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GOLD BARS & ANY RELATED INFO => GOLD Bar Selling SCAMS! => Topic started by: Janner on March 05, 2010, 04:11:57 AM
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A few years back , i had some guys ask me if i knew where to sell "Platinum bars", so i told him they would have to be tested first prior to any sale. So he agreed to bring one bar to be tested.
3 days later he arrived, with 2 more rough looking characters, inviting them into my front parking area, i asked if they had anything for me to test?
To which he brought out of his bag a bar which he bumped down on the hood of my newly sprayed Wrangler Jeep. Original not a fake copy. and put a dent in the hood. 40,000 pesos respray ruined!!
So, lesson 1, how to pi$$ me off in 5 seconds.!
The bar weighed in at 16 kilos, which made me suspect, as Platinum bars are between 1 and 6 kilos. Anyway, drilled holes in the top, side and end, then with the aid of some various chemicals, subjected the drilled pieces to a test.
And yep...it was "Lead" !
And told him so, he went nuts and called me all the names under the sun, the rough looking character got a little boisterous and came towards me in a threatening manner. Well what a to do?
In my house and front parking area there is various CCTV cameras for security reasons, so i pointed these out to the so called "treasure hunters" and also my partner came out of the house carrying our 12 gauge. The threats stopped and they started to leave. so i remarked, "I will send you the bill for the repair to my Jeep"...
They then jumped into their owner jeep, which had been scanned by my friend, also he followed them home to a place called "Appolonia" on his motorbike. Pictures taken and we were quite safe now with all the required safety precautions. But why the hell do we have to do all this? Because you "Cannot" trust anyone!!!!
Any way, all pictures were given to my friends in the CIDG and nothing more was heard.....
another case of scam anyone, anytime.
I would hate to think if one of them went for me, what would have happened?
My partner would have fired?
My friend would have jumped in, and fired to?
dam like a combat zone again........NO Thankyou!!
so, lesson learned, and i no longer entertain people like that.........
If you want to meet someone with a sale, meet in a bank in one of their private rooms, they all have them. Then you can deposit if its real, and the bank can pay him. and "One on One" only.
Be Safe !!
regards
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Janner,
Thanks for that story and we all appreciate it here! Hey if you still have any photos of those A**HOLES Please do post them here. Or send to me and I'll be more then happy to post their UGLY faces here so everyone can watch out for them.
TW
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Here in my place in PUERTO PRINCESA CITY, PROVINCE OF PALAWAN, lots of personalities selling FAKE GOLD BARS, GOLDEN BUDDHA and EVEN 1934 US DOLLARS (JP MORGAN) and US FRB/FRN. some of them were arrested by the PALAWAN CIDG and put into JAIL, but it only classified as ESTAFA which is BAILABLE OFFENSE thats why they posted their BAIL and released from prison.
Thanks,
troubleshooter
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and so they should, scam artists should be photographed and posted for all to see.........
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Here in my place in PUERTO PRINCESA CITY, PROVINCE OF PALAWAN, lots of personalities selling FAKE GOLD BARS, GOLDEN BUDDHA and EVEN 1934 US DOLLARS (JP MORGAN) and US FRB/FRN. some of them were arrested by the PALAWAN CIDG and put into JAIL, but it only classified as ESTAFA which is BAILABLE OFFENSE thats why they posted their BAIL and released from prison.
Thanks,
troubleshooter
Troubleshooter,
Thanks for that info. If you have their names and any photos of these scammer's, please feel free to post any and all info on them! I wish they could just ROT in Jail!!!!
TW
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here are the pictures of arrested suspects selling FAKE GOLD BARS and GOLDEN BUDDHA here in the province PALAWAN, Philippines, for REFERENCE only and beware of them, don not transact business in relation to TREASURES.
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beware of these people
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beware of them
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FANTASTIC! Thanks for that bro!
TW
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Nice pics Troubleshooter!
Kawawa naman si lolo and lola (pity for the old man and woman)
Welcome Bro and Buenas Dias!
Malmon Hunter
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whooaa at last, a "Rogues Gallery"
well done sir.
