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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => Treasure Marks, Signs and Symbols of the Yamashita Treasure => Topic started by: jewellcat on April 06, 2019, 02:40:37 AM

Title: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 06, 2019, 02:40:37 AM
Dear Fellow TH's

I would like to ask about your opinion to please help me understand the meaning of the sign on the photos. We are at 62 feet now. Your input is highly appreciated. Thank you
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 09, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Looks like you are digging a large load at the depth more than 60 yards. How did you start, why did you dug in that spot?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 09, 2019, 06:45:26 AM
Dear Fom1113,

Thank you for reply.

The project is actually at my friend's house backyard. Around 10 years ago he met an old Japanese man with a Third Eye. He mentioned to this old man about their property his father used to tell him when he was a child that there is treasure buried under a huge Sampaloc Tree behind their house. The Old Japanese man visited their house and after checking the place he said he saw 3 spirits he talk to them in Japanese language and he said they point to him where are the treasures which are located in 3 different spots within their property. (Moreover, he have a neighbor who accidentally found 5 bars of gold at a shallow depth while digging a septic tank who immediately transfer to another place after giving him some amount).  But that time he got no interest to dig it. Then more than a year back he met a treasure hunter which made him become interested in digging their backyard. But first he hired a Professional to scan the place to know exactly where to start. Right now there are only 2 trusted person  doing this because he is afraid for their safety and also not to attract attention from the neighbors.

So far they are now in 62 feet depth. After they found these sign and removing all the sand layer they found a very hard cement. Maybe these signs will help us identify whats the next step.

Your advice is very much appreciated.





Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 12:54:58 AM
Almost accurately guessed of the depth, the spot you are presently digging is far more deeper than the smaller one. At 62 feet and still nothing i think you are at the spot of large load. You may eventually stop digging after reaching strong the water level. Strong spring water that financier may deplete their pocket for supporting monthly electric bill . Very interesting site though.

Why not try the load buried in between 35 to 50 feet? I strongly believe that small target load is not far away from your present dig spot. If you can drift 5 to 7 meters at gray layer then it is a big possibility of success. But before doing that suggestion try experimenting a downward dig to that hard concrete layer. If you found top soil below that gray layer then it is the time for you to try looking for the smaller load.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 01:19:00 AM
Although i do not recommend tunneling to target deposit but at your present situation you may end up abandoning and tunneling from that dig spot specially at present finding, hard concrete layer, if you found nothing in that hard level then my idea is the best option. Tunnel to smaller load but dangerous or abandon the present dig spot and start a fresh dig it hurts but safe.

I do recommend hire a guide to remap the area and can explain to you the proper approach to target. Take note that every buried deposits by japs has a masterplan and all are in accordance to compass bearing alignment to given surface markers.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 14, 2019, 01:58:33 AM
Dear Fom1113

Thank you for the input. Do you any idea what are meaning of the signs on the cement i posted above ?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 04:37:19 AM
I am not a decoder and not expert to read any signs. Maybe just a signal to digger to tell them that someone has created it and left it there. Surface signs are much more easier to understand, more often they are logical.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 04:51:28 AM
I made a guess to that sign because treasure hunters in some thread are commonly digging deep big loads. Maybe unintentional as most of them ends up in failure due to extreme depth. Soil coloration and signal signs are same as yours.

My experience is not the same, i am a small depo hunter. Loads inbetween 10 to 15 meters depth or 3 to 9mtrs depth. The first ops although it was a failure due to landslide (bar down) but i got all the info about anything we found underneath.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 14, 2019, 05:02:18 AM
Thank you for valuable info. May i ask where are you located incase we may decide to seek your professional help for dowsing?

For other TH, any valuable input regarding the above photos are very much welcome.

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 05:12:32 AM
I am in luzon area, manila particularly. Btw i am not solely relying on dowsing. Analyzing, reading surface signs, understanding topography, locating area of small deposit then doing a confirmation tru dowsing or locator. That is a most appropriate approach as far as i know.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 05:27:21 AM
If you are in visayas or mindanao you may look for other expert around your area to avoid expensive travel allowances that you are going to ptovide.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 14, 2019, 05:28:50 AM
It means the location is not a problem then. The project is only in Rizal.

I will keep you updated...

Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 06:43:52 AM
I suggest some details in our communication should be done in personal message.

Thanks
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 14, 2019, 07:02:27 AM
Noted. I will send you a PM incase.

For now we will finish these hard concrete layer and check what we will find next. Then we will decide.

And I kindly request for other TH's in this group to post your ideas regarding the photos i posted above.

Thank you very much Sir Fom1113 for all your input. Very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 14, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
Good day Jewellcat,

 Here are some of the reliable soil, organic materials findings before reaching a vault. Just a confirmation to be sure that the concrete beneath those layers is loaded. Althogh these findings were docummented by me in a small deposit load but i believe the japanese did the same backfill engineering even in those larger loads since in some thread postings of some th suggests that layers of the same style are replicated sometimes 2X down to the other load that means they missed 1 deposit on the way to the 2nd level.

1.) Branches of wood
2.) round marble size rocks scattered
3.) fossilized leaves mixed in anykind of backfill
4.) thick white paste/mud
5.) patches of black tar/asphalt mixed backfill
6.) flat concrete sometimes metal plates
7.) dark brown mud/soil
8.) bright yellow or orange colored mud mixed inserted inside the dark brown soil
9.) multiple appearances of small springwater
10.) gravel and sand
11.) poison but not so deadly if your dig hole is equiped with ventilator
12.) vault

Those listed here are standard although in some areas colorations are slightly different and some few elements are missing but the sequence is almost the same.

Good luck
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 15, 2019, 08:05:55 AM
Dear Fom1113,

Thank you for the detailed list. From my observation they already encounter all those till number 11. Some of them are found two times. They are now digging the hard gray concrete but along with it is a black color cement.

I attached photos for reference.

Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on April 15, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Layer of soil and loose sand are signal soil then gravel is the last before vault. After that dark gray layer you should encounter those 3 layers if a vault is embedded in that dark gray layer. 23 meters is your target depth, if you found nothing in that depth level try adding 2 more meters and observe any changes.

As i read in some thread, lot of hunters believe that japs buried those gold bars as simple as they think. I am always telling everyone asking to never underestimate it because they thought if a gadget is in your hand means sure success. Maybe true if a GA is around but what if there is no GiveAways? Even the most hightech gadgets nowadays were fooled by the burial engineering design used by japanese more than 70 years ago. I believe they used science of physics, mining and geology to let those gold be like a natural mineralisation in the eye of electronic devices. Even satellite scanning was fooled by that enginuity in a project few years ago that ended in a tragic death of 3 financiers who lost properties tru financing. They died tru heart failure consecutively. So dont jump into conclusion by just looking into the screen of a device with you. Do the surface sign reading and surface analisation then combine the result of gadgets you have and must include a locator or dowsing. Compass bearing tru sign formation must be your priority that is why surveying a site is not simple. There must be a question and answer regarding dead trees around and protruding rocks. If no one can answer the question means positive result is slim. IMHO and experience.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on April 16, 2019, 03:31:01 AM
Thank you Sir Fom1113 for the advice and for sharing your experience. My friend is planning up to maximum of 85 feet depth if still there is nothing found he will go for the 2nd option. Still we are in the dark gray layer. I will keep you updated for any development.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on May 10, 2019, 02:53:54 AM
Good Day To All,
I would like to give a small development regarding our project. They are unable to work continuously due to holidays and because of many small issues they encounter. Recently it become obvious that few times a week something will come up that cause delay like the water pump is not working again, the switch is not turning on, the remote of floater is not working and many small things that stops the digger from working. It's happening before but not so often like now. Its as if someone are intentionally doing it for them to stop working. Finally, yesterday they are able to dig again but still they are in the dark gray hard layer. After few feet of digging (approx less than 65ft now) they try to check using a not so high quality metal detector and it give positive sound on gold. They test 4 times and gives the same result...
"Does this mean we are on the right spot and we are near the target?"

Your input are highly welcome!
Thank you.

Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 10, 2019, 05:27:01 AM
I assume that detector is VLF. If your gadget is a single small coil detector i am not sure of the result because small coil vlf detectors are sensitive to mineralisation. Hot rocks are usually being detected by vlf machines so clever ground balancing should be applied first. Better prove it by digg]ng down to that direction. It eventually fades and disappear if you dig down and no AU metal down there but if the signal strenght increases then you may problaly hitting the real one.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: admin on May 10, 2019, 09:04:27 PM
I agree and this is excellent advice! ;)
TW

I assume that detector is VLF. If your gadget is a single small coil detector i am not sure of the result because small coil vlf detectors are sensitive to mineralisation. Hot rocks are usually being detected by vlf machines so clever ground balancing should be applied first. Better prove it by digg]ng down to that direction. It eventually fades and disappear if you dig down and no AU metal down there but if the signal strenght increases then you may problaly hitting the real one.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 10, 2019, 10:12:18 PM
Thanks admin, almost entirely my advises are based on my experiences.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on May 11, 2019, 12:16:18 PM
Thank you Sir Fom1113 for the advice we will surely do that and keep you updated for any development. For now as they dug deeper the frequency lessen. Does it mean we're getting closer?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 12, 2019, 01:29:09 AM
I'm not sure.  Try dig deeper until the detection disappears and examine what type of backfill in that level where there's no more detection.

Please read carefully this relevant topic that all of us should take seriously. According to experienced detectorists if you bury a 2 inches diameter gold coin and do the detection after lets say 70 days, that coin can be detected as a 2 inches diameter gold coin and if that coin was buried at 10 inches depth that detector reading will give you an accurate depth reading of 10 inches. If you bury a 2 inches diameter gold coin today then do the detection of the coin after 70 years then the coin detection would appear in the screen as a 4 inches or maybe 6 inches diameter coin. In this case those detectors may produce an erroneous reading in depth since allmost all portable detectors are designed to read coins of small size. The detection of a coin buried in a 70 days span maybe accurately read unlike those buried for 70 years. It is just a coin but lets say if a stack of gold bars with 2.5 feet X 2 5 feet dimension may probably produce enormous false detection and wrong depth reading to plenty of gadgets. This may appear as a shallow small piece of gold to some detectors. The possibility of hitting the side part of the real target may give you a strong signal although your target is few feet away from your dig spot. Keeping in mind this simplified science of electromagnetism is crucial to quick recovery.

What more if your deep seeking gadget targeted a big volume of load at the level of 120 feet? Depth detection and pinpointing the exact spot of digging is surely inaccurate IMHO.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on May 21, 2019, 09:59:48 AM
I have a question...maybe you have the same experience? what's the possibility for a water pump to broke or malfunction. It was bought brand new few months ago, well taken care of but did not work many times and brought to technician to fix many times as well. In the past week it was  broken again and fix and after 2 days broken again. The technician said 1st time they encounter like that and they are baffled how that kind of motor failure happened. At this point the diggers are supposedly just 2 days away from the set target point according to frequency. But they are force to stop again and wait till the water pump is fix...

Is what's happening have anything to do with the spirits in the place or just really normal electrical malfunction?

(Every Tuesday and Friday we give offering and light candles for the spirits according to advice)

Kindly share your idea and experience !
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 22, 2019, 07:31:38 AM
What's the brand name of the pump? Some of the Made in China or Taiwan pumps can be problematic, in my experience. Of course its difficult to say certainly yes or no a spirit or spirits is trying to interfere with your operation. It could also be that the Master of all spirits is delaying it because the timing is not quite right for everyone involved. If anyone there loves God, I believe He will make sure you are successful in perfect time, given how profoundly such a success will impact your lives and the lives of those around you. In my experience, I suppose it will depend on who you're placing your faith in. I know it is an old tradition here in the Philippines to try and appease the spirits of dead people in such cases. But again I humbly say in my own experience, that is not the right path. By attempting to please "the spirits" you are placing your faith in those spirits and thereby granting them too much power over your operation. The problem with that is some of those spirits could very well be evil and will never want you to reach the object no matter what you do to satisfy them. I recommend placing your faith in God and praying for Him to grant your group success. Just my humble advice.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 22, 2019, 08:06:08 AM
Almost accurately guessed of the depth, the spot you are presently digging is far more deeper than the smaller one. At 62 feet and still nothing i think you are at the spot of large load. You may eventually stop digging after reaching strong the water level. Strong spring water that financier may deplete their pocket for supporting monthly electric bill . Very interesting site though.

