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Title: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 01, 2011, 06:09:36 PM
Hello everyone. Could anyone offer an opinion over what we found in our site? We detected a strong ideo-motor response over a spot which we intended to dig later. It was at the base of a huge, old mango tree which had recently died and beside a somewhat big stone right beside the tree. Before we dug, we enlisted the help of Victor Rocales with the aid of his home-made GPR and pulse induction detector and who had to enplane from faraway Cebu City. He did his thing over the area and thought it was positive. When we dug it up, we found two red spanish bricks at 4 feet. Then some layers of stone and gravel and then another layer of pure soil. We reached down to 17 feet and we hit water so stopped until our water pump arrives.
While waiting we decided to enlarge our hole, this time digging beneath the tree. When we removed the big stone, we came upon an old grenade (American I think) and I almost dived when I saw it. Luckily, it did not explode as the detonator must have been stuck up by the rust. We quickly buried it away for safety purposes.
We continued to dig straight down and saw three different layers soil, rock and soil. We reached maybe fifteen feet and stopped because of the super typhoon and escaped to Baguio. My companions say they recovered a square rock which they though was a marker.
Now what puzzles me is the purpose of the grenade? If it exploded, it would have attracted attention to the spot and invite diggers, the very opposite that the treasure owner would like. Could it have been a decoy to draw attention away from the real spot? And why is it an American grenade? Would it have been used by a Japanese soldier as a marker?
I was not able to take pictures of the grenade because I disdained going near it then but I shall post a picture of what it resembles.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 01, 2011, 06:22:19 PM
Myres,
 I know also Victor Rocales I preffered to buy his home made PI detector.It comes out that your site is positive one.I think some guys here could help regarding in your site.and better you attached also some pictures in your site and the so-called markers so that they can give you good advices.



Bovic32
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 01, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Hello Sir Bovic32. Okay, I will try to transfer some pictures from my cellphone. The problem is I am not very well versed with bluetooth. Will certainly give it a try. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 01, 2011, 06:55:12 PM
You're welcome.Regards to Engr.Vic Rocales if ever you had communication.Maybe next year I invite him in our site somewhere in mindanao
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 02, 2011, 09:26:58 AM
That is an Mk II american granade. In the local filipino military lingo, that is called "atis".
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 08, 2011, 10:44:43 AM
Hello guys. Here are the red bricks we dug up at four feet into our dig. I just extracted them from my cellphone. What do you think?
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 08, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
Some other (suspected?) markers we recovered. Victor Rocales strongly thinks the sketch represents the treasure map. This is what he had to say:

Myres,
 
Square or box stone marker – means “doorway or entrance”.. Continue
down.. ang instructions niya.. Hindi grenade ang na detect ng
G.R.M ko doon. May tatlong deposits doon place in triangular
Formation. Hindi mag papakita ang white lady doon sa mango
Tree na iyon kong ayaw niyang ipa kuha yon. Nag pa kita siya
Kasi gusto niyang ipa kuha. Nong ginamit ko ang GRM at doon
Ang malakas na signal. Letter A – means “downward direction”.
 
Vicrocs

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I say it is interesting. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 08, 2011, 01:26:26 PM
Bro Myres,
 Your site is a positive one.Just go on what your analyzer says, since you are in a right track,I mean it says that if you encounter red or white rock or what ever goods in your site it represents the flag of Japan,just try your luck...



Best regards,

Bovic32
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 08, 2011, 04:29:15 PM
In another site, at the base of an old acacia tree, we saw a square nail driven at the foot of a tree. It was amazingly not rusty and there were eight notches on the body, but it can't be clearly seen on the picture.
In still another site, we found this x mark on a stone, near a spot where they recovered a cache with a skeleton which hands were still bound with wire.
The sites are owned by unknown persons.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 08, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
The X mark. A clear one.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 08, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
Bro Dindo, what do you think the X means?
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 08, 2011, 07:57:36 PM
There are 6 meanings of an "x" mark listed in the 2 public codes plus the code in the care of boy lara. However, your x marks does have a tail? That is something to investigate farther if and only if...

