Maskara,
This is indoy.jones. I'm just new to the Au stuff but i have had my share of good and bad experiences, including seeing fake bars in far-flung places, north and south of the Philipines, and negotiating with lots of brokers and agents referring holders whom mostly turned out to be scam artists.
I am also the one who provided information about scammers in this site based on the personal experiences of my partner and myself.
What I have to offer right now is a possible legitimate and genuine source in cagayan de oro city, wherein the trustee of the holder has been given the go-signal by the holder for a test buy of 5 pcs of 6.2 bars. Nest tranche will be 15 bars of 6.2 kg, then roll-over of 1 ton per lifting.
You could perform whatever assay procedure you want to check the genuineness of the item.
However, please be reminded that the holders have had also their bad experiences with local and foreign buyers, the latest of which is an American who is based in the Philippines, RAndell Coleman. This guy is pretty well-known here in the Philippines and based on the stories I have heard is quite aggressive as he is very much willing to go anywhere where the Au bars are located.
In the case of my new contact, Mr. Coleman tested the bars but failed to come up with the payment, according to the trustee. Thus, sore feelings and wasted efforts and resources on the part of the holder.
To be frank and truthful about this transaction, my first contact who is based in venezuela and fronting for a Dubai Buyer, requested for pictures with a newspaper and a placard showing the name of the buyer. The holder took a picture as required last 22 September 2009 of a Cambodia 74.6 kg bar.
I encountered a problem with my present buyers relative to documentation of the Au Bars, since they plan to lilft it by a private chartered plane which will land at cagayan de oro city AP. They suggested that a safe house in the city be rented where the items will be brought for assay and delivery by the holder. However, i dont know any broker who will prepare the documentation of these bars.
If you are interested, I could provide the necessary data you need. I will even let you talk to the trustee personally to get the facts straight. Your manifestation of interest to bring in your bank officer, assayer and private plane will suit the requirements for this deal.
Thanks and more power.
TW,
Is the sumatra and burma 6.2 bar are exactly the same size? It should be right if they have already established a standard size during that time.
My problem here is not only the genuineness of the Au but they did not show yet the whole stack/inventory of the loot, that I cannot understand, if they have the whole lot then why can't they show pics of them all while they can released photos of 2 bars or even show 10pcs then I will be satisfied they may be serious.
The modus operandi of scammers is to show 1 or 2 pcs then they will say pay for 1 bar and they will show the rest and they are very good at switching when exchanging commence.
So far there is no sign and indication yet for deposit money or operation expense. They just insist that I come to them and meet in a neutral place (Bank) to see and assay the Au in their presence. This seem safe but I do not know their real motive is they might change their rules once I am at their mercy.
If they could show POP then I'll bring my bank officer, assayer and a chartered private plane.
Another group in another place also made an offer but they ask for P80 T for transportation and operational expense of 5 people to relocate the Au's. We offered them instead a chartered plane and a safe conduct pass to bring in at least 5 pieces, they said they have to ask their group leaders of the plan but so far no word from them yet.