Why not try the load buried in between 35 to 50 feet? I strongly believe that small target load is not far away from your present dig spot. If you can drift 5 to 7 meters at gray layer then it is a big possibility of success. But before doing that suggestion try experimenting a downward dig to that hard concrete layer. If you found top soil below that gray layer then it is the time for you to try looking for the smaller load.

Fom1113, you post great information here. Sometimes it comes at the perfect time for me so I just want to say that your willingness to share it us is very much appreciated. I had a question for you. There's a site that I'd like to get your opinion on because some aspects of it surprised me after bringing in different types of equipment to confirm the target locations. I will attach the site layout. The spacing between objects isn't perfect but the sizes are correct. The smaller object was chosen as the first target, thinking it would not be buried as deeply as the other ones. But current depth over the smaller object has now reached 43 ft. What is strange is that we are getting a strong signal over the larger objects using a simple two-box VLF machine (White's TM 808). 100% intensity on the meter, if you're familiar with the unit. We were sort of left scratching our heads. On a 8 x 2 ft object, even if it was full of pure gold, its seems we should only be getting a signal if the object was buried less than around 15 ft deep. But why would the smaller object be buried so much deeper than such a larger one? Could it be because the smaller object also contains precious gemstones and is therefore more valuable? Have you or anyone else ever encountered a site where such a smaller object is buried so much deeper than the larger ones? Very good signs have came from over the smaller object. Hearts, diamonds, cubes, shoes, pointing hands etc... Definitely man-made markers.


Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 22, 2019, 08:53:54 AM
The answer to your questions rely on the recovery of the detected gold and you will be surprised of the result because it contradicts to some of your pmcurrent understanding of how those gold were buried.

I already discussed here about the simple principle of electromagnetics. A box of gold with a 3x3 feet size can be detected as 6x 6ft or maybe larger more after several decades under the soil.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 22, 2019, 09:01:28 AM
The answer to your questions rely on the recovery of the detected gold and you will be surprised of the result because it contradicts to some of your pmcurrent understanding of how those gold were buried.

I already discussed here about the simple principle of electromagnetics. A box of gold with a 3x3 feet size can be detected as 6x 6ft or maybe larger more after several decades under the soil.

Ah yes, but with a TM 808 two-box VLF machine you can really only get down to a maximum of 20 ft depth on very large objects. So let's say the larger objects are at that maximum 20 ft depth. That's still less than half the depth of the smaller object. So are you saying that its possible to receive a 100% intensity VLF signal from a 8 x 2 ft gold object buried several meters deep if it has been buried there since WW2? Even after that long it seems like it would be pushing it for a TM 808.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 22, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
Btw the signal is ONLY received over the 8 x 2 ft perimeter of the object. In other words, the signal is NOT actually larger than the object itself. Whatever the object is the White's TM 808 only detected it while directly over the perimeter of the actual object. So unless the expansion of the signal that happens over time only expands upwardly and not to the sides, it does not seem to be effecting the machines detection of the object.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: caped on May 23, 2019, 03:14:11 AM
Is the whites TM808 VLF or PI?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 23, 2019, 03:17:23 AM
Is the whites TM808 VLF or PI?

It is a VLF machine.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 23, 2019, 10:05:19 AM
If the treasure was buried at 35 feet then after 75 years ethe electromagnetic expands lets say 15 feet outward in all directions therefore that treasure's electromagnetic can be detected above at 20 feet deep. But there is a high possibility of being offset to your target. Just keep in mind if there was an unwanted electromagnetic detections below then there was a gold cache inserted somewhere else. Your problem is to how to accurately pinpoint the object.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 23, 2019, 02:36:09 PM
If the treasure was buried at 35 feet then after 75 years ethe electromagnetic expands lets say 15 feet outward in all directions therefore that treasure's electromagnetic can be detected above at 20 feet deep. But there is a high possibility of being offset to your target. Just keep in mind if there was an unwanted electromagnetic detections below then there was a gold cache inserted somewhere else. Your problem is to how to accurately pinpoint the object.

