Historic National Diet Coin of Japan

[MasKara]

Boylara is right that thing if made of gold will likely weight about 1-2 kilogram.
Bro Cap, why not ask them how heavy is the plate. I really can't admit to call it a coin. It is a plate or plaque. if it is a coin then there should be an equivalent value in currency like maybe 1,000,000 yen coin compared to the size and value of gold.

[cap miwa]

This is not an ordinary plate, yes maybe plate is more appropriate to call this item. There is written in japanese character below the coin if you could see it, the name of the emperor. The crysanthemum which is a significant symbol i believe for the royalties only is also there.
 
I talked again to the holder and he said, they have it examined, took a bit of it and yes, it is not pure gold. It composed of different mixture of metals including bronze but not exactly bronze, it is a perfectly mixed different metals that they could not exactly identify.   

[Gener]

I guess it to be commemorative SEAL. This maybe attached to a band of clothing and serve as a medal for a high ranking official or a prince or an emperor and perhaps used for outside japan parades or meetings as it was in english letters mainly otherwise has to be in japanese letters. But whats surprices me is its a BACK TO BACK letters as if similar to a commercial coin...

[cap miwa]

This plate could not just be a souvenir because there was only one minted. Yes it could be a commemorative seal but it could not be attached to a band because there is nothing where to attach to it.

If you notice on one side of the plate, above the engraved building of the House of Diet (the seat of power of Japan) and that building is also the house of representatives of japan, the japanese encription means "AKIHITO HEISEI HOUSE OF PEERS". (like the brithish house of lords). Akihito was renamed Emperor Heisei. He is the present reigning Emperor now after the death of his father Emperor (Hirohito) Showa in 1989. This perhaps explain why the English encription.

On the otherside of the plate, if you notice below is an engraved name of the owner in japanese characters, It could not be read properly if it is Hirohito or Akihito's titled name.

The House of Peers originally comprised: (1) all imperial princes (shinno) and lesser princes of the imperial blood (o) over the age of twenty, (2) all princes and marquis over the age of thirty, (3) 150 elected representatives of the counts, viscounts, and barons, (4) 150 additional members nominated by the Emperor, in consultation with the Privy Council, and (4) 66 elected representatives of the 6,000 highest taxpayers. During the first session of the Imperial Diet (1889-890), there were 145 hereditary members and 106 imperial appointees and high taxpayers, for a total of 251 members.

[boylara]

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/jsp/db/board.jsp?id=46111

House of Representatives of Japan Commemorative Co
rs_zanshevar@yahoo.com - June 9th, 2009 - (view article)
Sir:

I am the holder of the lost and found commemorative coin of the Diet House of Japan which we found here in the Province of Sulu, Philippines, allegedly remnants of the World War II between the Amricans and the Japanese troops that landed in our province. How I wish to attache the picture of this historical Artifact but I can make it in this web. Anyway Sir, I can be reached thru my email address rs_zanshevar@yahoo.com

My objective is to officially turn over it to the rightful owner which I beleive owned by the fmily of the Emperor of Japan considering the things that can be found or seen on the surface of the coin, such as: Mount fuji, cryssanthemum flower, seal of the emperor, diet house building, the word "House of Representative of Japan", among others. May I hear from you Sir?

Respectfully,

RUHIR A. SHAMMAH

From other website, the same type of plate...hehehehehehehe

[MasKara]

Good research Boylara, do not be surprised if this type of scam will reached as far as North Luzon, ....Commemorative House of Diet Coin found.
The same thing of the photos I posted in the forum board "Real or Fake Gold Bars".. The 13 Japanese General Sword 1931, the 13 General signatures in a Japanese flag, The Goddess of Mercy and the 5th century sword of the Bolkhia.

The keepers wanted them to be returned to the rightfull owner especially the Goddess of Mercy.. same MO same motives If interested buy it and you will receive a big reward.

[cap miwa]

Hmmm I have to check who is this guy, if he is the one that my friend who entrusted the picture to me is telling to be holding it. But what is his proof that he has that coin or plate? He did not even show any proof of it, even a photo if he really have it.

