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Title: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 15, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
I currently new to this site. So any advice would be appreciated:
To begin here is the story, My aunt is having a dream that an engkanto would give her diamonds if she would come with them but she resists, Her dreams are continuous that means each dream is a continuation of the other one. ;D
So every year she would offer a sacrifice ( mass feeding every month of May) or else she is getting sick, ??? No idea
So this year an engkanto(KING) showed himself to my Uncle and two aunts that they are giving away the treasures buried 5m and 15m underground with specific locations. :o
Should we believe if this treasure is true? ???
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Johny Bravo on June 16, 2011, 12:31:01 AM
Adrian,

Welcome to TSEATC. In regards to your question, better have it check in CSI approach (interview, examine, photograph, sketch, process).

Just my opinion


Johny
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 16, 2011, 10:37:08 AM
I believed that those ENGKANTO are referring to a treasure of having "GOLDEN HEART" which is much better than MATERIALISTIC WORLDLY TREASURES...It may not connected on any treasures underneath but the SOULS...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: AU24K on June 16, 2011, 12:15:31 PM
sir,,,

dreams of one person is connected to lives.....
they communicate through her dreams of entity of spiritual power..
but u studied secretly the situation...
my friend of mine have a same situation....

if u will start or plan to dig the site... something situation u will encountered....


Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 16, 2011, 03:24:11 PM
Can you site some situation that might happened?

and What is the probability that there is a gold.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 16, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
Adrian,
        What is this encanto that you are talking about and they even have a king, are you somehow referring to duendes(dwarfs) as they are the only ones that I know of who has kingdoms and Kings or Royalties? The term Encanto is used a lot in the Philippines but to tell you the truth, I do not really know what it is, do you?. Does it mean Unseen Entities ? I suggest you be more
concise or be more specific for us to have a better understanding of your site.  
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 17, 2011, 02:49:02 PM
The kings of duendes is the one talking to my aunt.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 18, 2011, 07:41:55 AM
The kings of duendes is the one talking to my aunt.
      There are 3 kinds of Dwarfs, The White Dwarfs, the Red and the Black. Guess what, the dwarf you are talking about is the King of the Black Dwarf. Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: AU24K on June 18, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
sir.. TH..

the owner of my new site have the same situation but in different entity will communicate to her. she have personal astral projection or dimension, when she sleep her spirit was see the item on the said site but she cannot find who can communicate to guardian of said precious item....

pls. give an advice/info
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 20, 2011, 03:51:40 PM
Why are they black? It might be possible because they inflict sickness before, if she doesnt offer feeding sacrifices.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 21, 2011, 04:41:29 AM
Why are they black? It might be possible because they inflict sickness before, if she doesnt offer feeding sacrifices.
;D It is like asking why their is Caucasians, Blacks, Mongoloids and Malayan Race and honestly, I have no answer to that.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 21, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
I guess we should study their race too! ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 22, 2011, 07:55:38 PM
Go on further, I would like to learn.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 23, 2011, 08:39:04 AM
Why are they black? It might be possible because they inflict sickness before, if she doesnt offer feeding sacrifices.

what kind of feeding sacrifice...i hope it's not what i think.. ??? ???

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 23, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
Haha, Its not what you think...
Similar like fiesta free food for other people, one large pig, Would offer small amount of that cooked food to their headquarters near the bamboo, There were instances my aunt and cousins could see the food and water diminished slowly...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 24, 2011, 01:39:07 AM
diminished??? thats pretty cool! :o
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 24, 2011, 07:48:02 AM
Yep, the Ants got to it. ::)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 24, 2011, 08:15:12 AM
adrian tomorrow you will start digging that 5 meters.... then by Sunday you will finished it.... ??? please post it here in a documented way of what happen on that 5 meters we will wait the update soon... ???  hope that dream and stories is a REAL one.... ;D  and i know you read the tips and rules in digging.... ;D good luck and God bless... :D

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Corel on June 24, 2011, 01:50:09 PM
adrian tomorrow you will start digging that 5 meters.... then by Sunday you will finished it.... ??? please post it here in a documented way of what happen on that 5 meters we will wait the update soon... ???  hope that dream and stories is a REAL one.... ;D  and i know you read the tips and rules in digging.... ;D good luck and God bless... :D

Raqz ;)

The agony of waiting.... good luck :)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 24, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
diminished??? thats pretty cool! :o
Like magic...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boylara on June 24, 2011, 07:26:32 PM
Spirits is in the mind and subconcious while what you touch physically and see in and open eyes is not an illusion. Only those who are gifted or have the 3rd eye? can see.. Beware of the bad spirits...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 24, 2011, 11:18:22 PM
Spirits is in the mind and subconcious while what you touch physically and see in and open eyes is not an illusion. Only those who are gifted or have the 3rd eye? can see.. Beware of the bad spirits...
Thanks. Wasn't even aware of that.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 25, 2011, 03:38:57 PM
so what is the update now adrian.... ::) ??? is there any development in your site..  ??? take some videos and photos of your site.. we are waiting for that update adrian.. hope you will post soon.... ;D good luck and God bless....

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 25, 2011, 09:42:24 PM
One meter left, Huge stones with markings were found, Similar to projections in the dream.(My aunt with 3rd eye)

The treasure hunter didn't allowed to take pics. But I will post pics of Gold Bars(prolly we found)




Glad you were interested in these.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 26, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
photos/picture speaks a thousands words.. there's nothing wrong if you take photos for documentation.. i smell not good about this... just my opinion.... ;D by the way i just don't get it according to your stories 5 meters deep why you cant rent a HEAVY EQUIPMENT for easy way to get it just a few hours then you will have the answer... ??? ??? ::)

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 26, 2011, 11:12:02 PM
How can you use Backhoes in a backyard? Our family would like to stay meek regarding to digging site.
They even bought cylinder blocks to cover up the digging to make neighbors think they were digging wells.


