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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ohms Plummet to .5 - 5
« Last post by NinjaT on August 21, 2019, 03:20:23 PM »
“When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.”

Confucius

This was like only my second time using resistivity. I'm a total noobie with this method. But we did follow all the right procedures.

It was just shocking to see such a drop in resistivity. Even though I did not completely understand the true significance of it. But just using common sense I knew there must be something conductive down there.

After educating myself over the past few days, I believe you and Confucius would be absolutely correct. I would be an imbecile to keep examining the finger pointing to this massive horde of gold.

Thanks to everyone for replying to my noobie post.
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ohms Plummet to .5 - 5
« Last post by ZOBEX on August 21, 2019, 12:05:48 PM »
“When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.”

Confucius
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OTHER GOLD Bar Stuff / Re: Idiot Finds 280 Gold Bars
« Last post by NinjaT on August 21, 2019, 11:02:57 AM »
This is an old story. A few years ago, some investigators actually filmed and went over to the guys house (he has always denied doing interviews in the past) but for some reason he finally agreed. They were trying to get him to divulge the location but in the end I think he never did.
TW

It was sad that his family started talking to the news. I hope the location they gave was not accurate, for his sake. Maybe he can carefully recover the bars over time.
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OTHER GOLD Bar Stuff / Re: Idiot Finds 280 Gold Bars
« Last post by admin on August 20, 2019, 10:05:18 PM »
This is an old story. A few years ago, some investigators actually filmed and went over to the guys house (he has always denied doing interviews in the past) but for some reason he finally agreed. They were trying to get him to divulge the location but in the end I think he never did.
TW
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OMG.. so bad.. but I guess it's kinda expected and not surprising. I have personally met all those guys at the National Museum also. Oh well..

Yes, Zobex, you're absolutely right! That sounds like the thing to do.
TW
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You notice it mentions everyone just below Barns but not Barns himself.  Years ago it was 10,000 usd so when I had to pay I gave them fake gps co-ordinates.  Guess what, after the permit was issued, police thugs showed up right at the fake co-ordinates. 

You don't just get a paper document.  You must post cash bonds, hire police security, pay an anthropologist to supervise bla bla bla and all naturally take or require a cash in hand "fee" .


Z

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Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, August 19) — An entrapment operation on Monday led to the arrest of two officials of the National Museum who allegedly extorted ₱120,000 from a person applying for treasure hunting permits.

Philippine Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) Commissioner Greco Belgica said their office has been receiving reports since July against Ernesto B. Toribio Jr., head of the museum's treasure hunting section, and Deputy Director General Angelo P. Bautista.

Belgica added the National Musem has no clear procedures on the acquisition of licenses and permits. This, he said, can lead to bribery from certain officials.

He said the PACC will be conducting further investigations on how the National Museum issues permits.

"Tuwing walang malinaw na requirement at magulo ang requirement [As long as there are no clear requirements, and the process is confusing], that’s what breeds corruption — 'yun ang [that is is the] birthing ground ng [of] corruption." said Belgica.

Belgica said fees for the permits usually amount to around ₱3,000 each.

One of those arrested, Toribio, denied the charges, saying that what they did was not illegal and permits for treasure hunting cost hundreds of thousands of pesos.

According to the National Museum, fees for treasure hunting activities range from ₱3,000 for small scale activities (less than one hectare), ₱5,000 for medium scale private/commercial area, and ₱10,000 for large scale activities if the area is one hectare or more of both private/commercial and public land. All applications should be accompanied by documents stating who the treasure hunters would be partnering with, a detailed description of the site, as well as financial statements.

All applications are subject to approval, and if the application is granted, the permit is valid for a year with a possible one-time extension of another year.

According to the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI), what Toribio and Bautista did was bribery and extortion, a violation of the Anti-graft and Corrupt Practices Act.

The National Museum has yet to respond to the issue and the allegations of the PACC

https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2019/8/19/national-museum-pacc-extortion-treasure-hunting-permit.html
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ohms Plummet to .5 - 5
« Last post by NinjaT on August 20, 2019, 05:11:27 AM »
What is the make and model of the equipment, post a sketch of the probe array you are using.

Z

Iris Instruments T-VLF
http://www.iris-instruments.com/t-vlf.html

We were just using two probes. Spacing between the probes was 200 ft with the hole in the center. Like the image below. Thanks for checking it out
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ohms Plummet to .5 - 5
« Last post by ZOBEX on August 20, 2019, 05:02:16 AM »
The reading was taken at a probe spacing of 200 ft so the anomaly was somewhere around 100 ft depth under pure limestone. To reach the current depth of the hole they had to use a jackhammer to dig straight through the limestone which was pure calcified coral all the way down to the current depth of 85 ft. This is in an area where a lot of tunneling had taken place by the Japanese when depositing treasure during WW2. So someone would have had to dig a hole straight through limestone down to 100 ft and then tunnel over to bury anything.

What is the make and model of the equipment, post a sketch of the probe array you are using.

Z
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ohms Plummet to .5 - 5
« Last post by admin on August 19, 2019, 10:29:10 PM »
Yea, but are you even sure they made a successful recovery?
TW

That one was a detector, and they did not give the landowner even 1%
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