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Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« on: August 12, 2009, 10:22:40 AM »
This photo of a big japanese historical gold coin with the embosed replica of the National Diet Building of Japan and on its back the House of Representatives is in the possession of my friend's friend. Perhaps the japanese would like to redeem it from them. Anyone who can help them find their way to the Japanese embassy or to Japan?

The building of the National Diet of Japan comprises the House of Representatives and the House of Peers, much like the British House of Lords, consisted of high ranking nobles.
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The National Diet is the seat of power of Japan. It is the center of the countryís political strength where branch of knowledgeable aristocrats are tasked to formulate legislations. The imperial family through wisdom, wealth and force of character exercises indirect authority over men, things and events to make, amend, repeal laws of the nation in obedience to customary practices and traditions.

On top is the Imperial Seal of Chrysanthemum. No one is permitted to use the Imperial Seal except the Emperor of Japan. Within the seal, at the middle, is the Emperorís Signature and Privy Seal in Constitution in the Empire of Japan. It is Japanís official seal or the State Seal of Japan.

From both sides of the Imperial Seal are the leaves of Chrysanthemum. Chrysanthemum in the Greek word,  means golden flower. It is a flowering herb and there is a Festival of Happiness in Japan that celebrates the flower.  Chrysanthemum Throne is given to the position of Japanese Emperor and the badge or crest of the emperor of Japan, therefore the flower represents the emperor and Imperial House.

Small Japanese words encrypted below the item could be referring to a name of person, most likely hold ownership of the artifact.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 12:31:30 PM »
Cap,
I didn't quite get you. Are you saying that the owner of this coin wants to return it to Japan or sell it or what exactly do you want us to do here?
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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 04:31:26 PM »
Bro Cap, That is definitely not a coin it is too big to be a coin, It might be a commemorative plate. but the problem is there is no date or maybe there is if you have it translated the date is important to know the why and when it originated, there should be a relevance about if that is gold. however you should know also the purity and weight.

That maybe also a be just gold plated.

Please see sample of Japans commemorative coins:

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 04:40:19 PM »
Bro there are only 1,000pcs Japanese Commemorative Coins issued up to now
That golden plate or enormous coin is not on the list.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 11:11:05 PM »
Capmiwa,
 How did you got this commemorative coin??? Ive been keeping this with me for years now! I never shown it to anyone and even talked about it as its very secretive...Did the owner allowed you to post this? maybe he will get angry with us brother?.....Anyway,,,this is not a golden seal or whatever but it is original and not hoax only....This has a very significant meaning......

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 12:54:22 AM »
TW,
You are right, the holder(not owner) wanted to return it to Japan. he told me there must be a reward for this because this is historic, precious and significant to them.

MasKara,
They just termed it as a coin, yes it's quite big, not really a coin because this belongs to royalties during the era of Emperor Akihito Heisei's reign. The house of diet was then called house of peers "kizokuin".
 It is believed that the  artifact was made during the era of  Emperor Hirohito (1901-1989) and Prince Akihito (1933-Present) which also coincided on the Electrometaldating which revealed that the age of artifact was sometime in the 1930ís.  Construction of Diet building started in 1920-1936.

Bro Gener.
This photo was entrusted to me by the source through a friend. They wanted this to be returned to Japan and ask for help. I asked them if I could post it so it might be seen by those who could help and they said, YES you may do so. I didn't know that you also have this coin, or have we met the same people?

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 09:17:20 AM »
So, is there anyone here who has a contact with the japanese embassy or the royalties of japan? or anyone with connections to them?

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 10:33:50 AM »
Brothers I can get it done but have to be very careful, nothing has resulted in googling the history or what commemorative whatever it is. The owner has to present it itself I will just be the messenger and if he can communicate with us I will turn him over to the right person and they be the one to talk.

Cap, coordinate with Gener and the owner whatever will come up with your findings I will relay it to the right people and see what they will say. then we will start from that.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 04:51:47 AM »
Bro MasKara,
who are the "right people" you are mentioning? are they connected with the royalties of japan? I have to know what i will tell to the holder of this significant artifact before they will agree to bring it out. They wanted to go to the right people, so they will bring it out only when they know and believe that they are talking to the right people, but they need to know who they are. if it cannot be mentioned here, perhaps we could discuss it privately. thanks bro.

Bro Gener,
If you know something about this significant artifact, maybe we can discuss about it privately. especially if you already met the people who are keeping this item.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 07:16:09 AM »
capmiwa,
 I have a lot lot of communication with these mr "R" about this.. i tried to contact my friends in japan recently but i was told that he was died few months before i contacted him....i asked if where is his son whose with me on a seminar in cal.usa before but again i was told that he is in china..try to email this jap but no replies........Next step,,,im zero...

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 10:21:17 AM »
Bro Cap I just can't shovel this coin to the Japanese contact (diplomat) without any information how and why it turned out of all people to them. They will dismissed this as a hoax, and they can't just relay messages of no importance to Empero. Most probably ordinary Jap folks do not have any knowledge of the existence of this coin that's why I told you that it should be proven and convincing,

I did google it but nothing of that coin is of record so if they have any form of evidence of its history then it would be a first step to take.

Ka Gener what do you know about this coin, why are they afraid to return it, for what I can forsee thay want compensation or reward, if that's the intention they should write (ananymous) the embassy inquiring to the veracity of these item, then if it is of importance they can arrange for a certain reward for keeping it safe and returning it with honest intention.

If they return it for an exchange amount the intention might be interpreted differently. so my advised is to build a dialogue with the embassy and return the item as voluntary. 

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2009, 06:48:54 AM »
MasKara Bro,
I'll email you the history of this "coin". It may not be found in the google or anywhere in the internet because this has never been seen or known by common people. Perhaps only few japanese people knows about this. That is why this photo is unique or genuine. It is only available from the person who photographed it from the keeper.

I think the keeper have met someone who has identified this coin already but they have lost contact with him already. They don't know what happened and it was this man who told them that there was a reward awaiting for the finder of this coin as it has a historic value. It was minted with the time the two emperors of Japan made a blood compact.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 09:12:58 AM »
I think there should be another witness who can give a clue to coraborate the story. But anyway who would be in that circle to know that piece is missing. It should be by the Emperors circle.
I'll ask around who are the Emperors protocol.

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2009, 01:23:45 AM »
Another way to coroborate on these stories i believe is to ask or find other people who have seen or heard of these coins. Perhaps historians, archeologists, but these coins are not yet centuries old. Perhaps people whose elder relatives or friends were there during that time. I believe few koreans have also knowledge about this. Just the same, historians who researched about japans histories and cultures might have knowledge about this, even journalist perhaps who were assigned or worked in the house of representatives of japan.   

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Re: Historic National Diet Coin of Japan
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2009, 06:15:06 PM »
CapM, thats just an ordinary plate, a souvenir item, if that is really from Japan Emperial Family or house of Diet, than why in English Language? For sure they will use their emperial seal which in in Japanese form of writing, that is just a souvenir item..hehehehehehehehehehe, and i don't believe thats gold, look how he holds that item, that big size is around 2 kilos, that is just gold plated....hehehehehehehehe..made in souvenir shops....
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