Sorry that I can't pose pictures from the dig.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Czar on June 27, 2011, 01:46:56 AM
"cylinder blocks"? maybe RCP ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 27, 2011, 02:45:54 AM
Oh that is fine,,,you can reuse that hole later as artesian well just in case... ::)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 27, 2011, 09:07:54 PM
Oh that is fine,,,you can reuse that hole later as artesian well just in case... ::)
Good Idea,

BTW, They have reached very matter similar to a concrete, They've been using water pumps. That's all for now.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 28, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
How can you use Backhoes in a backyard? Our family would like to stay meek regarding to digging site.
They even bought cylinder blocks to cover up the digging to make neighbors think they were digging wells.


Sorry that I can't pose pictures from the dig.
          What is this CYLINDER BLOCK, is it a 4 cylinder, 6 or 8 cylinder and what does it have to do with Wells.  ::) Unless you are overhauling an engine that has a crack block. ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on June 28, 2011, 04:43:07 PM
It was supposed to be called RCP (Reinforced Concrete Pipe) or in local lingo - Circular Culvert (Imburnal). The diameter is ranging from 6" to 72".
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 28, 2011, 04:56:23 PM
yah  i remember cylinder block.. when my 2nd hand Toyota was over heat..according to the auto mechanic maam you need to overhaul your engine because the cylinder block was crack.....and never mined the payment... ;D  and the Question is... ??? what is the purpose of the Cylinder block in the site of adrian...  ?? ??? ??? is he make an auto shop there.. ::) ???  i'm not disappointing you adrian.. :D but because of your to much attitude you cannot gets some good advices and information regarding in our site to the expert in THng.. because you make yourself as much expert of the respective and expert member here in TSEATC about Thng... my advice to you is READ every post in this site/forum so that you will learned and get what is important in Thng.. just my advice..Good Luck and GBU...

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 28, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
yah  i remember cylinder block.. when my 2nd hand Toyota was over heat..according to the auto mechanic maam you need to overhaul your engine because the cylinder block was crack.....and never mined the payment... ;D  and the Question is... ??? what is the purpose of the Cylinder block in the site of adrian...  ?? ??? ??? is he make an auto shop there.. ::) ???  i'm not disappointing you adrian.. :D but because of your to much attitude you cannot gets some good advices and information regarding in our site to the expert in THng.. because you make yourself as much expert of the respective and expert member here in TSEATC about Thng... my advice to you is READ every post in this site/forum so that you will learned and get what is important in Thng.. just my advice..Good Luck and GBU...

Raqz ;)
Hahah, I was wrong, Sir dindo was correct. Circular Pipe for Imburnals.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 28, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
How can you use Backhoes in a backyard? Our family would like to stay meek regarding to digging site.
They even bought cylinder blocks to cover up the digging to make neighbors think they were digging wells.


Sorry that I can't pose pictures from the dig.
          What is this CYLINDER BLOCK, is it a 4 cylinder, 6 or 8 cylinder and what does it have to do with Wells.  ::) Unless you are overhauling an engine that has a crack block. ;)
T_T I was wrong for the correct term, Imburnal cylinders.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 28, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
Update: To bad hole got covered by dirt again(soil was pretty soft)....I was wondering why they didn't use the RCP(Imburnal Cylinders)..
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: ghost on June 28, 2011, 11:18:44 PM
You see, thunting is not a picnic in the park. You started on the wrong time of the season, what do you expect, loose soil due to water from rain. And again, using that Imburnal as you think is practical in digging, it's a big no. Theory is good but application no. I experienced first hand before with a backhoe and a one meter diameter of that imburnal in a site but to no use. We shelf the project for future recovery to cut it short.  :o ???
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 29, 2011, 12:00:33 AM
You see, thunting is not a picnic in the park. You started on the wrong time of the season, what do you expect, loose soil due to water from rain. And again, using that Imburnal as you think is practical in digging, it's a big no. Theory is good but application no. I experienced first hand before with a backhoe and a one meter diameter of that imburnal in a site but to no use. We shelf the project for future recovery to cut it short.  :o ???
Sorry but can you explain for noobs like me?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 29, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
Update: Due to much water, They'll be needing a submersible water pumps. They have reached 9 meters, Concrete lid.  :)
They have found different stones with signs( Maybe those were the markers). One was a boots shaped stones.

Question: Why would there be a concrete stone under 9 m?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 29, 2011, 11:38:03 PM
It looks like most here are working on a huge project?,most are talking on a deep hole? Why? there are just numerous so deep treasures except those blasted tunnels...Will everyone here think that ITS WAR? If they knew that they are not losing the war then its impossible for them to hide this treasures,, am i right? So here comes the Allied Forces in hot pursuit,,,will they still have time to hide them deep? definetly not! so what they did is hid treasures in simplier but complicated way,,,and UNEXPECTED LOCATIONS that even your wildest dream cant think of it..REVERSE YOUR THINKING and YOU SHALL WIN THE GAME!!!!
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: t_hunter44 on June 30, 2011, 06:43:33 AM
It looks like most here are working on a huge project?,most are talking on a deep hole? Why? there are just numerous so deep treasures except those blasted tunnels...Will everyone here think that ITS WAR? If they knew that they are not losing the war then its impossible for them to hide this treasures,, am i right? So here comes the Allied Forces in hot pursuit,,,will they still have time to hide them deep? definetly not! so what they did is hid treasures in simplier but complicated way,,,and UNEXPECTED LOCATIONS that even your wildest dream cant think of it..REVERSE YOUR THINKING and YOU SHALL WIN THE GAME!!!!

