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Offline KING

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S-bar
« on: April 22, 2016, 05:51:41 AM »

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Re: S-bar
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 06:06:08 AM »


somebody from visayas brought some sample here in davao city, and let me tested a small sample of that bar.

i have it tested with davao mineral laboratory and the result was a mixture of non-magnetic alloy of
1. lead
2. tin
3. aluminum
4.zinc.

the report also indicated  that:
a. it has "negative indication  of precious metals such as gold, silver and platinum".
b. the sample received was analyzed by qualitative test.

c. that the sample was analyzed by wet method, and the result was based on the sample submitted.


before peddling any items, the broker or holder must be sure of the metals he is offering by having the sample metal tested by himself. otherwise, he will become an accessory to a crime of selling fake bars.  he must not rely on certificates or assays given by the so-called owners of the bars because that is biased (and the assay report you posted is not an assay report made by a laboratory by its appearance alone. ). i would advice King to have the sample metals tested by himself personally with an accredited laboratory.


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Re: S-bar
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 07:06:00 AM »
The Intertec report was incomplete with only showing about 20%. What's happened with the other 80%? Something wrong with that report there.
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Re: S-bar
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 07:41:54 AM »


and you also add the fact that 3.04 and other figures were erased and a handwritten markings were superimposed. that's not a usual report.


a lab assay report will have the following info.

a. what was the method used in conducting the test.- whether it is for purity (percentage of a certain metal) or the composition of the bar (what are the metals mixed in the said bar (no mention of purity for each metal found in the said bar)
b . how many grams/kilo was the sample.
c.  what was the composition of the bar - if qualitative test is used.
d. whether there was a precious metal in the said bar (optional).
e. what was the method of conducted the test (only the lab personnel knows these.
f. who conducted the test (chemist)
g. who requested the test
h. date of test
i. RA no. (i dont know what is this)
j. Official REceipt no. (internal control purposes)
k. Report no. (optional - internal control purposes)
l. name of the laboratory, address, fax no. telephone number, email address
m. assay report prenumbered
n. total samples (optional)
o. total analysis (optional)



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Re: S-bar
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 07:45:53 AM »


according to an acquiantance,  the  owner of that bar claimed that it is a pure PT with a weight of 7.5 or 7.7 kilos ( i forgot the exact weight that he claimed).  but when the bar was measured using the method used by TW (admin) and multiplied by the specific gravity of PT , it does not add up. by the measurement test, it is fake.

that was the reason why we spent money to have it tested, and the results confirmed that the said bar is fake.

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Re: S-bar
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 02:56:28 AM »
....WoW! nice...........! thats what  that i need your comment.
now i know your great! thank you  very much all of you... :)

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Re: S-bar
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 04:51:18 PM »


its not about who is great or not. but i am giving you a brotherly advice to have it tested. what will you lose if you have a little sample of that tested? you will realize later that i am not bragging or anything but i am just stating a fact that I once had an experience with that bar and upon examination, it turned out to be fake.


here are the sample pics which i have secured from the holder before we have it tested. we did ask for samples before the testing. we secured a very small sample (i think about half a kilo as shown in the picture) and from that sample, we took several grams of it (2 grams i think). the result was negative.


attached are pictures which are not one of the pictures posted by king.

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Re: S-bar
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 04:52:09 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 04:52:58 PM »
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Re: S-bar
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 08:45:09 PM »
Mixed lot of LEAD bars.  For those of you that don't know.  When raw lead ore is smelted, you find all kings of other metals mixed in.  So it is not un-common to find copper, silver, gold or platinum in the mix.  When raw pig bars of lead are refined, those metals are recovered and then separated out.  Figures of 2% gold or so are not unrealistic but a bit high.  2% gold is conceivable.  For years Platinum was extracted and thrown away as there was no practical use for or process for smelting platinum.  Basically no one wanted it.  A worthless white metal.

The bars in the photographs are just lead bars.  Expensive to chemically separate for the average person and not worth the effort.

Learn what the LUSTER, COLOR, and shape that a melted bar of lead looks like.

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Silver bars look different, gold, platinum and copper.  Each have it's own look.  This is lead.  For sale on Mindanao ??  Less than 45 pesos a pound.

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