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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => Treasure Marks, Signs and Symbols of the Yamashita Treasure => Topic started by: agent7 on December 29, 2017, 02:03:50 AM
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Is this a marker?
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg.html)
in the second image the stone is like cemented in the middle.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg.html)
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The first picture clearly shows an X so you can look that up. I can't see any clear markings in the second picture.
TW
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You need more exploring before you can conclude. Better yet. bring an expert dowser then study the whole area.
Your "X" seemed new and not carved well. But the other marker could have been a real one only that it was erased so we don't now what that is. Anyway, keep looking.
Voyager
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Thanks guys for the response .... additional image :
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26238255_2210781502281091_1473173564_o_zpsyom8ibdu.jpg.html)
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Why did you just post the same picture five times?
TW
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Is the rock where the marker was carved basalt? If so, it was man modified not carved by nature. Was the area occupied by IJA during WW2? If yes, then you need a lot a investigating. One hint: there has to be a source of clean drinking water nearby...
Voyager
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Sorry Admin for the error... Im trying to upload other pictures...
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26194286_2210760532283188_84268580_o_zpsphzhw9r3.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26194286_2210760532283188_84268580_o_zpsphzhw9r3.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26195023_2210760685616506_2027257346_o_zpstjjcs252.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26195023_2210760685616506_2027257346_o_zpstjjcs252.jpg.html)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26194246_2210760515616523_1103341647_o_zpstmlvoodd.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26194246_2210760515616523_1103341647_o_zpstmlvoodd.jpg.html)
Sir, Voyager the area is occupied by IJA during WW2 and there is a falls near on the area...
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(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26241822_2215280991831142_766732830_n_zpsaqsz2ypy.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26241822_2215280991831142_766732830_n_zpsaqsz2ypy.jpg.html)
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Ok i"m convinced. That my friend is either a marker or a stone map (they're usually both). It's an open space so we can rule out pre-historic carvings. But a marker that big means it was planned by their engineering brigade so it's not an easy dig. Plus you'll be digging through class a & b basalt... One piece of advise: look for the give-away. It's usually near the load or a few meters away, hopefully it's sign is also carved in a basalt stone. You haven't told us if the area was occupied by IJA soldiers during WW2 so everything must be under control.
Your marker is carved in a big rock- try for the take pictures of the rock so yo can see it's shape; sometimes it's pointing to something.
Good luck and happy hunting!
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Thank You Voyager for the advice.... any signs for the give away? planning to go back there next week..
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You have to explore the whole area to locate the give away. BTW your second picture has a shape like that of an open fan super imposed by an inverted obtuse triangle. In the middle is a man with two eyes looking at the side. Try to explore the area where it is looking, you might find a sign there. But check if the shape of the fan corresponds to a bomb in the Japanese signs - so be extra careful. At the right lower corner are two horizontal lines- one is shorter than the other. Could mean two meters distance from the marker or two meters deep. This could be the give away. Study the markers around your area because even dowsers cannot locate the give-away; they mostly locate the biggest (and usually) the deepest load.
If ever you decide to dig, you need an expert dowser - one who had a record of "hits" not just a newbie. But usually the load is very near to the "X', but not necessarily below it. But again, it will be a very, very hard job. You will need rock drills, pumps and dexpan. And dedicated men.
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Thanks voyager for the advice... we have a friend and they are professional TH maybe its better that i will just give them this project but the problem they are now too busy with there business .. is it true that there are spirit guarding the treasure?
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Yes there are bad spirits around. But since Jesus Christ already defeated Satan by His death, they can be defeated by sincere prayers. We prayed for protection before every meals and before we dig (at the site). We never encountered problems caused by the spirits. One THunter I know, prays for protection at the site before they dig and prays for thanksgiving after the dig. Also effective.
BTW at closer look of your second picture, what looked like an open fan is actually a heart so no danger of a bomb there. The man could be looking at the give away since it's just two meters deep.
Voyager
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Thanks again voyager.. hopefully i can find the giveaway... honestly its my first time.. thank you for the help.....
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Good luck and always be safe!