Gener,  Yep, that is true that they do not have the time to dig deep holes while on the run except in areas where they have camped and has used POW labor and that is the big cache. Matter of fact I stated, on the same lines, just to refute the claim of NS about 41 possible Japanese cache in one area or location. 
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on June 30, 2011, 07:58:53 AM
Update: Due to much water, They'll be needing a submersible water pumps. They have reached 9 meters, Concrete lid.  :)
They have found different stones with signs( Maybe those were the markers). One was a boots shaped stones.

Question: Why would there be a concrete stone under 9 m?

I thought  your  target  is  5m?
But  you are  already 9m right now?
Maybe the Guardians of that item.. transferred the item to other target.
Consult  DB & T-H44.  They are the right persons for this matter.
They can help you.
Why ask  that Black Dwarf...  why you haven't  hit the target..  though you are 9m now.
Or maybe  the Black dwarf   changes his mind not  to give in the items .  Or that items  can be found only  in the world of illusion or in you hallucation state.
Or maybe  this  spot   is a  Main  Bulk...
 
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on June 30, 2011, 08:31:39 AM
is that the latest update 9 meters.... ::) ??? that's what i'm talking about.. if you listen to out fellow members here and not to be acting like more than of them.. will maybe they can help you.. and now that is the reward of you attitude... but anyway try to go deeper maybe you can find it there... just tell the digger be careful... PEACE

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 30, 2011, 04:15:23 PM


Gener,  Yep, that is true that they do not have the time to dig deep holes while on the run except in areas where they have camped and has used POW labor and that is the big cache. Matter of fact I stated, on the same lines, just to refute the claim of NS about 41 possible Japanese cache in one area or location. 
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Thats right T44, Its impossible for them to hide that 41 cache in one location,,,No way! they are not there to play poker or dice! they are dissilusioned,hungry and worried for their life. they cant be like termites digging holes for pleasure of hiding a treasure and come out smiling.. ::)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on June 30, 2011, 04:23:31 PM
I dont think if asking a BLACK DWARF is a good idea! why dont ask the ALMIGHTY as thats far better i guess,,What if that black dwarf is a joker? he told you to dig down 25 meters then once you reached that much of depth and he will tell you,,,,,"SORRY BOY! IM JUST KIDDING!!" :o ???.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 30, 2011, 05:39:03 PM
I dont think if asking a BLACK DWARF is a good idea! why dont ask the ALMIGHTY as thats far better i guess,,What if that black dwarf is a joker? he told you to dig down 25 meters then once you reached that much of depth and he will tell you,,,,,"SORRY BOY! IM JUST KIDDING!!" :o ???.

^_^ Those things may happened, but right now Its better to be optimistic.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 30, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
is that the latest update 9 meters.... ::) ??? that's what i'm talking about.. if you listen to out fellow members here and not to be acting like more than of them.. will maybe they can help you.. and now that is the reward of you attitude... but anyway try to go deeper maybe you can find it there... just tell the digger be careful... PEACE

Raqz ;)
Now what do you suggest we do?


The scanner: reads positive.
The treasure hunter: Which might be as same level as some people here "Says he had encountered similar previous experiences"
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on June 30, 2011, 05:46:58 PM
Update: Due to much water, They'll be needing a submersible water pumps. They have reached 9 meters, Concrete lid.  :)
They have found different stones with signs( Maybe those were the markers). One was a boots shaped stones.

Question: Why would there be a concrete stone under 9 m?

I thought  your  target  is  5m?
But  you are  already 9m right now?
Maybe the Guardians of that item.. transferred the item to other target.
Consult  DB & T-H44.  They are the right persons for this matter.
They can help you.
Why ask  that Black Dwarf...  why you haven't  hit the target..  though you are 9m now.
Or maybe  the Black dwarf   changes his mind not  to give in the items .  Or that items  can be found only  in the world of illusion or in you hallucation state.
Or maybe  this  spot   is a  Main  Bulk...
 
Serious Question....Can guardians transfer items? They already said yes and they have made my aunt signed some paper(in dreams only) ^_^
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on July 01, 2011, 09:17:21 AM
 
Serious Question....Can guardians transfer items? They already said yes and they have made my aunt signed some paper(in dreams only) ^_^

adrian please click this thread so that you can have the answer.....

http://www.tseatc.com/smf/index.php/topic,1249.0.html

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 01, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
 
Serious Question....Can guardians transfer items? They already said yes and they have made my aunt signed some paper(in dreams only) ^_^

adrian please click this thread so that you can have the answer.....

http://www.tseatc.com/smf/index.php/topic,1249.0.html

Raqz ;)
Thanks for the link, Yes, I was able to read that before.