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yes precisely janner, its a rogues gallery of the scammers, just want to inform the public, if you notice the picture of ELIZAR AGUILOS with him two pieces of sliced fake gold bars, he robbed his uncle in his owned house then he killed it by means of mutilations then he fled to the airport to escape but suddenly the metal detector of the airport detected a metal in his body, at that juncture suspect was searched by the airport police and subsequently arrested, he is now languishing in puerto princesa city jail for the crime of murder without BAIL.
suspect think that it were GENUINE gold bar, where in fact according to his relatives, the golden metals are given to them by their friend as a souvenir.
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yes precisely janner, its a rogues gallery of the scammers, just want to inform the public, if you notice the picture of ELIZAR AGUILOS with him two pieces of sliced fake gold bars, he robbed his uncle in his owned house then he killed it by means of mutilations then he fled to the airport to escape but suddenly the metal detector of the airport detected a metal in his body, at that juncture suspect was searched by the airport police and subsequently arrested, he is now languishing in puerto princesa city jail for the crime of murder without BAIL.
suspect think that it were GENUINE gold bar, where in fact according to his relatives, the golden metals are given to them by their friend as a souvenir.
Jesus! What a SCUM-BAG! Imagine he can do this to his own uncle! Let him rot in HELL for that. Once again, thanks for all this great info you're providing here. If I had it my way, we would post the NAMES and PHOTOS of ALL the LOW-LIFE GOLD SELLING SCAMMERS throughout in the Entire Philippines here on TSEATC for everyone to see and be aware of!! If we could prevent even ONE SCAM, ROBBERY, CHEATING SCHEME with info provided here by everyone I feel better already!
TW
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JURRY TAGYAM is from Municipality of Quezon, Palawan he and his cohorts engaged in "BUDOL BUDOL GANG" selling fake GOLD BARS, and FRB/FRN and JP MORGAN boxes.
Police arrested him in the actual possession of ILLEGALLY FIRE ARMED (HOME MADE PISTOLIZED SHOTGUN) while waiting for his would be victim.
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THIS TWO ARRESTED SUSPECTS (JAMES LOBOTA CHUA @ TAKIDA and HAROLD ADAMOS CABATBAT) ARE FROM METRO MANILA, THEY WENT TO PALAWAN SELLING FAKE ITEMS SUCH AS FISH VITAMINS/FERTILIZER, WHEN THEIR CUSTOMERS AGREED AND PAY THE ITEMS IN MILLION PESOS, IT TURNS OUT ONLY "CORNED BEEF" BUT BEFORE THEY BOARDED THE PLANE GOING BACK TO MANILA, THEY WERE ARRESTED AND PUT TO JAIL BUT SUBSEQUENTLY POSTED THEIR BAIL FOR TEMPORARY LIBERTY.
ALIAS WARRANT OF ARREST HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THEIR IMMEDIATE ARREST, BEWARE OF THIS GUYS.
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FANTASTIC!!!
Hey is that a 12 gauge shotgun PISTOL?? I've never seen one of those before.
TW
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yes TW that is what we called "HOME MADE PISTOLIZED 12 GAUGE SHOT GUN", there is none in the market, only here in the philippines ha ha ha, have you ever seen a revolber pistol with M-16 armalite ammunition?
yours,
TS
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Wow.. that's amazing! I can imagine that thing can do some SERIOUS damage to any close-up target!
No. Never in my life have I heard of a revolver that shoots .223 caliber bullets! Can you post some photos of that?
TW
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yes i will post it here, i am trying to look into my files, some firearms sold in the phil is made of Czechoslovakia but we have our local version called "CEBUSLOVAKIA" meaning made in CEBU CITY ha ha ha its a joke but its really true. even dindo can say something about this.
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there are many types of DANAO pistol/guns made in CEBU City Guns Factory... i visited there once in Danao City Cebu... you can see there many types of recon or revised guns that they made in Manual (MANO-MANO) and that you can never seen in the market... :D
Raqz ;)
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ts,
That's ONE HECK OF A CATCH!!! ;D ;D ;D ;)... hehehe
It'll do great deal of info to all those THunters out there.