As of now, I am just looking and reading the post here.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 08, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
I observed the pic no 1, I think that is no.8 enclosed in a circle, BTW,no 8 is a lucky no in japanese
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Johny Bravo on October 09, 2011, 12:55:01 AM

Myres, the picture with round stone somebody is holding, that stone has a red drawing, is that a turtle walking?
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: NORTHSTAR on October 09, 2011, 01:03:02 AM
Myres

try this format
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: ZOBEX on October 09, 2011, 03:55:59 AM
In another site, at the base of an old acacia tree, we saw a square nail driven at the foot of a tree. It was amazingly not rusty and there were eight notches on the body, but it can't be clearly seen on the picture.
In still another site, we found this x mark on a stone, near a spot where they recovered a cache with a skeleton which hands were still bound with wire.
The sites are owned by unknown persons.

Myres, on the notches on the nail, these are not notches but rather tear marks in the steel as the nail is driven, most likely a iron nair rather than a steel nail.  Look a a VERY old and used chisel.  As it is pounded on over time the top will 'mushroom' over and as it is pushed out the edges will start to tear.  This is natural to the type of metal used.  A square nail will give four tears, one for each corner and that may further multiply to 8 as the four tears further get split.  A square nail in a tree is a good marker.  So is the ' X '.  I would definitely follow this site.  But it will take you a bit of time to follow it.

Just an opinion.

Z


Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 09, 2011, 08:35:07 AM
Thought Prof NS had left the site..??

Instead he posts more of his Fantasy stuff after being warned!!!!
wow...i mean that is pig headed for sure !! (English expression)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 09, 2011, 01:02:42 PM
Some other (suspected?) markers we recovered. Victor Rocales strongly thinks the sketch represents the treasure map. This is what he had to say:

Myres,
 
Square or box stone marker – means “doorway or entrance”.. Continue
down.. ang instructions niya.. Hindi grenade ang na detect ng
G.R.M ko doon. May tatlong deposits doon place in triangular
Formation. Hindi mag papakita ang white lady doon sa mango
Tree na iyon kong ayaw niyang ipa kuha yon. Nag pa kita siya
Kasi gusto niyang ipa kuha. Nong ginamit ko ang GRM at doon
Ang malakas na signal. Letter A – means “downward direction”.
 
Vicrocs

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I say it is interesting. What do you guys think?



Bro Myres,
 In this site just consider custom and belief of japanese,they are giving gift by set of 3,5,7 and so on,this is their belief.As I observe maybe it coincide only but just try these.Since Vicrocs says 35ft just add 5ft to get exactly 40ft,if ever no object found in 24ft.Just my thought...In our site the tunnel encounter at 18ft,according to our japanese msg they use fathom in measurement so 1fathom=6ftx3=18ft, maybe it is coincide that is only my thought as I consider their belief and of course concealment method.Object still seeking for the meantime...
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: jackbruno on October 09, 2011, 11:40:16 PM
myres,

bovic is ryt brow there is always a marginal error regarding measuring the depthness weder using a hi-tech equipments or ancient one..consider a 5ft plus-minus..let us say if vicrocs  estimit  @ 35ft..it kod be seen n 30ft and max. of 40ft... ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 05:11:36 PM
Hi there brother Jackbruno. The stone with the red painting is a circle and inside the circle is a 9 or a spiral which grows wider.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 05:14:44 PM
Bro Zobex, there are actually 8 notches on the square nail but it could not be taken by the camera.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 05:17:44 PM
Bro Northstar. I am traveling to the site tomorrow and I will take the actual measurement and angles of the three trees and the well and I will send them to you. It is about 3 and a half hour-ride away from Baguio City.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
Guys, by the way, here is a picture of the metal we dug up about 5 feet away from our hole. It was so rusty that i cleaned it up a bit. There was rusty water coming out and this was producing it. I think a part of it is still left and I will dig it up again as soon as I get back there.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
Hello there Sir Janner. Bro Dindo says you recovered some jewelry at the highway boundary of Benguet and Mt. Province with an OKM. Is it really effective, I mean the OKM? We sort of used  an OKM Rover C some months back about 10 kilometers from your recovery site and it detected something. We dug it up about 30 feet deep but there was nothing. Does it pick up mineralized soil? If it did we would have the same readings as the soil was of one type. But the image on the laptop was not moving or would not change position. My companions got tired of digging but we preserved the hole by covering its opening.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 10, 2011, 06:21:41 PM
Hello there Sir Janner. Bro Dindo says you recovered some jewelry at the highway boundary of Benguet and Mt. Province with an OKM. Is it really effective, I mean the OKM? We sort of used  an OKM Rover C some months back about 10 kilometers from your recovery site and it detected something. We dug it up about 30 feet deep but there was nothing. Does it pick up mineralized soil? If it did we would have the same readings as the soil was of one type. But the image on the laptop was not moving or would not change position. My companions got tired of digging but we preserved the hole by covering its opening.

