 02:11:46 AM
In an earlier post, i stated that the angle from a dead duhat tree to a rock is 80 deg... This rock is near a mango tree but unluckily this tree is already dead long time ago. Could this be the mango tree near a rock? ( the one i posted lately)
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Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 02:31:18 AM
as of the reference image, the slope of the root of the tree at 80 degrees angle points only to the rock. this rock i think is an statue as you can see the pot over sandwich or maybe a sandwich pot type rock. maybe that dead tree was just a land mark to where the sandwich type rock is located.
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Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 02:39:10 AM
or maybe that tree is meant to mislead THs.
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Post by: kaloy on December 16, 2015, 03:05:51 AM
Pls bear with my trial and error approach here as i will mention anything that could be a possible suspect until we arrive at a definite target.... What about a rock in a slope that seem to hold the soil from not eroding down and creating a small mound in the slope of a mountain and if you stand there you can have a good overview of the entire site?
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Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 04:39:27 AM
i'm getting closer to it, the eye of the tree maybe it was looking to the stone underneath, stone shadow pointing at 7 o'clock where the code 1 and code 2 located. the stone is located at the slope in front of a mountain the stone shadow tells us that there something in there. the stone has a map or arrow on int which remind me "rock the boat" the rock has an eye on flat surface if i'm not mistaken resemblance to the tree and if' i'm correct the map of the stone found at the river seems to me the same as the mark found at the round stone on your map, which is the "Y" thing.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 04:43:26 AM
forgot to upload image  ;D
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Post by: kaloy on December 16, 2015, 07:45:10 PM
the stairs is the mountain where the deposit buried, every steps in it resembles the mountain.


Is that a box or a stair? That makes a lot of sense to me if you say STAIR STEPS IN THE MOUNTAIN like terraces...

Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 08:08:48 PM
i think your in the right spot to capture this image. sorry i broke the pot but don't worry i replace it with bonsai tree  ;D
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 16, 2015, 10:03:18 PM
take a look at your map the "POT" and the "BONSAI TREE" if you're facing at the arrow like earth mountain the pot and the tree facing at different direction. how? notice the dot on the pot? and the hole of bonsai tree? there's the difference between position and shape. imagine that you are facing only to bonsai tree with the arrow like earth mountain behind you, it means your in between the two. compare the tree and the pot, now their facing in the same direction. and door can be located right under the back of the tree. and the other one can bee located at 80 degrees from the tip of arrow head like dirt and the distance of a 202 could be a number of a feet, a yard? a vara? a meter? or a fathom perhaps?
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 04:22:03 AM
The tree must have a hole? And the jar is at the back of the tree (facing opposite to the hole)?
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 05:31:25 AM
Take a look at this mirror image. It might help ....
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 05:35:52 AM
Another pics at different merging points.
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Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 05:46:14 AM
the jar in your map represent the bonsai tree and the sandwich like rock represent the soil, just right below the soil is the close entrance. look for the layered soil, the second layer and the tree is your reference point in digging. as you notice the second layer is not connected at the edge so it means that digging a hole before the second layer ended as per your map describe.
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 07:28:16 AM
So there is no item blow yhe bonsai tree?
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 07:30:36 AM
Typo error.

So there is no item below the bonsai tree?
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
yes sir, no item below bonsai tree just the layered soil.
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Post by: kaloy on December 17, 2015, 09:36:30 PM
My team found a drift wood upside down(roots on top) at 5 ft.. Is this the log or the bonsai tree you are referring to?
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 11:29:21 PM
FINDING THE SECOND LOCATION:
1st lets start breaking the japanese technique they used in the map before any thing else.
1. shadow technique
2. map rotation technique (from 0-360 degrees)

THE SUN:
it has a major role in this quest. they have drawn half of the sun to inform you that you need only half of it (not the full rising sun).
i guess your wondering why? see the first technique, from 0 to half rising sun this will slowly build up ground details
and from half to full rising sun this will ruin every ground details and you'll end up nothing. take a look at your map and the mountain
with two eyes behind it some small detail has been gone when the sun shining at higher level.

SHADOWS:
this is the best part of finding every detail that your map describe, we can now apply the first and second technique.
now the question is why shadows? is it really important? yes it is important because the biggest treasure deposit has been hidden right under the shadows
and this shadows will tell us the possible location of our target, through the help of measurements and angle you can point the exact location
of buried treasure. as you notice in your map there's a round rock but in the actual site it doesn't exist and that's how the sun build ground
details and shadows come up to life. when you're in the right position and right time you'll be able to see the shadows building like a rock in your map.