I feel pretty good about the target location because the smaller target was located using the same method (dowsing) and there have been so many perfect signs unearthed while digging to that target. At 43 ft there is this layer of large stones that you can really tell were placed there because they're interlocking. I say that because someone has chiseled out little indentations on the sides of the some of the stones so the other stones placed beside them can not be easily lifted out. You have to remove all the larger stones to be able to dislodge them. My feeling is the object is just below this layer... Take a look at the photo below, the target is marked. You can see its under the largest stone in the layer. That stone is perfectly flat on the exposed side of it.

I had thought that this smaller object had been buried deeper because it contains precious gemstones. The signs seem to indicate that it contains various types of precious stones. This was further verified using a frequency generator. Signal lines were created to the object using the frequencies I have for gold, diamond and emerald. While only the gold frequency created a line to the larger 8' object.

Question for you bro and btw I'm sorry for asking so many questions but your time is appreciated. At 12-14 ft depth I unearthed a perfect heart. It was laying face down. The measurements of the heart are roughly 6 x 7 inches. Nearby or within that same layer, which was very rich with markers, I found several arrow-like stones. Arrows and pointing hands. I have been wondering if this collection of stones was actually indicating that I should drift to the 8 ft object which is positioned 11 ft away. A treasure hunter once told me that the smaller the heart the closer I am to the object. So now that I'm already at 43 depth on this current target it seems that heart was actually for the other 8 ft object buried nearby. What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 23, 2019, 09:57:58 PM
Your dig hole is maybe at the spot of bigger load. The signs you found at 12 to 14 feet represents a smaller deposit but it is not at that level, instead at maybe 40 to 55 feet. If you dig past that level and still nothing means my explaination here is correct and your approaching to a load at 75 feet depth MOL.

Why those signs are in that deep? Maybe that area is mountainous i guess.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on May 25, 2019, 01:22:28 PM
Dear Tninja,

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts regarding my question about spirit guardians. Each and everyone here have different point of view regarding unseen entities depending on their experiences and beliefs. This is our first time in this adventure so we are really confuse when things happened out of ordinary but you really have a good point and i totally agree with what you’d said.

So far, we are at 70 feet depth and the layer is getting slightly soft now the signal is more strong and the frequency is very less. Hoping to reach the zero frequency very soon and see what’s next under the gray layer. But we need to wait for few days to continue digging again due to some equipment that is broken again.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 25, 2019, 09:35:38 PM
Dear Tninja,

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts regarding my question about spirit guardians. Each and everyone here have different point of view regarding unseen entities depending on their experiences and beliefs. This is our first time in this adventure so we are really confuse when things happened out of ordinary but you really have a good point and i totally agree with what you’d said.

So far, we are at 70 feet depth and the layer is getting slightly soft now the signal is more strong and the frequency is very less. Hoping to reach the zero frequency very soon and see what’s next under the gray layer. But we need to wait for few days to continue digging again due to some equipment that is broken again.

You're welcome. This is a long story so I won't go in to all of it, but one time my group hired a mananambal to come light some incense, slay a chicken and say his words over the site because the family kept insisting on doing it. Within days 2 family members had become possessed by a spirit that tried to make a deal with the brother for 10% if he killed everyone else. The father also had gotten drunk and lost his mind, destroying everything in the house at one point. The very healthy pig staying in a pin near the dig site, that was kept very clean, mysteriously died during the night etc etc... For me it was obvious what had invited all of those spirits there. But anyways, I hope you are successful there my friend. Stay safe
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on May 26, 2019, 12:06:36 AM
Just to update the crew here, posters and lurkers alike, I started digging to that 8 x 2 ft object positioned 11 ft away from my current dig hole... DID SOMEONE ORDER GUNPOWDER? I mean wtf is this strong gunpowder smell? I guess it could be something else, maybe some kind of decaying plant matter left behind. But after the first 1 ft the soil changed to this pure, dark grey clayish layer that I swear smells just like gunpowder. The smell is strong. I had to turn on a fan and have it face the dig hole just to be able to breathe comfortably. Has anyone ever experienced that before? Btw if any of the lurkers could step in and start contributing that'd be great.  ;)

And to top it all off... We noticed this huge brown moth landed on a stone right next to our dig site today. I mean this thing is BIG. One of the team said its a sign that money is coming? Can anyone back that up? THE FEVER IS BURNING BABY  ;D
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 26, 2019, 05:13:50 AM
Every positive sites have it, that smell of crude oil. Alao molasses was used, mixed to backfill the reason why butterflies and some other times flies and bees/wasps are flying around dig hole. Scientific and no mystery on it.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 26, 2019, 05:32:19 AM
Another thing that seems linked to supernatural is about pump problem but it is just a simple mistake of most hunters by attaching the rope at the top of the submersible pump creating stress to 4rods bolt and nuts that in a continous vibration the screws slowly losen.
Also your non stop usage losen the gasket that enabling the moisture to penetrate the core copper wind inside resulting to intermitent of shut down of pump motor and overheating. Sometimes electrocuting your diggers down the hole.