The OKM 4000 is quite effective providing the operator is fully conversant with the operations and interfaces. and as stated prior I am not, but my friend who is the owner of the said OKM could do amazing things with it. so really its a case of knowing the machine and its workings. Its like starting to use a computer for the first time.....and you will get really good results no matter what people here say. (Most do not even own a OKM for that matter).

 and like most good MD you can tune out items and or soils to give a clearer result. Hope this helps a little..?


Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 10, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
You are right there sir Janner. The OKM is very expensive and is beyond the financial capability of most. We hope we would be lucky enough to find even the smallest giveaway so we could acquire one, ha ha! Thanks for the reply, sir.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 12, 2011, 09:43:30 AM
Hello Sir Administrator. Mr. Northstar happened to recommend to me to try “Treasure Hiding Style No. 30”. From what I gather there are 105 Treasure Hiding Styles all in all. For the benefit of us members, could you post  all the 105 Treasure Hiding Styles which we know you have in your keeping as that would surely be of such immense help to every treasure hunter around? That is, if it is not asking too much? Thank you very much sir!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 12, 2011, 10:01:17 AM
Hello Sir Administrator. Mr. Northstar happened to recommend to me to try “Treasure Hiding Style No. 30”. From what I gather there are 105 Treasure Hiding Styles all in all. For the benefit of us members, could you post  all the 105 Treasure Hiding Styles which we know you have in your keeping as that would surely be of such immense help to every treasure hunter around? That is, if it is not asking too much? Thank you very much sir!

never heard of such a thing, and i believe none of the other serious members have either.
If Prof NS recommended it, why didnt he post it..???? 

Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: ghost on October 12, 2011, 11:47:42 AM
That Treasure Hiding Styles are not from Northstar but from somebody. I could only knew 2 or 3 in here has that kind of compilation and very effective. Hope someday I meet them personally for a copy.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 12, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
Sir Janner, Mr. Northstar posted it in the first page of this forum. But it has been stamped with the name of Gener on it if I am not mistaken. Now I believe that was No. 30 of 105 such hiding styles. There must be others compiled around.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 12, 2011, 12:25:48 PM
Sir Janner, Mr. Northstar posted it in the first page of this forum. But it has been stamped with the name of Gener on it if I am not mistaken. Now I believe that was No. 30 of 105 such hiding styles. There must be others compiled around.

From what i can gather, that was a map posted by Gener and Not Prof NS. It is NOT NS property but Gener's.
and it is not, as i understand it, a "Hiding Place" but a system on how to read maps..(no doubt Gener will correct me if i am wrong)
Gener is the only person to have the complete compilation of these maps(?)

so you are being led astray i am afraid....
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 12, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
As far as Bro NS is concern,that is his own property, posting?I think never,if you think it can be helpful to your site, then PM him to ask a copy if you have luck enough then you can get a copy just like Bro Vourvon did.Just my thought...
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 12, 2011, 03:06:43 PM
the only person you will get copies from is Gener, and no one else. As for NS' s Property, i think the owner will have something to say about that theft!!
(and if you look on this site you will find quite a few more that "Gener" posted here....)

but if you want to be party to false claims..go ahead...join his gang and be named as such !!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 12, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
the only person you will get copies from is Gener, and no one else. As for NS' s Property, i think the owner will have something to say about that theft!!
(and if you look on this site you will find quite a few more that "Gener" posted here....)

but if you want to be party to false claims..go ahead...join his gang and be named as such !!