correct me if i'm wrong with angles I've got a bloody nose when it comes to it  ;D arghh.
okay enough talking let's get it done.
at the right image has a 2 red circles below is the reference point of your second target idicated red circle at left image and above red circle is your target location indicated orange
color at left image. the question is how could it possibly  be? look closer to the right image at the top red circle the shadows emphasizes three shapes which is the arrow, the hole and the little dot. don't mind the arrow there's nothing buried there but the arrow shadow is your reference  point
of how to exactly postion the map. TAKE NOTE : this arrow shadow is your reference of the exact position of reading the map regarding to the second buried location. now the arrow has been eliminated as a location and your map uses 2 techniques so be aware of that, focus on those two shapes remaining. rotate the map at about 60 degrees forgive my inaccuracy as i was saying earlier I've got a bloody nose when it comes to it, i was not built for it  ;D let's get back to the subject, after you rotate it you'll now have a view just look like the left image shown in circle and oval orange color at left image. the oval represent the the shadows of the rock shadow falling under and the orange circles is the best location to hide something. i don't know yet if it is the exact location since the ground details are off. notice your map has 2 caves and has both entrances on walls
and not in the flat ground surfaces. now the angle and measurements comes in handy at this moment don't ask me about angle ??? if the given reference on the left side don't match the given angles and measurements as your map stated then use the bonsai tree instead as your reference point to the second location. the treasure could be hidden just right behind the wall if my interpretation of the
buried treasure depth are correct.

sorry for the long explaination. have a good day ;D
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 11:35:19 PM
My team found a drift wood upside down(roots on top) at 5 ft.. Is this the log or the bonsai tree you are referring to?
the bonsai tree i'm referring is still standing on top of the ground see picture below the one and only tree right in the front surface area
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 11:36:59 PM
forgot the image, sorry  ;D
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 11:45:18 PM
sorry for the typo and grammar, pls understand it  ;D
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 17, 2015, 11:52:12 PM
Typo error.

So there is no item below the bonsai tree?
if you mean the pot thing there isn't, the bonsai tree and the pot in your map are one. but if you say treasure
yeah, there is a treasure below bonsai tree and the second location can be found just right behind the small mountain in front of bonsai tree.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on December 18, 2015, 07:15:01 AM
Hope to get some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 18, 2015, 07:22:28 AM
more shadow than the first one much better.
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Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 08:26:04 AM
Been in the site for two days. I didnt catch a pic of mountain shadows because of the cloudy weather. but i catch an early morning pic... And also this cement.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
We broke the cement and found several filler stones inside.
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Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 08:43:15 AM
Some more
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Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 08:45:00 AM
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Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 09:00:27 AM
After breaking it, we tried to clear a few feet deep below where the cement was. We saw these:
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Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 09:04:20 AM
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Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on December 20, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
Basic shapes.
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Post by: Knaj on December 20, 2015, 09:31:45 PM
just as i thought the cement was a marker, but that's not it, inside a hidden maps in carve stone. before i thought that there's 2 hidden treasure buried in separate location but now i realize that there's only one tunnel exist. here's how i figure it out, almost all of the stone consist lots of small eyes others looks like natural, but if you examine it thoroughly there you will see a single eye that has been shaped in different way. the only thing comes up to my mind is the bonsai tree, this tree has also an eye and this the only and only thing has it. the bonsai hole formed by branches is the  eye of all the eyes you've been seen and you've been searching for a long time. the bonsai tree will point you at the right tunnel entrance, i'll explain it later. notice the second image below cement image you've posted, the first one represent the half snake head mountain the one that you've crop from google's earth.  second, the white stone representing the round stone including shadows that can be found at the corner on your map below the tree. if you examine it thoroughly it does the shape of the round rock including shadow. the third image is the mini map to the shape of the tunnel and it does telling you where could it be found. turn your hand 30 degrees counter clockwise with rock on your hand same as picture above till the long part of the black line lies horizontally. now the image of the mountain came to life, the mountain that can be found just right at the back of bonsai tree, see the difference? the back of it shows the triangle earth mountain just behind bonsai tree. the fourth image is the combination of mountains including the contour of snake head mountain and the triangle like earth. look at the right side markings, it seems a kanji thing but for me is the shape of tunnel with wonam like stick above stretching right hand and pointing to object. the rock in water has one eye wide open before the pointer and the pointers points to the direction and where the eye can be located. the giant clam rock represents the treasures deposit. the last image consist of coins deposit, the gold and the flight path to tunnel and the tunnel where the bigger deposit can be found.  i hope you see the dragon face drawn on one of the four rocks, i'm not imagining it   :( because that dragon face exist on your map also. did you see it ??? if you can see it post it  ;D