TW
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Looking back, I think the best and most economical way to become a Thunter is to be an apprentice in an operation managed by an experienced group -NOT YOURS. There, learn all you can. Also master the THAPI and VISMIN codes first so that when you encounter a marker or sign you will understand it. Of course, NOT all signs/markers are written there or the interpretations are correct but some are accurate. Also, read the book, "GENERAL YAMASHITA's DREAM BOOK.... " by Aquila Chrysaetos. You can pick many good ideas there. But most important of all, read the previous posts in this forum. There are treasure trove of ideas here from experienced hunters themselves that will really prepare you for your Thunting activities. Finally, remember that Thunting is just a hobby, maybe an expensive one, but a hobby nevertheless. Unless you're a son of Bill Gates or Jack Ma, etc. with nothing better to do, you should have a steady income for your personal/family needs.
Having said that, Welcome to the exciting world of Treasure Hunting! Be safe always!
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Thanks admin and voyager! My wife is the one convincing me because in there town where we took the pictures there are some gardeners become instant millionaire because of the treasure and now they are businessmen. Thanks for the advice voyager.. there are many signs in my wife town even infront of there house there is a mountain in the middle there is a tunnel but no one has a guts to enter that tunnel only in the entrance they got cup and saucer with gold decorations.
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Update Guys.. The turtle like stone is looking into the stone with X mark (1meter from falls)
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/PAGONG_zpszjn6ppbo.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/PAGONG_zpszjn6ppbo.jpg.html)
Turle like stone close up
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg.html)
This stone with 2 eye is looking
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26972167_2236412939717947_1258999820_o_zpsuypvmzqs.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26972167_2236412939717947_1258999820_o_zpsuypvmzqs.jpg.html)
in this stone with V shape marking
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26909207_2236412643051310_362223084_o_zpsch6fkp12.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26909207_2236412643051310_362223084_o_zpsch6fkp12.jpg.html)
sadly the detector is not available... :(
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Your area is a typical place where IJA will leave their loot. But you have not told us if there was indeed a history of Japanese occupation in that particular area. Look for living eyewitness. Meanwhile explore the falls and the cave. You might find some give away there. But be careful. You should have locals accompany you in your explorations. The book I told you will give you some clues.
If you ask me I won't start digging yet and won't be too reliable on detectors. If you've been reading this forum you will understand why.
Voyager
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Thanks for the advice voyager we will try to ask some living eye witness.. i just download the book sir..
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Clear sign of a site with multiple deposits. There is at least one easy find under the pile of rocks. To find that is a tricky task.
Consider these tips.
1.) Research for signs markings and history, th books or online.
2.) Study markers of the site and use bearing, triangulation.
3.) Use scanning and good dowser combined.
4.) Have time to analyse, your priority should be the spot of small deposit.
5.) Final decision. Digging.
You fail probbly for handling budget and human error on safety. The last but not least is engineering application should be applied in operation, plenty of experienced digger, forumer here will help you for that.
Happy hunting,
fom1113
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Thank you fom1113 for the tip.. im reading the book ''General Yamashita's Dream Book" this book is very informative . Thank you voyager for the advice..
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Voyager, may brother in law found before a old military water bottle in the falls near on the site... can i consider that the area is occupied by Japanese? its hard to find a living witness...
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If you can't find a living witness, then talk to old people there. They would have stories from their parents or grandparents that your site or nearby area was indeed occupied by the IJA. Maybe you should explore that falls - look for caves or crevasses or even holes near the falls especially caves hidden by the falling water. Ask yourself: If I'm the IJA, where would I hid my loot? Or maybe you should first explore the cave in front of your wife's house.It should be easier having no water. Now that you've read that book, you should have some basic ideas on precaution.
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Good day guys.. Thanks voyager.. we found a box of concrete in the falls there is a two round hole and there is a stone near on the area with a square sign
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/27399678_1973932349313977_269623249_n_zpsi45ilknx.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/27399678_1973932349313977_269623249_n_zpsi45ilknx.jpg.html)
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that's another positive marker but that could mean hard work. markers like that are usually placed near the falls. some have arrows pointing down in the dividing line and have numbers written on it.
as i said it could mean hard work if you dig, so if you ask me i would first explore the cave, then the falls later.
Voyager
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thanks voyager! planning to go back there and clear the cave entrance because it is now covered with soil... and try the dowsing stick on that cemented box...
