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Offline jin

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #840 on: September 08, 2010, 05:25:20 AM »
Come to think of it... a recovery in Isabela (or some other place) and a negotiation in Nowhereland.. whew..hard to imagine that there are no people in the neigboring town to deal with..

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #841 on: September 08, 2010, 07:20:30 AM »
1 gold Buddha was about 1000 kilos, the "Small" gold bars of about 17 i think, not a tunnel full..
and that was from his son.
the damages awarded still havnt been paid as yet by the Marcos's...
and the tunnel is.... well you may know where it is..  ??

...50 feet from the Budha is a tunnel( 5 feet high, 6 feet wide and 30 feet long) full of boxes (aprox the size of case of beer)...when Roxas  opened the box it contain 24 pcs (1"x2"x 1 1/2 " gold bar)...below is the complete detail...


"On January 24, 1971, the group broke through the enclosure. Inside, Roxas discovered a gold-colored buddha statue, which he estimated to be about three feet in height. The statue was extremely heavy; it required ten men to transport it to the surface using a chain block hoist, ropes, and rolling logs. Although he never weighed the statue, Roxas estimated its weight to be 1,000 kilograms, or one metric ton. Roxas directed his laborers to transport the statue to his home and place it in a closet. Roxas also found a large pile of boxes underneath the concrete enclosure, approximately fifty feet from where the buddha statue had been discovered. He returned the next day and opened one small box, which contained twenty-four one-inch by two-and-one-half-inch bars of gold. Roxas estimated that the boxes were, on average, approximately the size of a case of beer and that they were stacked five or six feet high, over an area six feet wide and thirty feet long. Roxas did not open any of the other boxes. Several weeks later, Roxas returned to blast the tunnel closed, planning to sell the buddha statue in order to obtain funds for an operation to remove the remaining treasure. Before blasting the tunnel closed, Roxas removed the twenty-four bars of gold, as well as some samurai swords, bayonets, and other artifacts."

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #842 on: September 08, 2010, 07:32:20 AM »
theres more to it than that, like large wooden square posts blocking a tunnel inside containing boxes, a second exit not declared by the finders, and the concrete stairs going somewhere..(?) this was according to his son, who i met about 5 yrs ago...
but stories get blemished over the yrs....

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #843 on: September 08, 2010, 07:32:57 AM »
Additional info re Roxas tunnel....why soldier continue to dig for about one year if there no more treasure left beside golden budha and few gold bars?...unless Roxas blasted treasure tunnel is being operated by the soldiers.

" 4. Military excavations

Roxas was released from prison on November 19, 1974. When he arrived home the next day, he noticed soldiers standing outside tents near the Baguio General Hospital. Sometime in December 1974, some soldiers visited Roxas in his shop and told him that they were members of the Task Force Restoration, which was conducting excavations behind the hospital. They listed their address in Roxas's logbook (which was never produced at trial) as Malacanang Palace. The soldiers asked him to come with them to help with the excavation; he refused. Roxas passed by the site in 1976 and saw that the excavations were still ongoing. In October 1976, Roxas and his family moved to Visayan City, where they stayed for the next ten years without further incident relating to the Yamashita treasure.

Juan Quijon (Juan) and his son, Romulo Quijon (Romulo), corroborated Roxas's testimony regarding the excavations. Juan had worked as a nursing attendant at Baguio General Hospital from 1945 to 1988. He noticed a number of soldiers involved in excavation behind the hospital between 1974 and 1975. Over a one-week period, Juan observed men carrying large wooden boxes out of a tunnel and placing them in trucks. Each box was carried by at least four -- and sometimes six -- men. The soldiers' uniforms bore the initials "PSC," and the trucks had the letters "PMA" painted on them. Juan also observed men removing some steel boxes with the aid of a winch. The soldiers left in August 1975.

Romulo testified that he worked as a cook for the soldiers performing excavations behind the hospital in 1974. Romulo testified that the "PSC" on the soldiers' uniforms stood for "Presidential Security Command," and the "PMA" painted on the trucks stood for "Philippine Military Academy." The soldiers employed civilians to perform most of the digging. Romulo saw these civilians pushing and pulling boxes out of a hole and loading them into trucks. The boxes appeared to be old and in poor condition. Some fell apart while being carried, and gold-colored bars fell out onto the ground. Romulo observed approximately ten boxes per day being loaded into trucks over a period of one year. He testified that the soldiers were "very strict" about keeping the public out of the area and that armed guards were posted at the trucks during the loading. "

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #844 on: September 08, 2010, 10:44:21 PM »
Let us see who,s going to react on this!!!just sharing some photo's again!!!