So a big NO?  ???
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: ghost on July 01, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
Then go for it Adrian. You can post the result here soon. Gold or dirt is always welcome. Hope you the best.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 02, 2011, 02:01:44 PM
Then go for it Adrian. You can post the result here soon. Gold or dirt is always welcome. Hope you the best.
>:( 9 is wrong info. About 7m only. Lots of sand.
My uncle just bought a submersible pump 22k two days ago.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: raquel_lyks on July 02, 2011, 03:35:46 PM
Then go for it Adrian. You can post the result here soon. Gold or dirt is always welcome. Hope you the best.
>:( 9 is wrong info. About 7m only. Lots of sand.
My uncle just bought a submersible pump 22k two days ago.

he bought that sub pump.. is the black dwarf told to your aunt that they need to buy that pump.. i just hope you will not reach 24 meters as what happen to my father in there first site due to his dream and wrong selecting of scanner... better go there and take photos of that sand and dirt they have found in the hole for our fellow members here can advised you before your the pocket will empty..just my advice adrian

Raqz ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 02, 2011, 07:21:38 PM
Then go for it Adrian. You can post the result here soon. Gold or dirt is always welcome. Hope you the best.
>:( 9 is wrong info. About 7m only. Lots of sand.
My uncle just bought a submersible pump 22k two days ago.

he bought that sub pump.. is the black dwarf told to your aunt that they need to buy that pump.. i just hope you will not reach 24 meters as what happen to my father in there first site due to his dream and wrong selecting of scanner... better go there and take photos of that sand and dirt they have found in the hole for our fellow members here can advised you before your the pocket will empty..just my advice adrian

Raqz ;)
Dwarfs have already transferred to other places, @Selecting wrong scanner? Please aware me what happened? Thanks.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 03, 2011, 04:58:18 PM
adrian dwarfs cannot transfer the concrete vault, it is far too difficult for them to carry/move/lift up as the vault is too heavy!

         but wait,do you believe on what you say,"Dwarfs have already transferred to other places"???

  adrian only human efforts and natural phenomenon such as earthquakes,great typhoons or any other natural phenomenon that would bring great impact or force to cause the heavy vaults to move in.
       if they(unseen entities or guardians) could do something,i believe, it is by deceiving our eyes and minds. seems they are controlling our most important factors in treasure hunting.We look but we cannot see.we think but they lead us to nothing.
 
                    my 2 cents worth
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 03, 2011, 05:11:39 PM
If that dwarf is manipulating that treasure and digging underneath like a termite to shift that vault then better leave him alone! that treasure cannot be recovered anyway so better back off!!... ;D :D ;D...not unless that you wanted to play with him hide & seek??
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 03, 2011, 05:49:07 PM
if those dwarfs participate to play hide and seek we still got losers all the time..

well,to play with them hide and seek just to establish a bit of friendship it could be better.after all we could have whisper them,to give us the treasure we need,out of mercy, they might approve our cry without thinking.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 03, 2011, 06:05:57 PM
But once you got his treasure and he will not have anything to guard (as most says) that dwarf may come back to you and ask it again to give it back! well that will be a big problem later on once that gold was sold! he may bite up your life!!! :o
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 03, 2011, 06:21:01 PM
does it not come up to his mind,that when he releases the treasures he has nothing to guard with?...so why coming to me and ask the treasure again! i thought they are gentleman to say the deal.

just like a child,when someone has jokingly ask the child, the toy he has holding,or giving something just to lure him,the child would give it the toy.but after a few minutes he would cry and cry wanting to have the toy back in him again.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 03, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
boboi,
 i replied your message brother... ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 03, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
New Story,
One of the TH's friend, Is a doctor-treasure hunter in Tagudin, Ilocos Sur(who's pretty rich, own's a hospital). Said that he three Japanese generals had camped and made a barracks in that site. That plausible story boosted my high hopes.


What do you think.? For now no work in digging."Sunday"
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 03, 2011, 08:50:59 PM
Adrian,
 You love digging are you?, i guess better if you get extensive research before doing so! otherwise you end up excavenging war garbages, remind you that not all generals brings gold or treasure with them... :o
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 03, 2011, 08:57:41 PM
Adrian,
 You love digging are you?, i guess better if you get extensive research before doing so! otherwise you end up excavenging war garbages, remind you that not all generals brings gold or treasure with them... :o
Sir Gene
The scanner and the stones with unique shapes(markers as what others called it). tells differently?

@excavenging garbage, Bayonets and katanas. duende mention that. Those aren't garbages.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 03, 2011, 09:11:22 PM
Sell it to me if you found one katana,,im a blade collector anyway(thought i almost lost all my collections)....at least i can sough 90% discount from you... ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 03, 2011, 11:15:13 PM
...merciful offers
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 04, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
New Update: Bought another submersible pump. Two in all, They could already see the lid(cement cover, what ever you call that).
Hoping this week they could excavate What's inside? If there is any.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 04, 2011, 04:54:55 PM
So better keep quiet about your site for the meantime (but not in tseatc of course) before a swarm of bandits will take over your site,,i hope its the lid!.. ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 04, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
bought another submersible pump,good idea. take a new picture when the water in the hole receded, be sure this time  wont look like a melted ice cream...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 04, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
So better keep quiet about your site for the meantime (but not in tseatc of course) before a swarm of bandits will take over your site,,i hope its the lid!.. ;)
Thanks, Are submersible pumps noisy? If neighbors get suspicious, Digging a deep well would be an alibi.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 04, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
bought another submersible pump,good idea. take a new picture when the water in the hole receded, be sure this time  wont look like a melted ice cream...
Sir Boboi
Sorry what do you mean a melted ice cream? Me getting disappointed.  :'(

For sure I would be depressed, but life goes on.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 04, 2011, 06:52:21 PM
Sell it to me if you found one katana,,im a blade collector anyway(thought i almost lost all my collections)....at least i can sough 90% discount from you... ;)
Sorry sir Gener,
If there are katanas and any other collectibles, I have no say over those items.  ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: boboi on July 04, 2011, 07:40:07 PM
adrian when you are on this field don't easily get disappointed.its everyday trial to test you whether you are capable to succeed or not.

       we describe with what we saw,,nothing wrong with it my friend!