I see,now I understand...I have my own party I never had any other group even to join anyone,I am here to get only info for my own site.If they think their theory or method was right go ahead,arguing?never...everyone here I think has its own ideas and method of approach in YT,just like me I have my own but I dont rely it 100%thats why I ma here...
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 12, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
just be careful that you do not get tarred with the same brush as those who's false claims are posted here.
As then your credibility will also go down.

keep your distance and believe nothing unless its from a known reliable source or it has been confirmed.
just a piece of gentle advice for you to play with.... ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 12, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
Thanks Janner
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: admin on October 12, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
Glad we got that straightened out because I've never heard of any secret 105 Treasure Hiding Styles. If you get those please share with the rest of us here.
Thanks,
TW
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 13, 2011, 08:42:49 AM
Hello Sir Administrator. Thank you for the advice. Perhaps you are in a more comfortable position to ask Sir Gener for the rest of his "Treasure Hiding Styles" if he has that in his keeping? Ha ha. Thank you. ::)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 13, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
Hello Sir Administrator. Thank you for the advice. Perhaps you are in a more comfortable position to ask Sir Gener for the rest of his "Treasure Hiding Styles" if he has that in his keeping? Ha ha. Thank you. ::)

I repeat, "It is NOT Treasure Hiding Styles" !!


and Mr Gener said he would post more in his own time and convenience....so be patient !!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: bovic32 on October 13, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
Janner,
 Thanks for updating us here,it can help us here a much in our site
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
You are right there sir Janner. The OKM is very expensive and is beyond the financial capability of most. We hope we would be lucky enough to find even the smallest giveaway so we could acquire one, ha ha! Thanks for the reply, sir.

Bro Myres.

Hope  you are doing great out there.
If you believe in  DOWSING  , then it  would  be of  great help  in  your  site.  No  question about your site because it' s  positive (100%). Just an Advice give  more priority  in the Theory  of  Concealment  and   Camouflage  to  avoid  hitting the empty  hole.  Not  all holes  with  vital markers are positive.It's  a 50-50  ratio. Maybe  you hit the right target  or  maybe you hit the  Decoy. It's a Camouflage  my friend.  Look for the Cure.

God Bless  Bro.

GE
 ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
You are right there sir Janner. The OKM is very expensive and is beyond the financial capability of most. We hope we would be lucky enough to find even the smallest giveaway so we could acquire one, ha ha! Thanks for the reply, sir.

Bro Myres.

Hope  you are doing great out there.
If you believe in  DOWSING  , then it  would  be of  great help  in  your  site.  No  question about your site because it' s  positive (100%). Just an Advice give  more priority  in the Theory  of  Concealment  and   Camouflage  to  avoid  hitting the empty  hole.  Not  all holes  with  vital markers are positive.It's  a 50-50  ratio. Maybe  you hit the right target  or  maybe you hit the  Decoy. It's a Camouflage  my friend.  Look for the Cure.

God Bless  Bro.

GE
 ;)

well I am going to say it... just what are you on about????

"Cure"...what Cure..??
"Theory of Cam and Conc"..?........Explain more or even define it...!
How do you know the site is 100% positive..?? you have been there? or have Inside knowledge..?  "Explain" how you are able to state that..
so a few questions for you to answer, and i am sure there will be more ...!!!!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 02:21:26 PM
just be careful that you do not get tarred with the same brush as those who's false claims are posted here.
As then your credibility will also go down.

keep your distance and believe nothing unless its from a known reliable source or it has been confirmed.
just a piece of gentle advice for you to play with.... ;)

Good  Day Bro Myres,

Bro Janner is right,  Please carefully  evaluate which   theory  is correct , credible  and with proof.  Before associating  with  a certain group  of people or  any individuals  please  scrutinize things or that specific  person not just once or twice but many times.  You might end up  dealing with Decoy  Homosapien.  Just a friendly  advice.


God Bless,

GE
 ;D
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 02:36:26 PM


well I am going to say it... just what are you on about????

"Cure"...what Cure..??
"Theory of Cam and Conc"..?........Explain more or even define it...!
How do you know the site is 100% positive..?? you have been there? or have Inside knowledge..?  "Explain" how you are able to state that..
so a few questions for you to answer, and i am sure there will be more ...!!!!
[/quote]

Good day Bro.
I know  we have different  approach  in evaluating  the site. I am not an expert...  but I have my unique  and simple  technique. I am into Dowsing,  but  I  am not that better  compare  to some of  us here. There are better  Dowsers here.. But I am not the right person  to reveal who they are.  But they are great.. and I even admire them a lot.And they are my inspiration.Bout that Dowsers,  Maybe  you know  some of them. I will give the floor to the better  dowsers  and let them  explain  and  tackle  more about Paranormal  technique  in  exploring a particular spot or Area.


