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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => Post your MAP here => Topic started by: golden boy on April 17, 2010, 10:34:52 PM

Title: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: golden boy on April 17, 2010, 10:34:52 PM
To all yth,

this is my site,a jap army camp during ww2.  attached is a sketch map of one of the site,including all the tree markers.  on this site,we have located more or less 20 positive targets using japanese dowsing stick. as you can see my sketch, using NORTHSTAR puzzle map,you can easily locate some target. in fact MR. NS visited my site and done his job and identified some targets using his puzzle map.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Angel_09 on April 17, 2010, 11:28:15 PM
Hi Golden boy,

What type of dowsing you use?

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Post by: golden boy on April 17, 2010, 11:48:29 PM
angel,

last year i befriended an 85 year old guy,a veteran th, he's helping me on my site. he owns a japs dowsing stick. he is using this since 1969 and already had 7 hits. previously im using MD (VLF,2 BOX,PI) i also tried using GEM 2 EM sensor,unfortunately it did not work. as my hunting progress, i found out that japs put some black chemical on backfilled soil,sand and gravel as anti detection shield,at 5 to 10 ft layer. the black layer starts at 10 ft downwards.i attached more pics to my site.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: golden boy on April 18, 2010, 12:04:42 AM
another pics
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 18, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Golden Boy

What a nice supporting post. Thank you for your effort to prove to them our treasure activities is for real. Japanese are kept on sending message to me with all the insulting words. I don't know if what is his real purpose. Maybe he is mad because we were able to decode their hidden ciphers. He kept on calling me a brown monkey boy. He did'nt realized that this brown monkey boy will turned into golden monkey boy soon after all filipino will learn our techniques. The combination of japs dowsing stick and isometric view. hehehe
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Angel_09 on April 18, 2010, 12:39:31 AM
Golden Boy and to all THs,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I always heard and read about this "anti detector". It is described as black chemical, black matter and other terminology without giving specific nature of this said anti detector.
In electromagnetic detector, the basic principles goes like this:

A signal is sent out by a primary coil. If there are no interference sensed by this signal, then the balance between primary (transmitter) and secondary (reciever) coil is  NULL or zero.
If however, a metal or any conductive material is sensed and create unbalance in magnetic field between transmitter and reciever, this unbalanced will be interpreted by the circuitry aand will come out as sound signal. There are no OTHER materials that will hinder the magnetic propagation of a coil...except CONDUCTIVE MATERIALS, either processed (finished product such as any metal) or unprocessed (magnetic minerals). The principles of metal detector is very simple. Transmit a signal, either it is reflected or absorbed, the resultant will be translated by the circuit of the detectors.
I suspect about the anti detector you are mentioning is a magnetic minerals camouflaged by tar.


Angel
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on April 18, 2010, 12:59:42 AM
So, what did you find..if anything???
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Angel_09 on April 18, 2010, 01:11:47 AM
Hi Janner,

Is the question for me?

Angel
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on April 18, 2010, 01:14:44 AM
oooops sorry that was for golden boy......
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Post by: Angel_09 on April 18, 2010, 01:28:47 AM
OK. :)
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 18, 2010, 01:52:30 AM
Golden Boy

What a nice supporting post. Thank you for your effort to prove to them our treasure activities is for real. Japanese are kept on sending message to me with all the insulting words. I don't know if what is his real purpose. Maybe he is mad because we were able to decode their hidden ciphers. He kept on calling me a brown monkey boy. He did'nt realized that this brown monkey boy will turned into golden monkey boy soon after all filipino will learn our techniques. The combination of japs dowsing stick and isometric view. hehehe
Your Combination of Japs Dowsing Stick and Isometric View Technique that you expect all Filipinos to learn. Not interested on the Isometric View but the Japs Dowsing Stick has aroused my curiosity. What is it and what can it do, and how can you combine it with your Isometric View.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 18, 2010, 02:07:23 AM
Golden oy,
      Looking at your tree markers as you claim, how come after more than 65 years those markers is still hip level, giving me the impression that the tree never did grow up . I have etched  my mark on a Santol tree  at eye level in our yard 40 years ago and that mark is now about 17 to 20 feet high, whats with your tree.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: golden boy on April 18, 2010, 02:39:46 AM
t_hunter44

send you pm


golden boy
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: golden boy on April 18, 2010, 03:13:20 AM
t_hunter44,

this trees are well preserved in my 10 hectares farm lot,except the molave tree w/c is already cut. remember japanese are experts in bonzai,looking at the old mango tree,you can see carved triangle and side marker is a swan. we dug 4 mtrs from the swan and the project progress better and on the north side,an old mango tree w. a big embossed heart. under its trees is a main roots formed into a big head. the heart is facing on the site under the backfilled/enclosed tunnel we opened. the old santol tree w/c has a big opening hole,underneath is big breather going downwards connecting to the main breather 12 in. big and 40 ft long going horizontal to the tunnel. so what you can say about my site?

golden boy
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 19, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
Golden Boy,
      Cannot say anything about your site but then you have the experts there to assist you like Northstar and the old Japanese guy that you said has already made successful recoveries and in the process of going for a couple of Golden Lily sites. I just wonder who gave that Japanese guy authority to dig in the island as I understand foreigners are not allowed to treasure hunt in the Philippines, by themselves. Well, Good Luck in your site, might that be someplace in Southern Luzon.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: boylara on April 20, 2010, 01:05:54 AM
That's in ISabela I think..sad to say no treasure on that site..
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:08:31 PM

Golden Boy
I posted 3 pages of our Japanese treasure code book so that they will know the true Japanese treasure code or signs

The first sign is the sign of sitting budha. If you can find this sign underground, the treasure is 15 meters under. This budha sign does not mean that the  treasure is golden budha. This signs gives direction and distance of 15 meters under.









Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:10:53 PM
Reverse position
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
The next sign is the sign of big volume of Japanese treasure
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
2nd page of Japanese treasure code book
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
Here
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:22:58 PM
This is the reverse engineering technique. The big foot stone. But in actual scenario it is a small foot stone
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
Reverse position
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:30:12 PM
Snake head. means poison nearby about 1-2 meters
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:42:30 PM
This is an example of rock poison canister. We found this at 30 ft level after the snake head sign. There are 18 pieces of rock poison canister in different sizes and shape. When you break it, it's hollow inside. Fortunately, the poison is already expired
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 02:49:20 PM
This sign means the treasure is 2 meters. This is the sign of giveaways or regalo
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 03:18:43 PM
The same stone that you can see at gary bautista blogspot and siadventures
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
hi sir northstar, on you code book page two. i have that similar cross sign. is this pointing somwhere else? this is about 60-70 degrees pointing SW. the rock also is about 10 meters away from our current dig with cement pyramid.

Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 05:15:25 PM
Suoerman888

Yes, it is very similar. Check the meaning if it will fit in your area. Look for a creek in your area and find some clue. I may suggest that you plot all the stones landmark in your area and put all the distance between each stone and the point of reference using compass. If you do not know how to do it. Contact the person that I gave you. Did you get his number?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
no i didnt receive any. can you please send it again? thnks a lot.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 05:25:27 PM
Please send your email add to my email add
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Edtsr on April 27, 2010, 05:32:14 PM
Mr. North Star, what if the sitting budha (about 6ft high, pile of stone) was found in front of a waterfalls, waterfalls is facing east. there is also a lion head marker in the wall of the waterfalls. They accidentally found it because of a nail marker place in a tree pointing to the waterfalls. where could be the possible locations of giveaways.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 05:43:14 PM
Tagaquezon2

It's hard to determined if I can not see the original positioning of the land markers. If you are interested to know, make a plot of the area with complete details on distance and point of refrence. Focus on this 3 landmarkers. trees, lion and the 6 ft budha
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Edtsr on April 27, 2010, 06:10:38 PM
Tagaquezon2

It's hard to determined if I can not see the original positioning of the land markers. If you are interested to know, make a plot of the area with complete details on distance and point of refrence. Focus on this 3 landmarkers. trees, lion and the 6 ft budha

We are planning to visit the site one of this day, i will take some photos and measurement, how about a pyramid shape door they found on the side of this waterfalls, they found it after removing pile of rocks, they already blasted 2 doors (they use blasting cause it was hard concrete) and still there is another door on the way, is it possible that this is the main entrance?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 06:20:11 PM
@tagaquezon2

whats the dimension of you pyramid door? how does it look like? i have one similar pyraid underneath the river bed. we are still digging it and we are still 3-4 meters deep since it a hard concrete too.


@northstar

sent you an email sir.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Edtsr on April 27, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
@tagaquezon2

whats the dimension of you pyramid door? how does it look like? i have one similar pyraid underneath the river bed. we are still digging it and we are still 3-4 meters deep since it a hard concrete too.


I have not seen it in actual, my th_friend told me about it, it was pink in color a little bit small with the standard single door in our home, he is operating this site for years,
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on April 27, 2010, 07:56:39 PM
SP888 on the rock with the cross... there is no "green growth" inside the markings of the cross..?

can you explain that?

as there should be if old, or, did you "clean" it ??
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 07:58:46 PM
yes i did clean the moss. there are other charactrers and signs on my post here:

http://www.tseatc.com/smf/index.php?topic=534.30
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on April 27, 2010, 08:10:26 PM
its always advisable to take a picture "before & after" you clean signs, you may have inadvertently cleaned something off the sign which could have been important.

Plus it allows you to "read" the sign from various views. and get comments here to help.

be lucky
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 09:32:10 PM
Superman888

Please send again. I don't have your email add yet.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 10:02:58 PM
i already emailed you sir.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 10:31:52 PM
Got it superman888. check your email now
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Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 10:33:46 PM
"before" as requested.

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/srcds-montessori/DSC07332-2.jpg)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/srcds-montessori/DSC07333-2.jpg)

(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/srcds-montessori/DSC07326-2.jpg)
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: superman888 on April 27, 2010, 10:36:45 PM
also, the server for tseatc.com's folder allocation for images is already full. thats the reason why some of us cannot post pics.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 10:44:53 PM
Tagaquezon

We are planning to visit the site one of this day, i will take some photos and measurement, how about a pyramid shape door they found on the side of this waterfalls, they found it after removing pile of rocks, they already blasted 2 doors (they use blasting cause it was hard concrete) and still there is another door on the way, is it possible that this is the main entrance?
Do not destroy the pyramid door, this are the true landmarls. How many entrance are there? Please describe all the positioning of this door with exact distance and reference point
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 02:18:38 PM
Trial post
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 02:20:46 PM
This sign means treasure under
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 02:29:05 PM
This sign means travel around the base from mark direction. If the mark direction is treasure under, you did downward direction
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 02:41:38 PM
Foot markings: If you get this signs, do not dig horizontally, Just go downward direction. Most of the treasure hunters if they get this signs, they dig horizontally without knowing which way to go
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on April 29, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
SP888-
your sign of multiple marks could well be a map on its own, like perhaps the "inside" of somewhere.. ?
the cross from my perspective, looks like its inside a circle.. ?

NS- your images are very small, cannot view them in magnification due to very small file..?

Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 02, 2010, 09:39:33 PM
Northstar,

I beg to disagree with your alleged rock marker....its just ordinary Odd Shape Rock that look like shoe.
If you want to see a Jap shoe rock marker....it should look like a shoe or boots...not a rock. Just imagine if the surrounding area is full of those odd shape rocks. Your imagination will going crazy thinking all those surrounding odd shape rocks will be assumed to be japs marker? which results into EXPENSIVE USELESS DIG HOLES.

Observe a terracotta soldier shoe or.... shoe of a statue...that whats you expect to look like, if you want a Japs rock shoe marker....beautifully carved even a 5 year old kid can identify it (thats what Japs marker are for, right...to inform not to confuse). If you are in doubt of its shape...its not a Japs marker. Bcoz Japs marker are WELL DEFINED and BEAUTIFULLY CARVED....crafted by a Japs artist, oks?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 03, 2010, 03:36:13 AM
Gboy

So you wanted to see a shoe. Take a look at this photo. If you are really veterans treasure hunter, give me your interpretations of this photo. I got this inside the Japanese soldier boot. Let me see what you got. Look closely because that shoe is in the cloth.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 03:59:51 AM
back then in my site a dug this liitle shoe? about 8 to 9 feet deep... :)
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 04:36:55 AM
Well thats a shoe! What have you found after digging 6 mtrs under of it??
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Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 05:10:34 AM
i stopped gener cant dig any deeper.... :) amateur test digging...
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 05:31:03 AM
So you left it hanging there, i asked that question because the shoe mentioned that depth! but i dont know what is there ofcourse..
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Post by: Janner on May 03, 2010, 05:35:09 AM
The mystery deepens, are we looking for a 1 legged japanese or the other shoe...??
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Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 05:38:13 AM
probably the other shoe...hard to find one legged japanese in those days..... ;D
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Post by: goldfish on May 03, 2010, 05:39:51 AM
Nice sign! authentic,...whew, i should have brought an extra camera when i went to our project site...I didn't know we could know the depth by looking at the characteristics of the shoe...

P.S. Northstar, i also strongly agree that your post re shoe sign (the rock) is not made by the japanese..not a treasure sign...same with the sitting buddha...

Cheers!
goldfish
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 05:45:47 AM
ha-ha! maybe the other shoe yeah! a cunning jap indeed, why he left his other shoe 6feet or 6 mtrs underneath...clever!
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 03, 2010, 05:49:31 AM
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. FUNNY TSEATC TREASURE HUNTERS. LOOKING FOR NUTS BUT CANNOT FIND GOLD. hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 05:52:13 AM
Thats the words comes from Albert Tamaguchi posts?,,forgive NS,,he is drunk!.. ;D
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 03, 2010, 05:58:12 AM
well at least it is a shoe! not just a lump of rock or a advert for Nike..

was there anything else in the area or the hole that you made?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 05:59:47 AM
lots of it janner maybe a big garbage dump.... ??? ??? ???
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 06:05:16 AM
can you name some of those trash you found on that garbage hole?..
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Post by: Janner on May 03, 2010, 06:08:49 AM
wow garbage dumps are like reading a book, take your time and inspect everything !!

you just may be lucky..... ;)
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Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 06:12:21 AM
this are only few i kept in my cam.....
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 06:12:46 AM
be like an archeologist....later it will turn valuable...  :D
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Post by: Janner on May 03, 2010, 06:18:30 AM
i can see the old eye bolt and the electrical insulator...what is the "silver-ish rock" ??
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 06:18:42 AM
what is that rectangular mound on a hand,,metal or concrete?
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Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 06:20:04 AM
dont know janner a cement ... but its included in my collection...
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Post by: Janner on May 03, 2010, 06:22:12 AM
ok, ah well keep digging.............. ;)
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Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 06:24:00 AM
rectangle represent a doorway,,what doorway is that then,,garbage encinerator?.. better look at that place where this blocks found, maybe yellow garbages was kept there...
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 06:24:46 AM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 03, 2010, 06:34:00 AM
Northstar,
Thats a drawing of a shoe in a cloth (as you claim)...anyways, so whats got to do with your Odd shape rock?


