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Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 06, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
Angel brother,
there is no such thing as nickel babbit in the Philippines this was another sales pitch of Pinoy Fraud and unsuspecting traders (mostly advertising in the internet) E-commerce.

Nickel Babbit actually originated in the US a company put up the processing plant but commercially it did not materialized. The casting form was found it's way in the Philippines, somebody would like to put a plant but also never did go through.
Somehow again Pinoy creativity found its way in the black market and start making rumors of large amount of cache found in Mindanao caves full of Nickel Babbit "XXXX" bars. (4-"X's" is the trade sign in bars) see image below.
Actually this metal is manufactured in several other ways and there is no such thing as nickel babbit manufactured in it's purest form.
They are mixtures of different alloys to suit it's purposed, in different kinds of bearing.

See below references what i mean of the possibility of manufacturing Nickel Babbit in the Philippines. but mostly they are claimed as discoveries like Yam treasure.


Babbitt
refers to a bearing alloy consisting typically of tin, lead, antimony, and copper. "XXXX Nickel" is a trade name for such an alloy that also contains a small percentage of nickel.

Babbit as a bearing material
Isaac Babbitt was issued the first patent for an alloy that was excellent for making bearings. The word Babbitt has been applied to many alloys involving similar substituents. Babbitts easily change their shape to conform to bearing shafts and will retain a lubricated surface film. Particulate matter not transported away by the lubricant is embedded harmlessly in the sub-surface. This is due to its hard/soft composition. Babbitts high in tin content, consist of a relatively soft, solid matrix of tin in which are distributed hard copper-tin and tin-antimony cuboids. Babbits are often employed as a thin surface coating to obtain the advantage of their good rubbing characteristics.

Babbitt metal, also called white metal, is an alloy used to provide the bearing surface in a plain bearing.

It was invented in 1839 by Isaac Babbitt[1] in Taunton, Massachusetts, USA. The term is used today to describe a series of alloys used as a bearing metal. Babbitt metal is characterized by its resistance to galling.
Common compositions for Babbitt alloys:
   90% tin, 10% copper
   89% tin, 7% antimony, 4% copper
   80% lead, 15% antimony, 5% tin
Originally used as a cast in place bulk bearing material, it is now more commonly used as a thin surface layer in a complex, multi metal structure.
Babbitt metal is soft and easily damaged, and seems at first sight an unlikely candidate for a bearing surface, but this appearance is deceptive. The structure of the alloy is made up of small hard crystals dispersed in a matrix of softer alloy. As the bearing wears the harder crystal is exposed, with the matrix eroding somewhat to provide a path for the lubricant between the high spots that provide the actual bearing surface.

Alternative bearings

In many applications, rolling-element bearings, such as ball or roller bearings, have replaced Babbitt bearings. Though such bearings can offer a lower coefficient of friction than plain bearings, their key advantage is that they can operate reliably without a continuous pressurized supply of lubricant. Ball and roller bearings can also be used in configurations that are required to carry both radial and axial thrusts. However, rolling-element bearings lack the beneficial damping and shock-load capability provided by fluid-film bearings, such as the Babbitt.
A wide variety of Babbitt alloys exist, such as:
   A lead-based based Babbitt (75% lead, 10% tin)
   A copper-lead based Babbitt (76% copper, 24% lead)
   A copper-lead-tin based Babbitt composed of (67% copper, 28% tin)


Example of Pinoy sales pitch found in the internet:


Date: 17.02.2006
Product name: XXXX Nickel Babbitt Alloy
Country of origin: Philippines
Product description:
Specifications:

A large volume of XXXX Nickel Babbitt Bars was uncovered and presently in stock pile inside a bunker within the Mindanao area.

Others claim it must be lead and not nickel. But in any case, both metal elements have commercial value and highly sough for.

There is also the possibility of more precious metal commodity hidden deep inside the bunker. This is only possible to uncover if we move out and dispose of these metal bars first. Regardless of this however, the volume of metal bars visibly and physically available is more than sufficient enough to generously reward all parties involve.

We are inviting you to be part of this party and we guarantee you financial reward of unimaginable proportions in comparison to your modest funding. We are offering 12% commission incentive from the total gross sales of the inventoried 20,000 metric tones of nickel babbitt bars.

Our XXXX Nickel Babbitt Alloy comply with International Quality Standards and their quality and durability are fully guranteed.

OR.......

We have commodity nickel babbit xxxx lead metal 1. 2 kgs to 2. 2 kgs in bar form bunker take over operation
Initial delivery 100, 000 metric tons per order and roll-over scheme for the next orders volume 40 million pieces selling price is
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on August 06, 2009, 10:05:19 PM
MasKara,
Wow.. we all appreciate that detailed explanation about Nickel Babbitt in the Philippines. That was great.
TW
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 06, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Maskara my bro,

it is true that nickle babbit originated from USA, and this name is a trademark. And the word babbit came from the surname of Isaac Babbit. But this material is commonly used in the Philippines and a well oriented engine rebuilder usually use this material in "rebabbitting" their bearings.
Bearings of most reciprocating engines usually use "babbit" material. The reason is for the easily matching of the crankshaft against ithe bearing surface. It can be machined up to 1/10,000 of an inch or for more crude method, by means of scraper. Bearings we are using for engine, say Toyota, is a babbit lined bearing.
Most sellers of this babbit don't have any idea where this material came from, how it is used ... and regarding the price, it is taken from internet as a reference. They only advertized it the way it was advertized to them...by the originator.
This material is very common in most ship facilities, although considered as controlled material, some can still smuggled it outside the facility.
I suspect that an original cast of this babbit where they pattern all the existing duplicate came from Subic Bay, because this facility is consuming hundreds of kilos of babbit during the Vietnam war....repairing propulsion engines, engines for generators, and all other applications.
Or.... it is possible that these mateials including other metal ingots such as bronze, copper, iron, monel, stainless steel and others were all purposely carried by American ships during WW2 as repair materials for their ships.