GOD BLESS  US ALL

GE,
 ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 02:45:13 PM


well I am going to say it... just what are you on about????

"Cure"...what Cure..??
"Theory of Cam and Conc"..?........Explain more or even define it...!
How do you know the site is 100% positive..?? you have been there? or have Inside knowledge..?  "Explain" how you are able to state that..
so a few questions for you to answer, and i am sure there will be more ...!!!!

Good day Bro.
I know  we have different  approach  in evaluating  the site. I am not an expert...  but I have my unique  and simple  technique. I am into Dowsing,  but  I  am not that better  compare  to some of  us here. There are better  Dowsers here.. But I am not the right person  to reveal who they are.  But they are great.. and I even admire them a lot.And they are my inspiration.Bout that Dowsers,  Maybe  you know  some of them. I will give the floor to the better  dowsers  and let them  explain  and  tackle  more about Paranormal  technique  in  exploring a particular spot or Area.


GOD BLESS  US ALL

GE,
 ;)
[/quote]


What...?????
Look Gerald you posted it so you explain it also.....!!!
 There was questions that i put there but you didnt even attempt to answer one of them, instead you try to push me over to someone else...

And yes i do know them, they are long time friends of mine. But, the questions were for "You" !! not them.....
so stop talking in riddles and say what you mean clear and simple so we can understand. !!

If you wish to keep "Giving the Floor" to someone else, whats the point in You posting anything...??

so.......getting back to a more gentler vein....answer the questions please..thankyou.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 02:54:10 PM


Others may believe  it  or not.  Some old hunters  even believe  it.
The so Called COnceal/Camouflage or  Decoys  is  often define as  A spot or  hole  which is  dug and excavated before, with vital signs/marker or even ground layers but no valuable  items  were  buried. I have  encountered  the so called Decoy in one of  my sites  before.  We dug up to  12 feet deep.We even  encounter poison..  and some  signs  like snake  stone,  a stone  with painted  red in  its  side , stone file and yellow soil  but when we reach  in the 12 feet   deep we encounter the  so called  Black Sand... when we  unearthed  all the black sand layer... then detect  the spot  again  with  German Stick  and other Electronic  gadget  then no more signal.. no more  magnetism  and the layer  after that black sand is normal again.  This is how  we evaluated this  hole, a Decoy Spot.


God Bless,


GE
 ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 03:03:04 PM
Then after reading that, i would suggest that you do not do enough research into your project, but instead dig ad lib, even on other so called holes..
prior to any sort of research...

Now you know the difference between "Old Hunters" and new ones.....

perhaps you should take a look at the thread CSI in this forum....might even help you a little..?

regards...

Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 03:14:41 PM



What...?????
Look Gerald you posted it so you explain it also.....!!!
 There was questions that i put there but you didnt even attempt to answer one of them, instead you try to push me over to someone else...

And yes i do know them, they are long time friends of mine. But, the questions were for "You" !! not them.....
so stop talking in riddles and say what you mean clear and simple so we can understand. !!

If you wish to keep "Giving the Floor" to someone else, whats the point in You posting anything...??

so.......getting back to a more gentler vein....answer the questions please..thankyou.
[/quote]

Ok Bro Janner,

I have already answer what's  Decoy. And that's  the way I look and  evaluate the so Called Decoy.
In Dowsing  there are some things to be considered. The So called Silence and Serenity. It's   an S.O.P.  or the so called  CREED  of a DOWSERS  not to advertise themselves, but  just let other people  knew  that  you or they are a Dowser.

There are language  in Dowsing  that only  fellow  dowsers will  understand  or even believe  on that. Bout Dowsing,  Do you believe in the  Power of the mind? Do you believe that by just  thinking  or speaking  only  in your  mind  you can   do something. Like for  example  you are  holding  and L-Rods  and silently  tell your Rods to move  to a   particular  direction then   it moves.  Other Dowsers  also  do the so called  Dowsing/Investigating  something  by  a Yes or  no  Question.  Like for  example  Ask your  Rods   this kind of  question: Is this the West Direction... when it's  really  west  the the rods crosses  and if  it's  a no  then it will not  move.   Some  Dowsers apply  their  Dowsing ability  in treasure hunting.  Some  can determine  the exact spot  or  target.. and  some  could  even determine  the deepness  of the target. Other  people  might be saying  this things  are  impossible..  and  is  not existing even in their wildest  dream  but it really  exist.   In my case.. I am  just in my Infancy stage  in Dowsing.