               best wishes,
                    boboi
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 04, 2011, 08:54:32 PM
Adrian,
 You havent used submerisible pump before? Well submersible pump is so quiet since it is submerged..all noise were totally eliminated...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 04, 2011, 10:07:48 PM
Adrian,
 You havent used submerisible pump before? Well submersible pump is so quiet since it is submerged..all noise were totally eliminated...
Hahaha, Haven't seen one.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 10:53:28 AM
Update: Weather on our side, Cement was pretty hard. But Sand is still all over
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
Another: Cool story
In the site, We have a spirit guardian, Both Spirit and Engkanto Guardian. Yes, the spirit is a filipino (decapitated head) and has also agreed to give away the treasure. Believe this or not, but our TH has a diwata friend like other's here. This spirit is helping during the dig but a specific time. I asked my uncle, I what way does he help, he said he loosens the soil, Guys is this possible? And why can't he help all the time.?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 11:31:16 AM
For once, I will answer that one. Spirits and Elemental beings does not jointly guard a treasure. Elemental beings can never prevail over the site guarded by a spirit BECAUSE spirits exist on a higher plane or dimension than the elemental beings. So if a site is said being guarded by both elemental being and a spirit as claimed by a medium, most likely, you are being misled again. Also, spirit can never come and take over a site being guarded by an elemental being. In simple explanation, it is the dimension x,y,z. and the meeting point is our very own dimension.

Point to ponder: Does a spirit die? or do elemental beings die too? If you think about that, between the two in their present state, who is the immortal one?

Check the articles of Prof. Jaime Licaucho on the existence of the spirit and the elemental beings.

Better yet, check the medium. Does he really knew or understood what he had seen? Or he is just hardheaded, stubborn bluffer?

Learn from other's experiences.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
For once, I will answer that one. Spirits and Elemental beings does not jointly guard a treasure. Elemental beings can never prevail over the site guarded by a spirit BECAUSE spirits exist on a higher plane or dimension than the elemental beings. So if a site is said being guarded by both elemental being and a spirit as claimed by a medium, most likely, you are being misled again. Also, spirit can never come and take over a site being guarded by an elemental being. In simple explanation, it is the dimension x,y,z. and the meeting point is our very own dimension.

Point to ponder: Does a spirit die? or do elemental beings die too? If you think about that, between the two in their present state, who is the immortal one?

Check the articles of Prof. Jaime Licaucho on the existence of the spirit and the elemental beings.

Better yet, check the medium. Does he really knew or understood what he had seen? Or he is just hardheaded, stubborn bluffer?

Learn from other's experiences.
Sir Dindo,

Thanks, Since there are two sites is it possible? Each one is 5 or more meters far from each other?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
No, not possible.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 02:35:32 PM
No, not possible.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 06, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
Dindo,
 Since discussions about that DIFFERENCE were opened, Allow me please to understand better about that subject since what i thought at the beginning is that,,,There is only 2 differences and that is between BAD and GOOD spirits, or i actually considered them in the same type likely devil consists of kapre,black dwarf,tikbalang and under GOD side are those good ones...My understanding based from your explanation about "elemental beings" and different "dimensions" are totally dont have any connections in it...
***My home were known to have visitors (proven by a video i am keeping and photos i already shared) in the photos i shown,,its clear that its a tall,beautiful woman that appears (white lady) and on the video is the same lady wearing thesame white dress and just standing exactly where it was formerly photoed...and only that bedroom she used to show herself while the other 3 bedrooms are free from her presence...My question is...Why she appears there? why she stays in that house,,all people knews that its only my house were erected on that land and its not considered as old house as its not even completed yet!..What she wants from there?? I simply ignored many people conclusion that treasure is under my house,, :o and that she is guarding it ;D,(i cant smash my home because of suspected treasure underneath)....But why she is there??
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
Bro, I will answer it on the Paranormal thread.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: admin on July 06, 2011, 08:52:47 PM
Bro, I will answer it on the Paranormal thread.

DB this is the paranormal thread.
TW
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 09:15:55 PM
Yap but I put it in the more proper topic
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 06, 2011, 09:16:26 PM
Yeah,,,I think its my mistake??? i did asked the question on this thread!  :D ??? Sorry guys,,ill answer this on paranormal thread...thanks sirs
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
No bro, it is not a mistake, your question is an incidental motion thereby technically, it is correct. If it could be called mistake, then it is on me for not answering it directly. :D

Bro will you still invite us to meet the "white lady" after 10 months when you return here again??? :D :D :D
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 09:44:14 PM
So If we cross-out the duendes, the Be-headed man is all thats left. The TH asked him when will they reach the vault, He replied Sunday.
So currently its cement-hard soil somewhat made of Ispalto. Have any of you experienced this?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 06, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
It is more on the dwende side since I never knew any beheaded man to be talking. ;D ;D ;D. Check if the beheaded is just a trick/disguise representation crafted by the dwende. By the way, I still do not trust any entity that changes from one disguise to another because for me that is already cheating.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 06, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
It is more on the dwende side since I never knew any beheaded man to be talking. ;D ;D ;D. Check if the beheaded is just a trick/disguise representation crafted by the dwende. By the way, I still do not trust any entity that changes from one disguise to another because for me that is already cheating.
Sorry It maybe wrong in my part, I'm the one misinterpreting the info. ^_^  ;D
But for sure there is a large bungsod. Provided we temporarily cross-out the duendes.
For now both my aunt and this TH could talk to this spirit.(normal conversation, like us humans) They are only ones in there having a third eye