It may be also true that on the opposite side, the Japanese navy also bring these type of materials in form of ingots to serve also for the same purposes.

These materials in big volume can be considerd as treasure, but since some hunters are more "conditioned" to gold and platinum, these items were all neglected thinking as "of no value"....

Angel_09
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 07, 2009, 03:09:19 AM
Maskara my bro,

it is true that nickle babbit originated from USA, and this name is a trademark. And the word babbit came from the surname of Isaac Babbit. But this material is commonly used in the Philippines and a well oriented engine rebuilder usually use this material in "rebabbitting" their bearings.
Bearings of most reciprocating engines usually use "babbit" material. The reason is for the easily matching of the crankshaft against ithe bearing surface. It can be machined up to 1/10,000 of an inch or for more crude method, by means of scraper. Bearings we are using for engine, say Toyota, is a babbit lined bearing.
Most sellers of this babbit don't have any idea where this material came from, how it is used ... and regarding the price, it is taken from internet as a reference. They only advertized it the way it was advertized to them...by the originator.
This material is very common in most ship facilities, although considered as controlled material, some can still smuggled it outside the facility.
I suspect that an original cast of this babbit where they pattern all the existing duplicate came from Subic Bay, because this facility is consuming hundreds of kilos of babbit during the Vietnam war....repairing propulsion engines, engines for generators, and all other applications.
Or.... it is possible that these mateials including other metal ingots such as bronze, copper, iron, monel, stainless steel and others were all purposely carried by American ships during WW2 as repair materials for their ships.

It may be also true that on the opposite side, the Japanese navy also bring these type of materials in form of ingots to serve also for the same purposes.

These materials in big volume can be considerd as treasure, but since some hunters are more "conditioned" to gold and platinum, these items were all neglected thinking as "of no value"....

Angel_09

Bro, I do not know where you got your analogy that to repair a ship you need metal alloys not the pre manufactured spare parts of Engines etc.

It's like saying i have spare parts of my car composed of metal alloys, If my engine broke i will mold these metals to form as brake pads or Engine block.. Do you think the American and the Japs bring with them the whole manufacturing plants in the battle field?

Correct me if I am wrong you conclude that these metal alloys where also concealed in big volumes by the Japs for latter retreaval. I do not see the logic. Please explain maybe I am missing something.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 07, 2009, 09:57:59 AM
My bro,

Specifically, babbit is used for bearings, as bearing lining. It is the white metal we can see on the split bearings use for crankshaft from 2" up to larger diameter crankshaft or shaft. This material was never used as any other parts of the engine except for the bearings. (as far as I know). We all know that  in an engine, there are main bearings, con-rod bearings and camshaft bearings, and these bearings are all split type, steel back and babbitt lined bearings. (except some camshaft bearing w/c is aluminum alloy lined by babbit)
In naval ships, The propulsion shaft is resting in what we called pedestal bearings, in which the thickness if babbitt lining is approximately up to 0.500 of an inch or less, and are positioned to the length of the shaft to support its weight. inside the propulsion engine, specially the older type using with cross head type pistons, bearing used are also split type, for easier removal, repair or replacement. Sometimes if they run out of bearings (if they have breakdown) they reuse the bearing by taking off the babbit lining and pouring a new babbit, machine it and fit it as a recon bearing.
On board ship, it is a complete engineering facility. They have machine shop, with most of the lathe machines, milling machines, and others..they can even manufacture piston rings and any other spare parts.
They also have electrical shop, for all electrical work and such.
During world war 2, a ship can't stay at high seas if it doesn't have any engineering support within. Although there are spares onboard, these are considered as contigency components in a worst case scenario.
JApanese taken over the Subic bay facility during the war, and this facility must have raw materials to produce spare parts as ship's components; split bearings for propulsion ship, main engine, all drive engine w/c always need spare bearings and are babbit lined.

Regarding its volume, I'm not sure how much they bring in here in the Phil., but I'm sure they brought some where the "Philippine babbit manufacturer" used as samples.

BTW, in Subic, there was an area that they call "disposal",...in here all unused precious  materials are gathered and are disposed thru bidding, or sometimes sending it back to CONUS. Would you believe if I tell you that they have precious metals section in  this place? They have platinum, gold (not the usual platinum/gold in bars) silver, babbit and other they considered precious....

Angel_09
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gener on August 08, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
Very educational subject,,,,I learning a lot from you guys! Thanks and proven that you guys are simply having a lot of research...Keep up with your very interesting subjects,,,you deserved appreciation plaques....I wonder if how i can provide each one of you? THANK YOU...
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 08, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
the truth is: Bro Maskara  and our other colleauge are very good stimulators. They can squezze those frozen information  out of our nutshells. But for me it is very stimulating...I love brain storming...My brothers....

Angel_09
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 09, 2009, 10:29:53 PM
While waiting for the awarding of the plaque of appreciation, we could already bestow our brothers MasKara and Angel_09 the title "PROFESSOR"  ;D Keep it up Profs! Your wide knowledge and research will help us learn a lot!
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 09, 2009, 11:22:39 PM
Amen to that my friend but the truth is we are all learning from each other all of us are the "PROFESSOR".
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 09, 2009, 11:42:06 PM
Bros,

Each and everyone of us have our own share of the pie. Just like a peso, it will not be completed if there  are missing centavos.

Angel_09
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 10, 2009, 09:21:26 PM
Professors,
My friend called me today that he has a sample of a nickel babbit. there engraved on the bar the following:
FEDERATED METAL DIVISION / AMERICAN SMELTING AND REFINING COMPANY. He wants me to send the sample for assay. Can you comment on this?
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on August 10, 2009, 09:28:12 PM
Professors,
My friend called me today that he has a sample of a nickel babbit. there engraved on the bar the following:
FEDERATED METAL DIVISION / AMERICAN SMELTING AND REFINING COMPANY. He wants me to send the sample for assay. Can you comment on this?