Fernando,
Thats obviously a Shoe Shape man made concrete/clay?.....possibly a Japs treas marker but totally different from Northstar Odd shape rock....obviously very different. Napakalayo ng pag kakaiba.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: fernando on May 03, 2010, 06:36:35 AM
yes gboy i think its from a old oven stand... but purposely breaked to form a shoe shape...parang tungko ng kalan ng mga lola natin....
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 03, 2010, 06:38:09 AM
......And,,,the japs are not stupid to mould a clay shoe if there is no reason..better consentrate to study again the sequence of your markers and look where is the bin. there has to be something here...and not a simple garbage,,,expensive garbage indeed.. :o
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 03, 2010, 06:41:10 AM
Fernando,

The other items in your picture are obviously discarded items or garbage ( insulator, iron hook and square rock?).
Anyways, Remember soil is depository of garbage. So don't expect anything you found underneath the soil are treasure markers besides your local MWSS pipeman who always dig water pipes/canal may have better collection of garbage than yours  ;D
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 03, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
Gboy

You are asking for a better picture of shoe. so, I show this drawing. If you cannot answer my question above, you are one of monkeys looking for nuts but cannot find tree. Hahahahaaaaa

You cannot clearly see the foot markings in the picture,but if you see that in actual situation, you will really appreciate that odd shape stone. Now if you have your own, please show it here.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on May 03, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
This sign means travel around the base from mark direction. If the mark direction is treasure under, you did downward direction
Nice picture. Close your fist in front of your face then stick out your middle finger, What is it now, I suppose you got the meaning. See, you are smarter than I thought.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 03, 2010, 05:14:47 PM
Northstar,

You are asking for a better picture of shoe. so, I show this drawing.
Thats right, however, your picture of a shoe is totally different from your odd shape rock marker....napakalayo ng pag kakaiba.

If you cannot answer my question above,
I already answered your question, no need to repeat it over2 again. However, if you are not satisfied, its okey bcoz thats the least of my concern. Am not compelled to satisfy you.

you are one of monkeys looking for nuts but cannot find tree. Hahahahaaaaa
No need to find the tree, bcoz we already found the NUTS (au) anyways, oks?  ;D

You cannot clearly see the foot markings in the picture,but if you see that in actual situation, you will really appreciate that odd shape stone. Now if you have your own, please show it here.
Odd shape stone will always be odd shape stone, no more no less....its only the pigment imagination of a treasure hunter who wanted an odd shape stone to be a Japs rock marker probably due to his LIMITED ORIG JAPS ROCK MARKER experience or collection.
(Yan ang problema pag kokonti lang orig japs rock marker ang nakita mo or koleksyon mo, kasi pati ang mga ordinaryong bato pipilitin mo gawing treasure marker kasi wala kang maikukumpara eh, pero pagmarami kang nakita at koleksyon ng orig japs marker, madali mo malaman ang pagkakaiba.)
FYI, I have several dozens man made Japs rock markers...more than all of you here combined, so don't lecture me about Japs rock markers and odd shape rock markers bcoz I know all the difference.
My team are more experience and explored in LUZVIMINDA more than you do, so don't lecture me about japs rock marker...bagets ka pa lang dyan kumpara sa amin, bai?
Thats just my 2 cents comments, walang personalan.

Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 03, 2010, 05:16:56 PM
T-Hunter44


close your fist near your nose, then stick out your smallest finger. Start to dig there to remove nose grass. do that everyday for your morning habit. At least I help you a healthy habit to breathe more fresh air.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 03, 2010, 05:34:16 PM
Northstar,

You are experienced or expert in your field of Isometric View...fine, thats highly appreciated.
However....there are other YamTHr here who are more experienced, with extensive YTH researched and veteran than you do. Meaning whatever you say may not agreeable to us who have decades of YTH experienced/research than you do.

Nevertheless, you question and ask portion re YTH is admitable, Somehow It will enlighten other Yam THrs here.
Of course, it is expected that we may NEVER AGREE on something bcoz we have different YTH experince but thats why we are here in this forum to SHARE SOME YTH INFOS....its up to us wither we believe it or not on someone else views or answer.
 No need to argue or disrespect each other. Walang personalan.


 
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 04, 2010, 05:04:25 PM
This marker means treasure under. Look at my Japanese code book and the stone marker
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Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 04, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
Gboy

I have another foot markings for you to evaluate. I found this 75 ft underground. The thickness of this is 1/8 of an inch. Can you consider this as odd shape stone at 75 ft underground. Estimate in what level is the treasure with this marking. Left and right sole of the foot. Lapa lapa.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 04, 2010, 06:39:56 PM
Northstar,

Sorry I beg to disagree....your Japs code marker maybe correct but the rock that you found underneath is not a Japs rock marker to me but ordinary odd shape stones.

FYI, I have a  Japs Treasure Map (big vol/golden lilly sites) in Mindanao.
It described and contained the detailed VERTICAL POSITION of the markers/items/traps...layer by layer, thickness and stuff. In other words I know what to expect underneath from golden lilly sites bcoz it has basic standard underground treasure design. .
And odd shape stones...is not one of those you should expect underneath.

In fact our YTH reasearch is more extensive than Seagraves admitted by his assistance when I talk/emailed to them. Seagraves expertise is only CIA stuff and Curtis/valmoris maps..no more no less, ours is more extensive than that. We even explained to Seagraves and his assistance the errors on his Yam books, thats why they sent me some corrections/revision of his Golden warrior book, which only few people had a copy....including me.
...Thats why if you want to talk about Japs marker and stuff....bossing sobra2 na kaalaman at decades na research namin dyan, fully documented pa, oks?

Of course, as always...we may differ in opinion or observations. Its up to YTHrs to whom they will believe, walang pilitan.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 04, 2010, 06:54:25 PM
Northstar,

BTW, a few years ago, I debated and argued with Seagraves assistant (map reader) re some errors on his Gold Warrior books. They ask the help of my team to correct some errors, they sent me some money so we went to Northern Luzon tooks some pictures of the targets sites, give some corrections of yam infos and stuff  and sent it to them. Few months later they sent me the revision of Gold Warrior book, which only few people had a copy, including me.