This was a solved problem from my project in laguna in 2009 where we reached the vault without any 2nd time repair of our pump. They followed my instruction to put a support rope at the bottom of sub pump. Pronlem solved. No mystery involved.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 26, 2019, 05:36:34 AM
Look at this, consider the green line as your rope. The upper portion of your pump (handle) should be a support only in order to maintain the pump in an upright position.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on May 27, 2019, 05:02:40 AM
Dear Sir Fom1113

Thank you for giving light on this issue about water pump. We will surely apply your suggestion. Hopefully not just to lessen the expenses but to expedite the work.

Regards
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on May 28, 2019, 07:34:34 PM
Good day jewellcat,

 No problem, i love sharing my experiences to others.
One last tip if you reached the mud or sand layer erroding then dig few meters more next is concrete then inside is a vault. It is dangerous tho and deadly, just add casing or support scaffoldings etc. Treasures buried here the Philippines are very much identical to  engineering of Oak Island treasures.
Goodluck to your venture.

fom1113
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on July 07, 2019, 07:13:37 AM
Hello Everyone,

Just a little update on our site...
The hard gray layer is finish.
After the hard gray is a mixture of muddy soil with stone and muddy soil with a mixture of cement with a green color. So far at 1 meter now
The signal of AU from their MD is very strong at this level..
They are now at 79 feet.

Regards
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on July 09, 2019, 03:27:50 AM
Muddy soil is 20 feet then hard layer again about 10 feet. If your digspot is at the top of the specific object lets say at 120 feet then your search is over. If not then those layers will appear again redundant. There is no guarantee that you are about to reach the object becauae burial design engineering is extremely complicated and can not be guessed its depth accuracy by not doing an actual survey of the area. At the mean time just achieve the previous target depth 85 feet then you must try other option.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on July 09, 2019, 03:37:15 AM
Metal detectors are most of the time fooled by electromagnetic force from the Au itself. Those magnetic fields were trapped at the muddy layers, being pushed by earth gravity and for being there below the ground for a very long period this electromagnetic field expands continuosly. Even if those treasure were far below that mud you will probably experience this MD detection phenomenon. But try digging more down to 85 feet maybe i am wrong (who knows true goldbars were waiting there) but if you found nothing down there at 85 feet then my theory is right. May pagasa ka pa! Makikita natin yan pero hindi sa butas na yan...🤗
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 09, 2019, 05:58:14 PM
At 80 feet and not even some odd formations of stones, aaaeeerrrr.  When at 110 feet, toss in the towel or shovel and go have a cold San Miguel.  Not there.  By 80 feet there is most always something there.

Z
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 09, 2019, 06:06:31 PM
I know of a site as bad as that or worse.  You would not think such a thing could happen.  A small tunnel kind of deposit in a back water part of a smaller island.  Several different trys had been made to dig and clear out this site, the tunnel was found.  Every time someone starts, someone gets killed.  Finally after 8 deaths related to the work and not necessarily on the property getting killed, the family said NO more digging.  Finally someone convinces a relative to dig the site.  They dig and the next day the digger's brother gets killed riding a motor cycle away from the site.  Direct hit by a truck on the road.  During the dig they found most recent evidence that someone had sacrificed a local Filipino girl and buried her in the hole.  Presumably to prevent any more bad spirits looking for someone to kill.

As it stands now, 9 people have died digging a hole not more than 25 feet deep.  Taking a picture of the site, there appears a dark shadow cloud over the entrance and even the pictures have an evil feeling looking at them.

These things are real.