That a very BIG TANGO!!! ...for the gallery. ;)
Nice 1 bro! ;)
s_c 8)
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Nice PICTORIALS,,,at last we have those Bastard Scammers posted here,,,and mind you people that some of those names are actually seen in Ming Forum few years ago...I LOVE to see more of this kind posted here....
***hey! that 12gauge pistol seems to be too much? im wondering how he controls the impact?...and safety?? :D ;D
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Nice photo collections of scammers. Beware also of a person named WILLIAM ONODA DELA CERNA. He is also a scammer. There are also 12 gauge pistols here in the North, proudly made in Vigan City and Santa, Ilocos Sur, revolvers with 5.56 ammunition, semi auto shot guns made of GI pipes and many more. Filipinos are creative. ;)
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Most "Flare" guns are 12 gauge caliber, but they only fire a mild charge and a propelled Flare.
unlike a 9 ball 12g shotgun shell...so... heavy on the wrists......
But Deadly at 10m...ouch
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ghost, thanks for the additional info, can you please attach pictures of revolver 5.56 armalite ammos for the consumption of everybody, i can't find my files.
thanks,
TS
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Thanks for the cooperation guys especially to troubleshooter, but be careful TW in posting pics of persons there must be a sort of verification first, we don't know if there's someone out there with an axe to grind to someone or to anyone and send you photos of that poor innocent someone, then that's bearing false witness against those poor brothers maligned.
But if after your due careful investigation and evaluation, then by all means TW, post photos of those bastards and connect it to other networks of sites which shares common interest.
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benvalmores, thanks for the great idea, to be frank with you, i am the one provided and attached pictures of arrested suspects in FAKE GOLD SCAM and OTHER SCAMS here in our place, all pictures attached for the information of everybody that they are arrested because they involved in the scams, the others are recidivist offender, besides, all pictures attached has a pending cases filed in court, so there is no violation of laws as far as i know.
WARNING: beware of those persons and do not negotiate with them regarding GOLD BARS and TREASURE or your might be the next victim.
Thanks,
TS
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benvalmores, thanks for the great idea, to be frank with you, i am the one provided and attached pictures of arrested suspects in FAKE GOLD SCAM and OTHER SCAMS here in our place, all pictures attached for the information of everybody that they are arrested because they involved in the scams, the others are recidivist offender, besides, all pictures attached has a pending cases filed in court, so there is no violation of laws as far as i know.
WARNING: beware of those persons and do not negotiate with them regarding GOLD BARS and TREASURE or your might be the next victim.
Thanks,
TS
Ben, thanks and in my opinion, the pictures and info you've sent us on these Gold SCAMMERS is good enough for me to want to post them all here.
TW
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Please be careful in dealing with a group from Agusan del Sur, with a woman spokesperson, Nitz Cilag, whom I encountered during my Mindanao Trips late 2009. Got some pics of her husband when I met them for the 2nd time during daytime....
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I am the one holding the newspaper and doing the measurements....The members of the group do not want their faces shown...especially a picture of Nitz Cilag...
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great inday.jones,Correction, its INDOY JONES it is very simple, why they dont want to be pictured? why they dont want that their face appeared clearly? the answer is because they are SCAMMERS and the items were 100 percent FAKE, so beware of those persons and dont deal with them especially treasures.
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INDOY JONES, please send other details of the scammers in my email add: babykonanet@yahoo.com.ph so that i can verify their involvement in other provinces, i have a list of most wanted persons in our country. thanks
TS
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I am the one holding the newspaper and doing the measurements....The members of the group do not want their faces shown...especially a picture of Nitz Cilag...
Maybe they are camera shy or they have something to hide.
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injo if you have other photos of them that we can see there faces please post here so that they cannot victimized again... i hate really really hate SCAMMERS...
Raqz ;)
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thanks you for the correction, big big sorry, it is not intended thanks again moderator
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I am the one holding the newspaper and doing the measurements....The members of the group do not want their faces shown...especially a picture of Nitz Cilag...
Yea, well, I wonder why they don't want their faces shown? Maybe.... BECAUSE THEY'RE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS, CHEATERS AND CROOKS!!!
TW