God Bless,

GE
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
Then after reading that, i would suggest that you do not do enough research into your project, but instead dig ad lib, even on other so called holes..
prior to any sort of research...

Now you know the difference between "Old Hunters" and new ones.....

perhaps you should take a look at the thread CSI in this forum....might even help you a little..?

regards...


Yup  Bro...I do agree with that CSI  Thing.
Like in our  case, Before we start digging a particular  spot , investigate also  some  oldies  about   the history  of the site.  Not just  one  oldies.. ask for  2-3  oldies  if they are still available.  If you have the  Map then much better. And also  I consider the landmarks  like very Old Trees  and Old Well.  My favorite  is  Old Tree  and Old Well
Landmarks.  Then  Do the Dowsing, Compass  Reading, and  detect  the  area  with  Dowsing Tools and Other  Electronic  Gadgets, If there's  a  scanner then that would be better.


GE
 :)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 03:32:44 PM


Good day Bro Janner,

Assuming we haven't consider the CSI  because  we have no starting point  to consider like;  NO testimony of  Oldies, No maps, No landmarks(Trees, well or whatever),  But if  it is Positive in Dowsing  then we will still dig the spot.  We will dig/play it  by heart and by  faith. Intuition  never lie.

God Bless us all,

GE
 ;)

Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 03:47:00 PM


Good day Bro Janner,

Assuming we haven't consider the CSI  because we have no starting point  to consider like;  NO testimony of  Oldies, No maps, No landmarks(Trees, well or whatever),  But if  it is Positive in Dowsing  then we will still dig the spot.  We will dig/play it  by heart and by  faith. Intuition  never lie.

God Bless us all,

GE
 ;)[\quote]

Ok, but what was it that said to you, this is a good spot to dowse..?  being as you have no clues to where you are ..??

and looking at your positive statements to others, what has your projects given to you. anything... or nothing..??
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 04:05:09 PM


I will just  consider the recovery  in which  I am actually present  on the site,  and It's only one time.
And it's a combined  force or group. A Hunter from Cebu with scanner, A British Dowser from my Friend, My Mentors Here , and  that Lady T-H from Mindanao. There is  really  an actual recovery  and it's  only  4AU no  more no less.  The Cemented Box were  not further recovered  because the  spot  slowly  collapse.  The area  is somewhere in Negros Sur.  But the sad  thing,  we have no fair share. Lahat kami(The Combined Force). As what I am Always stating The Spirit of Greediness  possessed the body  of The Daughter/Financier of the Site Owner.

Second is somewhere  in Bukidnon.  Although I didn't see the actual recovery.  But my associate  Lady T-H( Madam L)  knows  that the Bukidnon group  recovered  12 Au Bars. Madam L is  gifted also with 3rd/4th eye.. She even knew the actual day and hour of recovery, and the no. of pcs.,   even though  she is not present  in the site.  Sound so  impossible. That's  why  I didn't want to  post it here.. but for your info then i am posting here now.. and that's the truth bro.


God Bless,

GE :)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 04:15:43 PM
so with all the various..Madam L is  gifted also with 3rd/4th eye..Brit Dowser, Cebu Scanner, etc etc... you have nothing to show for your endeavors.
Sounds like something is wrong here  Gerald, dont you think..??

4 bars here and 12 bars there...wow thats a lot of cash somewhere if one was to believe that....(basic price 12 million)

so...now what are you going to do? team up with the same people again..???
and lose out, ....or.......??

Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 04:16:11 PM
Ok, but what was it that said to you, this is a good spot to dowse..?  being as you have no clues to where you are ..??


[/quote]
In my case.. I will just ask.... Is the  Spot Positive  of  J.B.T?  If it crosses, then there's  a valuable  items  buried  on the spot.  Those  Dowsers  which were already in the higher  level of Dowsing  can perform the so called  Remote Map Dowsing. By just looking  at the sketch, pic, Google Map or whatever,  they can  perfectly  pinpoint  the exact spot  no matter how  far  the actual area is.


