The Southeast Asian Treasure Connection
YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => General Yamashita's Treasure Questions & Info => Topic started by: dahvos on March 07, 2011, 07:17:55 PM
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Have there been any treasure finds on Leyte island in the P.I. that anyone is aware of. I know close to the end of the war there was alot of heavy fighting there expecialy the biggest naval battle in history. I am just curious because i may have a potential dig site on my land!! I would be willing to disclose more information if there are any basis of truth to why there might be japanese looted gold there.
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Some Cebu based TH group are operating in Leyte and who knows your land maybe up for something. BUT, my piece of advice bro hire a trusted group to first scan/detect your land before you can conclude there's really buried in there otherwise a waste of money and other resources if you will dig useless holes. Just my opinion bro. ;)
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i already have scanned the location of said whereabouts.... and i have a reading of something definately there in the exact location of what the information passed to me said its about a 10 by 15 foot area on a steep but low hill taking up a hectar of land. Even though there are no japanese markings or a map i have some fairly reliable sources and not to mention the japs had set up a very brief base of operations on my land. Digging has already started and my igorot master metallurgist who has experiance in ventures such as these says the soil is alot softer there just in that spot and spade marks have been found on some buried stones. Already we have dug six feet but the rains have been bad the past two weeks in our area. Sometime mabee after i find what the object is i will have a long but interesting story to tell.
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i already have scanned the location of said whereabouts.... and i have a reading of something definately there in the exact location of what the information passed to me said its about a 10 by 15 foot area on a steep but low hill taking up a hectar of land. Even though there are no japanese markings or a map i have some fairly reliable sources and not to mention the japs had set up a very brief base of operations on my land. Digging has already started and my igorot master metallurgist who has experiance in ventures such as these says the soil is alot softer there just in that spot and spade marks have been found on some buried stones. Already we have dug six feet but the rains have been bad the past two weeks in our area. Sometime mabee after i find what the object is i will have a long but interesting story to tell.
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Ok bro, good luck on your project just stay safe. Just share your story when you hit something in there for us to know. Japs operation, when was that bro? Is it during the war or at present time?
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it was definitely durring the war. To my knowledge all of them were massacred but who knows!! And about markings i mean like symbols or pictographs, what we found are just spade nicks from when a shovel hits a stone.
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some pics of progress..........we hit concrete two days ago!!!! was raining for a while so no work for almost a month an a half and a recent npa/army clash near my land resulting in a few of the bad guys hiding for a day against my will on our property!!!!
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do you think that in 50 years this concrete cement is just looked like this.. .. ??? ??? just my opinion
Raqz ;)
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thats not cement mate.....thats the original packed clay earth walls of the hole when the japs dug it, the cement is on the bottom
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so awesome if that hole is a work of nature!..but i doubt it....looks like a figure of a vault buried there.
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the hole isnt a work of nature the japs had a base of operations on my land for quite some time.......there is even what looks like the actual command center in a man made cave in a waterfall close by my land with what appears to be a concrete table in it!!! havent really explored that cave its hard to reach but some of our local tribal friends have been in there and have described what they saw in there, after i dig out what i have i plan on exploring that area and a couple other places on the tribal land that i have permission to visit and survey!!! but anyway they dug out this hole perfectly and packed the sides of the clay earth smooth then poured concrete on top of whatever they buried. According to an eyewitness there is alot of gold buried here. But i am not telling the whole lucky story until i find something. the only thing i will say is that i just bought this land and before i purchased this land i had no idea that there was gold on it nor did/does the previous owner. The ex owner is a freind of my fiancee and sold us 30 hectars for the price of 10,000 u.s which is a very good price, because he had never used this land nor been to it before he sold it. The funny thing is that his father knew about the gold but died during the war.
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Dahvos,
You're so lucky Bro. Keep diggin and pull out the yellow metal buried in there. Good luck... ;) ;) ;)
Best regards,
Elyong
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my problem is probably be going to sell it... or at least a good portion of it....i am in the u.s navy with a pretty high clearance...the last people i know of the area that pulled out bar gold got it all jacked from the philippine army which was just supposed to collect the 30percent!!! so i have alot of questions on how to sell it without getting it all stollen...........i am half minded to melt whatever i find and say i got it from my uncles mine which is near davao..............by the way this land is not in leyte..isandbut, i will tell u the island where it is at when i find whatever i find.......i have connections to sell. but my fear is going to have to deal with shady characters...............should i hire a bunch of my special forces merc friends or should i do it legit.