Cap Miwa,
That's the exact same material that MasKara already posted the photos and info on here in one of the above post. Have a look at the photo above to see what these bars look like. I also had a couple of these bars passed to me when I was in the Philippines last time. I think they are floating around everywhere there.
TW
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 10, 2009, 10:48:22 PM
Professors,
My friend called me today that he has a sample of a nickel babbit. there engraved on the bar the following:
FEDERATED METAL DIVISION / AMERICAN SMELTING AND REFINING COMPANY. He wants me to send the sample for assay. Can you comment on this?

I am sure there is no Federal Metal Division in USA but there are comanies named Federal Metal and they have Metal divisions.

 
Babbit As A Bearing Material

In 1839, Isaac Babbitt received the first patent for a white metal alloy that showed excellent bearing properties. Since then, the name babbitt has been used for other alloys involving similar ingredients. Babbitts offer an almost unsurpassed combination of compatibility, comfirmability, and embedability. They easily adapt their shapes to comform to the bearing shaft and will hold a lubricnt film. Foreign matter not carried away by the lubrication is embedded below the surface and rendered hamless. These characteristics are due to babbitt's hard/soft composition. High-tim babbitts, for example, consist of a relatively soft, solid matrix of tin in which are distributed hard copper-tin needles and tin-antimony cuboids. This provides for "good run-in" which means the bearing will adsorb a lubricant on the surface and hold the lubricant film. Even under severe operating conditions, where high loads, fatigue problems, or high temperature dictate the use of other stronger materials, babbits are often employed as a thin surface coating to obtain the advantage of their good rubbing characteristics.

Genuine Nickel Babbitt

Nickel Babbitt is the result of over sixty years constant effort to produce the best bearing alloy, regardless of cost. Today it stands supreme in the field of high-grade bearing metals. It is made only of carefully selected virgin materials and each element is subjected to scientific treatment during the alloying process.

Nickel Babbitt lasts longer under severe service, because,


It holds the oil film
It pours freely and fills all liner crevices
It's anti-frictional
It cannot cut the shaft
It resists high temperatures
It has high thermal conductivity

Nickel Babbitt is recommended for use in:

Blowers                     
Dredges                   
Lumber Mills             
Rock and Gravel Machinery
Cement Mills             
Electrical machinery           
Marine Service                     
Steel Mills     
Clay Working Machinery                 
Electric Railroads               
Mining Machinery                 
Sugar Mills   
Compressors                       
Engines, Internal Combustion                     
Paper Mills               
Turbines       
Crushers                   
Engines, Steam                   
Pumps


High Grade Nickel Babbits (Lead-Based) Composition: (Preferred by buyers)

Lead (Pb) 99.7%
Tin (Sn) 0.24%[/b][/color]

Brother Cap, if you have this composition (alloy) in the metal you have then you can sell it to the above enumerated manufacturers or industries.

Good Luck



 

Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 11, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
Bros,

These are additional info in support to Bro. Maskara.

                    Tin Based Alloys - Chemical Composition (%) Chart

INDUSTRY NAME   ASTM B23         Sn             Sb                        Cu                       Pb
                                                 (Tin)              (Antimony)                       (Copper)                (Lead)
Marine 11 D     -               90.0 - 92.0           4.5 - 5.5                    3.5 - 4.5      0.35 (Max)
No. 1               Grade 1        90.0 - 92.0         4.0 - 5.0                    4.0 - 5.0         0.35 (Max)
Marine 11R     -        89.0 - 89.5         7.5 - 8.5                    2.5 - 3.0      0.35 (Max)
Nickel Genuine   Grade 2        88.0 - 90.0         7.0 - 8.0                    3.0 - 4.0      0.35 (Max)
Marine 11     -        88.0 - 90.0         5.5 - 6.0                    5.0 - 5.5      0.35 (Max)
4X Royal Nickel  Genuine   -    87.5 - 89.5         7.25-7.75                    3.25 -3.75      0.35 (Max)
Diesel Special   -        87.5 - 88.0         6.5 - 7.0                     5.0 - 6.0      0.35 (Max)
No. 11              Grade 11        86.0 - 89.0         6.0 - 7.5                     5.0 - 6.5      0.35 (Max)
SAE 11       -        85.0 - 87.0         7.0 - 8.0                     6.0 - 7.0      0.35 (Max)
Imperial Genuine   -        85.0 - 87.0         6.5 - 7.5                     6.5 - 7.5      0.35 (Max)
Turbine   -                     84.0 - 86.0         6.5 - 7.5                     7.5 - 8.5      0.35 (Max)
Royal Armature   -        83.5 - 84.0         8.0 - 8.5                     7.5 - 8.5      0.35 (Max)
Super Tough      Grade 3        83.0 - 85.0         7.5 - 8.5                      7.5 - 8.5      0.35 (Max)

Maximum Allowable Impurities:      Fe=0.08, As=0.10, Bi=0.08, Zn=0.005, Al=0.005, Cd=0.05
 
                                        Lead Based Alloys - Chemical Composition (%) Chart

INDUSTRY NAME    ASTM B23    Sn        Sb                  Pb                     As        
                                                     (Tin)       (Antimony)          (Lead)             (Arsenic)
No. 13                 Grade 13              5.5 - 6.5     9.5 - 10.5   Balance            0.25 (Max)
Mill Anchor       -             4.0 - 6.0   11.5 - 12.5   Balance            0.25 (Max)
Durite                Grade 15             0.8 - 1.2   14.5 - 17.5   Balance             0.8 - 1.4
Star                    -             5.0 - 5.5   13.5 - 14.5   Balance            0.30 - 0.60
Silverstone       -             1.0 - 3.0   17.5 - 18.5   Balance            0.25 (Max)
Royal                Grade 8             4.5 - 5.5   14.0 - 16.0   Balance          0.30 - 0.60
Heavy Pressure   Grade 7             9.3 - 10.7   14.0 - 16.0   Balance            0.30 - 0.60
Special Sawguide   -             9.0 - 11.0   18.5 - 19.5   Balance          0.25 (Max)