Thats why if you want to talk to me re Japs rock marker and stuff....thats only very2 small agenda compared to the extensive YTH research we had done, oks?.... :-\
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 04, 2010, 09:39:44 PM
Gboy

With this foot marking sign, the treasure was found 92 feet underground. The sole of the foot marker means the treasure is 5 meters underground. May I request you to please post your rock markers here for the benefit of the doubt. If you believe so much with the sea grave books, It's nothing and a useless book for treasure hunting. You are like reading stories of the WWII. Remember this always my friend, The japanese always change their code every site you dig, It's never uniform rock markers. You try all my rock markers with acid test if is an odd shape rock or a cemented rock. I hope to meet you soon to help your group solve the mysteries of yamashita treasure.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 04, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Northstar,

With this foot marking sign, the treasure was found 92 feet underground. The sole of the foot marker means the treasure is 5 meters underground.
Of course, I will not believe your word easily unless you show proof of treasure that recovers bcoz of that shoe rock marker.

May I request you to please post your rock markers here for the benefit of the doubt.
I have already posted some of my japs rock markers even in other treasure forums, and some who saw them...they never doubts its Japs man made...hehehe
ex: 10 foot smiling face, carved on cliff wall 70 feet above the ground...thats the pinoy version of Mt. Rushmore president's face.....probably carved by Japs artist for several months....yan ang orig japs marker pinaghirapan ukitin talaga, hinde yong ibang odd shape stones, pag nakita mo, nagdududa ka pa. Yong mga Japs markers ko MALALAKI, kaya wala kaduda-duda  ;D

 If you believe so much with the sea grave books, It's nothing and a useless book for treasure hunting. You are like reading stories of the WWII.
I don't believe much, I only help them corrected some errors. besides some YTHr used it as their inspirations.

Remember this always my friend, The japanese always change their code every site you dig, It's never uniform rock markers.
It doesn't interest us or not our concern if the Japs change their codes or not...simply bcoz WE NEVER DIG. Although we have several dozen buried sites....we are allergic in diggings.
Why dig, if we already FOUND AND RELOCATED several big vol open caves sites now guarded by our native assets?....In fact, right now, my partner Cliff will attempt to pull out / haul a few AU pieces from remote jungle sites. If they fail, next time, next month, next year ulit...ganun lang buhay treasure hunter, di tumitigil katetreasure hehehe, oks?

You try all my rock markers with acid test if is an odd shape rock or a cemented rock.
No need bcoz some japs rock marker are molded on concrete and some are carved from rocks....so whats the point of testing with acids?

I hope to meet you soon to help your group solve the mysteries of yamashita treasure.
Thanks for your concern, but No NEED bcoz we solve the mysteries of Yam treasures decades ago already. Remember our old folks had recovered 10,000 metric tons during martial law days.
 They tech us how they did it before, thats why we know how they did it....YAM MYSTERY SOLVE matagal naaaa...,....oks?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 12:08:13 AM
Northstar,

For your perusal....here are the examples of our Japs rock(boulder) marker....well defined and well carved. The pictures , I already posted it in several treasure forums and some of YTHr here had already seen some of it.

1) 10 foot Smiling Face carved on 70 foot high cliff wall........its Pinoy version of Mt. Rushmore's face carvings.
2) Skull Mountain.....the whole mountain was shaped into skull like the Phantom's skull mountain ,hehehe Boy Lara was excited when he saw it on the way to Manila from Cagayan.
3) Perfectly Cut Boulder .... a house size boulder was perfectly cut into two, the edge is so sharp...looks like cut by 50 footer circular saw?
4) Heart of Valencia.....a 20 ton boulder was carved and shape into a heart, the boulder nearby was carved into hole and several pieces of gold bars was recovered hidden inside.
5) Triangle, Arrow and Square......carved into rock boulder.
6) 20 footer ARROW (see through, tagusan ang butas).....carved from an rock island in Isabela.
7) 20 footer STAR (see through, tagusan ang butas) carved from a cliffwall in Ticao Island, Masbate.
8) Face Cave and vagina.......20 footer cave with a face ...and 2 feet carved vagina on its forehead.
9) Eagle Rock.........a 50 ton rock boulder was carved into eagle (wings/beak) with 5 feet X mark carved by circular saw.
10)  A Huge Japs carved LAPIDA (2ft. by 4 ft.)......carved with japanese character on top of the cave in Montalban, Rizal
11) 5 feet CLOCK....carved into 150 feet high cliffwall...MOntalban, Rizal.

Those are just examples of our JAPS MARKER collections (I never included the smaller ones, only the bigger ones)...well defined...well carved, even a 5 yr old kid can identify it from a far..... :o
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 05, 2010, 12:28:20 AM
Gboy,
 That Number 3 you mentioned will be mine soon  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 05, 2010, 02:46:37 AM
Gboy

Considering all the markers that you have mention for your big time sites, how will you locate the treasure in that area? What are your basis or scientific explanations to locate the treasure accurately? How deep is your educational estimation of the treasure site?

Do you believed in your native folks that recovered 10,000 tons of gold? The native folks are well trained by the Japanese Yakuza to operate in gold bar scam. They used this people to convince gold buyers that the treasure was found in the cave. The Japanese must be crazy if they put all 10,000 tons of gold in an open cave. The tunnel must at least 100 feet below the ground with concealed entrance from tap soil down to 100 ft level. you cannot see the tunnel unless you dig down 100 ft. Since you have an allergies in digging, treasures are very far from your imaginations.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 04:27:04 AM
Gboy,
 That Number 3 you mentioned will be mine soon  ;D ;D ;D
It is a giveaway for you....we are allergic on diggings.
(Balato ko na syo yan....allergic kami sa diggings)  :D

Northstar,

Considering all the markers that you have mention for your big time sites, how will you locate the treasure in that area? What are your basis or scientific explanations to locate the treasure accurately? How deep is your educational estimation of the treasure site?
Aha...that is our SECRET.... ;D

Do you believed in your native folks that recovered 10,000 tons of gold? The native folks are well trained by the Japanese Yakuza to operate in gold bar scam. They used this people to convince gold buyers that the treasure was found in the cave. The Japanese must be crazy if they put all 10,000 tons of gold in an open cave. The tunnel must at least 100 feet below the ground with concealed entrance from tap soil down to 100 ft level. you cannot see the tunnel unless you dig down 100 ft. Since you have an allergies in digging, treasures are very far from your imaginations.
   The 10,000 metric tons recovered by our old folks during Martial law days was a product of their TH hardwork.
    FYI....Our main live pointer for the recovery of those 10,000 metric tons was Col. Shadow (nom de guere)...Chief Of Intel 14th Infa. during WW2, He is the one who planned the capture of Yamashita and the interrogations of Yamashita Intel staff before they give it to Americans. The Intel attack plan on Kiangan drawn on Manila paper was still with us....including the Japs Flag.
    Capt. Marcos was just his subordinate (saling pusa lang sa grupo nila yan eh). Since Col. Shadow had more or less 30,000 WW2 guerrillas intel at his disposal....almost all BURIED TREASURE INFOS IN THE NORTH hidden by Japs was given to their Chief...Col. Shadow. Thats why in 1965 Pres. Marcos joined Col. Shadow treasure hunting team to recover the hidden treasures....rest is history.

    During martial law days 50% of those treasure found and recovered by Col. Shadow team were given to Pres. Marcos, the other 50% treasure found by Col Shadow and his Marcos/native assets was left untouched ( some big vol tunnel were just inventored, pictured and taken 2 bars sample per stockpile) and the other cave/tunnel sires are reburied in several open caves sites and guarded by Col. Shadow loyal native assets.
    And these are the open cave/tunnel sites that we slowly and meticulously, explored and  relocated thru these years...and so far, we found some of them. Col Shadow and his native guardians are now dead....only the (Col./native guardians) sons are alive (2nd generations)...and they are the ones who will continue the treasure hunting activities of their old folks.
    BTW, my old folks in 70's is just tauhan lang ni Col. shadow  ;D....thats why we know what happened then.