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Dahvos,
In that case, selling your items and looking for legit buyer/s, I think you have to PM Sir TW. I am sure he can be of help. ;) ;) ;)
Best regards,
Elyong
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my problem is probably be going to sell it... or at least a good portion of it....i am in the u.s navy with a pretty high clearance...the last people i know of the area that pulled out bar gold got it all jacked from the philippine army which was just supposed to collect the 30percent!!! so i have alot of questions on how to sell it without getting it all stollen...........i am half minded to melt whatever i find and say i got it from my uncles mine which is near davao..............by the way this land is not in leyte..isandbut, i will tell u the island where it is at when i find whatever i find.......i have connections to sell. but my fear is going to have to deal with shady characters...............should i hire a bunch of my special forces merc friends or should i do it legit.
US Navy clearances do not work over here, or would a "Bunch of Special Forces merc Friends" either...?!
so lets talk sense, facts first, your cement "hole" looks just a little to "new"..no discoloration on any of the cement walls or floor, not even in the dust on the floor. so...my own opinion its not 60 yrs old, but a lot younger.
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hahahaha so obvious septic tank...
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again let me make it clear the walls are not made of cement nor can u even see the actual cement on the floor of the hole because there is standing water. The WALLS ARE PACKED CLAY!!! just so we are clear!!!!
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After breaking through two feet of concrete, we found another two feet of earth and now more concrete that seems to be alot thicker than the previous two feet. What is the best way to dig through several feet of concrete?, without electricity mind u or Pneumatics!!!. The two feet alone took over ten days to dig out.
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Patience, determination and hard work.
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After breaking through two feet of concrete, we found another two feet of earth and now more concrete that seems to be alot thicker than the previous two feet. What is the best way to dig through several feet of concrete?, without electricity mind u or Pneumatics!!!. The two feet alone took over ten days to dig out.
Just continue breaking it. Use sledge hammer, big chisels. If that area has no water with good ventilation, you can use a concrete breaker chemical.
Regards,
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we are using just a pick axe and a small sledge. tomorrow we have more help coming and we are purchasing more sledges and picks.....i have no clue where to find the concrete breaker solution but i have thought of everything from dynamite to liquid nitrogen.
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Try this:
1) Dexpan is a Non-Explosive Controlled Demolition Agent and is used for Demolition, Excavation, Quarrying, Rock Breaking and Concrete Cutting. www.DexpanInternational.com (http://www.DexpanInternational.com)
2)Bustar - Expanding Grout for Controlled Demolition Is the Best Nonexplosive Expansive Concrete and Rock Demolition Agent.
Just try to google the local distributor of this...Good Luck.. ;) ;) ;)
Regards,
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thanks i already read up on the dexpan....if i have funds i will purchase it. I appreciate the help!!
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if you wait for funds it takes time.months,perhaps years.burn it!!!
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we are making half a foot to a foot progress everyday. Hopefully in two weeks we will be done with this stint of cement!!!
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well,good luck at least you're in progress..
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will have a pic soon of the marker we found in the cement!! Work continues as usual digging through concrete averaging 2 feet a week with the rainy season upon us. :'(
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we will wait for that picture/photos.. and we hope that you will successful in your site... and you will post what you've got in your site... good luck and God bless...
BTW: just tell you team to be careful it's already rainy season:
Raqz ;)
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i really wish we took pictures of the bones we found between the layers of cement. I found out about the remains a week after they dug it up and reburied said person again. Is it wise to disturb said bones a second time for some pics.
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no need to excavate those bones for the second time just to take picture of it.let it be rest in peace...
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dahvos,
My grandPa is from Leyte, do you know if what particular area where Mt. Palingping located? He (my GrandPa) also told me that there was an old gold mine there, do you know what's the name of the company operated such mine?
Thank you...
Best regards,
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sorry i am not familiar with leyte and can find no reference for that mountain. Do you know if its in northern or southern leyte.
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Dahvos, People here are confused as your original posting site location is Leyte while in fact it is in Mindoro and you should have made the correction as people here is still tying your site to Leyte.