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #845 on: September 08, 2010, 11:52:48 PM »
the drawing maybe from davao.. but the illustration below that is from a book about japanese fortifications in the pacific....am i right mickey?

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #846 on: September 08, 2010, 11:58:26 PM »
      Seen that one before. Check Post your Maps Here. Pg. 11 by Boylara. Whoever has the time can find the other one too, its here somewhere. ;D ::)

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #847 on: September 09, 2010, 12:05:39 AM »
that was posted by BL last March 16, 2010, 07:45:10 PM :D :D :D Post your MAP here on page 3 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #848 on: September 09, 2010, 12:17:54 AM »
and also BL posted it last January 24, 2010, 07:46:50 AM Compilation of Maps by me... at  Post your MAP here :D :D :D

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #849 on: September 09, 2010, 01:03:11 AM »
oooopppppsssssss somebody reacting and claiming this was sent on me by the year 2008 by one the guys I dont want to mention who??????? for funding :) ;) ??? ::)

THE UNDOCUMENTED JAPANESE SECRET AIRBASE 

A DPWH (Dept. of Public Works and Highways) engineer befriended a Tagalog-English speaking old Japanese straggler in the province of Pangasinan. The old man had stayed in his house for so long until he was repatriated to his country in Japan . The old man was involved in the constructions of military bunker tunnels and entombment of several treasures in Luzon during the war. One of the illusive if not mysterious is a Tunnel 8 type treasure site in Bagabag town, enroute to surrender hill were Yamashita was captured. The old Japanese straggler translated the Bagabag map into English and the said DPWH engineer was able to copy it by hand (c.f. Exhibit 1). I thought that this is an operational map, there are several types of maps, a regional map and a site map but it is seldom to find an operational map a fulcrum map. Whether the Bagabag site is authentic or not, I’m referring to a book Japanese Pacific Island Defense 1941-1945 by Gordon Rottman and Ian
Palmer (Available at Amazon.com), these two authors were not treasure seekers, however, their tunneling models is almost identical to a Tunnel 8 type structures (c.f. Exhibit 2). Off course Japanese military bunkers may vary in structures and design with respect to emplacements and terrain. Moreover, the old straggler further stated that the familiar Tunnel 8 in Bambang, Nueva Viscaya is only a decoy type Tunnel 8, and the true Tunnel 8 is in Bagabag and Tuao, those three Tunnel 8 formed a triangle in geographical position common in Japanese landmark identification. Bagabag is adjacent to Kiangan where the surrender hill and Route4 was located (c.f. Boy Lara Route 4). But how many Tunnel 8 and Tunnel 9? Besides this three, there are Tunnel 8 in Tarlac, Porac, Sual, Palanan, Tanay, Bermuda Mt. and Baler according to some researchers. The DPWH engineer can be contacted and relocated his latest activity was in the watershed area of Norzagaray, Bulacan. 

        In a related development, Sandy my province mate who is a private cadastral surveyor once stumbled to meet a man in a certain island in the Visayas with four sets of treasure maps. The maps allegedly came from an indigenous tribe and was said to be originated from a dying Japanese straggler in the said island. According to Sandy the map holders were illusive people and would not share a copy of that map, instead he glimpse only the map as the secret airbase of the Japanese, and the load of the map is similar to the Bagabag map a mind boggling 300,000 metric tons of gold. The same structures and construction, with a 6footer Buddha and Kamikaze planes inside the tunnels. The location is in a remote mountainous island of Mindoro . 

      The numbering and classification of Japanese treasure tunnels seems very confusing to me. In the Gold Warrior book by Sterling and Peggy Seagraves they have conjecture a Tunnel 7 type as 777 billion yen, a Tunnel 9 is 999 billion yen and so forth. But I’ve seen a regional map of Luzon which belongs to a certain officer with tunnel classification which does not correspond to a load factor but rather seems a simple sequential order. 

        According to a Japanese veteran Tetsunosuke Yamamoto, “THE BIGGEST TREASURE THAT I GOT INVOLVED HAS NOT BEEN DISCOVERED YET..."
Are these the undocumented sites he was referring to? 

      This link is an online Curtis map of Tunnel 8 in Bambang, Nueva Vizcaya surveyed by an American team using seismic imaging. According to those in the know this Curtis map of Tunnel 8 was a farce, it was wholly edited. President Marcos ounce tried to operate the site by constructing a hospital but he misses for several meters. 





 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM
 alam ko na pagkuha ng tunnel8 kahit 10,000ft pa ang lalim meron technology nyan. Sa Russia meron sila butas na 42,000ft, sa Africa ang gold ore 8,000ft kinukuha. Funder lang ang kulang. Ito study ko. Wala pa dito ang TBM (tunnel boring machine). Puro lang muna tayo ambition wala naman masama dyan.hehe.