Sir Dindo, I appreciate the help.  ;D
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 07, 2011, 12:48:16 AM
Dindo,
 Not 10 months! thats after 3 months or 6!,,i will be back again for 1 week and your really have to come because of one so important reason. Bring with you your swimsuit and snorkle as were having a river partying somewhere else!
***...And thanks for your long explanation for my BEAUTIFUL LADY and Im sure she will be happy meeting you in my home...I guess she is only waiting for you or T4!!! ;D :D ;D
 
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Corel on July 07, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
Gentlemen,

Sir DB can't respond to your post for now.. he's attending a convention somewhere in NL and should be back soon...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: KIZUNA on July 08, 2011, 12:02:23 AM
Another: Cool story
In the site, We have a spirit guardian, Both Spirit and Engkanto Guardian. Yes, the spirit is a filipino (decapitated head) and has also agreed to give away the treasure. Believe this or not, but our TH has a diwata friend like other's here. This spirit is helping during the dig but a specific time. I asked my uncle, I what way does he help, he said he loosens the soil, Guys is this possible? And why can't he help all the time.?

Sorry Adrian but i found this very ridiculous... i found myself sighing reading this post of yours. Pardon but...haay,hahay...
If only duendes or spirit could point to you where's the body of Bin Ladin, perhaps we could help the searcher.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 08, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Another: Cool story
In the site, We have a spirit guardian, Both Spirit and Engkanto Guardian. Yes, the spirit is a filipino (decapitated head) and has also agreed to give away the treasure. Believe this or not, but our TH has a diwata friend like other's here. This spirit is helping during the dig but a specific time. I asked my uncle, I what way does he help, he said he loosens the soil, Guys is this possible? And why can't he help all the time.?

Sorry Adrian but i found this very ridiculous... i found myself sighing reading this post of yours. Pardon but...haay,hahay...
If only duendes or spirit could point to you where's the body of Bin Ladin, perhaps we could help the searcher.
Yeah, I was asking if that was possible. @Osama's Body, For sure the US Gov won't release it. It would cause an UPROAR!!!
^_^
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 10, 2011, 06:08:57 PM
Update: Excavating was stop due to one of the diggers was a traitor. The Spirits have told the TH to dig to be postponed. They have informed the TH that one digger had a plan of delaying and hiding what's inside the vault, There was one instance that the TH would try to force the dig, He suddenly got pale (dunno "nag-palamuti") , The spirits told the TH to fire the digger, Right now the TH would try to talk this over.  :'(
Poor greedy digger 5% of the total would go to him.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 12, 2011, 01:42:52 PM
Update: Last sunday was supposed to be the opening of the lid. But the spirits didn't want it because one digger was a traitor, So the TH with a diwata tried to cast away the 9 spirits(pugot) but wasn't able to(maybe he isn't that strong enough). Right now the opening of the lid would be resumed next sunday. And regarding about the duendes, The TH said there were three tribes. Out of the 48 trucks of the JIA went to Ilocos Sur, 3 trucks went to Santa Lucia. Buried near the old school, Which was lucky given to my Lola, not knowing that was a previous japanese camp. Even the Doctor-Hunter had a map about the whereabouts of this treasures. I'm not making up all these stories, What would I gain?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 12, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
I dont know?,,,,these looks too much!. ???,,maybe im wrong again?
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: adrian on July 12, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
I dont know?,,,,these looks too much!. ???,,maybe im wrong again?
Apparently, Its true. I'm not make this up, Anyways No Pictures = Not Interested.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 12, 2011, 09:48:40 PM
No offense adrian,,i have more experience than you when it comes to paranormal,far far more than you i guess...but im not sure if they are connected to hidden treasures...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: ghost on July 13, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
On the paranormal side of the story, I don't have interest in that. I'm much more interested on the 48 trucks that went to Ilocos Sur and that 3 trucks that went to your Lola's property. What are you still waiting for, dig it up since it is with in your property now. That's your "gain."

One more thing, you said your from ILOILO, why is it that your too familiar with places up North? No doubt, you are an Ilocano not Ilonggo.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on July 15, 2011, 10:39:31 PM
If that dwarf is manipulating that treasure and digging underneath like a termite to shift that vault then better leave him alone! that treasure cannot be recovered anyway so better back off!!... ;D :D ;D...not unless that you wanted to play with him hide & seek??

You are right  Bro. Gener.

Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: KIZUNA on July 16, 2011, 06:55:20 AM
Hello Adrian this is for you,

I just borrowed this posting from a former member of this forum and i copy pasted it here for you.

"Yes that can happen that a block of cement could vanish, transfer or slide for that matter even though i dont have first hand experience of this sort, but i believe on this one however because as per information from a reliable source, there is really a burial design that is, the concrete block containing the object would slide or move to another chamber if subjected to a great physical force (really an ingenius design of those Japanese mining engineers).

This i believe is the reason when a certain treasure hunter/s experience witnessing this so called "vanishment", they immidiately attribute it to the spirits or something but unknown to them that it is really designed to slide if one mistakenly disturb it.
And this another reason also why so much belief on the supernaturals could lead to quarrels within the group because the believer would often accuse or blame the non-believer that the spirits got angry because there's one within the group that doesnt believe or disobeys rules set by quacks.
So in this line of reasoning, i prefer to be in the group of rational, thinking, pondering educated people...
In my 42 years of life, due to curiosity if there is really this spirits or supernatural sort of things,
i often used to go out in the pit darkness of night wherever i got chance in haunted places, in the barrios and tried to communicate with those "spirits", to come out and let me see them,,.. but up until lately none of any of those spirits surfaced infront to me.
Up until i cant witness any, up until i can explain things scientifically, i will not believe in supernaturals.