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Yes i should of posted sooner about that!!! When signing the deed for the land there was a mix up of two land deeds from the owner, One in Leyte and one in Mindoro. They were both written in spanish so my fiancee thought our land was in Leyte when in fact it was Mindoro island. Long story short that involved a much longer trip to Mindoro than necessary. But all the paperwork has been taken care of so I posted here prematurely, I was really confused by what she was telling me and what was actual. Regardless after getting all the facts straight with the conflicting information i figured on my own it was in mindoro especially when she mentioned mangyan.
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To shallow for a reason. Why is it that it is only now that you told us the truth when you are now caught red handed? We are honest for you but you are not on us. WHO ARE YOU?
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i was never caught red handed with anything, In fact i told one of this forums senior members six weeks ago of the mix up via message and if u look on page two of these posts i did say it was not in leyte. So believe me or not i do not care, I am a very busy man and i am posting on these forums so that if i do find something you all will see a success story. Regardless of the location anything i post about this puts loved ones in danger so after i found out about the mixed up telling u all the island of origin is secondary on my mind.
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my mistake i posted that on page one instead of page two
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To shallow for a reason. Why is it that it is only now that you told us the truth when you are now caught red handed? We are honest for you but you are not on us. WHO ARE YOU?
Ghost, It was an honest mistake and he already apologized and explained and it is understandable as he is a foreigner, an American, a Serviceman (Military) so, let us give him some slack.
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its alright dahvos we got your point.
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Well i got some great news to share with u all!!!! We just pulled up the first bar of gold from our dig site yesterday!! at 12 inches long and 2 inches wide and 1.5 inches thick!!! we dont have a scale right now but the estimate weight is over or around 20 kilo's and there is no writing or markings on the gold. Soon i will have it assayed to find out what karat it is or even its authenticy!! I dont have the pics yet and i am going to sea for a week starting in 36 hours so U will see the pics the day i come back the same day i do!!! There is still a hell of alot of concrete to go through so i think this bar was a decoy and i will keep u all updated as we go......further more i will post some more pics that i received a week ago of my dig site at the 3 weeks ago stage" Trouble is brewing though our detector has turned out to be spying on us and calling us every day. Several times my woman and her uncles and papa at night have seen lights at our dig site ( They have already shot and wounded a trespasser). Now they are having to stand armed night watches and things are getting a whole lot stressful for us. keep my woman and her family in your prayers!!!!
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pics from 3 weeks ago
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let's just wait and see soon that photos dahvos good for you, and be careful because LIFE is more than a treasure you recover... good luck
Raqz ;)
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more pics and i think some that were a symbol
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Wow! That's excellent, Dahvos! Good for you. We will wait for those nice gold bar pictures!
TW
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
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yes the circle was under about six feet of concrete in the center . The japs put plenty of layers of concrete with dirt layers before where we found the symbol but these pics are give or take a month old. And back then i gave the go ahead to continue digging through the concrete just told them to take pics and do a paper and charcoal rub of the symbol just in case. But all that does not matter we just excavated a bar that was encased in concrete. that took 4 days to dig out!!! I am very very certain it is just the tip of the iceberg!!! I am sorry about the pics that u dont get a good sence of scale, unfortunately it is my woman that is taking the pics and does not understand that i wanted scale put in them. also alot of the pics did not come out because the cam got real wet and ruined in our river when she tried crossing it and almost drowned because of the rains. So i had to buy a new cam that was not so good and that is why these pics are so late comming. Hopefully i will have good pics tomorrow of the gold bar if the weather is good if not u will have to wait a week when i get back from being underway on my naval ship.
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
Yeah and those wolves will get 2 barrels of .45 1911 springfields pointed at them by 2 ex filipino army rangers (my father in law and his brother)
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yes you must be clever and watchful enough as those wolves are coming around within the vicinity.
wow! good for you now to have a 12 inches gold bar you have recovered.!at least you never failed in your quest..
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
Yeah and those wolves will get 2 barrels of .45 1911 springfields pointed at them by 2 ex filipino army rangers (my father in law and his brother)
My friend, cal .45 is not sufficient to do the perimeter defense at all times. In our country, owning a real big toy is just like buying an expensive candy. Better be prepared for no one can tell the future. Anyway, congrats bro for finding your dream. Just hurry to be on site for you to asses the true situation, for I know you can. You are trained on that. ;)
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well here is the first pic of the gold bar i just got offline with my woman!!!! Unfortunately for me and you because of her shoddy internet connection which dropped at least twice a minute only one picture finished loading the rest i could kinda see but were very pixelated do to internet interuptions, so only one good picture for u today but on sunday i will recieve all of them via email and hopefully i can post them here if not u will have to wait one whole week!!! Now i am exhausted and have to wake up in four hours and start my work for my ships underway!!!!!
