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Re: Post Any Photos of GENUINE Gold Bars Here!!!
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2010, 10:23:37 AM »
Bro, those are very huge diamond, that should be one of the biggest diamond ever, but how would we know they are genuine?

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« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2011, 09:56:01 PM »
a genuine pictures of assorted sizes and dimension of GOLD BARS

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Re: Post Any Photos of GENUINE Gold Bars Here!!!
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2011, 10:12:19 PM »
i've seen that picture from other forum... very lucky for the one who find it. nice pix

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« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2011, 10:40:16 PM »
that picture of gold bars of assorted kind were recovered from the bottom of the sea.(shipwrecked).those are real goldbars...

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« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2011, 10:55:49 PM »
boboi, thanks for the authentication, it all real golds, yes, i saw this from other forum and i put it here so that everybody saw it, which is requested by admin to post real gold pictures for the consumption of all members, i beleived so that they are from sea bed on board of the sunken vessel, ang swerte nila na nakakuha niyan tiyak malaking halaga (they are all lucky who recovered it, it sure a huge amount in dollars/peso), we pray also to all TH that someday they too can dug more than what we posted, please correct the translation i made because i am not sure if it is exact meaning. thanks  GOD BLESS.

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« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2011, 07:50:40 AM »
This comes from the "ATOCHA" a ship that carries the California gold rush products

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« Reply #66 on: January 12, 2011, 07:58:00 AM »
well, maybe this is worth reading... and maybe it's not from California gold rush products...

History Of The Shipwreck Nuestra Senora De Atocha
(The Atocha Story)

Spanish expansion in the New World was rapid and by the late 1500's Mexico City, Lima and Potosi had populations that exceeded the largest cities in Spain. It would be another half a century or more before the chief cities of colonial North America; Boston, Philadelphia, and New York, were to be founded. Colonists were granted huge tracts of land to grow tobacco, coffee and other products for export to the mainland. More important to the throne however, was the continent's mineral wealth of silver and gold, which were vital to Spain's continued growth.

Trade with the colonies followed a well-established system. Beginning in 1561 and continuing until 1748, two fleets a year were sent to the New World. The ships brought supplies to the colonists and were then filled with silver, gold, and agricultural products for the return voyage back to Spain.

The fleets sailed from Cadiz, Spain early in the year, following the approximate route that Columbus had taken years before. Upon arrival in the Caribbean, the two fleets would split up, the Nueva España Fleet continuing on to Veracruz, Mexico and the Tierra Firme Fleet to Portobello in Panama. Here, the ships were unloaded and the cargo of silver and gold brought aboard. For the return trip the divided fleets reassembled in Havana, then rode the Gulf Stream north along the coast of Florida before turning east when at the same latitude as Spain.

The treasure fleets faced many obstacles; the two greatest of which were weather and pirates. It was well known that the hurricane season began in late July, so for this reason the operation was timed for an earlier departure. For protection against pirates, each fleet was equipped with two heavily armed guard galleons. The lead ship was known as the Capitana. The other galleon, called the amaranth, was to bring up the rear. A recently constructed 110 foot galleon, the Nuestra Señora de Atocha, was designated the amaranth of the Tierra Firme Fleet.

The fleet departed Spain on March 23, 1622 and after a brief stop at the Caribbean Island of Dominica, the Atocha and the Tierra Firme Fleet continued on to the Colombian port city of Cartagena, arriving in Portobello on May 24th. Treasure from Lima and Potosi was still arriving by mule train from Panama City, a port on the pacific side of the Isthmus. It would take nearly 2 months to record and load the Atocha's cargo in preparation for departure. Finally, on July 22, the Tierra Firme Fleet set sail for Havana, via Cartagena, to meet the fleet returning from Veracruz. In Cartagena, the Atocha received an additional cargo load of treasure, much of it gold and rare first year production silver from the recently established mints here and at Santa Fe de Bogotá. It was late August, well into the hurricane season, before the fleet arrived in Havana.

As a military escort, the Atocha carried an entire company of 82 infantrymen to defend the vessel from attack and possible enemy boarding. For this reason, she was the ship of choice for wealthy passengers and carried an extraordinarily large percentage of the fleet's treasure. Unfortunately, firepower could not save her from the forces of nature.