    In other words...the Open cave/tunnel that we relocated are NO LONGER JAPS HIDDEN TREASURE (bcoz it was already found in 1970's) but Col. Shadows and his team hidden treasures already, and fortunately we are the "sons" or 2nd generation of their previous TH team,. kaya SA AMIN NA YAAAAAAAN... ;D ;D ;D
    Yan ang tinatawag na "TREASURE SAVINGS"  during their Marcos TH days.....kung kumukupit ang japs ng treas...si Col. shadow pa kaya, Chief Intel yon, magulang at segurista din...
 
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 04:54:12 AM
Northstar,

   FYI....before Col. Shadow died in 1989...his instructions to his son (Budz) my TH bestfriend/partner...is simple. Since some of their recovered treasure given to Marcos was confiscated by CIA and PCGG.
The remaining "treasure savings" or hidden or reburied treasure by their TH team:....50% for filipino people...30% for WW2 veterans bcoz they are the ones (thousands Intel guerrillas who provide them treas infos in WW2)...and remaining 20%...is for us...syempre, oks?  ;D
   Who knows if we have an honest new President...we can compromise with these reburied treas sites?  >:(
Thats why when Col. Shadow recovered these treasures...they don't have geo intruments, they never use japs marker...all they have are WW2 GUERRILLAS LIVE POINTER who personally saw and witness those burials or treas hideouts. And that is also our style in recovering treasure....using LIVE POINTER/TREAS GUARDIAN, bakit pa namin pahirapan ang sarili namin mag analyze ng mga bato2, kung may live pointer/treas guardian naman.

Gener,
   FYI: Every 100-200 meters in your town....there are buried treasures bcoz it is well known retreat areas of the Japs...How could we possibly know it?...The WW2 intel guerrillas was enjoying watching the japs hide or buried it there (pinagmamasdsn lang nila ang japs habang binabaon)....and all these treas infos was given to their Intel Chief...Col. Shadow, oks?  ;D
   
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 05, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Gboy,
 Certainly i know that, thats why im going to pull something again this season... ;D, some says that we are monkeys looking for nuts but cannot find the tree,,,not for me and not for many. someone has opened the pandoras box and its so easy to find this things... ;D
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 06:23:53 PM
Yam THr,

The japanese thought that when they buried these treasures...nobody watching them...wrong assumption.
They never realize that they are here in the Philippines, surrounded by civilians (WW2 intel guerrillas), their treasure burials and hideouts are being monitored and watch.

Ex:
1) If the Japs hide the treasure in Solano Elem School...an WW2 Intel immediately put on his report the exact room location wherein the treasure was buried underneath, their est. depth, how many soldiers, etc,etc...and give to their report to their Intel CHief.

2) How could Col. Shadow possibly know the "secret exit/entrance" of caves and tunnels...simple, several WW2 intel guerrillas, monitored the entombment of treasure in cave/tunnel, they watch were the Japs exited the small exit and cover with stones.....when the Japs left the area, a WW2 guerrilla immediately observe the small exit covered with stone, and report it to their higher ups, thats why when Col. Shadow revisited or relocated the area, they immediately open the rock cover, went inside the small exit/entrance, bypassing the bomb traps on the mouth of the cave/tunnel.....thats how they did it....no maps, no geo instruments, no codes...etc...THEY SIMPLY USE RELIABLE...INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION (A-1)....LIVE POINTER AND WITNESS...thats how simple they treasure hunt during that time (1970-80's) ganun lang kasimple magtreasure sa panahon nila, oks? Yon ang ginagaya namin.

I remember when we are doing some diggings before, an old woman approach us and wandering what the heck we are doing in that dig hole. We told her that we are looking for Japs buried treasure. The old woman give us a suggestion..."If I were you, don't waste your time diggings,...just ask the Japanese where they hide their treasure"...we are speechless".. ;D ;D ;D
(Ay naku mga totoy, wag na kayo maghirap maghukay2 dyan...tanungin nyo na lang ang Hapon kung saan nilagay nila ang treasure, para di na kayo mahirapan maghanap...sabay alis ng matanda ....may punto din si lola...hehehe)

Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 05, 2010, 07:52:40 PM
Gboy

You are now starting to show your weaknesses. Live pointers has already been a long time debate. Many had been a victims of this live pointers.They claimed that they had seen the Japanese buried treasure exactly in this location. But what happen? nothing is inside. If your live pointer is for real, he had seen the Japs hide the treasure in that area. I'm sure he cannot exactly locate the treasure The best example is the GMA 7 Iwitness story of Kara David. The old man folk there is an example of live pointer. He can remember if where is the location of the buried boxes, but he cannot locate the exact location. I'm sure that this is also your problem right now.

Remember this amigo, treasure is not as easy as what you are thinking, it is a painstaking activities that needs determinations, endurance and patience. If you can point me a tunnel 100 ft below the ground, that is a sure A1 treasure site. Caves covered by big stone only, plenty of bullets, bombs, guns and canteen etc.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 05, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
This foot marking means 5 meters ahead. The thickness of this foot marker is 1/8 of an inch. very thin. We found this at 75 ft level. Can you expect to find this kind of thin/ flat flat stone at 75 ft. level.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 05, 2010, 09:11:15 PM
Zanjie

This leaf marker in a cemented rock is the same with your post in my email add. The leaf is an  arrow going downward. We found this at 82 ft level. This arrow marker means 4 meters downward to find another clue.

Zanjie please post your leaf marker here to show them all
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on May 05, 2010, 10:33:21 PM
You are close to your 100 foot level  so you will be seeing your tunnel soon which you said is a sure sign of a big deposit. Good Luck ! Share your finds with us here even just pictures will be satisfactory.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
Northstar,

You are now starting to show your weaknesses. Live pointers has already been a long time debate. Many had been a victims of this live pointers.They claimed that they had seen the Japanese buried treasure exactly in this location. But what happen? nothing is inside. If your live pointer is for real, he had seen the Japs hide the treasure in that area. I'm sure he cannot exactly locate the treasure
   If our live pointer was non-existence or fake....How can you explain, how the heck Col. Shadow and our old folks was able to recover more or less 10,000 metric tons of gold...FULLY DOCUMENTED (gold stockpile pictures/bank docus,etc). if his live pointer assets are fake, aber?
What is it...they just make magic to produce 10,000 metric tons? hehehe Do you know how big are 10,000 metric tons....it came from several treas sites all over Central/Northern Luzon.
   One big vol site example: Col. Shadow recovered in 1970's was in Aparri , Cagayan...they salvaged a Japs cargo ship full of gold and transferred the treasure hoard to nearby caves and reburied it.
   Another example: Is the Japs cargo plane who crashed and slammed into Sierra Madre jungle, Col. Shadow TH team/natives recovered the treasure hoard and reburied it to nearby caves, now guarded by native guardians....etc,etc.
    The treas cave/tunnel sites I have been mentioning to you are FULLY DOCUMENTED with proof (gold stockpile pictures, cave sites, etc,etc) hehehe this is not your usual live pointer stories...this is fully documented, in fact sample gold bars have been sold...little by little.

