REAL OR FAKE GOLD BAR?

[romblonhunter]

Many scammers in Cagayan de Oro.. never trust anyone selling gold bars from there! Yung uso dyan, dyan kunyari marami silang ganyan, tapos hihingi ng mobilization money o downpayment o kung ano2 basta pagkaperahan ka PURO KWENTO.. Wag papatusin yan sa umpisa pa lang.. Basta Cagayan de Oro at neighboring cities nyan, HUWAG NA!!

[boylara]

This Marilyn Uy also operates here in Cagayan Valley, she has other aliases, like Dra. Aventejado,  for sure one of her padrinos is a former General...

[Gener]

that was a trivial racket to ask for movilization money! the problem is they will movilized themselves with nothing to transport until they will ask for another money and more alibi, and at the end, you will get bronze or they simply kick your ass!

[MasKara]

Mga Bro. I've been on the sideline for a long time but still tracking all the blogs daily. Did everyone here forgot this forum, somebody made a new forum of "CASES OF FAKE GOLD BARS", another one even was looking for fake photos of gold bars. I think this behavior reflects the YAMASHITA TREASURE HUNTING SYNDROME. You may not agree with me but my observation says why.

We do not have to make new topics when the topic you want to discuss is already here. All you need is research and ask, It's like TH you have the YM treasure map; it's in your hand all the info you need is there because you want short cuts and lack of perseverance, you made your own way, you speculate, you hit and miss trial and then ask where is the gold?
This is my example; the topic you created and photos you are looking is already embedded here, all you need is ask or research (like googling) because you have no perseverance you started to make a new topic everybody followed, they share forgetting that there is already a topic similar to what they are discussing then another will also put up a topic with same intention then everybody follow that line again and again. There is no end until the real stuff gets buried and forgotten.
That's what I mean when I say that YAMASHITA SYNDROME has bitten the person, you believe in an instant when there is a new lead, when somebody points there is a treasure buried in their backyard or a cave full of gold ready to be hauled. While the real ones are forgotten everybody follow when the story is interesting but do not make sense sometimes.

From my point of view nothing has progress on all the YT operations mentioned here, even though with all the experienced, treasure maps and live pointers etc.
Why don't we sit back for a while and ask ourselves, for so many years of hands on hard labor, intensive researched and knowledge in this field why haven't any one here with almost 1/2 of their life dedicated in TH for decades even more, still not able to recover? There are a lot of stories of recoveries, witness to recovery and stock piles of gold inside a cave, but everything seems to be just a myth.
You held conferences but after the conference you part ways and do your own thing. Then blog on every forum every body follows retelling the stories of the adventure until we can not anymore know which is true or real.

Mga bro forget this littany just do your own thing if you cannot get united. but use your COMMON SENSE.

Here are photos that one of our friends are asking. Tell me if they are fake or not.

[MasKara]

For your eyes only, Fake or not

[admin]

Well, I say they are FAKE but you tell us your findings.
TW

[cap miwa]

Yes, it is visible in some of the photos, they are fake.

[joe]

this one is a clear "FAKE" one

[MasKara]

These seems to be the real one, but the rest are fake so it is useless to post it.
What do you think?

[admin]

That bar is too smooth so definitely looks fake.
TW

[cap miwa]

no. this one looks more real than the others. is it a 74.6kg? well the best way to know is to have it weighed and measured if not assayed.

[MasKara]

Yes Cap, that is 74.6kg but the holders do not want to cut a piece of it for test buy. These bars are only for show off.

Here is the deal, if a holder says he got tons of gold or 100pcs of 74.6, and another 400pcs of 6.2kg but then ask them to cut a kilo of the piece they showed at viewing for test buy and if they decline positively that is the only bar they have.

To buyers and agents that is a red flag, use common sense.

[Angel_09]

HELPFUL TIPS ABOUT GOLD

In an alloyed state, gold is soft, very malleable, ductile and of bright yellow color in its pure state.
Using it for fine jewellery in its pure form is not practical, because it is too soft and can be easily deformed or bruised.  However, it can be hardened or change its color by alloying it with other metal.
Alloying is the process of mixing other metals with pure gold, namely silver, copper and zinc to make it hard and more malleable. Once gold is alloyed, it is measured in terms of karat.
Karat is the unit of measurement in determining the quantity of gold in an alloy and symbolizes by the letter ‘K’.
A 24 karat gold, technically is not 100% pure gold, and the highest purity of a gold piece can only be 999 or 99.9% purity, which is a government controlled gold bars. However, in some jewelleries such as gold rings, it has  99.95% purity.
Changes in color of gold is due to infusion of other metals.
Determining the gold content in a piece of gold bar:
To determine the amount of percentage of pure gold which an alloy contains, the following formula is used:

KARAT divide by 24

             Thus:

24K  / 24  =  1.00 or 100%
22K  /  24  =  0.917 or 91.7 %
20K  /  24  =  0.833 or 83.3 %
18K  /  24  =  0.750 or 75.0%
14K  /  24  =  0.583 or 58.3 %
12K  /  24  =  0.500 or 50.0 %
10K  /  24  =  0.417 or 41.7 %
8K  /  24  =  0.333 or 33.3 %
 6K  /  24  =  0.250 or 25.0 %

Gold is measured according to the international unit for weight measure called TROY OUNCE which is equivalent to 31.1035 grams.

How to determine the amount of pure gold in a piece of ‘gold bar’?(Note: It is assumed that the gold bar is not fake)

1.   Determine the precise karat of the gold bar.
2.   Divide the karat to 24
3.   The quotient will give the percentage of gold in the bar.

Example:

1.   22K divided by 24K = 0.917

2.   APPLICATION:

a.   A gold bar with a weight of 500 grams was assayed at 22K and gives gold percentage of .917 or 91.7%.
b.   To find the amount of gold at 24K, multiply .917 by 500 grams and it will give you the weight of 458.5 grams.
c.   Therefore, 458.5 grams in 24K is the amount of pure gold in a bar of 500 grams.
d.   Subtracting 458.5 grams from 500 grams will give us 41.5 grams of other METAL.

Angel

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[Angel_09]

ERRATA:

In an alloyed state, gold is soft, very malleable, ductile and of bright yellow color in its pure state.


This should read:

In an unalloyed state, gold is soft, very malleable, ductile and of bright yellow color in its pure state.

Sorry for late correction......