On Sunday, September 4th, with the weather near perfect, the decision was made to set sail for Spain. The twenty-eight ships of the combined fleet raised anchor and in single file set a course due north towards the Florida Keys and the strong Gulf Stream current. The Atocha, sitting low from its heavy cargo, took up its assigned position in the rear. By evening the wind started to pick up out of the northeast growing stronger through the night. At daybreak the seas were mountainous and for safety most everyone was below deck seasick or in prayer. Throughout the next day the wind shifted to the south driving most of the fleet past the Dry Tortugas and into the relatively safe waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

The Atocha, Santa Margarita, Nuestra Señora del Rosario and two smaller vessels all at the tail end of the convoy received the full impact of the storm and were not so fortunate. With their sails and rigging reduced to shreds, and masts and tillers battered or broken, the ships drifted helplessly toward the reefs. All five ships were lost, the Atocha being lifted high on a wave and smashed violently on a coral reef. She sunk instantly, pulled to the bottom by her heavy cargo of treasure and cannon.

The next day, a small merchant ship making its way through the debris rescued five Atocha survivors still clinging to the ship mizzenmast. They were all that were left of 265 passengers and crew.

Salvage attempts began immediately. The Atocha was found in 55 feet of water with the top of its mast in plain view. Divers, limited to holding their breath, attempted recovery but were unable to break into the hatches. They marked the site and continued searching for the other wrecks. The Rosario was found in shallow water and was relatively easy to salvage, but the other vessels could not be located. While the salvagers were in Havana obtaining the proper equipment to retrieve the Atocha's treasure, a second hurricane ravaged the area tearing the upper hull structure and masts from the ship. When they returned, the wreck was no where to be found and salvage attempts over the next 10 years proved futile. However, the Santa Margarita was discovered in 1626 and much of her cargo salvaged over the next few years. But, time and events slowly erased memories of the Atocha. Copies of the ship's register and written events of the times eventually found their way into the Archives of the Indies in Seville, Spain. These documents, like the treasure itself, were to lay in obscurity waiting for the right set of circumstances centuries later.

The twentieth century was a period of tremendous technological advancement. For the Atocha, one of the most significant occurred in 1942 when a French naval lieutenant named Jacques-Ives Cousteau developed the self-contained underwater breathing apparatus, or SCUBA for short. It allowed divers to remain underwater for extended periods of time. SCUBA contributed to the discovery of ten wrecks from the 1715 Spanish treasure fleet near Vero Beach, Florida. This highly publicized 1960's salvage operation, conducted by Real Eight Corporation, ignited an unprecedented interest in Spanish colonial shipwreck salvage, which remains strong to this day. It was this event that drew people such as Mel Fisher into the industry and onto the path of the Atocha.

After participating in the 1715 fleet salvage operation, Mel formed a company called Treasure Salvors and began searching in earnest for the much talked about Atocha. His effort over a sixteen-year period from 1970 to 1986 is a book in itself. But, in short lead to the discovery of the Santa Margarita in 1980 and the Atocha on July 20, 1985, her hull lying in 55 feet of water, exactly as recorded by the first salvagers in 1622.

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« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2011, 07:59:43 AM »
another...

The heavily armed Nuestra Señora de Atocha sailed as Almirante, or rear guard, of the flota, following the others to prevent an attack from behind the fleet. For additional protection, she bore the name of the holiest of shrines in Madrid. She had been built for the Crown in Havana in 1620 and was rated at 550 tons, with an overall length of 112 feet, a beam of 34 feet and a draft of 14 feet. She carried square-rigged fore and mainmasts, and a lateen-rigged mizzenmast. Atocha would have had the high sterncastle, low waist and high forecastle of a typical early 17th century galeón. She had made only one previous voyage to Spain, during which her mainmast was burst, and had to be replaced.

For the 1622 return voyage, Atocha was loaded with a cargo that is, today, almost beyond belief -- 24 tons of silver bullion in 1038 ingots, 180,00 pesos of silver coins, 582 copper ingots, 125 gold bars and discs, 350 chests of indigo, 525 bales of tobacco, 20 bronze cannon and 1,200 pounds of worked silverware! To this can be added items being smuggled to avoid taxation, and unregistered jewelry and personal goods; all creating a treasure that could surely rival any other ever amassed.

