Post Any Photos of GENUINE Gold Bars Here!!!

[coolfun125]

This is Genuine Burma Bar, 6.2 which my friend took a picture of.

[coolfun125]

Now, this one is a FAKE Burma bar.  Notice that the quality of the make is much poorer. It also has the Anchor sign which I have seen in many fake bars circulating in Mindanao from a syndicate of fake bar makers.

[raquel_lyks]

that was cool find of your friend cf125...

Raqz

[coolfun125]

Now, this is how Genuine SUMATRA Bars look like.  Again, notice the quality of the bars.

[coolfun125]

Fake Cambodia bar, again with the Anchor sign of the mindanao syndicate

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Real cambodia, though picture is not very clear here since the photo was scanned and image quality was not too good.

[DINDO BAYAUA]

Per experience, gold bars does not acquire any stain or rush marks. It may become dull in color after exposure to the elements but it can easily be brushed off after putting it in extreme heat or drop a nitric acid in it. 

[Janner]

i will reply on the "Genuine 6.2 bar"

the bar itself is just a little to "Square" for my liking....

various "corrosion" marks are present and even the corners "eaten" away by, as well the the name letters...

lots of "discoloration" there, and as said by T44 gold doesn't do this at all...perhaps dull and "yellowy" but not "discolored"

so if i was asked to give an opinion on this, i would say it was NOT a real gold bar.

sorry.

[admin]

i will reply on the "Genuine 6.2 bar"

the bar itself is just a little to "Square" for my liking....

various "corrosion" marks are present and even the corners "eaten" away by, as well the the name letters...

lots of "discoloration" there, and as said by T44 gold doesn't do this at all...perhaps dull and "yellowy" but not "discolored"

so if i was asked to give an opinion on this, i would say it was NOT a real gold bar.

sorry.

I agree. I am almost 100% SURE that Burma 999.9 bar is NOT Genuine.
TW

[benvalmores]

100% its fake, discoloration is a result from oxidation and gold is not affected in any way of oxidation.
Please, to all of you who request for comments open up your mind and don't just select or expect every answers to be favorable to what you would like to hear for sometimes truth hurts.

If you only want to hear comments that is only good to your ears, then you won't be learning.
In this type of interest, we have a nemesis in which we should guard ourselves and never fell prey unto it, it's this what we called "GOLD FEVER".
If we got hit by it, all of our common sense is lost, then everything would be lost as one will lost oneself, his directions and ways, his plans and future and everything will be lost.

Ben, you have opened a separate topic say the exact same thing as here, so not to confuse everyone i have removed it....
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Janner

[benvalmores]

A THOUSAND WORDS

Do you think we were the only ones who got preoccupied with gold treasures? Look at this extremely busy lady. (Please refer to the attached photos below).  She went to the same place we went to, and sat on the same bed, leaned on the pillows inside the tiny room of this "gold holder".  She must have been awed as were by the stories, signs and pictures the buried treasures.

Nope, the gold bars were not shown to her at that time.  She saw pictures of the gold bars as we have seen their pictures.  (I have the picture in my file, but the pictures are too dark.)  But for this important person to travel more than five hours to know more about Marcos gold and all, she must have been intrigued by the stories.  Looking at this picture with her Secretary for the Department of Social Services and Development, we can tell they were listening intently, awed, mesmerized!  The fact is, their stories are often fascinating.


Here is another interesting picture of the bars I personally saw, touched, weighed and where my small samples of gold pieces came from.  The first time I saw the bars was in the back of the Toyota Tamaraw FX.  We had to be seated at the front seats to protect their gold from us.  We could extend ourselves down to the back and hold the bars, quite a difficult position, but that was the closest they would allow us to come near to their gold bars.  The holders are often so neurotic over their gold, we had to go along with their so called "procedure".  They are always concern about procedures and system that even if you offer a large amount just to see the gold, they will not.  They have to examine you, test you, try you out, before they would allow you to see their holdings.

There was this weighing scale the holder lifted up, put it to zero or the arrow pointing to the center, while we placed the bar on it.  I asked my friend Martha (not her real name here) who claimed she is an expert to be with me.  She has been gold hunting for several years.  We were only about 2 months into it.  We weighed the bar but was not exactly 6.2 kilos.  In fact it was only about 6.1 kilos. It is tapered, and in size when we measured the bar it was about 2" x 6.2" at the top, a little less than 3" x 6.5" at the bottom, and about 1.25" in thickness. The color is much more dull and rather rough compared to the fake picture I showed at the beginning of this page. The bottom by the way is not totally flat and not levelled well.       

