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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #150 on: January 27, 2012, 09:07:56 AM »
sir dahvos, i sent you PM
continue the journey

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #151 on: January 27, 2012, 09:14:48 AM »
Mr Z i sent you 2

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #152 on: January 27, 2012, 12:28:54 PM »
the reason why i rescinded my offer is exactly that I dont know you people and i would rather keep my fiancees identity intact since i am in no danger here in the states. I can post all i want on my own personal information it will really do you no good since all our properties and business is in her name until we are married. But if people are genuinely interested in buying our bar (and dont have alternitive intentions) they can message me.... 2..Lets be frank here do you really think everybody on these forums is an actual honest treasure hunter some could be waiting for such details for illegal activities. 1..In the past i have gotten what i consider spam by forumers who have only posted a few times messaging me that they want to sell me a map or gold. Or they want to help in the transport free of charge. Those are exactly the kind of people i want to stay away from. I will talk to my fiancee and see what she thinks since it is her information and her life that will be risked.

1.. are you saying members in this forum have done that..??
2.. considering this statement why did you even bother to offer your resto for sale then...? there are far more secure ways of selling a business, but as you  now have withdrawn that.....
hmm..lots of our questions are just being ignored whilst other members get answered...just like..?
ah  well never mind.. get the message nah... ;)

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #153 on: January 27, 2012, 01:14:53 PM »
1. thats exactly what i said!
2. in frustration is why i offered it... then i realized what that ment in its entirely...
Tell me what questions are being ignored? The one about no info on the bodies perhaps!!
I am awaiting more info myself so when i get that info i will share it.
When i first heard the news from my fiance about the deaths ..the first thing i did was check the newspapers and online news so i was a step ahead.
We have a theory and a possible lead which i WONT share until i get some of my own questions answered about the now deceased.
Have patience and a little understanding

And some things i have not shared here on this thread!   A few members who have taken the time to message me in the past and ask me questions have received answers that fill in some things/gaps.......  And sometimes i must ask those questions to my fiancee for answers if i dont have them right away.

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #154 on: January 27, 2012, 01:24:10 PM »
#2 totally acceptable.!!

#1.had it been me, then those names would be on this site in large letters!! as everyone has the right also to know who they are so they also dont get scammed and or duped by those people.!! would you care to divulge their names ..??

Buy Out your Enlistment Contract so you can get out of the Navy...?? info required pls.

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #155 on: January 27, 2012, 02:02:08 PM »
Boyscout was one offering to sell me maps. He has 0 posts, all the messages i deleted way back when they offered but i am 100percent remember Boyscout was the name of one of them.... Yes buying out my contract has been my goal for the past almost 3 years way before this gold buiss. Some say you can, some say you cant. It could be an urban myth. One of my buddys in my workshop swears his friend who is the same rate as us did it when he was in his C school and that he had to pay back all the money that the navy had ever paid him in wages/bonus even the taxable.  And yes i can get a Financial Hardship Discharge but i dont know all the peticulars on that nor how much money u need to be consideredfor discharge. It wont matter if  i dont find any more gold because without the money its pointless to start that process

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2012, 02:33:47 PM »
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city. The man in the black shirt i know is the uncle but the cousin was wearing blue shirt and pants. I am supprised the body count is now 5. The uncle is 41 years of age and the cousin in his mid 20s. I am pretty sure these deaths are all related.  My fiance said there were signs of torture heavy blunt trauma to the face and heads and they were shot once each (i asked where they were shot in their bodys she said she did not ask where yet) Both bodys were flown to cdo yesterday in the custody of the auntie. I have asked for BETTER details also the names of the officers in charge of the investigation. It is confusing to me some sources online say one was shot or all were strangled different conflicting information on ages ...check it yourself