I have tried Map Dowsing  before,  one time...  But it end up  that my spot is  just  3 feet  away from the exact target.

Map Dowsing is no joke.. only  the  More gifted  Dowsers  can perform  this  accurately.

In my case  if I am in the actual   site  I can also  find the exact  spot. Unlike in Distant Dowsing...which is  too difficult to perfect  the center  of the target.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 04:29:41 PM

Bro Janner,

I have already learned  from my previous  experienced.
No problem with my associates in Dowsing or  Madam, The problem here  is the owner of the sites.

That's  why we are now  choosy  in associating  or dealing  with  site owners.
That's why  before you ever  enter  or dig a particular  spot, you must  consider the following  things:

Ask your  Rods  this  questions enumerated below:

1) Is the Site Worthy to be dowsed?
2) Can We put our trust  on the guys involved (Digger, financier, owner of the site)?
3) If there might be recovery  soon, will the group or the owner will not  change? Or Can we still put  our trust to all the people involved  like  diggers, financiers, owner of the site  if they is already recovery  in the site?

If approved by the Rods, or if the Rod Crosses  then  GO to  the Project. And this is our  S.O.P.  right now  bro.
As what  my Mentors  told me, Denying Assistance to the UNWORTHY  will prevent your  heartache in the future.

In fact... I have my new site right now  who have pass   the 3 questions.

God Bless  Fellas,

GE

Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 15, 2011, 04:31:03 PM
Ok, but what was it that said to you, this is a good spot to dowse..?  being as you have no clues to where you are ..??


In my case.. I will just ask.... Is the  Spot Positive  of  J.B.T?  If it crosses, then there's  a valuable  items  buried  on the spot.  Those  Dowsers  which were already in the higher  level of Dowsing  can perform the so called  Remote Map Dowsing. By just looking  at the sketch, pic, Google Map or whatever,  they can  perfectly  pinpoint  the exact spot  no matter how  far  the actual area is.


I have tried Map Dowsing  before,  one time...  But it end up  that my spot is  just  3 feet  away from the exact target.

Map Dowsing is no joke.. only  the  More gifted  Dowsers  can perform  this  accurately.

In my case  if I am in the actual   site  I can also  find the exact  spot. Unlike in Distant Dowsing...which is  too difficult to perfect  the center  of the target.
[/quote]


Good...so you dont need all those other people who scammed before...!!
Go out and do your thing, dont tell anyone and enjoy the fun of it. maybe you will come home one day with a pocket full of dreams..??

enjoy.....
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: gerald on October 15, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Good...so you dont need all those other people who scammed before...!!
Go out and do your thing, dont tell anyone and enjoy the fun of it. maybe you will come home one day with a pocket full of dreams..??

enjoy.....
[/quote]

OK bro.
As what Other Dowsers  said:  For them, it is easier to pinpoint the exact spot  or even the decoy spot  but it's  hard for them to find the real guy(Worthy Owners).  Of course  not  all, coz  there are still  worthy few. That's  why  choose the person you want to  associate or deal with.

The sun is still shining behind those dark  clouds... someday  maybe sooner  we can still hit the target with a corresponding price or fair share.

Long Live T-Hunters.


GE
 ;D
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: gerald
Good day Bro.
Hope  you are doing  great.

Just a  friendly advice. IF you believe  in Dowsing then  it is easier  for you  to  hit the  target either big or small.  There are  Good  Samaritan Dowsers here  who are willing to  help  you. In fact they are  monitoring  your  post. And your site is very positive bro.

If you want that  your site will be recovered correctly and easily  ,   choose  the right  guy  to  be associated  with.

If you want that your  site will be carefully  check  thru Map Dowsing  you can ask  Assistance to  T-H44 and  DB. They are the right  person.

God Bless  Bro.
And  Good Luck in Your  T-hunting  Activity.


YH GE

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Hello Bro. Gerald. How are you? Thank you for the advice and your interest in our site. I really think dowsing by the gifted person would spell the difference of success and failure here. Yes, Bro. Dindo helps in our site and I hope T-H44 would do the same.
We are currently on a new hole after having it analyzed by Bro. Northstar with his isometrics and lately I have learned a lot from him. In fact I have already marked all the potential sites within the area.