The Nuestra Señora de Atocha sank with 265 people onboard. Only five -- three sailors and two slaves -- survived by holding on to the stump of the mizzenmast, which was the only part of the wrecked galleon that remained above water. Rescuers tried to enter the drowned hulk, but found the hatches tightly battened. The water depth, at 55 feet, was to great to allow them to work to open her. They marked the site of her loss and moved on to rescue people and treasure from Santa Margarita and Nuestra Señora del Rosario, other ships also lost in the storm. On October 5th a second hurricane came through, and further destroyed the wreck of the Atocha. For the next 60 years, Spanish salvagers searched for the galleon, but they never found a trace. It seemed she was gone for good.

In 1969, Mel Fisher and his Treasure Salvors crew began a relentless, sixteen year quest for the treasure of the Atocha. Using sand-clearing propwash deflectors, or "mailboxes," that he invented, and specially-designed proton magnetometers, they spent long years following the wreck’s elusive trail--sometimes finding nothing for months, and then recovering bits of treasure and artifacts that teasingly indicated the proximity of the ship and its cargo.

In 1973, three silver bars were found, and they matched the weights and tally numbers found on the Atocha’s manifest, which had been transcribed from the original in Seville. This verified that Fisher was close to the major part of the wrecksite. In 1975, his son Dirk found five bronze cannon whose markings would clinch identification with the Atocha. Only days later, Dirk and his wife Angel, with diver Rick Gage, were killed when one of the salvage boats capsized. Yet Fisher and his intrepid crew persevered.

By 1980, they had found a significant portion of the remains of the Santa Margarita -- with a fortune in gold bars, jewelry and silver coins. On May 12, 1980, Fisher’s son Kane discovered a complete section of the Margarita’s wooden hull weighted down by ballast stones, iron cannon balls and artifacts of 17th century Spain.

On July 20, 1985, Kane Fisher, captain of the salvage vessel Dauntless, sent a jubilant message to his father’s headquarters, "Put away the charts; we’ve found the main pile!" Ecstatic crew members described the find as looking like a reef of silver bars. Within days, the shipper’s marks on the bars were matched to the Atocha’s cargo manifest, confirming Kane’s triumphant claim. At long last, the wreck’s "motherlode" had been found -- and the excavation of what was widely referred to as the "shipwreck of the century" began.

Quickly, Duncan Mathewson, Mel Fisher’s chief archaeologist, assembled a team of archaeologists and conservators from across the country to ensure that the artifacts and treasure were excavated and preserved properly. Because the material had lain on the ocean floor for three and a half centuries, much of it was in an extremely unstable state; immediate preservation treatment was required to prevent its destruction after it left its saltwater tomb.

Today artifacts and treasures from the Atocha and Margarita form the cornerstone of the Mel Fisher Maritime Heritage Society Museum’s collection. Among the items found on the wrecks are a fortune in gold, silver bars, and coins destined for the coffers of Spain; a solid gold belt and necklace set with gems; a gold chalice designed to prevent its user from being poisoned; an intricately-tooled gold plate; a gold chain that weighs more than seven pounds; a horde of contraband emeralds -- including an impressive 77.76 carat uncut hexagonal crystal experts have traced to the Muzo mine in Colombia; religious and secular jewelry; and silverware.

With the treasure, and perhaps ultimately more important, were countless articles that provide insight into seventeenth-century life, especially under sail: rare navigational instruments, military armaments, native American objects, tools of various trades, ceramic vessels, galley wares, even seeds and insects. A portion of the Atocha’s lower hull were examined and then recovered to be stored in a protected lagoon at the Florida Keys Community College, making them readily accessible to interested researchers.

Following a long conservation process, the many of the artifacts from the Nuestra Señora de Atocha and Santa Margarita are now on permanent display at the not-for-profit Mel Fisher Maritime Museum. Approximately 200,000 people visit the Key West museum annually to marvel at them -- and applaud the triumph of the human spirit that their recovery represents.

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Re: Post Any Photos of GENUINE Gold Bars Here!!!
« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2011, 08:13:24 AM »
thank you very much for sharing the very informative information from different members, it so very interesting discussion and views shared by everybody, changing ideas and knowledge, god bless and happy treasure hunting.