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looks like not a typical yamashita goldbar.hope to see you posting more clearer pics of this kind some other time..
thanks for posting it..
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Dahvos,
Thanks for posting but its not clear and we can't really tell what that thing is. Hopefully, when you post more photos later they will be clear and much better.
Thanks,
TW
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
Yeah and those wolves will get 2 barrels of .45 1911 springfields pointed at them by 2 ex filipino army rangers (my father in law and his brother)
Now I am confused here, I always thought that "1911 '45cal" were made by COLT and NOT "Springfields" as you stated...?
I am surprised no one else picked up on that one to.....?
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well here is the first pic of the gold bar i just got offline with my woman!!!! Unfortunately for me and you because of her shoddy internet connection which dropped at least twice a minute only one picture finished loading the rest i could kinda see but were very pixelated do to internet interuptions, so only one good picture for u today but on sunday i will recieve all of them via email and hopefully i can post them here if not u will have to wait one whole week!!! Now i am exhausted and have to wake up in four hours and start my work for my ships underway!!!!!
again confused here, if the internet stops, so does the download, so NO pics! Not pixelated ones or anything...just Nothing!
and why wasnt the pics emailed to you complete there and then..knowing the internet connection is supposedly not good..?
as for the "gold bar", why is the background in focus and the bar is not.?
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Well i got some great news to share with u all!!!! We just pulled up the first bar of gold from our dig site yesterday!! at 12 inches long and 2 inches wide and 1.5 inches thick!!! we dont have a scale right now but the estimate weight is over or around 20 kilo's and there is no writing or markings on the gold. Soon i will have it assayed to find out what karat it is or even its authenticy!! I dont have the pics yet and i am going to sea for a week starting in 36 hours so U will see the pics the day i come back the same day i do!!! There is still a hell of alot of concrete to go through so i think this bar was a decoy and i will keep u all updated as we go......further more i will post some more pics that i received a week ago of my dig site at the 3 weeks ago stage" Trouble is brewing though our detector has turned out to be spying on us and calling us every day. Several times my woman and her uncles and papa at night have seen lights at our dig site ( They have already shot and wounded a trespasser). Now they are having to stand armed night watches and things are getting a whole lot stressful for us. keep my woman and her family in your prayers!!!!
Congratulations Dahvos for a job well done... I hope you can go down more deeper for the Volume of bars down there waiting for the new owner.. Hahaha.. Please don't forget to share with us the gold bar pics as it could be an excellent BOOSTER to all newbies including me to strive hard more also to possibly get our own share of the loot....We will include also your family in our prayers...and hoping that all people around the area well be all safe and sound...
Best regards,
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.45 Springfield ACP is Different from .45 Colt in manufacturer even both marked 1911 and same ammo..
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wasnt aware they called it a 1911 also...ah well "education is free"....
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again confused here, if the internet stops, so does the download, so NO pics! Not pixelated ones or anything...just Nothing!
and why wasnt the pics emailed to you complete there and then..knowing the internet connection is supposedly not good..?
as for the "gold bar", why is the background in focus and the bar is not.?
Well if anyone is familiar with Yahoo messenger then there is a picture share option.......I could see the pictures real small on friends view but the pictures except one never loaded on my screen. So to answer your question the pictures were never actualy emailed to me but uploaded via yahoo messenger. Your last question i cannot answer but i do know that my woman does not have a good camera nor is she a very good picture taker. We shall all see the rest of the pictures soon but since i am onboard my ship and cannot access regular email untill i am back home we will all have to wait unless she messages the pictures via facebook to me!!!
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here u go the promised pictures!!! The lines in the bar are scratch marks from the blade they used to clean the bar of cement. The side views show the 200 gram weight gouge that we are going to assay in a few days. The total weight of the bar is a little over 16 kilos. in a few days i should have some proper pictures with a ruler in it. Again sorry about the quality of the pics but this is just the first taste and we are still digging through cement.