Remember this amigo, treasure is not as easy as what you are thinking, it is a painstaking activities that needs determinations, endurance and patience.
  Of course TH is difficult....however if you have complete treas infos and extensive research...its not difficult.
   
FYI...looking for treasure is NOT OUR PROBLEM, BCOZ WE HAVE FOUND / RELOCATED IT ALREADY ( I have pictures beside the treas cave site  ;D pasekreto at mabilisan ang kuha ng picture baka makita kami ng land owner hehehe di kasi nya alam may malaking laman sa loob hehehe)...the AU stockpile is still there just like what Col. Shadow had mentioned and told. One minor problem we encounter in one cave site (we have others cave sites also)...we don't own the land...we are still thinking what is the better ways to "boladas or diskarte" the land owner. Probably we will lease the land or put up some reforestration...or whatever....other cave sites is remote area.
Ang mahalaga...WE HAVE FOUND IT  :o...How to start to haul, thats supposed to be secret , right?   :-*




   
   
     
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gboy on May 05, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Northstar,

BTW...latest update:
   Budz (Col. Shadow son/my TH partner) got angry lately bcoz the native treasure guardians...attempted to sell and they were caught by police/mayor and their gold bars were confiscated...now they are wanted and hiding. Budz sent message to native guardians...not to touch anything (just like late Col. Shadow instructions before) bcoz that is his family's treasure...wait for his instruction and diskarte para di mamonitor ng mga pasaway sa tabi2.... :'(
   If you think we are still looking for it, your wrong, bcoz we have already found the reburied 4 cave/tunnel sites (w/ pictures)...our assignment is to relocate all Col. Shadow reburied cave/tunnel sites...more or less dozen cave/tunnel sites...4-5 cave sites pa lang narelocate / nahanap ng grupo..

 
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: goldfish on May 06, 2010, 06:17:28 AM
Zanjie

This leaf marker in a cemented rock is the same with your post in my email add. The leaf is an  arrow going downward. We found this at 82 ft level. This arrow marker means 4 meters downward to find another clue.

Zanjie please post your leaf marker here to show them all

Northstar,

how sure are you that the leaf is a marker? and not a natural fossil? We have recovered fossilized leaf in our site but its nature's way of making art of its own...
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: t_hunter44 on May 06, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
I totally agree with Goldfish as far as the Leaf is concerned. The Japanese use solid markers like Rocks, Hardwood or Trees. A leaf will deteriorate in due time and more so if water or moisture is involved. Our 2 cents worth as we don't claim to be experts as some people do.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 06, 2010, 02:39:20 PM
Goldfish

Do you understand what a fossils means? Look at that closely if that is a fossilized. A fossilized leaf can be a leaf made of minerals million years ago. The one that I posted is made of cement. Acid test will identify if what is the content of the rock.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 06, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
HHmmm........

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1037/leaffossil.jpg)

Just an observation.............
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 06, 2010, 09:13:36 PM
Janner

Very good observations amigo. The leaf does not bent because the Japanese used a pure cement and placed the leaf in the middle of the pure cement When you broke it the leaf is still inside the dried pure cement.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 06, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
considering the amount of fossilized leaves that i have seen over the years, all were skeletons.
and that doesnt look like "cement"  more like sand stone or the like.....?

just an observation

Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: goldfish on May 07, 2010, 06:15:31 AM
Northstar,

Uhmmm...the picture is interesting, but i've seen several fossils already, and your sample is not quite different...I know fossils, because of my anthropology background, which includes archaelogy...In my opinion, the picture you posted was made through natural processes...though there are other items in the cement where you got the sample...

 :)
goldfish
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 01:45:22 AM
This illustration is a Reiki grid originated in Japan. I was so amazed that my isometric view fits the Reiki grid. Maybe this another coincidence. This Reiki grid has some magical power to heal sick people. They also claim that Reiki has been used by Jesus Christ to heal and create miracle
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 10, 2010, 02:52:56 AM
So better to know how we can apply this reiki grid in treasure hunting then,,,we can know all hidden treasures in the country by means of miracles...But connection with Jesus can be absurd. Jesus is chosen by God so he dont need to learn reiki to make miracles...He simply do it by the power from GOD...
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 03:13:17 AM
Gener

I don't exactly understand the explanations of reiki why did they included Jesus here. As for their explanations, The Reiki grid has already existed thousands and thousands of years. It's only Jesus has the power to apply Reiki in healing the sick people and making miracles. Then it was discovered by the Japanese about the healing power of Jesus.  Rei means spirits or luminosity of God while ki means vital energy or invisible life force. The combination of Rei and Ki creates a power to heal sick people. That's why i am asking the relationship about the coincidence of my isometric view and Reiki grid. Did the Japanese used the reiki grid as puzzle in  hiding their treasures?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 10, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
I remember the beginning of early 90s,,They are using a PYRAMIDAL pipe tubing to heal headache or distress and allegedly powerful enough to heal(it was even introduced in TV ads) is this also a form of reiki?.. ???
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 03:29:08 AM
sounds pretty weird to me, can imagine jesus walking around with a dotted piece of paper or a reiki or whatever it is...
Accordingly Jesus's power was from God and no other source.

and if the so called reiki grid originated in japan, how did it get to the middle east 2000 yrs ago?
ah the mind ponders on...................
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 10, 2010, 03:40:16 AM
1922 :o! Jesus was here studying reiki?...or?
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 03:41:27 AM
Gener

I don't exactly understand the explanations of reiki why did they included Jesus here. As for their explanations, The Reiki grid has already existed thousands and thousands of years. It's only Jesus has the power to apply Reiki in healing the sick people and making miracles. Then it was discovered by the Japanese about the healing power of Jesus.  Rei means spirits or luminosity of God while ki means vital energy or invisible life force. The combination of Rei and Ki creates a power to heal sick people. That's why i am asking the relationship about the coincidence of my isometric view and Reiki grid. Did the Japanese used the reiki grid as puzzle in  hiding their treasures?


From Wikipedia
Reiki (English pronunciation: /ˈreɪkiː/ "霊気" in Shinjitai Japanese) is a spiritual practice[1] developed in 1922 by Japanese Buddhist Mikao Usui that uses a technique commonly called palm healing as a form of complementary and alternative medicine and is sometimes classified as oriental medicine by some professional bodies)

so, not thousands of years ago but only 88 yrs ago !

Reiki symbols from their site
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7544/1238292518xoffgd.jpg)

as you can see they bear no resemblance to a previous sketch !
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 03:52:27 AM
What is Yogin Christ Reiki™?

Yogin Christ ReikiTM is the higher octave of Reiki which was taught to Jesus Christ by the Essene Brotherhood and which He mastered in five years. Yogin refers to a Yogi or Yogini who has achieved Union (Yoga), body and soul, through Christhood.  The Essene Brotherhood are among the Hierarchy of Masters who gifted Gurudevi Ahalya Running Deer Mahakali and her Guru, Sant Mata Samyama Shangri-La, with this higher octave of Reiki, and gave them the boon of teaching this profound healing modality to the world.