Dont fear the spirits but fear the living (wag matakot sa patay pero matakot ka sa buhay)
Fear really, is the fear borne of the unknown."

Adrian your belief in the spirits or its sorts, in my opinion, stems from not knowing the unknown, what is hidden really appears mystical and mysterious and if we dont understand about certain things, we are afraid to what we dont know.

So the solution is, to erase our fears of the unknown, to unravel what seems to be mysterious, ,,WE MUST DO ACTIONS TO KNOW THE UNKNOWN, and if you then realizes and understand things, the "mysteriousness" of it will be gone and so as your fear to the unknown is gone.

If all those sorts of spirits, supernaturals, kapre , dwendes etc. etc. were really true, Philippines would then that great superpower in the world, all the great SUPERPOWER nation USA, and all its military weapons advancement is no match to the SUPERNATURALS eHHH???...

I don't believe in supernaturals, everything can be explained given a proper study.
And is so hard for one to succeed in treasure hunting if your basis in your search are the advices of spirits, dwendes, engkantos etc. etc.

If you dont believe in technology, well you might as well is using your cellular phone, then throw away your mobile phone for it is one great example of a product of study, development and or generally Technology born out of scientific study.
Just a thought to ponder...
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on July 16, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
Another: Cool story
In the site, We have a spirit guardian, Both Spirit and Engkanto Guardian. Yes, the spirit is a filipino (decapitated head) and has also agreed to give away the treasure. Believe this or not, but our TH has a diwata friend like other's here. This spirit is helping during the dig but a specific time. I asked my uncle, I what way does he help, he said he loosens the soil, Guys is this possible? And why can't he help all the time.?

Sorry Adrian but i found this very ridiculous... i found myself sighing reading this post of yours. Pardon but...haay,hahay...
If only duendes or spirit could point to you where's the body of Bin Ladin, perhaps we could help the searcher.


To Sis  KIZUNA!!

Site Guardian  is  really  true.
As part of  Japs  Complex engineering ..  or puzzled arrangement of  buried  treasure  they kill   people  to guard  the said  items.
In Buddhism there were  rituals to be made..  And  please...  Do not  under-estimate  the  ability  of the soul .
I remember  several years  ago  when my sister called  us crying  because her  lil one suffer  from fever  for almost  a month. They had already consulted to a doctor.And even the doctor didn't know  the reason or cause  because  the  laboratory  is very  normal. THen that time i went to  my relative  who is  a quack doctor or  an *albularyo*.THen the  QD told  us..  that  lil one is being  touched  or   hugged  by a spirit.. and that spirit is know to be my  LOLO. She said  the spirit(LOLo's spirit) remind us to remember him.. He wants  a Misa  Requim  and a Prayer. THen we follow what  the QD said. By a wink of an eye  the fever  was gone. So.. my fellas  here.. how  can you explain  this  kind of  situation. EVen the spirits  of  our  forefathers  can make   us sick also..  to remind  us that he should  be remembered. How  much more  a spirits guarding the  items which  has  negative energy in it, anger, agony, hatred.. longing for  justice  etc..  That's  why  we need to deal  with the entities also...   Rituals made  by Buddhist people  is no joke  my friend. SOme of it.. they made a cursed  rituals on the  object itself.  So we need to unlock or cleans the cursed covering or within the  items itself  . So consult  your dowser or  your medium regarding this matter. Even  Our  X-Mayor here  who is a Chinese  Filipino and a Treasure  hunter had  Mediums and QD also..

GOD  BLESS,

Young hunter  GE
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 16, 2011, 08:03:30 PM
Supernaturals are true,,but too much depending on what those said entities can do is not a good idea at all! Dont focus much on their underworld capabilities as we mortal human beings are the one who put them in place,,means those metals are for us..They may possess power that can make our brains unstable but still we humans are more powerful than them,,have the flesh and technology to show force and mortal energy. We have the brain and knowledge to drive them out if we wanted and we have the power to know if those entities are black or white!.....
***Our country is known as a nest of "MANANANGGAL" (a kind of flying vampire) even before the war but i havent heard anyone of them getting a medal,,They have all the capabilities and advantage over japanese enemies as they can hover (stealth) on top of any camps to drop,lob bombs,grenades or even just stones every night and drive all the remaining outside the country. but they did not! WHY???? are they selfish or simply deprived their country...or they dont exists at all!
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on July 21, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
Supernaturals are true,,but too much depending on what those said entities can do is not a good idea at all! Dont focus much on their underworld capabilities as we mortal human beings are the one who put them in place,,means those metals are for us..They may possess power that can make our brains unstable but still we humans are more powerful than them,,have the flesh and technology to show force and mortal energy. We have the brain and knowledge to drive them out if we wanted and we have the power to know if those entities are black or white!.....
***Our country is known as a nest of "MANANANGGAL" (a kind of flying vampire) even before the war but i havent heard anyone of them getting a medal,,They have all the capabilities and advantage over japanese enemies as they can hover (stealth) on top of any camps to drop,lob bombs,grenades or even just stones every night and drive all the remaining outside the country. but they did not! WHY???? are they selfish or simply deprived their country...or they dont exists at all!


You right...    Bro. Gener and that's true. Humans are more  powerful than spirits.
But for me  as part of T-hunting, Dowsers  or  Dowsing itself  is  important. By this dowsing thing  we would  be able  to know  that  that the owner of the lot  can be  trusted or  not.  Or even our  diggers  can be trusted  or  not.  And it  is  important  for us to deal  with the object  guard  or  controlling entities  of  the items.. And that's  the dowser's  job. Thru  dowsing  we would  be also able  to know  that the Guardian s is willing to  surrender  the items  or  not. If  not, we  would  be able  to   know  the reasons  like: 1)we  are not worthy to recieved  it 2.)A retrieval sabotage plan  by the  diggers  themselves. and etc..