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Good day guys.. Thanks voyager.. we found a box of concrete in the falls there is a two round hole and there is a stone near on the area with a square sign
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/27399678_1973932349313977_269623249_n_zpsi45ilknx.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/27399678_1973932349313977_269623249_n_zpsi45ilknx.jpg.html)
That is not cement. That is a marker rock with code. Smashing that rock will do nothing but spend your time and energy plus you will loose the code marker. The cut is made by using a large bolo knife and hammer.
Z
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As a rule, DO NOT DESTROY your markers! That's the error of diggers so tell your men that's your no. 1 rule! (unless it's a rock enclosed treasure). I made that mistake too before much to my regret! Take many pictures of your markers from different angles, measure its dimension and draw the whole area placing your markers with its angles in relation to other markers. (ZOBEX had a good blog on this topic).
Voyager
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Thanks zobex .. near on that concrete box there is boulder retaining wall 1.5meter height ... there is also a half face stone figure looking on the retaining wall....
voyager, i also plan to break the shell of the turtle sign but i think better i will study first all of the marker... thanks again guys for the advice!
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Thanks zobex .. near on that concrete box there is boulder retaining wall 1.5meter height ... there is also a half face stone figure looking on the retaining wall....
voyager, i also plan to break the shell of the turtle sign but i think better i will study first all of the marker... thanks again guys for the advice!
The Turtle Shell is only a code marker. Is the head up or down ? ? A full face means one thing, a half face means something else. If you have to dig anything, dig UNDER the stone that has the cut on it. Looks like it was placed there. You would have to winch the stone sideways and then go straight down under where the stone was at.
Z
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Thanks for the hint zobex.
This is the turtle im talking about.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg.html)
base on the book "General Yamashita's dream book"
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg.html)
The shell of the turtle is like a concrete with line ...
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Almost same as mine. But i got a turtle head below the turtle head i got heart shape with a hole. Currently we are at 23-24ft
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Your case seems to ring a bell. I've encountered that before, although mine was smaller and not turtle shaped. Mine was triangle-shaped rock and at one side of that rock was placed another black bulging stone as big as a man's head. It is actually a pointer - pointing to the load. That stone was in the middle of a river, about 10 meters from the load. (Our digger broke it, and surprise! nothing there!!). About 100 meters away was a pink turtle with head also pointing to the direction of the load but had a drawing on its back on the placement of the loads. Markers like that clarifies and strengthens your position. So never, ever break it unless you are 101% sure there's something inside because you will go back to it later several times for clarification.
Voyager
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Almost same as mine. But i got a turtle head below the turtle head i got heart shape with a hole. Currently we are at 23-24ft
Nice rinbee..
Your case seems to ring a bell. I've encountered that before, although mine was smaller and not turtle shaped. Mine was triangle-shaped rock and at one side of that rock was placed another black bulging stone as big as a man's head. It is actually a pointer - pointing to the load. That stone was in the middle of a river, about 10 meters from the load. (Our digger broke it, and surprise! nothing there!!). About 100 meters away was a pink turtle with head also pointing to the direction of the load but had a drawing on its back on the placement of the loads. Markers like that clarifies and strengthens your position. So never, ever break it unless you are 101% sure there's something inside because you will go back to it later several times for clarification.
Voyager
Noted voyager.. thanks for the advice. this forum is very helpful for a newbie like me... Thanks guys...
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Thanks for the hint zobex.
This is the turtle im talking about.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg.html)
base on the book "General Yamashita's dream book"
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg.html)
The shell of the turtle is like a concrete with line ...
IJA did not use Inches or Feet. They used CM and M. Measure round and square holes in CM. 1 CM = 1M, that is, measure hole sides and depth in CM and convert that to M .
Z
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Thanks for the hint zobex.
This is the turtle im talking about.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26941955_2236412043051370_676726478_o%201_zpsw9kk06ku.jpg.html)
base on the book "General Yamashita's dream book"
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/turtle_zpsokbc6yuk.jpg.html)
The shell of the turtle is like a concrete with line ...
IJA did not use Inches or Feet. They used CM and M. Measure round and square holes in CM. 1 CM = 1M, that is, measure hole sides and depth in CM and convert that to M .