 

Because Yogin Christ ReikiTM was given directly to the HARI OM TAT SAT Hermitage by the Essenes, the attunements may only be obtained from an authorized Yogin Christ ReikiTM Teacher.  Bhakti Light Feather heads the Yogin Christ ReikiTM training program for the HARI OM TAT SAT Hermitage.  Authorized teachers worlwide are Bhakti (Isang Urra), Gargi (Madie Gallaga) and Munishwarji Walking Tall.  Workshops, attunements and healing sessions are available at the Hermitage (in the United States and the Phillipines) and at the Mahavatar Babaji Ashram in Atlanta, Georgia.
7 Major Chakras
   
A Yogin Christ ReikiTM  session is an initiation or ascension to a higher frequency - a form of energy transfer used to pass restorative and healing abilities from the Hermitage Hierarchy of Masters, through the Reiki teacher, to the recipient.  This process calls on large amounts of Ki from Divine Source, transferred all at once to the auric field of both teacher and student.  Known physical symptoms are releasing and relaxing, greater sensitivity, changes in eating and sleeping patterns - all of which contribute to an increased expansion in one’s perception, experience and awareness.   

 

Unlike other forms of Reiki which use sacred symbols, Yogin Christ ReikiTM is used to amplify a student’s auric field to match the teacher’s energetic abilities for a few moments in a healing or for an extended period of time in an empowerment initiation or attunement.  It is an advanced healing modality effected through one’s own evolution, one’s surrender and willingness to serve, by the use of Yogin Christ Reiki.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 03:57:13 AM
This is the illustrations
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 10, 2010, 04:05:39 AM
Yogin Christ ReikiTM is the higher octave of Reiki which was taught to Jesus Christ by the Essene Brotherhood and which He mastered in five years...

I wonder if the source of this reiki thing is anti-christ? everyone knows that jesus is more than 2000 years ago, he cant go to japan to study reiki?. it conflicts with everything...quran and bible both mentioned that Jesus exists long ago and that was before the discovery of reiki...
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: admin on May 10, 2010, 04:10:26 AM
Yogin Christ ReikiTM is the higher octave of Reiki which was taught to Jesus Christ by the Essene Brotherhood and which He mastered in five years...

I wonder if the source of this reiki thing is anti-christ? everyone knows that jesus is more than 2000 years ago, he cant go to japan to study reiki?. it conflicts with everything...quran and bible both mentioned that Jesus exists long ago and that was before the discovery of reiki...

Haha.. that's funny, Gener. And that's a good question too!
TW
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 04:11:49 AM
Gener

I don't exactly understand the explanations of reiki why did they included Jesus here. As for their explanations, The Reiki grid has already existed thousands and thousands of years. It's only Jesus has the power to apply Reiki in healing the sick people and making miracles. Then it was discovered by the Japanese about the healing power of Jesus.  Rei means spirits or luminosity of God while ki means vital energy or invisible life force. The combination of Rei and Ki creates a power to heal sick people. That's why i am asking the relationship about the coincidence of my isometric view and Reiki grid. Did the Japanese used the reiki grid as puzzle in  hiding their treasures?


From Wikipedia
Reiki (English pronunciation: /ˈreɪkiː/ "霊気" in Shinjitai Japanese) is a spiritual practice[1] developed in 1922 by Japanese Buddhist Mikao Usui that uses a technique commonly called palm healing as a form of complementary and alternative medicine and is sometimes classified as oriental medicine by some professional bodies)

so, not thousands of years ago but only 88 yrs ago !

Reiki symbols from their site
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7544/1238292518xoffgd.jpg)

as you can see they bear no resemblance to a previous sketch !

Janner

What I am referring was the origin of reiki that existed thousand of years ago. The Japanese just discovered reiki in  1922. HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. The Japanese is not the origin of Reiki. HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 04:12:41 AM
and the Truth.................

Reiki is incompatible with Catholicism because it does not acknowledge Jesus as a divine Person and Saviour of mankind. Pantheism is a belief system that really resembles what the followers of Reiki are talking about. They believe in a universal energy – that has nothing to do with Jesus – something that gives life to human beings, and also rules the entire Reiki practice. The users of Reiki believe that they can use this energy to heal, but in reality they are practicing divination and a form of magic when they utilize these powers. (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, nos. 2111, 2116-17).

This one of those "Occult" beliefs, and looking at the names mainly Indian.. so, in my "Opinion" its a load of boloney and should be read while eating popcorn.. ;)
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Gener on May 10, 2010, 04:21:20 AM
....And,,Essence Brothers never mentioned in the BIBLE or QURAN either. If JESUS CHRIST mastered Reiki thousands of years ago,,,Where is His Certificate? 5 years study means DEGREE then where is his DIPLOMA?...Both Quran & Bible detailed all the movement and works of Jesus Christ and it never mentioned about any schools....
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 04:23:13 AM
and the Truth.................

Reiki is incompatible with Catholicism because it does not acknowledge Jesus as a divine Person and Saviour of mankind. Pantheism is a belief system that really resembles what the followers of Reiki are talking about. They believe in a universal energy – that has nothing to do with Jesus – something that gives life to human beings, and also rules the entire Reiki practice. The users of Reiki believe that they can use this energy to heal, but in reality they are practicing divination and a form of magic when they utilize these powers. (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, nos. 2111, 2116-17).

This one of those "Occult" beliefs, and looking at the names mainly Indian.. so, in my "Opinion" its a load of boloney and should be read while eating popcorn.. ;)


The author of “REIKI for Christians” describes the “laying on of hands” therapy called REIKI and responds to the doubts and reserves expressed by some Christians with regard to its origins and practice.

He also proposes its use as particularly indicated for the followers of Jesus, who healed so many by laying hands on them and eventually left with believers the same mission (Mark, 16, 18).

In fact, the author of the Preface, Dom Irineu Danelon, Bishop of Lins, Coordinator of Sobriety Pastoral, National Conference of Bishops of Brazil, stresses that healing with hands is a gift from God which everyone is called to exercise.

The book concludes with a brief account of the author’s life, how he came to be a REIKI Master and what the therapy represents in his life and spirituality.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 04:26:50 AM
I think this says it all..............

Welcome to the Brotherhood of Essenes website
The Brotherhood of the Essenes is initiated order whose members are highly trained and highly skilled in the deeper aspects of occultism.

www.essenes.org

how about that, its that "Black magic" crock of........(can i say that?)
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 04:43:50 AM
I think this says it all..............

Welcome to the Brotherhood of Essenes website
The Brotherhood of the Essenes is initiated order whose members are highly trained and highly skilled in the deeper aspects of occultism.

www.essenes.org

how about that, its that "Black magic" crock of........(can i say that?)
Scientific Explanation for Reiki
There is a scientific explanation for Reiki that is based on scientific studies and factual information. This explanation has been presented as a testable hypothesis by James Oschman, Ph.D.

Dr. Oschman is a scientist with a conventional background who became interested in the practice of energy medicine. Through research, he discovered a number of important scientific studies that point to a scientific basis for energy medicine based on the laws of physics and biology. These findings are discussed in an interview, “Science and the Human Energy Field,” published in the Winter 2002 issue of Reiki News Magazine.