Now, when we started, I paid P3,000 as down payment to pay for the gasoline and the "aunt of the owner".  The arrangement was I would pay them an additional amount on a staggered basis should I assess for myself the bars to be true and have the small pieces tested by jewellers.  If I am not convinced that the bars were real gold, then I don't have to pay them anything more.
An enlarged picture. There are different markings of buried treasures.  What I saw twice was Burma with three stars.             

We bore a hole through the Burma bar that we weighed and measured.  I agreed when the "gold holder" said he would bore through one particular bar that we weighed.  Otherwise, several bars will have plenty of holes if everyone would be allowed to choose any bar at random.  I agreed because it was measured to the right size and weighed almost 6.2 kilos.  I presumed not all bars would be exactly to the exact weight.

To me, it was an exciting moment to hold the few pieces gold in my hands.  I was the one who unwound it around the drill bit.  I knew it was real which was confirmed when Norman when he tested it with his gold tester using the manual system, rubbing it on a dark smooth stone, pouring a high concentrate of nitric acid on it and comparing the color with the different gold karats which he would rub just beside the sample.  Our gold looked higher than 22 karat gold!   

Quite frankly when I felt I would be paying more if I were convinced, I wanted to get the most out of my money.  I asked that we take a picture of the gold inside the Tamaraw.  These gold holders are somewhat neurotic and terribly suspicious, he vehemently objected to the idea afraid that we will take pictures of him and the lady aunt sitting at the back of the van.

Instead, they asked for pictures of my family and took pictures of the bars with our pictures in it. This gold holders have their hide-out somewhere in Cavite but we could never get a hint where in Cavite is it.  So, I gave them the wedding picture of my eldest son and of my husband.  Unfortunately, I lost the original copies of the  pictures to some friends who borrowed them to show-off to their buyers.  Back then, it did not seem so important to have the original pictures, until this blog.

Posted by Mariejo Belo Yotoko Benares

[admin]

Wow.. interesting story indeed. Hey, is that GMA in that first photo???
TW

[benvalmores]

EXACTLY  That's the ex President of our Republic
The whole family of her's are into this interest too and had been successful for they have their hoards of gold bars too.

please refer to the copy pasted page 251 in the book GOLD WARRIORS book by Sterling Seagraves.....,

E P I L O G U E

CONFLICT OF INTEREST

In March 2001, only weeks into the new Bush Administration, two U.S. Navyships
arrived in the Philippines carrying teams of SEAL commandos. According to a source
at the U.S. Embassy, they were sent to the Philippines to recover gold as part of a plan
to enlarge America’s reserves. This gold, the embassy source said, would come from
two places: – New excavations of Yamashita Gold vaults, and the purchase (at a deep
discount) of Japanese loot already recovered and held in private vaults by wealthy
Filipinos. One of the two ships sailed on to Mindanao to take on a load of bullion
the embassy source said was owned by the family of the new president, Gloria
Macapagal Arroyo. President Bush, the source said, was ‘being aggressive’.

The buzz among gold hunters in Luzon was that associates of President Bush and
his family were privately in the market to buy some of the bullion still being recovered
from Golden Lily sites. One of the names being dropped by goldbugs in
Manila was that of East Texas oil billionaire William Stamps Farish, an intimate
friend and fishing companion of the Bush family. Will Farish, who raises horses in
Kentucky and is board chairman of Churchill Downs where the Kentucky Derby is
staged, had just been nominated by President Bush to be America’s new ambassador
to the Court of St. James’s, where he was a personal friend of Queen Elizabeth.
The buzz had special resonance because Will Farish is said to be the manager of
President Bush’s blind trust.

It should come as no surprise that yet another U.S. president may be taking an
interest in Japanese plunder, while shielding Japan’s biggest corporations from lawsuits
by POWs and other victims. Every president since Harry Truman has been
involved in covering up the looting and the slush funds. Even Jimmy Carter played
a role, becoming a personal friend of the great fixer, Sasakawa, who was up to his
knees in dog-tags.

Bluntly put, the terrible secret is that for over half a century some officials of the
U.S. Government – not least of them Nixon – greatly advanced their careers by
receiving stolen goods, made unscrupulous use of covert funds, and continue to

[admin]

Very interesting!
TW

[Elyong]

Sirs,

Would this be considered as the real ww2 Hongkong Gold Bars?

Best regards,