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here u go
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and a few more
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That's a strange looking gold bar. I've never seen one that looks like that before. Lets wait for your official assay now.
TW
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Even me,,im really confused with the form of it,,,It looks like a clay bar covered with gold thin flakes foil?? I cant give conclusion,,I maybe so wrong in assumption!!
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That's a strange looking gold bar. I've never seen one that looks like that before. Lets wait for your official assay now.
TW
I agree with you I have never heard of that standard of weight and with no hallmarks!!! I can come to a conclusion though.....judging by the way it was resting in the concrete it looked like it was just thrown in there because it was sitting at an angle!! It is definitely gold though so i think it was jewelry or another object smelted in a hurry judging by the few different shades of gold coloring. I am pretty sure its not pure gold but a mixure of different karats ... and if it is my hypothesis will be correct!!! Work is going slowly but surely through the concrete even now but only two digging now and two standing night watches.. I dont think the japs would of buried this bar in a five by five 20+ feet deep hole on top of a hill that is a small mountain....I cant imagine all the water and concrete mix they would of had to hump up this steep of a hill.......probably POWs did the dirty work
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sorry made typo at the end of my last paragraph I dont think the japs would of buried just this bar in a five by five 20+ feet deep hole on top of a hill that is a small mountain with only 8 feet of it so far just earth and the rest concrete. I know from way back in the start of this we have several for sure confirmations that there is alot of gold buried on our land. Plus i have a couple of promising sites close on tribal lands with permission to excavate and explore!!
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Better have it assay to be sure. Just my opinion ;)
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Better have it assay to be sure. Just my opinion ;)
to make sure that your AU was authentic....
TC...
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The gold is authentic the question remains what karat it is. In a few days My ol'lady will be in manila getting it assayed properly. I am thinking about using Philtech because I can sell the gold there as well and its owned by a fellow American. Even after i get the results there i will get it assayed at another place just to be certain.
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
Wow, it's very nice to know that one of TSEATC THMember here is part of Philtech also. Am sure you can share some information to us (other members) on how to start dealing with your company for say: Assay and other parameters to maintain the secrecy of our other members to bring their valuables (GOLDs) for verification and authentication in your company.
Thank you for being with us Wiseman.... ;) ;)
Best regards,
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excellent!! Hopefully she can be there by this weekend or early next week it all depends on the weather!! Yesterday i sent her via sms the address in Makati.
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
That's great.... :D we have a member that is also working in that company.. lets just wait the partial details soon .. Good luck.. :D
Raqz
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
That will be nice... It will be easy to transact with the philtec ;) Thanks wiseman ;)
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
That's great.... :D we have a member that is also working in that company.. lets just wait the partial details soon .. Good luck.. :D
Raqz
He's probably not actually employed by Philtec. I also know Tom Taylor pretty good and have been to his office many times. He's a nice guy and as far as I know is pretty honest in doing business.
TW
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we will be waiting.. im from philtech with tom taylor.. ;)
That's great.... :D we have a member that is also working in that company.. lets just wait the partial details soon .. Good luck.. :D
Raqz
He's probably not actually employed by Philtec. I also know Tom Taylor pretty good and have been to his office many times. He's a nice guy and as far as I know is pretty honest in doing business.
TW
Good to hear that Sir TW... Then we can probably trust this company....
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honesty is all i am looking for at this point in time ...regardless as a general rule i trust no one.
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honesty is all i am looking for at this point in time ...regardless as a general rule i trust no one.
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Is that right, so ,what you are saying that you do not Trust "Your Woman" as you constantly refer to her. ::)
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honesty is all i am looking for at this point in time ...regardless as a general rule i trust no one.
you don't trust no one.. :D but what if the one who hold that gold bar also don't trust no one.. then what happen in the next episode.. ??? ???
Raqz ;)
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Ohh i trust a few a very few......Only those who have been through the bad the very bad times as well as the good with me without wavering. 3 people on this planet are among that number..... 1My ol lady, 2 my biological brother and 3 my oldest buddy since i was 5 years old. There is a saying you should only trust a person as far as u can throw them. Luckily for me my moon and stars is a tiny tiny Visayan pinay......i can toss her pretty far if i wanted to lol ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ohh i trust a few a very few......Only those who have been through the bad the very bad times as well as the good with me without wavering. 3 people on this planet are among that number..... 1My ol lady, 2 my biological brother and 3 my oldest buddy since i was 5 years old. There is a saying you should only trust a person as far as u can throw them. Luckily for me my moon and stars is a tiny tiny Visayan pinay......i can toss her pretty far if i wanted to lol ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as I know, Mindoro is a part of Luzon and therefore your Ol Lady is not considered a Visayan.