To  my  fella  T-H   here!!
Bout  treasure  Cursed, this  is  really true:  A well  known  T-hunter in Cebu  owns  many  laboratories  in  his  Lacto(Herbal  business)  as a  result  of  his  victory in T-hunting  but  never  share his  blessings to his  diggers and  others  who have contributed the success of their  projects... Just  look  what happened  to  him .. he  celebrated  his  b-day  in Nov.1 and  2.  Greediness  could  kill my friend.


My friend(Girl)     in  Vallodolid  who  recovered  Au's   but never  give  a fair  share  to  those  persons  who have helped  her site... And  iv'e  known  from a reliable source  that their  family  suffered tragic events  starting  from the day  they  fool  those persons  who have helped  them a lot..  up to  the present.  Then I would  say again  Greediness...  could  kill...


Mr. Nene  G. in Fab-  Neg. Occ.  hit  many  target  and become  bigatin  and  big  time  cocker  in  Neg. 
But  he  changed,  he became  arrogant .  When  his  relatives asked  a help   to him because  his (relatives) son   suffer  from  sickness   ..  but  Mr. N. G.  just  simply  say  to  his  relatives,  Go and  Plant Camote  or Plant  Rice.. or  Cultivate  in a Ricefield  to earn money. To make  the story  concised  he dont'  help  his  relatives... After a year   he suffered  cancer  and die.   

Soo  very  poor    homo  sapien..    That's  only material  thing.  If  God   grants  us  the  blessings  then stay  humble  and be  kindhearted.. Share  a little.. God  will surely  see  what we are  doing... And  God  will be happy  if  we will do that..

One thing more this  is  what my t-hunter  friend  told me:  to cleansed  the cursed  within  the items  is  share  the blessings even a little.. donate  to a sect or church.
There are many ways in helping  people  without  been  having  exposed  for  security  reasons.


GOD  BLESS,,

GE
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: admin on July 21, 2011, 09:00:17 PM
Gerald, many people believe you get back what you get out of life so isn't that also known as KARMA?
TW
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on July 21, 2011, 09:19:36 PM
Karma - it is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings. We get the fruit of what we sow, We reap what we sow.

The point is ... you sow a handful of goodness, you reap a sack full of happiness (it multiplied more), you sow a seed of hatred, you reap a truckload of sorrow (again it multiplied).

The cause and effect of actions done.
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: Gener on July 21, 2011, 11:18:31 PM
I wish i could not retreave any treasure,,,If that will make me greedy...
**I dont like to be rich--They will accuse me selfish..
**I dont like to be rich--That will limit my freedom as i need guards to protect me and my shadow is my enemy.. ;)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on July 22, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
Gerald, many people believe you get back what you get out of life so isn't that also known as KARMA?
TW

Yes  Sir  Admin.

Law  of  Karma.
In Buddhism  there  are  2  kinds of  karma.  The  Good  and the Bad Karma.
When you plant  a Good  Karma  then you will harvest  the same.
When you plant bad  karma you will  harvest  the same or even seven  or tenfold.

 :)
Title: Re: Help and Need Advices
Post by: gerald on July 24, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
Update: Due to much water, They'll be needing a submersible water pumps. They have reached 9 meters, Concrete lid.  :)
They have found different stones with signs( Maybe those were the markers). One was a boots shaped stones.

Question: Why would there be a concrete stone under 9 m?

I thought  your  target  is  5m?
But  you are  already 9m right now?
Maybe the Guardians of that item.. transferred the item to other target.
Consult  DB & T-H44.  They are the right persons for this matter.
They can help you.
Why ask  that Black Dwarf...  why you haven't  hit the target..  though you are 9m now.
Or maybe  the Black dwarf   changes his mind not  to give in the items .  Or that items  can be found only  in the world of illusion or in you hallucation state.
Or maybe  this  spot   is a  Main  Bulk...
 
Serious Question....Can guardians transfer items? They already said yes and they have made my aunt signed some paper(in dreams only) ^_^
  _____ooo____
Good  day my friend   Adrian.
I think this is the time for  reconciliation.
Let's forgive and forget.
I know  we are all human we made mistakes.
Let's start  a new frienship. I have erased  those  black dots.. in  your  clear white bond paper.


Anyway  you are asking  me  bout , Can A Guardian  transfer the items to another location?

My answer is  101% yes right now.
I have proven it.
In my own site.. the  Guardian transferred the items  to another  location because there was a problem with our diggers. No question about us and the owner of the lot  but the diggers themselves.  They have a plan of  coup de etat in our own site. The so called *Retrieval Sabotage* is to be made  by the diggers.  And I am very thankful for this Dowsing Thing.Thru Dowsing we have  discovered  that they have a plan of Retrieval Sabotage. Thru  Dowsing we can even know  that our diggers who were  good  from the start  became worst  when the target  is near.In connection with that  items... transferred the Site Guardian will just  show it when the right time comes and with the right guy  digging the spot. In other words we have to look for the chosen few diggers those with clean mind and heart from the start up to the end of the operation.

Bout Dowsing you can asked  help  here  from our fellow  members here.. There are Good Dowsers  here.. Not    just  Good  but  I believe there  better.
I am sure you know them...  Ask help  from  them with sincerity and pureness  in heart. And I am very much sure they will help you.  Just  like a little child who ask help from there parents.

GOD BLESS US ALL,

GE

 ;) ;) ;)









And  I have  noticed your cool an