Z



Dear Tninja,

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts regarding my question about spirit guardians. Each and everyone here have different point of view regarding unseen entities depending on their experiences and beliefs. This is our first time in this adventure so we are really confuse when things happened out of ordinary but you really have a good point and i totally agree with what you’d said.

So far, we are at 70 feet depth and the layer is getting slightly soft now the signal is more strong and the frequency is very less. Hoping to reach the zero frequency very soon and see what’s next under the gray layer. But we need to wait for few days to continue digging again due to some equipment that is broken again.

You're welcome. This is a long story so I won't go in to all of it, but one time my group hired a mananambal to come light some incense, slay a chicken and say his words over the site because the family kept insisting on doing it. Within days 2 family members had become possessed by a spirit that tried to make a deal with the brother for 10% if he killed everyone else. The father also had gotten drunk and lost his mind, destroying everything in the house at one point. The very healthy pig staying in a pin near the dig site, that was kept very clean, mysteriously died during the night etc etc... For me it was obvious what had invited all of those spirits there. But anyways, I hope you are successful there my friend. Stay safe
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: ZOBEX on July 09, 2019, 06:14:19 PM
Dear Sir Fom1113

Thank you for giving light on this issue about water pump. We will surely apply your suggestion. Hopefully not just to lessen the expenses but to expedite the work.

Regards

We use a large firm ( often hard white plastic ) bucket , drill lots of holes on the side, drop the submersible pump in the bucket and lower the bucket down to the bottom.  Leave some loose slack on the pump hose and tie it to the lowering rope.  On the push up from the bottom, use hard flexible hose, the black stuff with wire wound around.  Once over the top and down away you can use soft flat  flexible kind.  That turn of 90' from coming up vertical and turning flat, that turn if allowed to collapse using not hard hose, will drastically reduce the efficiency in pushing out water.

Z
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: tninja on July 10, 2019, 02:09:00 AM
Yo guys ... Check it out, i'm doing the happy dance over here  ;D

https://youtu.be/B8rp1lw9aKo

https://imgur.com/aZweEf6
https://imgur.com/YLECesc
https://imgur.com/a/ZESMxzW

44 ft depth. What are your thoughts?

Zobex, im in 100% agreement with you. Its crazy and bizarre but yes these treasure locations do appear to have a very real spiritual presence. Its interesting to hear about your experience. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on July 11, 2019, 05:04:09 AM
Hi Everyone,

Can anyone explain what a V sign means?
We have found a V shape sign pointing down. It's looks like it is molded the size is twice the palm and the color is Violet. Unfortunately we can't take a photo at the moment.

Regards
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on July 12, 2019, 01:16:27 AM
This code that i found from the net is similar to other codes that spread in different website. The question is how deep?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on July 12, 2019, 10:00:34 AM
Dear Fom1113

So does this mean there is big possibility we are digging on the right spot?
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on July 12, 2019, 08:49:47 PM
Yes your dig spot is positive and i knew it ever since i started to reply in this post. TH are mostly digging at the right spot but most of them end up in failure. Determining the depth of load is crucial to success. Did you notice that i was so persistent to remind you that you are possibly digging at the big load? If you have a lot of money to support that mega operation then you can continue and you can stop your query to anyone anytime.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on July 12, 2019, 08:54:39 PM
Your digging goes far away from the small loads somewhere in terms of depth.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on August 23, 2019, 08:41:57 AM
Hello Everyone,

Can i ask your opinion please regarding the below signs? I will upload a video later to interpret them better. Also in one part of the video there is something that looks like a face when you flip it. I also posted a screenshot of it. If anyone can help your input is highly appreciated. Thank you.

Regards
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: jewellcat on August 23, 2019, 04:10:06 PM
Here are the videos. All input are welcome .
Thank you for your time.

Regards
Title: Re: Is this a sign of Treasure?
Post by: fom1113 on August 25, 2019, 02:41:59 AM
 That thing you found is the result of back fill layering. Look how the soil of different property was sandwiched inside the thick layer that you are currently digging? That was unintentionally created by those who dug the original shaft to subdivide the treasure that was hidden. But for us who are keen observer of anything then it is a good signal that a treasure cache was hidden in that level but you can't guess where in every quadrant of compass direction you have to proceed.

 If the treasure cache was predetermined at the top of your shaft that maybe an added clue which may lessen the burden of being lost.