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Re: Mindoro
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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2012, 02:37:10 PM »
Boyscout was one offering to sell me maps. He has 0 posts, all the messages i deleted way back when they offered but i am 100percent remember Boyscout was the name of one of them.... Yes buying out my contract has been my goal for the past almost 3 years way before this gold buiss. Some say you can, some say you cant. It could be an urban myth.1.. One of my buddys in my workshop swears his friend who is the same rate as us did it when he was in his C school and that he had to pay back all the money that the navy had ever paid him in wages/bonus even the taxable. 2..And yes i can get a Financial Hardship Discharge but i dont know all the peticulars on that nor how much money u need to be consideredfor discharge. It wont matter if  i dont find any more gold because without the money its pointless to start that process
Boyscout his email is ."thirdtwist3d@yahoo.com"
owner of said email is "Irma Cosme Copa" who is married and lives in Baguio. So maybe not her but someone who uses her email...?
You can check that out on FB.
1.. that is BS, sorry..!
2..To be able to do that you have to have enough so that it takes you all your time looking after your own finances. so,,,a couple of million Bucks (US) should do it....... ;)
how do i know, just spent 25yrs in the military, +5yrs active reserve, and was working at Coronada Cal for a while....its who you know... ;)
anyway there yah go....
Tip, win the US lottery and you will be out in 3 weeks......

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Re: Mindoro / Early Discharge USN
« Reply #159 on: January 27, 2012, 02:58:03 PM »
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ANNOUNCES EXTENSION OF THE ENLISTED EARLY TRANSITION PROGRAM TO 30
SEPTEMBER 2011 AND PROVIDES UPDATED POLICY FOR THE PROGRAM.
SEPARATION UNDER THIS PROGRAM MAY BE NO GREATER THAN 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO END OF ACTIVE OBLIGATED SERVICE (EAOS) AND ALL SEPARATIONS MUST BE
EFFECTED NO LATER THAN 15 SEPTEMBER 2011.

2.  OUR SUCCESSFUL STAY NAVY MESSAGE CONTINUES TO YIELD EXCELLENT
REENLISTMENT RATES AND LOW ATTRITION.  AT THE SAME TIME NAVY HAS
MAINTAINED OUTSTANDING RECRUITING SUCCESS.  THESE CONDITIONS PUT US IN
A UNIQUE POSITION TO FURTHER EXPAND EARLY SEPARATION POLICIES FOR
SELECTED SAILORS AND SAILORS WHO HAVE RECEIVED A PERFORM TO SERVE
SEPARATION LETTER WHO WOULD OTHERWISE SEPARATE LATER IN THE FISCAL YEAR.  VOLUNTARY EARLY SEPARATION OF SELECTED SAILORS WILL ALLOW FURTHER STABILIZATION AND ALIGNING OF THE FORCE AS NECESSARY.

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TO COMNAVPERSCOM (PERS-832) VIA THEIR COMMANDING OFFICER
(CO) FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THEIR EAOS OR EXTENDED EAOS.  FOR
EXAMPLE, A QUALIFIED SERVICEMEMBER WITH AN EAOS OF 12 AUGUST 2011 MAY
REQUEST SEPARATION WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS EARLY AS 12 AUGUST 2010.

4.  COMMANDING OFFICERS STILL MAINTAIN FINAL DISAPPROVAL AUTHORITY
UNDER THIS PROGRAM AND NEED NOT FORWARD ANY REQUESTS TO COMNAVPERSCOM
THAT THEY CANNOT SUPPORT.  COMNAVPERSCOM (PERS-832) HAS FINAL APPROVAL
AUTHORITY FOR REQUESTS WITH POSITIVE CO ENDORSEMENT.
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CAREER OPPORTUNITY MATRIX, WILL BE BASED ON INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY
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5.  WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER TO FORWARD A MEMBER'S REQUEST TO
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OPERATIONAL AND FLEET RESPONSE PLAN SCHEDULE, ETC.
COMMANDS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF EARLY SEPARATION SHOULD NOT EXPECT A
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OR SIMILAR SPECIAL AND INCENTIVE PAY PROGRAM IN EFFECT AT ANY TIME
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COMPLETED THE DOD TOUR REQUIREMENT, INCLUDING OVERSEAS TOUR EXTENSION
INCENTIVE PROGRAM EXTENSIONS FOR WHICH A BENEFIT HAS BEEN RECEIVED; OR
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OF A BONUS OR SPECIAL AND INCENTIVE PAY (E.G., SRB, EB, SDIP), ARE
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REMAINING, INCLUDING ANY EXTENSION TIME, AS OF THE DATE OF SEPARATION
(REQUESTS TO WAIVE AN INOPERATIVE EXTENSION MAY BE SUBMITTED FOR
CONSIDERATION); AND
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WHICH THEY ARE RECEIVING SRB.  (SEE PARA 13 FOR INFORMATION ON
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(INCLUSIVE) MAY REQUEST EARLY SEPARATION UNDER THIS PROGRAM IN
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WERE PAID A BONUS OR SPECIAL PAY WILL BE SUBJECT TO RECOUPMENT OF THE
UNEARNED PORTION OF THE BONUS OR SPECIAL PAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH DODFMR
VOLUME 7A, CHAPTER 2, AS APPROPRIATE.