Maximum Allowable Impurities:     Cu=0.50, Fe=0.10, Bi=0.10, Zn=0.005, Al=0.005, Cd=0.05

First, determine what type of babbit they are selling, then determine the metal price of higher concentration. If there are really big volume of these, you can make money out of it. Just make sure the price will not exceed the prevailing market price.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 11, 2009, 12:17:59 AM
Sell them off market as SCARP METAL as is no assay to make it simple, let the buyer do the rest. still you will make a big profit.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 11, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
I'm just wondering why my friend calls them nickel babbit or is that the term they (traders) only use to identify it from other commodities they are looking for. My friend asked me to have it assayed for its metal content but told me that he specifically want to know the PD content of that sample. He said he already have the buyer but wanted to know the content before doing so. He will buy this metal from the holder at a price per kilo they already discussed after knowing the percentage of the PD content. and then, he will sell this to his buyer already waiting for this commodity. In otherwords, a middleman businessman hahaha. i just say goodluck to him.

Another metal was handed to me earlier by another friend while i was up north and asked me again to have it assayed, i did made an assay initially and found out that it is Pb. they have several tons stock of these. But before it was assayed by a licensed company, the items were already sold.

American Smelting and Refining Company  (ASARCO) is still existing but i'm not sure how they have this kind of metals and now it came into the philippines. Perhaps the war has something to do with it, or might have been imported years after.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 11, 2009, 01:19:54 PM
If you are wondering why all this metals showed up in the Philippines;
Pb = lead
lead = bullets

Now you know why they carry lead it has a lot of uses and in time of war you need a lot of lead for manufacturing bullets.

During the British and French war in America some officials of the both armies have lapel pins or small pins this pins are made of lead and one melted pin is equal to one musket bullet.

See the logic? pretty simple.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 11, 2009, 01:33:33 PM
the "nickel babbit" this time, my friend wants to know if it contains certain percentage of Pd and other metals in it that's why he wants it assayed.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on August 11, 2009, 02:44:56 PM
If those metals you have came during war time then I conclude they are Lead base alloy, that's why I said that lead = bullets , LEAD is the dominant combination.

That's also why Angel said that in order to determine the price of your metal you should base it on the concentration or dominant alloy not as nickel babbit.

They call it nickel babbit, "xxxx" or 4x as trade name.

Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 11, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
my friend meant Pd, Palladium not Pb (lead)
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gener on August 11, 2009, 09:11:41 PM
Havent seen this nickle babbit myself? i have seen the carbofraux,,,a type of hard black sands that glued together....
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: indoy.jones on August 13, 2009, 11:32:46 AM
We are more inclined to believed middle men or agents who is willing to make several test buys in small quantities like 10, 32 grams to 1/4 and 1/2 bars then if they really have what they claim, they will not hesitate to do 1, 2, 3 bars at a time until both parties are confident enough to do the big volume buy. This is the only way to know how serious and honest the seller is if they have what they claim are metric tons in hand and avoid being scammed. we met a lot of agents and middle men. We encourage them to meet the buyers and have a TTM to subject them to seven point questionnaire if they pass we move to test buying and most of the time after the first meeting they disappear. They do not want to hand down their sample even if we pay it after assay they back out meaning they cannot produced what they are selling or what they have is just a piece for show off to unsuspecting buyers middle men or agent.

On the other side buyers agent claim they have big time buyer they try to lure the seller or agents seller to give them a piece of the bar but most of the time these agents can't even produced the buyer in time so these lead both of them just wasting time or trying to scam each other.

So it is to our disadvantage that the buyer will go as far as to entertain personally agents seller and explain them our process and show them documents of our business bullion SEC license, we discourage them in the first meeting to bring the bars and pay as you go trading. We suggest instead we have a serious talk first then decide if both parties are capable and trust worthy. Then proceed to the next step.

Hi guys.  Has anybody encountered an individual named "RUFINO AYSON" aka "LIWAY"?  I received a text message from him asking if I was buying gold. I asked him where he got my cell number and he told me if a knew a certain Dominic.  I said dominic who?  and he started texting me the text messages that i sent to my friend dominic.

Thereafter, He offered my Cambodia Burma and Sumatra and was willing to meet me at Jolibee Tungko, San Jose del Monte, Bulacan.  The catch:  He is asking for 8K pesos for gasoline.  I asked him if I could meet him at his house or to give me his full address and told me he is not from Manila.

 I have ignored him since  until just a few days ago when a text message coming from this Liway asking me about the status of our deal.  what deal? I said. He said, "the Au deal and the 8k gasoline allowance".  I told him my principal does not give money to agents and that was the only time he ceased texting me.  This is the cellular number he is using to send me text messages: 0916-7535247.

I really appreciate all the info from you guys....more power to all of you.
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on August 13, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
Indoy Jones,

Since the link between you and this Rufino Ayson is your friend Dominic, I think he can give you more solid information on how he gets your cell phone number. These are some probabilities you will need to consider:

1. Your friend Dominic knows Rufino ayson.
2. Dominic mentioned to "someone" about you as a gold buyer, and this someone mentioned it to Rufino Ayson.
3. If your friend Dominic do not know this Rufino Ayson, a "group of people" have a listing of "gold buyers" or "connected to gold buying" and chose your name randomly.
4. If this Ayson is stranger to you and to Dominic, then be careful, because they know who you are, what you do, and how much you worth.

In my opinion, there are no LEGITIMATE AU  in the market AT PRESENT, what are circulating nowadays are all fake AU.