SUBJECT : FEASIBILIY STUDY IN RECOVERING VERY DEEP BIG
VOLUME TREASURES.
METHODOLOGY : THE SURGICAL METHOD OF EXCAVATION USING STITCH DRILLING
TECHNIQUE

By making a series of drilling steel pipes of desired
diameter in the whole area of the excavation with
virtually pushing to the limit of depths even for a
shaft of more than 1,000 feet of the opening.  Stitch
drilling provides the ideal answer when there is no
area to pumped continuous water existing in any
treasure site. Coupled with dredging, grouting and
micro piling techniques you can even excavate an area
with out sufficient vertical clearance.

Procedures in Stitch Drilling

1. Drill high tensile strength micro piles around the
area you have planned to excavate
    whether cylindrical or a square hole of your
technical choice.
2. Underpinning the drilled micro piles down to the
treasure chamber.
3. Grouting the perimeter of the micro piles either by
cement or bentonite to block the
    water pressure from the outside of the shaft, or
used a ready groutable micro piles.
4. Implement a stitch drilling technique by boring
steel pipes of desired diameter in the
    whole excavation area.
5. Removed the steel pipes section by section and
reinforced the perimeter micro piles 
    with welded  structural frame.
6. There is still some remaining soil left at the
intervals of the bored pipes and this can be
    removed by advanced dredging.

Benefits and Advantages of Stitch Drilling Excavation.
   

      1.  You shall not require your workers to
descend on the shaft since you excavate 
            by drilling at ground level.
     
        2. You do not need to contend with poison
trap, (circumventing all traps is 
            guaranteed)
     
        3. You do not need to challenge the endless
flow of water by a series of
              submersibles.

        4. You can open the treasure chamber at ground
level.

        5. With no available place to disposed running
water in the vicinity, this surgical 
              technique can operate with a high degree
of success. In most cases multiple 
              water channels were directed to the
treasure chamber, not to even mention the 
              water at various levels. Compared this
volume of water to correspond by the 
              limited drainage system in the
surroundings therefore it is impossible to continue 
              the entire operation.

        6. Since you used the micro piling method you
don’t need heavy equipments in the
          operation therefore shunning a volatile
commotion.

        7. Micro piles can be drilled in areas with
limited vertical clearance. 

        8. You excavate the site by machines instead
of manual digging.

        9. Safety and protecting the lives of workers.


        10. It minimizes soil residue from the
excavation       

        11. By this method you can recover the
treasure caches on a directional basis like
            beneath the roads or rivers. (c.f.
Directional Drilling).
       
        12. You can operate secretly.
         
        13.  Avoiding financial disaster.

        14. A comprehensive retrieval system, a
surgical and very fast approach   

RECOMMENDATIONS:       

      Recovering the WW2 treasure caches without an
existing retrieval plan is always a daunting task. To
overcome nightmares and escape the intricate system of
recovering very deep buried war booties—a surgical
technique and expertise must be tapped at the disposal
of construction and dredging companies, in order to
avoid financial disaster and attain exceptional
success of the entire operation.


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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #850 on: September 09, 2010, 01:14:06 AM »
Let us see who,s going to react on this!!!just sharing some photo's again!!!

This alleged treasure map have been fiddled for several years by some treasure hunters already...tsk,tsk..kumalat na yan eh, marami na kumita at napordoy dyan bossing. ;D ;D
Why not, Try to post unfamiliar japs treasure maps...maybe we will appreciate or believe it  ;D

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #851 on: September 09, 2010, 01:30:54 AM »
it was not my map BOSS GBOY i just want to share our fellow TH that this map was  use for funding just to make the financier believe that they have a legitimate map..i dont want the others to on jeopardy.....PEACE!!!! ;)

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #852 on: September 09, 2010, 01:33:29 AM »
dream on mickey.... afterall its free! ;)

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #853 on: September 09, 2010, 01:58:43 AM »
sir lagalag

    Im not dreaming of anything ......I just want to wake our guys in here that there is some groups that looking for fund just to filled their OWN pocket......IM NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDER TO OUR OWN PROJECTS.......

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Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
« Reply #854 on: September 09, 2010, 03:02:26 AM »
sir lagalag

    Im not dreaming of anything ......I just want to wake our guys in here that there is some groups that looking for fund just to filled their OWN pocket......IM NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDER TO OUR OWN PROJECTS.......

I think by now most of the members are aware of this....more so the old timers here......but good advice for the newbies

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