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ahh but she hails from cdo my friend where it is Visayan and where the bulk of our land and the true home of my heart lies in northern mindanao
this land in mindoro was bought off a very elderly family friend and the price was hard to pass up. its got a cold springs and a river on it good for cattle and upland crops.
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no i dont work at philitech.. auntie tess and tom are my personal friends
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well folks sorry it has been a while.......I have some bad bad news the short story is we never did get to assay that gold bar! in fact trying to get even a small piece off of mindoro was a headache, and since we couldn't get it off via the ferry we had to have one of my fiancé uncles bring us a boat. I was a bit miffed at the fact he brought 3 guys with him without telling us claiming they were or used to be army and that they were his bodyguards. At that point in time i was going to be at sea for two weeks or so so i just thought this was going to be a simple drop off at manila procedure. I went against my better judgement and had her bring the whole bar of gold as well as the two pieces they had cut off , because after two months of trying to get it off mindoro after paying alot of my hard earned money had made me a bit impatient. So my fiance and one of her uncles who has helped digging the gold since the begining, the uncle with the boat from Davao and the 3 extra guys embarked.
Now a day long boat ride soon turned into five days because of engine problems half way through the crossing as well as thats when Typhoon Nanmadol decided to hit. Long story short they made it to manila intact but i had run out of funds to pay for gasoline so that her uncle and the men could return.
Great i thought now she will take it to Philtech to get it assayed "nope" thats when her uncle and three friends decided that we should take it to Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas "i dont recall why they thought they had any say" Now i wouldnt mind it going to Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas but u need certificates with the gold as well as alot of other criteria and you cant sell it without a middleman if you are not a mining company ect. Plus i am sure they would ask alot of questions and we would be followed from then on. So they basicly wouldnt let us take it to Philtech on the excuse that Philtech would kill us..............Ludicrous!!!! The bastards were just stalling so they could plan to steal it and i knew it for sure then.
I was helpless!!! they were not letting my fiance or the uncle that came with her leave basicly holding them hostage.
I told her to call her papa and have him come to manila ....once this bad uncle found out that he was comming that night he druged her and his brother and tied them up and beat them until they told him and his friends where they had hid the gold in their room then they stole it and took off to the boat.
A day later my "6 month PREGNANT fiance and her uncle freed themselves" and filed a report with the police that her uncle had tied them up and beat them and stolen a large sum of money.
but alas by the time my fiance got out of the hospital and borrowed money to fly to davao since that is where this bandit of an uncle lives his house was empty and nobody knew where they had gone
Then i asked them to check the army records for these three men ....again no record, then they checked the police records........sure enough one of them was a cop we got his adress and went there it was four hours from Davao......again empty they left most everything even their dog. Now its a cold trail we have no choice but to speed up our efforts with our dig site to take more gold so we will have money to put bounties on their heads. There are no words to describe my anguish at the sight of my fiances bruises and the possibility of losing our unborn daughter not to mention the hard labor of six months disappearing. And while this happened i was trapped stuck at sea and could not do anything.
Thank god they don't know where are land is there nor do they even know we dug it up, we told them we were getting it assayed and sold for some mangyans.
All this because i was tanga and didnt just send her with 600 grams worth to manila to get assayed and sold so it could fund the rest of our project!!!
I dont even want the gold back i just want their f@#*ing heads for what they did to my real treasure.
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Sad to hear that.. and if you are holding the Real gold bar ... as you said... do not trust anyone... that are mostly happen to our THrs...
Raqz ;)
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Don't feel bad, it was only one bar and you are still alive. Even old the old timers like us have been ripped before. We lost 1 metric ton to the military, just north of Davao. Takes years to learn all the ins and outs.
Always DIVIDE, DIVIDE, DIVIDE what you have. Never carry all your eggs in one basket.