Thanks again and keep in touch. I appreciate the encouragement after all these long months of anxiety.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 10:25:28 AM
Hello guys. Here are some finds over the week at our sites. The stone was dug under the mango tree at about 10 feet, where the grenade was found. It is rather big and can be carried maybe by three strong guys in an open space.
The green, thick, square, broken glass was found about 20 feet from our present dig as determined by Bro. Northstar with his isometrics. It was found along a slope which had stones piled, just under a bamboo (bayog) growth, straight west of our dig.
I hope to hear some feedback about these. Thanks guys!
I don't know why it can't be posted. Am trying again. Maybe there are many pictures attached.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Southern TH on October 17, 2011, 10:47:45 AM
I think that's not an ordinary stone.. Try to break it and check what is in the inner or that rock.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 12:24:48 PM
Hello there Southern TH. Is that so? We never thought of breaking it but I will as soon as I get back to the site. Thanks.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 17, 2011, 01:37:34 PM
and if you break the rock, whatever markings there are on it will be destroyed forever....
think prior to demolition....... ;)

regards
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 01:48:43 PM
Yes sir Janner. Perhaps I should take a thorough picture from all sides again before we break it. Thanks!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: NORTHSTAR on October 17, 2011, 02:02:09 PM
Yes sir Janner. Perhaps I should take a thorough picture from all sides again before we break it. Thanks!

Bro Myres

That site you dig under mango tree 1 is the reversed of T5 and T6. That site is 11 ft site. Maybe the stone you recovered is the target. After taking photos, then break it..

Good luck bro

Northstar
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 17, 2011, 02:29:16 PM
Yes sir Janner. Perhaps I should take a thorough picture from all sides again before we break it. Thanks!

why dont you see if there is a similar sized rock nearby, weigh one against the other, is yours heavier or lighter.?
If its notably lighter,,...could be hollow..?
    "      "       heavier..something inside..?

dont just break rocks because someone says so...investigate first with logic and a little imagination too works....

my own opinion, and i am not there, is that its just a rock,,,nothing inside...but.....prove me wrong.. ;)
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: NORTHSTAR on October 17, 2011, 02:58:01 PM
why dont you see if there is a similar sized rock nearby, weigh one against the other, is yours heavier or lighter.?
If its notably lighter,,...could be hollow..?
    "      "       heavier..something inside..?


Ha????? So you are going to bring weighing scale in the area to weigh those big rocks. Hahahahaaaaa. very very funny ideas... who are you fooling here... I was surprised that you stop someone to break the stone. I smell something fishy... I will find out soon

Just break it bro myres
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 17, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
Well Mr Myres, you follow what Prof NS tells you, never mind what other people or members say, after all. Prof NS is the boss and expert here...

and if course if you have time, care to show the rest of the members just what you did find under the guidance of Prof NS....?

Thats if you dont mind...??


regards..
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 06:13:11 PM
Messrs, peace. Let's not get agitated over this. I am of the mind that I should text them over there to break it. However, on second thought it seems more logical to be there personally as I should really carefully take pictures of it from all angles before subjecting it to the hammer. I have never heard of some treasure being recovered from the inside of a stone in the area but there was one instance of a bar of gold recovered from a tree. It was sandwiched inside and discovered when a wood cutter using a chain saw was puzzled when yellow specks were being mixed with the sawdust. Well, who knows, there is always a first time and we could get lucky. Ha ha!
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Janner on October 17, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
No agitation here Mr Myers, i just want you to succeed in your venture,


Regards
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 17, 2011, 10:59:17 PM
Thanks for the concern, Sir Janner. I do hope we get to reap the fruit of our efforts soon. Regards too.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: t_hunter44 on October 18, 2011, 05:14:11 AM
and if you break the rock, whatever markings there are on it will be destroyed forever....
think prior to demolition....... ;)

regards
      Destroying that Rock Marker is a big mistake and sure, one can take pictures of it but it will not be the same as the original marker and once destroyed, you cannot put it back together. Scan that rock if you suspect there is something in it.  NS says break it, who are we to say otherwise.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 18, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Point taken, Sir T-Hunter44. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: BOOBY TRAP OVER SITE?
Post by: Myres on October 23, 2011, 07:43:02 AM
Guys, here is the new marker on a stone discovered 3 days ago about 30 feet south of our current hole.
What are your thoughts? Do text me at 0920-5373930 as internet connection here is slow and scarce.
Thanks.