The electrical currents that run through every part of the human body provide the basis for Dr. Oschman’s hypothesis. These currents are present in the nervous system, organs, and cells of the body. For instance, the electrical signals that trigger the heartbeat travel throughout all the tissues of the body and can be detected anywhere on the body.

Ampere’s law indicates that when an electrical current flows through a conductor, an electromagnetic field is produced that reflects the nature of the current that created it. Tests with scientific instruments indicate that electromagnetic fields exist around the body and around each of the organs of the body, including the brain, heart, kidneys, liver, stomach, etc. The heart has the strongest field, which has been measured at a distance of 15 feet from the body.

The fields around each of the organs pulse at different frequencies and stay within a specific frequency range when they are healthy, but move out of this range when they are unhealthy. The hands of healers produce pulsing electromagnetic fields when they are in the process of healing, whereas the hands of non-healer do not produce these fields. When a healer places his or her hands on or near a person in need of healing, the electromagnetic field of the healer’s hands sweeps through a range of frequencies based on the needs of the part of the body being treated. Faraday’s law indicates that one electromagnetic field can induce currents into a nearby conductor and through this process, induce a similar field around it. In this way, a healer induces a healthy electromagnetic field around an unhealthy organ, thus inducing a healthy state in the organ. A detailed explanation of this hypothesis, including descriptions of the scientific studies, diagrams, and references is presented in the interview mentioned above.
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 04:47:34 AM
which means what...????
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 05:05:18 AM


 
   
Similarities between the
Healing of Jesus and Reiki
by William Lee Rand

John 14-12: "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me, can do the same miracles I have done, and even greater things than these will you do."

One of the outstanding aspects of Jesus' life was the miracles he worked. According to the Bible, Jesus walked on water, fed five thousand people with five loaves of bread and two fishes, changed water to wine and raised people from the dead. However, the most meaningful of his miracles were the healings he performed. These healings include: paralysis, lameness, fever, catalepsy, hemorrhage, skin disease, mental disorders, spirit possession, deafness and blindness. Many of these healings were accomplished by the laying on of hands. This is indicated frequently in the New Testament, Luke 4:40 states: "When the Sun was setting, the people brought to Jesus all who had various kinds of sickness, and laying his hand on each one, he healed them."

In Matthew 8:14-15, Jesus uses touch to heal Peter's mother-in-law of a fever. In Mark 1:40-42 Jesus uses his hands to heal a man with leprosy. This is also mentioned in Luke 5:12-13. Matthew 20:29-34 describes how Jesus healed two blind men by touching their eyes and in Mark 8:22-25 Jesus uses his hands to heal another blind man. In Mark 7:32 35 he uses touch to heal a man who is deaf and can't speak. In Luke 7:12-15, Jesus raises a dead man by touching his coffin and in Luke 8:49-55 Jesus uses touch to return a dead girl to life.

There are many similarities between the laying on of hands healing Jesus did and the practice of Reiki. One important similarity is the fact that Jesus could pass the power to heal on to others which is similar to the Reiki attunement process. We read in Luke 9:1-2 that Jesus gave his twelve disciples power to drive out all demons and to cure diseases. We do not know by what process Jesus gave healing power to his disciples, but the fact that he was able to pass it on to them indicates an important similarity with Reiki.

Another aspect of Jesus' healing practice that is similar to Reiki relates to faith. While faith was required for many of the healings he performed, it appears that the healings Jesus did with his hands did not require faith. Mark 6:5-6 states: "He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them. And he was amazed at their lack of faith." So, in spite of the fact that they did not believe, Jesus was still able to use laying on of hands to heal. This is one of the important aspects of Reiki: It does not require faith on the part of those receiving a treatment in order for the Reiki to work.

The fact that Jesus had secret teachings he gave only to those who he had given healing power is clearly indicated in Matthew 13:10-11 and Mark 4:10-12 & 34. Secret knowledge is also part of the Reiki teachings in that the symbols as well as the process of doing attunements are traditionally kept secret and only made available to those who take a Reiki class.

It is not known whether Jesus was born with the ability to heal through touch or if this was something he acquired. His activities between age twelve and thirty are not mentioned in the Bible. It has been suggested by several researchers that during this time Jesus traveled to the East and was schooled in many of the mystical teachings of India, Tibet and China. If this is so, it is possible that Jesus was initiated into a healing technique, during this time.

On the other hand, it is possible that Jesus was taught directly by God or the Holy Spirit or simply had these abilities from birth. There is some good information indicating that the healing methods of Jesus were preserved by the Church of the East and passed on by it's missionaries who traveled along the Silk Road and other trade routes to India, Tibet and China. It is possible that this information on healing could have been incorporated into the religious teachings of the East and therefore could have been the original source of the Reiki techniques that were used by Dr. Usui.

The early followers of Jesus' teachings were made up of several groups. One such group was the Gnostics. They practiced laying on of hands and professed to have a secret knowledge that had been passed on to them by Jesus and his disciples. The Gnostics were made up of many smaller groups some of which were known as the Docetists, the Marcionites, and the Carpocratians. They were united by their core beliefs which included: a personal experience of Jesus or the "kingdom of heaven within," their freedom and lack of rules, guidelines or creeds and their reliance on inspiration and inner guidance. Their existence is attested to by the Gnostic gospels which are part of the Nag Hamadi Library which was discovered in Egypt in 1959. The fact that Jesus had additional teachings not recorded in the Bible is attested to in a letter written in the second century AD by the early Church father, Clement of Alexandria. In Clement's letter, he spoke of a secret gospel of Mark which was based on the normal canonical one but with additions for special followers of Jesus, referred to as "those who were being perfected" and "those who are being initiated into the great mysteries."

When Christianity became organized after the second century, its teachings were centered around faith and the official teachings of the church, rather than healing or "good works" and inner guidance as practiced by the Gnostics. At this time, those promoting the organization of the church began subduing and banishing those Gnostics who would not conform to the authority of the newly developing Church. In addition they tried to destroy the Gnostic gospels. With the elimination of the Gnostics and the establishment of the Official Christian Church, the practice of laying on hands by lay Christians was strongly discouraged.

Jesus possessed great confidence in his ability and was able to heal in an instantaneous way with spectacular results. It is clear that he had perfected many skills and used them in conjunction to get the results he created. Clearly the Bible indicates that he did healing by laying on hands and also indicated that we could do the same. The teachings of Jesus, as well as the example he set are a great inspiration for us

 
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 05:08:47 AM
ok, thats enough,
no more long nonsensical posts or it will get locked...(Wrong Topic)

take it down to the Rant and Rave forum...


Thanks
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: NORTHSTAR on May 10, 2010, 06:33:58 AM
ok, thats enough,
no more long nonsensical posts or it will get locked...(Wrong Topic)

take it down to the Rant and Rave forum...


Thanks

Your way of explanations are so weak. wise man say only fools rush in. Never ever put your shoes on my feet because your shoes will never fits mind. Northstar is the answer to all your questions
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: jandenice on May 10, 2010, 06:36:51 AM
what?  ???
Title: Re: MY NORTHSTAR
Post by: Janner on May 10, 2010, 06:56:57 AM
Your way of explanations are so weak. wise man say only fools rush in. Never ever put your shoes on my feet because your shoes will never fits mind. Northstar is the answer to all your questions

well for Your "Arrogance" Mr NS, is this strong enough explanation for you...??

LOCKED !!