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NAVADMIN.
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INITIAL 8-YEAR MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATION (MSO) AND ARE BEING RELEASED
FROM ACTIVE DUTY AND JOINING THE SELECTED RESERVE.
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MSO AND WILL BE DISCHARGED FROM ACTIVE DUTY.
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    A.  RELEASED FROM ACTIVE DUTY WITH SEPARATION CODE MCC;
        (1) 942 FOR USN PERSONNEL WITH HONORABLE DISCHARGE; OR
        (2) 943 FOR USNR PERSONNEL WITH HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
    B.  DISCHARGED WITH SEPARATION CODE KCC:
        (1) 803 FOR USN PERSONNEL WITH HONORABLE DISCHARGE;
        (2) 813 FOR USNR PERSONNEL WITH HONORABLE DISCHARGE;
        (3) 842 FOR USN PERSONNEL WITH GENERAL (UNDER HONORABLE
CONDITIONS) DISCHARGE; OR
        (4) 853 FOR USNR PERSONNEL WITH GENERAL (UNDER HONORABLE
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RELEASE, SUCH AS SEPARATION PAY (VOLUNTARY OR INVOLUNTARY).
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ALL SEPARATIONS UNDER THIS PROGRAM MUST BE EFFECTED ON OR PRIOR TO
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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #160 on: January 27, 2012, 03:09:58 PM »
i'm not a gambler LOL ;D.......casinos or lotto anyway

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #161 on: January 27, 2012, 03:12:43 PM »
And yes i know i could smoke some weed or some spice and be out less than a month but i am a man of honor and that is not my kind of way.

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #162 on: January 27, 2012, 04:04:49 PM »
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city. The man in the black shirt i know is the uncle but the cousin was wearing blue shirt and pants. I am supprised the body count is now 5. The uncle is 41 years of age and the cousin in his mid 20s. I am pretty sure these deaths are all related.  My fiance said there were signs of torture heavy blunt trauma to the face and heads and they were shot once each (i asked where they were shot in their bodys she said she did not ask where yet) Both bodys were flown to cdo yesterday in the custody of the auntie. I have asked for BETTER details also the names of the officers in charge of the investigation. It is confusing to me some sources online say one was shot or all were strangled different conflicting information on ages ...check it yourself
    Conflicting is the right word for the report says they were strangled and this is in Quezon City. Your first post about those deaths was they were shot and it happened in Manila, so, which is true.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 05:16:36 PM by t_hunter44 »

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #163 on: January 27, 2012, 05:11:02 PM »
that long winded post of Zobex is Not for a termination of contract,

 but this..  "QUALIFIED ENLISTED SAILORS MAY SUBMIT REQUESTS FOR EARLY SEPARATION
TO COMNAVPERSCOM (PERS-832) VIA THEIR COMMANDING OFFICER
(CO) FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THEIR EAOS OR EXTENDED EAOS."

or....early retirement from service up to 12  months ahead of termination date..

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Re: Mindoro
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2012, 01:36:25 AM »
they were strangled and beaten and shot. Also the article has switched their ages. I am inquiring about where the bullet wounds were on the bodys. I have requested even the autopsy report from the aunt but all this info goes through the aunt to my womans sister then to my woman. So hopefully today i have those answers