Z
well folks sorry it has been a while.......I have some bad bad news the short story is we never did get to assay that gold bar! in fact trying to get even a small piece off of mindoro was a headache, and since we couldn't get it off via the ferry we had to have one of my fiancé uncles bring us a boat. I was a bit miffed at the fact he brought 3 guys with him without telling us claiming they were or used to be army and that they were his bodyguards. At that point in time i was going to be at sea for two weeks or so so i just thought this was going to be a simple drop off at manila procedure. I went against my better judgement and had her bring the whole bar of gold as well as the two pieces they had cut off , because after two months of trying to get it off mindoro after paying alot of my hard earned money had made me a bit impatient. So my fiance and one of her uncles who has helped digging the gold since the begining, the uncle with the boat from Davao and the 3 extra guys embarked.
Now a day long boat ride soon turned into five days because of engine problems half way through the crossing as well as thats when Typhoon Nanmadol decided to hit. Long story short they made it to manila intact but i had run out of funds to pay for gasoline so that her uncle and the men could return.
Great i thought now she will take it to Philtech to get it assayed "nope" thats when her uncle and three friends decided that we should take it to Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas "i dont recall why they thought they had any say" Now i wouldnt mind it going to Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas but u need certificates with the gold as well as alot of other criteria and you cant sell it without a middleman if you are not a mining company ect. Plus i am sure they would ask alot of questions and we would be followed from then on. So they basicly wouldnt let us take it to Philtech on the excuse that Philtech would kill us..............Ludicrous!!!! The bastards were just stalling so they could plan to steal it and i knew it for sure then.
I was helpless!!! they were not letting my fiance or the uncle that came with her leave basicly holding them hostage.
I told her to call her papa and have him come to manila ....once this bad uncle found out that he was comming that night he druged her and his brother and tied them up and beat them until they told him and his friends where they had hid the gold in their room then they stole it and took off to the boat.
A day later my "6 month PREGNANT fiance and her uncle freed themselves" and filed a report with the police that her uncle had tied them up and beat them and stolen a large sum of money.
but alas by the time my fiance got out of the hospital and borrowed money to fly to davao since that is where this bandit of an uncle lives his house was empty and nobody knew where they had gone
Then i asked them to check the army records for these three men ....again no record, then they checked the police records........sure enough one of them was a cop we got his adress and went there it was four hours from Davao......again empty they left most everything even their dog. Now its a cold trail we have no choice but to speed up our efforts with our dig site to take more gold so we will have money to put bounties on their heads. There are no words to describe my anguish at the sight of my fiances bruises and the possibility of losing our unborn daughter not to mention the hard labor of six months disappearing. And while this happened i was trapped stuck at sea and could not do anything.
Thank god they don't know where are land is there nor do they even know we dug it up, we told them we were getting it assayed and sold for some mangyans.
All this because i was tanga and didnt just send her with 600 grams worth to manila to get assayed and sold so it could fund the rest of our project!!!
I dont even want the gold back i just want their f@#*ing heads for what they did to my real treasure.
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a very bad news indeed!
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Dahvos,
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. I can't imagine that even your own UNCLE did that to you and your fiance. And they even beat up a pregnant woman! I'm sure that one day their KARMA is going to catch up with them. Let them go to HELL for what they did.
However, like what Zobex told you is to look on the bright side of this story. You only lost ONE bar and at least no one got seriously hurt or even KILLED. Right? Now you have learned a valuable lesson and we are all sure you will know exactly what to do next time. Thanks for sharing that story with all of us here on TSEATC. Thanks to you, now even we can learn from your bad experience here.
TW
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yeah i definitely learned a valuable lesson and it was one of my fiance's uncles (one that i have personally never met). Her Father and the two other uncles that are actually involved with the digging including the one with her all want to bury their sibling that did this to us. May have started an inter-clan war. I am 100 percent certain that karma will catch up and that he will choke on his misdeeds. It may be six months or ten years but we will find him and his 3 accomplices and it will not be pretty when that happens....there will always be a paper trail to follow unless they plan on living in the mountains away from civilization or if they change their names.......i hope they never have a peaceful nights sleep until then.
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That's really a bad dream. A reminder ....If you happen to secure genuine GB's, don't travel it by bulk or with a company. Anything could happen within 24 hours if GB will not be sold out in the vicinity.
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For me,if ever given a chance to hold and own real GB?bank transaction is good,but be sure to know well the bank manager.