Until these are proven, I would not believe it. It's easy to say or brand scam to any activity or to anybody but what is the basis for saying so if there are still things yet to be proven? I don't see yet anything even from that letter that what he is doing is a scam. As I was told, they already asked help from some people to look for contacts with the royalties of Japan. He might be one of those they asked help from or a third party and claim to be holding the coin/plate so it will be more convincing to the concerned.   

[cap miwa]

Yes, I was right. They know the guy that wrote the letter. He is with them and it is the same coin or plate that he is writing about. He wrote this because as I mentioned earlier, they wanted to return this item to the rightful owners. And that's it!

So bro MasKara, I don't think this is a scam. The people mentioned really have this. And it is not being used to extort money. They just wanted to bring it back to the owners. Maybe hoping for a reward but not using it to get money. The intention is to reach the owner and the experience would be worth it. Because if their intention is to gain money, they should have sold it already to foreigners who wanted to buy it. They said it is not for sale.

If you ever see another posting of the same kind, you are free to post it here so we will know if they are with my friend's group or just scammers. Because I will be the first to expose and get rid of it if it is a scam. Nice job boylara. You are indeed our researcher!   

[MasKara]

Bro Cap, I did not say it is a scam, What I am saying is this will be copied by scammers and con man in the future, i am comparing it the Goddess of Mercy and the swords that was offered to me by a friend who is not in treasure hunting. Telling me that the people who have it would like to return it to the rightful owner.

[cap miwa]

Well ok, at least we know for now that it is only in this thread that these photos came out. Anyone who would try to use it later, if it is not acknowledged from this source, that will be a scam. Anyone here could police that and we could help each other expose them.

Thanks everyone. So far, there is another communication sent to Japanese Embassy.

[boylara]

CapM, Maskara is right, we must help one another to identify if that thing is genuine or they will just use us to promote their own vested interest..

[cap miwa]

Boylara,
These guys who are holding this small piece of artifact knows a lot about the area where this item came from. Some in the group are fellow Ilocano's and some in our group even know some of them. And they have shown real stuffs to me and to some in our group. I don't think they would do such thing because it will just taint their credibility and personality. I'm sure they will not want to do that to themselves for just this small piece. They are holding much more than this thing and you would be surprised to learn about it and their knowledge to such sites.

[MasKara]

Cap, are you saying that the commemorative plate was found or recovered from a Yam treasure? that's contradicting the history of the plate / coin. The way it was minted is very clean and sophisticated there is no way that kind of minting existed during 1930's and early 1940's and why would it surface in the Phil. while the looting took place in other countries The Japs will not loot or steal from their own backyard.
If they have more valuable items why don't they show it like the coin/plate. What's holding them back, are they treasure hunting just for souvenirs. Their objective is to get rich right?

Hmmmm seems very intriguing, If I want to prove my credibility why would I keep my find. Unless they do not need money anymore b'coz they sold their major stocks and kept the other stuff as souvenirs why not, that commemorative plate is very attractive display.

[boylara]

CapM, just be careful....always decipher not everything they say or show you is genuine,

[cap miwa]

Sorry bro but i think you are arriving at a wrong conclusion. You cannot just conclude by your own opinion without first investigating the facts. It doesn't work that way to easaily discredit our brothers. This will lead others to think and conclude the same as you think when it is not corrected.  I have asked a lot and continue asking even now to be sure its not a hoax. They have the history already with them why it went there and they did not loot their own country as well. There were emmissaries who went there already to look for this coin/plate before they found it. And one has killed the other. They have nothing to do with what happened. I won't disclose further of it.

I give you one example. In one of our sites, we found a Titlist 4 golf ball burried on top together with the treasure. Why it was placed there where in fact in 1940's golf was popular only in London and was only beginning to be popular in Japan in 1944 and became only very popular in Japan in 1945-46? And why it was found in a treasure site in the Philippines? I did'nt believe it until I researched and found out the truth. A japanese officer brought it with him when he was assigned to the Philippines in 1945. I still have that golf ball with me and may I ask you to research if there are still titlist 4 golf ball today.