Angel_09
Title: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: cap miwa on August 13, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
Back to nickel babbit... we have stock in the Philippines, mined and processed in the Philippines, even before the japanese invaded us. China, before even japanese came, already were mining somewhere in the eastern side of the Philippine archipelago, americans came, then japanese came and they took over it, then the americans came again. There are two types in the stock, the lead-carbon and the lead-tin... not so much familiar with its terms... but there is available and can be arranged if anyone is interested to buy it.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: romblonhunter on October 04, 2009, 11:37:32 AM
I can confirm based on personal experience that there are scammers in Mindanao offerring nickel babbit. They will tell you that they have 5million tons of nickel in a cave.. then will ask mobilization money if you want to buy. 10pesos per kilo and ask downpayment for 5 tons.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: indoy.jones on December 05, 2009, 12:33:20 AM
Bros.,

From the recent story I heard, capt miwa is correct. Since my team will implement a 20ton deal of lead based nb in davao, let is see if this is hoax of true.  Our seller has not required any mobilization from our group and we will take pictures of the bunker .....lets see....I will inform you guys...especially my friend...maskara.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: MasKara on December 05, 2009, 12:52:39 AM
Wish you luck and success my friend IndoyJones, I'm always at your side, keep us updated.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on December 05, 2009, 02:16:42 AM
Indy,
I just HOPE that we don't read about you in the news afterwards that you got KIDNAPPED or something like that.
Good luck to you!
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on March 18, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
hello all hunters,

   im ronvil from Caraga region, mindanao i have picture of nickel babbit  bunker  along coastline area..i want some comments and ideas of this picture??...

Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 19, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
Ronvil,

Did you actually see any Nickel Babbitt bars stacked inside that bunker?

TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on March 20, 2010, 07:12:11 AM
Grettings from Phillippines!!!

No, But the father of my bestfriend saw and touch an actual nickel bubbit before the breather of the bunker collapse. They got morethan 50 pieces bar of nickel bubbit. But they disregard it becuase they thought it has no value metal. Until they heard and know some buyer of about nickel bubbit.

Here are some photos of the site.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 20, 2010, 09:56:22 AM
So what's the story now? If you already know the entrance of the cave why can't you enter it?
Tony
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on March 20, 2010, 10:35:24 AM
If  you notice the entrance covered by rocks and white cement. 8 years ago The faTher of my friend enter the breather of the cave and now because of heavy rains the soil collapsed in the breather area....

Is there a posibility that if we enter the cave is there a poison inside or any danger?

heres the picture of the entrance that covered by white cement.

thanks for your reply TW hope you can help me.

Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 20, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Ronvil,

From your photo there we can all see that you're a handsome guy! haha..

OK so now the entrance is covered with cement. So do you know WHO suddenly did that since your father had entered there?

Definitely the air inside may be to breath so you would need to wear a portable breather and it would be nice to blow it out for several hours before entering there without any portable breathing apparatus.

TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: t_hunter44 on March 21, 2010, 06:22:52 AM
If  you notice the entrance covered by rocks and white cement. 8 years ago The faTher of my friend enter the breather of the cave and now because of heavy rains the soil collapsed in the breather area....

Is there a posibility that if we enter the cave is there a poison inside or any danger?

heres the picture of the entrance that covered by white cement.

thanks for your reply TW hope you can help me.


I suppose what they are referring to as breather is an air shaft but why an air shaft unless that site is a mining operation or is that a natural hole that leads to the tunnel or cave that was eroded by the elements. The white cement was circled by a red marker but then it was said that the entrance was to the right of the circled white cement. On the entrance pointed with a red arrow, what are those black stripes, is that a void between planks or what, but it was described as hard white cement. So where is the white hard cement, was it on the first picture on the upper right side of the person or is it on the small cavity on the lower left of the person which is depicted on the second picture. Just trying to get things straight.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on March 21, 2010, 07:03:45 AM
Thanks TW.

Well try to figure out how to enter safely and well let you know after our next visit and put some pics.

ty.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on March 21, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
 
t_hunter44,

The entrance/portal of the cave is on the lower part of the mountain its has a big hole where you can see in the photos that they covered with hard white cement. The entrance is near on the seashore and the breather is at the top of the mountain.....  



ronvil
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gener on March 21, 2010, 01:29:22 PM
No poison gas or whatsoever inside perhaps snakes, If there is a breather once then there is still unknown natural air passage thru and can be cracks. The big issue is that, we cannot be sure if it still contains any valuable metal inside as it maybe plundered or could be shifted as i understand that it was once entered. Means few people knows about it...
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on June 21, 2010, 08:38:35 AM
some pics of Nickel Babbitt,....




Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gboy on June 21, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
Ronvil,

If you want to recover or transact NICKEL BABBIT...its a waste of time and money...its a useless recovery and transaction. There are several open tunnel found full of nickel babbit in mindanao in several thousand pieces. All negotiators and funders went bankrupt even if the nickel babbit are true.

My partner Cliff..delivers a truck full of nickel babbit to show to several alleged buyers for several months transactions, nothing happens. In fact his truck was destroyed due to frequent showing to the foreign or local buyer of these useless metals. (nagkalaspag truck nya at bulsa nya kadadala ng mabigat na nickrel babbit na yan, wala rin).
He already CONDEMM and CURSE that nickel babbit transactions....Isinumpa na nya ang nickel babbit na yan, dyan nasira ang truck at nagkapurdoy2 katratransact at kadadala nyan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ronvil on June 21, 2010, 06:35:42 PM
Tanx for the info sir Gboy....Godbless....
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on June 21, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Gboy,

Nickel Babbitt has a high content of LEAD in it. I got some NB tested at the lab there in Manila and it proved to be over 90% LEAD. LEAD in itself is a commodity and definitely worth something. If there is a huge pile of NB Bars sitting there, its worth some cash money.

In my experience in the Philippines its almost always the INTERMEDIARIES who get GREEDY and screw up 99.9% of any kind of transactions going on there.

TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gboy on June 21, 2010, 09:56:05 PM
Gboy,
Nickel Babbitt has a high content of LEAD in it. I got some NB tested at the lab there in Manila and it proved to be over 90% LEAD. LEAD in itself is a commodity and definitely worth something. If there is a huge pile of NB Bars sitting there, its worth some cash money.
In my experience in the Philippines its almost always the INTERMEDIARIES who get GREEDY and screw up 99.9% of any kind of transactions going on there.

TW

Of course the Nickel Babbitt are true with lead contents and stuff, even the big vol are true, my partner had several assay report about that.

The only problem is the NB TRANSACTION ITSELF very2 difficult...you are like transacting Gold Bars.
...am sure you experience for several years how difficult to transact gold bars...Its the same with NB.   

Thats why rather waster your time and money on LEAD like NB...Its much better to concentrate more on Gold Bars.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on June 21, 2010, 10:09:16 PM
Gboy,
You're saying the metal is useless and I'm just stressing here that it's not useless. Such amounts of Lead is big money. Its usually the INTERMEDIARIES who are the useless ones involved and who usually screw up every single deal there including NB and also GOLD.

I also had a buyer for this NB once but, as usual, the Intermediaries got Greedy and no metal was even delivered at all. We even had the ship ready go to there and load. IF your guy(s) can really DELIVER, I can certainly find a buyer for that.
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Gener on June 22, 2010, 02:10:30 PM
Thats the truth and nothing but the truth! MIDDLEMENS makes the communication dealing impossible as most of them demanding impossible conditions...I  knew and i have seen this bars myself but it got screwed too until the buyer just dropped it and the commodity owner fade away....Imagine the price of nickle this days it was sky rocketed and still this semi precious metals are lying down rotting somewhere else....
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: kizzmut on July 15, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
hi im jhe,

We found some bar of Nickel Babbit here in  Nueva Vizcaya, in mountainous part of it.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: kizzmut on July 15, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
about this nickel babbit that we've found please contact me in this number 09193050165 and my email add kizz_rj16@yahoo.com.. by the way im jhe of nueva vizcaya.. thankz
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: goldbar 888 on July 15, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
thats good jhe, you can sell your nickel babbit to nickel buyers , depends how pure is the nickel content. the LMER price for 99%nickel now is USD19,915 per metric ton. buyers may get a buyers discount  to earn proffit. good luck!
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Angel_09 on July 15, 2010, 08:48:51 PM
Jhe,

Way back in early nineties, the price of 1 nickel babbitt bar ranges from 200 to 250 pesos. Agents of this metals are swarming almost all foodcourts in manila, and it is very saleable at that time...The buyers? Those agents who sell it... Each agent have at least two pieces in their bags...men or woman.

However, if it is really in big volume, a friend of mine will be willing to buy it probably 45 pesos each. Why so low? Because of "law of supply and demand". If you flood the market with big volume of commodity, definitely the price will go down. If I were you, you should sold it by pieces or by tens...at  ;)least you can raise the price higher...


Regards,

Angel    ;)
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on July 15, 2010, 09:15:53 PM
thats good jhe, you can sell your nickel babbit to nickel buyers , depends how pure is the nickel content. the LMER price for 99%nickel now is USD19,915 per metric ton. buyers may get a buyers discount  to earn proffit. good luck!

Don't let the name fool you. Nickel Babbitt has very little Nickle content in it (1% or less). But it does have very high content of LEAD in it and in big volumes is still worth a lot of money. Buyers use lots of lead for making BATTERIES, BULLETS, COMPUTER PARTS, etc. and stuff like that. How many kilos did you find there, Jhe?
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: goldfish on July 15, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Yes, i recall a post of TW before, Jhe, it would be great to consult with admin as he can even arrange a buyer for you (i think)...
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: kizzmut on July 16, 2010, 06:32:16 AM
But how this nickel bar came here in our province. This bar was found at the inside of a big tree. Some Japanese nationals are going to that mountain searching for a treasure i think, because they were looking a one big tree that can tell or guide them to find a hidden treasure. They came here six times in year 80's, 90's and present.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: joe on July 16, 2010, 09:08:25 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKMAN25168620081128

maybe you could sell it here?
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on July 16, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKMAN25168620081128

maybe you could sell it here?

Joe, that's a nickel mining company. Once again, Nickel Babbitt has VERY LITTLE nickel content in it. Its almost all LEAD.
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: joe on July 16, 2010, 07:34:56 PM
if that so,maybe better sell it to a bullet reloader or gun store.maybe they just remelt it and make it as bullet lead projectile ???
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ghost on September 08, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
Who has nickel babbit bars in Cagayan area, I will buy it for 50 pesos a piece. I will use it as a weigh to my fishing nets (lambat),I will remelt it of course to desired sizes. I will buy 30 pieces. PM me so that we can talk.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on September 08, 2010, 08:52:21 PM
if that so,maybe better sell it to a bullet reloader or gun store.maybe they just remelt it and make it as bullet lead projectile ???

Joe that's correct and also battery manufacturers need lead to make new batteries.
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: coolfun125 on March 05, 2011, 03:20:55 AM
If someone is interested to join us, we have a positive location for a bunker of NB 8 hours off the coast of GenSan in Mindanao. Volume is 5B pcs of 1.2 and 1.8 kg bars equally divided into lead based, tin based and nickel based. We will however need 250 T  to make the trip to the place. Part of the money also goes to a Medical Mission and providing for rice for the islands 5,000 inhabitants.  No island support, no allowing us to view the bunker.  Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers.  We can give you a good ROI for the assistance. Send me a personal note please if you are interested or if you have further questions.  This is not a scam. The holders are asking my help raise the initial funds.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:20:29 AM
OK TO SET THIS STRAIGHT, NICKEL OR WHATSOEVER WAS BROUGHT HERE IN PHILIIPPINES FOR ARMAMAMENTS BUILDING...... AYAW NYO LIBUGA,, AMERICANNS BROUGHT IT HERE... THERES NOTHING IN IT.. I..HAVE TONS OF IT, BUT ITS BLANK..
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:24:40 AM
AGAIN PLEASE UNDERSTAND IT,,,. NICKEL HAHAAHAH,, THER'S NOTHING IN IT,, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE???

