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500-year-old shipwrecks teeming with porcelain and wood discovered in South China Sea
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article275659401.html

Hundreds of years ago, the Ming dynasty relied on maritime trade to import key goods from foreign countries. Now, the discovery of two Ming-era shipwrecks in the South China Sea is giving experts a better idea at what that trade looked like. The shipwrecks were discovered about 1 mile below sea level on the northwest slope of the South China Sea, according to a May 22 news release from the State Administration of Cultural Heritage via the Institute of Archaeology at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

Here’s what archaeologists have found in the shipwrecks so far.

A trove of porcelain

Experts determined that the first shipwreck dates to the Zhengde period of the Ming dynasty — which lasted from 1506 until 1521.

The wreck was overflowing with porcelain goods, including bowls, cups, plates and jars in various glaze colors, officials said.

More than 100,000 relics, mostly made of porcelain, have been uncovered so far, and experts said they are spread across hundreds of thousands of square feet. Photos from the discovery show stacks of porcelain pottery. Although most of the pieces are covered with sand and dirt, ornate, colorful patterns are still visible beneath the grime.

Stacks of logs and pottery

The second, older shipwreck dated to the Hongzhi period of the Ming dynasty — which lasted from 1488 until 1505.

At this site, experts found stacks of logs and some pottery, according to officials. The persimmon logs were all a similar size and were neatly stacked.

Further research revealed that the logs could have been intended for shipbuilding, experts said. Chinese literature indicates that most products used to build ships were imported from foreign countries, according to the release. A unique discovery Archaeologists said their discovery marks the first time ancient ships sailing and returning have been found in the same area, indicating that they were likely on an important trade route. Experts will continue researching and monitoring the wrecks, and they hope to learn more about ancient maritime trade routes and cultural exchanges, they said.
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by admin on May 08, 2023, 09:25:15 AM »
Wow.. very interesting!!
TW
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by ZOBEX on May 01, 2023, 02:58:07 AM »
Well Well Well, so President Marcos goes to Washington DC and the White House.  In the spring of a year ending in 3 .  For those of you whom do not know, the 27,000 metric tons of gold the PH military put into the Fed Res., that is on a 10 year certificate of deposit that renews on a year ending in 3.  Like in 2023. The spring of 2023, like in April and May of 2023. 

I wonder what kind of deal Bong is going to be making with the now financially broke USA. ? ? ?

Z
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by ZOBEX on April 20, 2023, 02:32:28 PM »
Yea, that is how I would take it.  I guess he was given an offer he could not refuse.

Z

Remember Antony Blinken Sec of State paid a visit to Marcos in Manila a couple of months before this final decision.  I also noticed a pic of Bong Marcos taken a couple of months ago where in his face shows a noticeable swelling like his father did.  His father's swell because he was poisoned.  Maybe it is the same plan being repeated.  Who knows ?

The announcement of the 4 new bases was held back while the joint effort of the PH and USA governments went and negotiated the acquiring of the proposed sites.  I interpret that to mean, they had to re-confirm the exact deposit locations and get ownership of the land as it was not on government land.  So I have been led to believe.

Z


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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by ZOBEX on April 20, 2023, 02:25:46 PM »
Yea, that is how I would take it.  I guess he was given an offer he could not refuse.

Z
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by admin on April 18, 2023, 03:51:08 PM »
Very nice! So.. I take it that Marcos is friendly and leans towards the US Government? Unlike the previous president of the Phils?

Reported in the news  - -

The Presidential Communications Office said in a statement that the four sites will be in Isabela and Cagayan, on the island of Luzon, facing north towards Taiwan, and on Palawan, near the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

For the new US Military bases.  Hmmm, just happens to be on top of some major gold bunker deposits.  There is 1,000 metric tons in Isabela that was dug and relocated about 3 years ago.  The US Embassy guys could not figure out how to get it out of the country.  1,000mt gold and 4mt of diamonds in crates.  A Yamashita relocation before the end of the war.

Z
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ZOBEX SAID:
BTW there are some lesser shallow deposits on that site that are not recovered.  Also there had been a previous recovery attempt on that chamber involving an approval by the PH government, that attempt ran out of money and technology.

QUERY:

HOW deep are the shallow deposit in Davao City and Davao del Sur? any idea?   
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by renantiur on April 15, 2023, 03:16:39 AM »
wow. double hit .

bases. plus gold recovery
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Stupid
« Last post by ZOBEX on April 11, 2023, 02:31:23 AM »
Reported in the news  - -

The Presidential Communications Office said in a statement that the four sites will be in Isabela and Cagayan, on the island of Luzon, facing north towards Taiwan, and on Palawan, near the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

For the new US Military bases.  Hmmm, just happens to be on top of some major gold bunker deposits.  There is 1,000 metric tons in Isabela that was dug and relocated about 3 years ago.  The US Embassy guys could not figure out how to get it out of the country.  1,000mt gold and 4mt of diamonds in crates.  A Yamashita relocation before the end of the war.

Z
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General Chat about WWII LOOT / Re: Ground Mapping
« Last post by admin on March 19, 2023, 02:29:02 PM »
Oh wow. So they were sending up one of their super satellites?
TW
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