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« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2011, 08:17:35 AM »
Mel Fisher Museum

Of course, most of us have heard about the quest for gold by the European countries and what they  took in the empires of the Mayans, Incas and Aztecs. Then there were the treasure ships that never made it back home and the treasure hunters that have recently discovered a few of these wrecks. One of these treasure hunters was Mel Fisher who finally found the Spanish ship Itocha that sank near the Florida Keys. There is now a museum and sales shop located on Key West.

Mel Fisher Museum and Sales Shop in 2005

 There were two floors showing a wide variety of artifacts that had been recovered. There was also a gift shop and store where you could purchase certified gold and silver coins that had been recovered, were on consignment or were non-shipwreck.

The few coin prices ranged between $3500 and $20,000. The price depended on the condition, rarity, weight, etc. Some had been mounted with a clasp and chain.

One of the recovered gold bars was on display in an enclosed clear plastic box. A hole in the center allowed you to reach in and actually lift a real piece of the recovered gold. Of course, it is surprisingly heavy.

 

Gold Finger Bars
Recovered from the Spanish Nuestra Senora de Atocha

“216 gold bars, discs and chunks have so far been recovered from the (year 1622) galleons, but there may well be more still waiting to be discovered. Although the cargo manifest recorded the official quantity of gold bars carried on board, many bars were not marked with the royal stamp showing payment of taxes. These were contraband. If caught, the smuggler of a contraband bar could face sentence as a galley slave. Bars like the ones displayed here were called “finger” bars because of their shape, or “boot” bars because they could easily be hidden in a man’s boot.”

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« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2011, 08:25:44 AM »
OKAY GUYS, HERE'S A REAL GOLD NOT TAKEN FROM ANY NET OR WEB SITES, THIS IS TAKEN FROM MY MINING SITE, THOUGH IN GRAMS NOT IN TONS, BUT I AM VERY PROUD OF THIS AS THIS IS MY FRUIT OF LABOR.
A FRUIT THAT BORE OUT OF RESEARCH, DUE DELIGENCE AND AN ACTION BASED ON MY SCIENTIFIC BELIEF.
AT LEAST I FOUND GOLD AND I LIVED AS WHAT I BELIEVED.
MY PROFILE PIC, AND WHEN WE MET THIS IS MY DISTINGUISHING FEATURE,, LOOK CLOSELY....

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« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2011, 08:32:35 AM »
MY PROFILE

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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2011, 08:42:45 AM »
2011 tru 2015 gold price on the Gold market is always BULLISH as in like a roaring Bull!!!,
so to G Boy stop your B.S, your many yaky yakyty talks and do more action of finding your own true gold.
May God Bless you and may you find your own Gold soon so that you may have peace..

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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2011, 09:32:00 AM »
a genuine pictures of assorted sizes and dimension of GOLD BARS

thanks,

TS

Those gold bars are treasure that was recovered from the SS Central America. Story brief as follows below;

In September 1857 the side-wheel steamer SS Central America was loaded at Panama with 578 passengers and over $1.6 million dollars (1857 value) in California 49ers gold coins, ingots and other forms, bound for New York.

On Sept. 12th, after battling a major storm and suffering from serious water leakage for over 72 hours, the Central America sank with a loss of about 425 lives. Only 153 persons were saved.

The ship came to rest in the cold darkness 8,000 feet below the surface, about 160 miles from Charleston, South Carolina. In the hull of the vessel was a vast treasure of gold coins and ingots which would remain there for some 131 years until discovered and salvaged by the Columbus-America Discovery Group in 1988.

The largest specimen of the Central America’s treasure is the prized 10 1/2” long “Eureka” bar weighing in at 933 ounces (over 80 pounds). The Eureka bar is stamped with an 1857 currency value of $17,433.57. The historical significance of this monetary ingot is evidenced as the Eureka bar was acquired for a record US$8,000,000 price!

In all, ingots weighing from 5 ounces to 80 pounds and more then 7,000 gold coins ($1, $2.50, $5, $10, $20 and $50 denominations) were recovered from the ocean depths. To date over 5,000 coins and ingots have been sold via auction and online bringing in over US$150 Million.

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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2011, 01:33:12 PM »
Ya, you get it Tony, sometimes i got mixed up, so i am right at first that the loads is an American treasure.