Z
I guess I am getting old but that black section of the rock just makes me think it is cement added onto a real rock and that cement has the code chopped into it.
Z
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Thanks zobex for the advice.. yes , i think it is a cement added on the rock... that's why im thinking to check on that portion...
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sorry, but i can't see any turtle.
now, try to compare with the pictures below.
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sorry, but i can't see any turtle.
now, try to compare with the pictures below.
i thought it was a turtle because of the shell like with cross lines.. it means all turtle sign is similar to the image you share ? sorry zeeker im just newbie ..
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sorry, but i can't see any turtle.
now, try to compare with the pictures below.
i thought it was a turtle because of the shell like with cross lines.. it means all turtle sign is similar to the image you share ? sorry zeeker im just newbie ..
another thing, check if those signs or markings are man made.
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yes , it is man all made...
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By comparing or application of sign tru detection you can easily pinpoint the location of small deposits. Dowsing the area will just bring you to the largest and deepest deposit but other dowsers uncovered the secret by avoiding the big load instead proceed to a certain location by following a familiar compass codes that can be read in some codebooks.
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I believe that is nature's fever, not a man-made marker. There are lots of them around. Sorry po.
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Looks like a natural characteristics of rocks in that area.
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Common sense if the whole rock is natural then those cracks would extend naturally up to the other side of the rock. Look the half part was just molded and stuck to a natural rock at the left part. They were expert in producing natural looking rocks and soil back fill.
This is what i am telling to lot of hunters "you must outwit the cleverness of Japanese sign and marker making ingenuity in order to succeed" it is a starting point for your success...
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Common sense if the whole rock is natural then those cracks would extend naturally up to the other side of the rock. Look the half part was just molded and stuck to a natural rock at the left part. They were expert in producing natural looking rocks and soil back fill.
This is what i am telling to lot of hunters "you must outwit the cleverness of Japanese sign and marker making ingenuity in order to succeed" it is a starting point for your success...
Thanks foam1113.. below the turtle we found a heart shape stone the sharp part is pointing the turtle.
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Voyager told me last time to explore the falls or cave.. we found a 2 stone marker pointing the riprap but their is a skull shape of stone that's why we stop investigating in that area..
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good decision there is poison there. Go back to your picture no. 2: it had a man looking at something with 2 short horizontal lines below it. It could mean 2 meters.
V
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good decision there is poison there. Go back to your picture no. 2: it had a man looking at something with 2 short horizontal lines below it. It could mean 2 meters.
V
2meters from that stone we found a stone with a triangle sign... we are planning to dig this month starting in the turtle shape stone..
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Thank you fom1113 for the tip. I'm reading the book ''General Yamashita's Dream Book" this book is very informative. Thank you, voyager, for the advice..
sir do you have a link for free download of the book?
thanks
egm
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Sorry i dont have the link about that book but i got the book not the digital one that was given to me by a co th from mindanao.
I found out that some of the contents are correct like those pentagonal style of burial deposits in some General Homma site in north Luzon although the details are incomplete but it gives you an idea or clue and uplifting you spirit in this TH task.
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Thank you fom1113 for the tip. I'm reading the book ''General Yamashita's Dream Book" this book is very informative. Thank you, voyager, for the advice..
sir do you have a link for free download of the book?
thanks
egm
Good day bro.. I'm sorry bro i bought the book online...
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Is this a marker?
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg.html)
in the second image the stone is like cemented in the middle.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg.html)
If the carving deepnes is similar it could be. It could be just a crack.
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The X definitely looks like a marker. Not sure about the second picture.
TW
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If the carving deepnes is similar it could be. It could be just a crack.
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Cement filler of chiseled hole. The not an X is a direct and distance marker.
Z
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its been two years ... now we start digging into the site... we found 7pcs. of bullets and a bronze engine cap ... any site recomendation same as photobucket? i cant upload the pictures....
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Is this a marker?
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26142489_2029089250662237_2042169476_o_zps8pxs1eyj.jpg.html)
in the second image the stone is like cemented in the middle.
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/naval_2009/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/naval_2009/media/26179055_2029092757328553_1502594299_o_zpsjievtgpl.jpg.html)
Looks like a perfect x crack.
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Can't tell. What is it?
TW