zan,

Im newbies in this site.

I did just get your message that u are a buyer of gold.. its already now im searching forsome like u...

I did post some story about where i can get the gold... surely we can get it if someone like u can help us..

I can show u the site in picture and u may know how u could help email me

lumapas_roel@yahoo.comFor more details..

Thanks, Tony, for your website. A lot of good stuff here. Sorry, I haven't posted to any message board in quite a few years, so I thought I'd give it a try. I wanted to post something about using density (specific gravity) to identify real vs. fake gold, but couldn't find an appropriate board here. Maybe we should have a section on scams and how to avoid them. Please feel free to relocate this post if desired.

I am a US citizen living in Makati now for about a year (this trip). I've been in the treasure business here in the Philippines since 1997. I have an ad at

http://truegold.sulit.com.ph which outlines the stuff I and my partners are interested in buying. Stuff like ABL, PVN, Uncut Dollars, "Wells Fargo", etc., even gold.

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FORMULA TO CALCULATE INGOT DENSITY

The formula for calculating the volume of an ingot-shaped gold bar requires a little calculus. (Now, listen up, because I was supposedly the #7 math student in the state of Texas (US) my Junior year of high school.) A normal rectangular bar would be the simple length x width x height, of course. But, those angles on many of the bars we examine can make things quite confusing.

Here's how to do it EXACTLY:

1. Make sure all your measurements are in millimeters. then divide them by 10 to get centimeters. We are aiming for total cubic centimeters (cc), so this is important.

2. You will need 5 measurements:

W1 = width of the larger bottom surface

L1 = length of the larger bottom surface

W2 = width of the smaller top surface

L2 = length of the smaller top surface

H = vertical height

*(Note: this is NOT the diagonal edge. Place the bar upside down on a table to measure accurately)*3. To make a long story short (skipping the calculus), the formula is the height times the

*average* horizontal cross-section area:

V = (H/6) x (2xL1xW1 + 2xL2xW2 + L1xW2 + L2xW1)

4. Then weigh the bar as exactly as possible in

*grams*. Don't use one of those cheap spring scales. A nice digital scale (like a luggage scale) is great.

5. Divide the grams by the cc and you have the density or specific gravity. Real WWII Au will be around 18 g/cc. Pure gold, of course, is more like 19.3.

6. Don't be fooled by gold-plated Tungsten (W), which has essentially the same density of Au, but much harder. You should be able to drive a nail into real Au.

Here's a guy who agrees with my calculation:

http://dfollett76.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/found-gold-barformula/You can also ask the question on any number of Math/Calculus Expert sites, if you have doubts.

Hope this helps.