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ASSAY RESULT...
« on: January 21, 2017, 09:57:53 PM »
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Re: ASSAY RESULT...
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 12:48:07 AM »
Do all of those numbers add up to 100%? I'm trying to figure it out...
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 05:59:20 PM »


quantitative results are not measured in terms of grams but by purity .   for example, 10% au, 50% silver, aluminum 30% and 10% lead. it is not by grams.

moreover, the sample was indicated as 3.8 grams , and the total result of the grams for the result (au, pt, etc) was 4.171grams. how come these data did not add up?


the logo of CSA is not the correct logo of copper state analytical lab.  the address is also not the same, as well as the contact numbers.

it seems to me that D. A. Shah was correctly spelled .

but the caption "in business since 1958" does not also jive with their website. their website claims they are " operating since 1981".

if anybody of you knows copper state analytical lab, they are just one email away.

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 09:47:14 AM »
Yes. I know that. I can't see any 100% of purity there. What's exactly what I was referring to.
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quantitative results are not measured in terms of grams but by purity .   for example, 10% au, 50% silver, aluminum 30% and 10% lead. it is not by grams.

moreover, the sample was indicated as 3.8 grams , and the total result of the grams for the result (au, pt, etc) was 4.171grams. how come these data did not add up?


the logo of CSA is not the correct logo of copper state analytical lab.  the address is also not the same, as well as the contact numbers.

it seems to me that D. A. Shah was correctly spelled .

but the caption "in business since 1958" does not also jive with their website. their website claims they are " operating since 1981".

if anybody of you knows copper state analytical lab, they are just one email away.

thanks.

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Re: ASSAY RESULT...
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 03:22:36 PM »


yes sir tony. we have the same observation. i cannot see any 100% result there in terms of quantitative test results.

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Re: ASSAY RESULT...
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 02:40:37 PM »

Dear Mr ____ (my friend),

It is true that the report is fake. In fact CSAL INC has moved out of Tucson in 2006 to Prescott. The logo, letter head, name of the Lab ( Complete Analytical Services ), address, phone numbers, area code of phone numbers and many things are wrong.

Thank you for informing us. Have a good day.

Mr. D.A. Shah / Director
CSALINC

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2017, 03:27:48 PM »
quantitative results are not measured in terms of grams but by purity .   for example, 10% au, 50% silver, aluminum 30% and 10% lead. it is not by grams.

moreover, the sample was indicated as 3.8 grams , and the total result of the grams for the result (au, pt, etc) was 4.171grams. how come these data did not add up?

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Actually QUANTITATIVE means Quantity as in grams while QUALITATIVE means in Quality as in purity or how good it is.  The quality of the item.  An assayer does not have to be certified or licensed other than having a business license, if the assayer does it for profit.  A Certified Laboratory has to be licensed and meet some set of standards of proof of ability to do what they claim.  A certified laboratory can issue a declaration of testing and found results based upon using a set of regulated industry standards they are proven to be able to meet and declare they have done so.

I personally have been an assayer since 1981 and back then specialized in complex metallic ore's such as sulfides and in particular tellurium complex ore's.  No, I am not now or ever been licensed as a business other than for profit.  There is no certification for assayer's.  But I do have a degree in Chemistry.

Depending on how an analysis is performed, it IS possible to have the total resultant weight greater than the testing sample, IF it is a complexing analysis.  Say the gold is a mining sample of a button from a melt down.  That will contain copper, iron, nickle, silver and platinum as well as other possibilities.  One way to do the wet chemical separation is by precipitating out the various components with a salt.  For example, gold is pulled out as gold chloride, silver is pulled out as silver chloride and so on.  Since the way of making the precipitate come out is by making the dissolved gold fall out by combining with chlorine, the combined weight of the gold chloride is greater than the gold alone.  Same for the other elements.  If the weighing is done on the gold chloride and others, the combined weight will be greater than the initial sample.  But knowing the molecular weight of gold chloride and of gold element, one can back calculate the net weight of the gold alone.  But for mining purposes the lab tech would only look for what is requested and if you ask for only the precious metals then that is what he will pull out.  So the resulting numbers is what you ask for, not everything that is there at the start.

All depends how the testing laboratory does it.  But in this case I suspect the report you posted is just that, a bulllshit report.

Just so you know.

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Re: ASSAY RESULT...
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2017, 08:36:15 PM »

sorry for the misconception that i have posted sir zobex. i stand corrected.

i do believe also that the lab reported posted by king was totally fake. in fact, my friend emailed them and the lab confirmed it was a dubious assay report.

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Re: ASSAY RESULT...
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 10:40:47 PM »
KING... don't you have anything to say about all this now?
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 08:21:19 PM »
sorry admin for long reply... now i know lately this is fake result.i was asking the person who bring this to me, he also have a doubt. but thank you to you all we have a clarification for the truth.  thanks....!!

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 08:18:14 AM »
GPT means grams per ton, in a ton of that sample,, the corresponding values indicated in every element in the sample corresponds to its percentages,
So, Au is  0.002 grams per ton, Ag is 0.001 grams per ton, Pt is.48 grams per ton and so forth...... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
In other words the quantitative presence of the elements in a ton of that sample  is very Nil....
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