PLEASE STUDY, STUDY PLEASE,,, I BEG YOU TO STUDY......
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:30:45 AM
TO ADMIN,, PLEASE INCLUDE HERE HOW TO DOWNLOAD VIDEO....THAT COULD BE VERY FUN...NO NOT FUNNNY,,,FUN REAL FUN

TO ANYONE I CHALLENGE YOU,,GET YOUR VIDEO IN HERE.....
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
NICKEL===NOTHING, IF THERE;S SOMETHIING IN IT ,,,HAVE IT ASSAYED OK?? SIMPLE AS THIS COULD SOLVE ASSUMPTIONS....NOTHING MY FRIENDS ,,,EXCEPT SCRAP METAL
(EDITED OUT)... NOTHING IN IT....

(Not very nice what you're saying here, Ben, so please CEASE the bad language! TW)
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:41:59 AM
GAMITA UTOK BAHH????
AS IN NOTHING,, NOTHING WALA,, WALA... SO NOW I'M ALONE AGAIN ,,NATURALY..WALA AS IN NOTHING.....
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 07:47:08 AM
(EDITED OUT!!) YOU TALK MORE THAN YOUR BRAINS COULD CHEW...
WITH DUE RESPECT ADMIN, JANNER, T HUNTER AND WHOEVER  VERY RESPECTABLE HERE,, I GIVE MY SALUTATIONS BUT WOO TO SOME *****,,, REALLY...
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 05, 2011, 08:42:30 AM
OK TO SET THIS STRAIGHT, NICKEL OR WHATSOEVER WAS BROUGHT HERE IN PHILIIPPINES FOR ARMAMAMENTS BUILDING...... AYAW NYO LIBUGA,, AMERICANNS BROUGHT IT HERE... THERES NOTHING IN IT.. I..HAVE TONS OF IT, BUT ITS BLANK..

Ben, what do you mean by "THERE'S NOTHING IN IT.. I..HAVE TONS OF IT, BUT ITS BLANK.."
Please explain further.
Tony
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 05, 2011, 08:44:33 AM
(EDITED OUT),, YOU TALK MORE THAN YOUR BRAINS COULD CHEW...
WITH DUE RESPECT ADMIN, JANNER, T HUNTER AND WHOEVER  VERY RESPECTABLE HERE,, I GIVE MY SALUTATIONS BUT WOO TO SOME ******,,, REALLY...

(Excuse, me, Ben but I edited your statement here because you're doing some name calling here and we don't allow that. TW)
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 05, 2011, 09:00:20 AM
If someone is interested to join us, we have a positive location for a bunker of NB 8 hours off the coast of GenSan in Mindanao. Volume is 5B pcs of 1.2 and 1.8 kg bars equally divided into lead based, tin based and nickel based. We will however need 250 T  to make the trip to the place. Part of the money also goes to a Medical Mission and providing for rice for the islands 5,000 inhabitants.  No island support, no allowing us to view the bunker.  Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers.  We can give you a good ROI for the assistance. Send me a personal note please if you are interested or if you have further questions.  This is not a scam. The holders are asking my help raise the initial funds.

Coolfun,
FYI - I did already have some of those NB bars tested at McPhar Lab in Manila and they are 98% LEAD. There's no Nickle inside those at all. Now, IF you really do know where 5B pieces is that is still worth some serious cash because there are many companies that need Lead to manufacture some of the following items; Batteries, Bullets, etc. so, Lead is definitely still in great demand.
The major problem with your proposal is - you/that 'group' are asking Peso 250,000 UPFRONT before anything is even proven so that could easily be some kind of scam. Who in his right mind want's to just hand someone they don't even know, 250,000 Pesos upfront without even a shred of proof that they even have this material?
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: benvalmores on March 05, 2011, 09:03:02 AM
ok sorry for that but how could i control... its just the natural side of me...just too many sane people looking insane huhhh???
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: coolfun125 on March 07, 2011, 07:32:24 AM
The major problem with your proposal is - you/that 'group' are asking Peso 250,000 UPFRONT before anything is even proven so that could easily be some kind of scam. Who in his right mind want's to just hand someone they don't even know, 250,000 Pesos upfront without even a shred of proof that they even have this material?
TW

Tony,

I understand those apprehensions. I have been scammed one too many times myself. This time however I think I stumbled on the right people after an ardous process of looking for the needle in the haystack. I have pictures and have assayed a bar from the bunker myself. Regarding the funds needed, it is a chicken and egg problem. We need financing just to video the bunker and only then will the whole world believe. That ain't easy because it is not easily accesible and one needs serious cash to go to it.

But I have posted the proposal right into the open in case the signal reaches the right ears. To make it more credible at this stage without exposing myself too much or subjecting it to mindless ridicule, my proposal to the financier is that he/she be with us all the way. They hold on to their money and only bring out cash as needed and in the process of documenting it. They can even help buy the equipment, rent the boat, purchase the medicines for the mission and of course be with us to the place. That is why I want anyone serious to send me a private message so we can talk in earnest.