FINDING TUNNEL ENTRANCE:

now let's go back to the bonsai tree, here's how to find the tunnel. position yourself again back to the place where you capture the image with bonsai tree in front. now take your map and look closer to the mountain image drawn to the wall on your map beside the round rock, it has an eyes behind it. this mountain and eyes are your reference of finding tunnel entrance. find different location until you get the exact image as your map stated, don't go behind the tree since the bonsai hole is the pointer to the tunnel entrance location. just find different distances and locations with-in front of the tree. if you find your self at the right position exactly as how the eyes and mountain align just like your map, look to the hole of the bonsai tree what you see in there is the tunnel entrance this i'm 1000% percent sure, no kidding. i just think that the human stick drawn on your map is the human bone right arm stretch out pointing the direction to the first deposit and the head headed to the second small deposit just the map on the rock you pick up from the cement. this tunnel is combination of "I" and "Y" tunnel just like your map from left to right.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: kaloy on December 22, 2015, 04:20:58 AM
My bad. Didnt post this part. Just ignore the encircled 731 at the center and the arrow at the upper left corner. it is just a vandalism.
Kindly assess again with the ricefield in it.
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Post by: kaloy on December 22, 2015, 04:28:03 AM
This is the pic of the dead duhat tree.
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Post by: kaloy on December 22, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
Seems to fit your description of the bonsai tree
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on December 22, 2015, 06:04:41 AM
here's the place of the hidden treasure at the left side red circle is the bonsai tree and pot are one. the white circle is the pointer to where the tunnel entrance the green circle is the triangle earth like mountain the two yellow circle is your reference position as the same as the map stated. find the right position at the blue color within that area you'll be able to tackle those eyes and mountain alignment just the same as your map image. this should be the same as your map to the actual location, when you get the align of both yellow circle just exactly the same look to the hole of the bonsai tree encircled in white  what you see in that hole is the tunnel entrance Note: the yellow mark is your reference position and the bonsai hole is your reference target area.
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Post by: kaloy on December 22, 2015, 09:07:00 PM
That's more clearer... I will post the pic of the upper portion of the "C". The bonsai is almost at 12 o clock. It has holes. Actually the center portion of the trunk was burned and became void only the outer portion of the trunk enables the tree to stand. I couldnt imagine how it withstand the winds of Lando.
All the things that youve said on this tree turned to be true. The only thing that questions me is the elevation. Too elavated to start a tunnel. Or probably they have started at the back of the hill which has around 80deg depression going down to the creek and made the tunnel to run horizontally (less than 50 meters) through the area of the bonsai which is almost at the summit.
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Post by: kaloy on January 04, 2016, 04:11:53 AM
here's the place of the hidden treasure at the left side red circle is the bonsai tree and pot are one. the white circle is the pointer to where the tunnel entrance the green circle is the triangle earth like mountain the two yellow circle is your reference position as the same as the map stated. find the right position at the blue color within that area you'll be able to tackle those eyes and mountain alignment just the same as your map image. this should be the same as your map to the actual location, when you get the align of both yellow circle just exactly the same look to the hole of the bonsai tree encircled in white  what you see in that hole is the tunnel entrance Note: the yellow mark is your reference position and the bonsai hole is your reference target area.


This is a pic of the dead duhat tree at sunrise...notice the hole where the sun ray passes through. That cast shadow is at the foothill of your yellow circle.
Title: Re: Lets try isometric on this map
Post by: Knaj on February 07, 2016, 05:59:15 AM
This thing bug my mind, your map shows a half of a sun which represent the image you captured from google and the three rays could represent the three mountain and north at 4 o'clock then this means your facing Southwest  when the north is at 4 o'clock am i right? Correct me if i'm wrong... the entrance is hidden in one of those three mountains and could be hidden at the middle mountain. Look at the image below tell me if your facing northeast when you take that shot. if my direction  is true then you have to go to the back of that bonsai and position yourself facing the bonsai tree. Now in this position the north should be at your back or either at your right side take a little turn to left and position the north exactly at 4 o'clock, then take a little step til the bonsai tree looks like a pot in your map when the bonsai tree looks like a shape of a pot then this is the area where loads can be found. The piece of your map shows the three rays only the middle of those three had a mark then this means that the middle mountain is the holder of the hoard. If this bonsai tree was located either first or third mountain then this mountain has no treasure in it but the slope of the second mountain or middle mountain rigth next to bonsai tree that i was referring to. This type of tunnel is "Y"  shape, the two characters beside the stickman means "buddah, dead person or france" (maybe this could be a buddha for giveaway) where hands pointing to the first deposit and the head pointing to other treasure deposit. Check the yellow circle from the image i posted resently the little one inside the oval. If that area can be found at the middle mountain.
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Post by: Knaj on February 07, 2016, 06:04:23 AM
Forget to attached
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Post by: Knaj on February 07, 2016, 06:14:43 AM
Take a closer look at the upper left corner shadow. The more  lower the sun the more details can be captured.
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Post by: Knaj on February 07, 2016, 06:18:12 AM
Compare that image to the trunk of bonsai tree is there any resemblance? I may say yes there is eaxamine i thoroughly.
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Post by: Knaj on February 07, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Compare that image to the trunk of bonsai tree is there any resemblance? I may say yes there is eaxamine i thoroughly.
I mean examine it thoroughly "Typo error"
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Post by: kaloy on February 09, 2016, 03:51:34 AM
Am facing east or a bit on south east when i took the pic