As for non believers, I can fully understand their skepticism and do not blame them for it. It is a result of their bitter experiences that we also went through.  But when one seeks and does so incessantly, one will also find. Scripture says so.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 07, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
Coolfun,

To invite the financier to go with you does make your proposal sound much better. Good luck and I hope you can close your deal soon.
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: t_hunter44 on March 07, 2011, 01:21:06 PM
If someone is interested to join us, we have a positive location for a bunker of NB 8 hours off the coast of GenSan in Mindanao. Volume is 5B pcs of 1.2 and 1.8 kg bars equally divided into lead based, tin based and nickel based. We will however need 250 T  to make the trip to the place. Part of the money also goes to a Medical Mission and providing for rice for the islands 5,000 inhabitants.  No island support, no allowing us to view the bunker.  Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers.  We can give you a good ROI for the assistance. Send me a personal note please if you are interested or if you have further questions.  This is not a scam. The holders are asking my help raise the initial funds.
       NO ISLAND SUPPORT, NO ALLOWING US TO VIEW THE BUNKER  but then it is stated that "Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers". So how can you video the items if you are not allowed to view the bunker, I am confused. Can you clarify your statement and I do not think anybody will put up 250 grand just to make the trip to the site just to see the commodity, will you, would you pay that price just to see the commodity.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: admin on March 07, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
If someone is interested to join us, we have a positive location for a bunker of NB 8 hours off the coast of GenSan in Mindanao. Volume is 5B pcs of 1.2 and 1.8 kg bars equally divided into lead based, tin based and nickel based. We will however need 250 T  to make the trip to the place. Part of the money also goes to a Medical Mission and providing for rice for the islands 5,000 inhabitants.  No island support, no allowing us to view the bunker.  Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers.  We can give you a good ROI for the assistance. Send me a personal note please if you are interested or if you have further questions.  This is not a scam. The holders are asking my help raise the initial funds.
       NO ISLAND SUPPORT, NO ALLOWING US TO VIEW THE BUNKER  but then it is stated that "Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers". So how can you video the items if you are not allowed to view the bunker, I am confused. Can you clarify your statement and I do not think anybody will put up 250 grand just to make the trip to the site just to see the commodity, will you, would you pay that price just to see the commodity.

My answer to that is; NO I would not pay just to visit the community there! To heck with that!
TW
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: coolfun125 on March 09, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
The island is guarded and controlled by a batallion of ex special forces. They have settled there now with their families. They have needs there especially medicines, rice and so on. They are sitting on huge assets but lack the basic neccessities because they can not encash it nor attempted to do so in the past. But now it is open for negotiation to the right group. 

The support for the ISLAND inhabitants on the first visit to the place is a goodwill gesture which will win them over and get their full cooperation in the future. It is part of the investment.  Don't use the SCAM paradigm to think about it. 

I understand if you are not interested in this set up,  you simply are not the target market for these items.  While we risk a lot and spend millions to dig our TH sites without being sure to get it, this one is already open and just needs humanitarian support to grease the process.  Again if you find it unreasonable, it is obviously not specifically for you.  Nothing personal in that comment.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: coolfun125 on March 09, 2011, 01:46:35 PM
This is from the NB bunker. This is 96 % lead, 1.8 Kg bar.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Janner on March 09, 2011, 05:41:16 PM
"The island is guarded and controlled by a batallion of ex special forces."

explain this statement please !!

Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: anand on May 18, 2012, 11:50:17 PM

one group of our agents in mindanao reported to us yesterday that they are about to uncover real NBs.

we are not interested though; NB or any other metal than Au is not our interest.

i will monitor it though for our curiosity's sake and will let you know.

they say they have a ready buyer for these NBs waiting.

 
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: t_hunter44 on May 20, 2012, 02:05:51 AM

one group of our agents in mindanao reported to us yesterday that they are about to uncover real NBs.

we are not interested though; NB or any other metal than Au is not our interest.

i will monitor it though for our curiosity's sake and will let you know.

they say they have a ready buyer for these NBs waiting.

 
     Wonderful ! The said Nickel Babbitt is not uncovered yet and they already have buyers waiting, too sure for their own good and that's "Counting your chickens before they're hatched". Whatever, keep us posted.
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: anand on June 10, 2012, 03:17:58 AM

one group of our agents in mindanao reported to us yesterday that they are about to uncover real NBs.

we are not interested though; NB or any other metal than Au is not our interest.

i will monitor it though for our curiosity's sake and will let you know.

they say they have a ready buyer for these NBs waiting.

 
     Wonderful ! The said Nickel Babbitt is not uncovered yet and they already have buyers waiting, too sure for their own good and that's "Counting your chickens before they're hatched". Whatever, keep us posted.


no more follow up report until this time.  probably it is fake or false alarm.

will keep waiting though for the agents' updates.  they are our most dependable people in the place.


Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Daniel Agre on August 18, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
we wished to see the actual rows of NB inside that cave bro, if you have pic
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: Voyager on August 19, 2016, 09:03:08 AM
Zobex  had a video of a "Golden Lily" site of nickel bobbit his group discovered somewhere here. You should see it
Title: Re: Nickel Babbitt
Post by: ZOBEX on July 02, 2018, 06:34:49 AM
This is an old thread of what 7 years ago.  Someone pointed out to me the question, how many islands are 8 hour boat ride south of Gen San and of those, how many are you willing to go to without an army ? ?   Just a thought.

We once looked at a lot of REAL platinum there and a large Buddha.  BUT it did not belong to the Muslims and the odds of getting it out of there past both the muslims and the military, the odds are next to zero or worse than zero.  So there it sets, in a hut on the beach.  The real deal.

Z



If someone is interested to join us, we have a positive location for a bunker of NB 8 hours off the coast of GenSan in Mindanao. Volume is 5B pcs of 1.2 and 1.8 kg bars equally divided into lead based, tin based and nickel based. We will however need 250 T  to make the trip to the place. Part of the money also goes to a Medical Mission and providing for rice for the islands 5,000 inhabitants.  No island support, no allowing us to view the bunker.  Goal of the trip is to video the lot so we can package its sale to interested NB buyers.  We can give you a good ROI for the assistance. Send me a personal note please if you are interested or if you have further questions.  This is not a scam. The holders are asking my help raise the initial funds.