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hey folks sorry haven't really spoken for a while!! I have had alot of things happening recently. number one my baby was born really early so I am now officially a father and have been focusing on that. The digging continues of course we are at about 55 feet deep now because i sold several head of cattle so i could buy a generator and a jack hammer. Seems like this concrete never ends!!!!! The other good piece of news is that we located and now know where the uncle who stole our GB is. Found him because he decided to buy a motor bike and registered it "its nice to have alot of friends in NBI". Soon when i go there next month to see my child and to personally check on the site we shall deal with these bandits.
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
Yeah and those wolves will get 2 barrels of .45 1911 springfields pointed at them by 2 ex filipino army rangers (my father in law and his brother)
Now I am confused here, I always thought that "1911 '45cal" were made by COLT and NOT "Springfields" as you stated...?
I am surprised no one else picked up on that one to.....?
Springfield Armory is (was) in Massachusetts, but Springfield Armory USA is located in Geneseo, Illinois. The Springfield Armory closed in the 1960's and Springfield Armory USA "resurrected" the Springfield Armory name in 1974. The only connection between the Springfield Armory and Springfield Armory USA is the name.
All are based on variations of the military specifications of 1911 and 1911A1.
Rock Island Armory is made in the Philippines, again based on the 1911 and 1911a1 design.
RIA's have soft frames and slides. More of a defense weapon rather than actual combat. If using a RIA we have to re-heat treat the parts raising the cost. In the Philippines Springfield .45's are prefered even over the Chinese copies of the same. The newest Colt .45 in my bunch was made in 1983, after that they are more of a cult item than a real weapon, to over priced.
Perhaps you have not been around firearms very much to know this.
Zobex
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Is that small circle in the middle or corner of the concrete cover? It MIGHT be the starting point in breaking through that concrete cover. It is just only my opinion. And be careful out there because the smell of the cooked bacon is now in the air, wolves are out there waiting for the right time to snatch it from you. ;)
Yeah and those wolves will get 2 barrels of .45 1911 springfields pointed at them by 2 ex filipino army rangers (my father in law and his brother)
Now I am confused here, I always thought that "1911 '45cal" were made by COLT and NOT "Springfields" as you stated...?
I am surprised no one else picked up on that one to.....?
Springfield Armory is (was) in Massachusetts, but Springfield Armory USA is located in Geneseo, Illinois. The Springfield Armory closed in the 1960's and Springfield Armory USA "resurrected" the Springfield Armory name in 1974. The only connection between the Springfield Armory and Springfield Armory USA is the name.
All are based on variations of the military specifications of 1911 and 1911A1.
Rock Island Armory is made in the Philippines, again based on the 1911 and 1911a1 design.
RIA's have soft frames and slides. More of a defense weapon rather than actual combat. If using a RIA we have to re-heat treat the parts raising the cost. In the Philippines Springfield .45's are prefered even over the Chinese copies of the same. The newest Colt .45 in my bunch was made in 1983, after that they are more of a cult item than a real weapon, to over priced.
Perhaps you have not been around firearms very much to know this.
Zobex
My goodness, did you deliberately search for this old post just to throw at me...? (July 09 2011) that had already been thrashed out so your a bit late, unless of course you are cruising.... :D
as for the statement in bold..well thats something you will never know isnt it...?
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hey folks sorry haven't really spoken for a while!! I have had alot of things happening recently. number one my baby was born really early so I am now officially a father and have been focusing on that. The digging continues of course we are at about 55 feet deep now because i sold several head of cattle so i could buy a generator and a jack hammer. Seems like this concrete never ends!!!!! The other good piece of news is that we located and now know where the uncle who stole our GB is. Found him because he decided to buy a motor bike and registered it "its nice to have alot of friends in NBI". Soon when i go there next month to see my child and to personally check on the site we shall deal with these bandits.
Congratulations, Daddy! Hope your baby is healthy and doing well.
Well, please let us know when you manage to catch up to that lousy cheating uncle of yours. I hope he gets just what he deserves!
Good luck with your site. Please keep us posted.
TW
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hello folks i have some good news for you all last Thursday we pulled out another bar of gold this time weighing at 12 kilos and over the weekend have successfully driven it to Manila (including taking a ferry across the verde island passage) First things first on monday my significant other took it to Philtech to try and get a piece assayed. Unfortunately Mr Taylor is on vacation to HK and the person that operates the machinery is in Baguio. so we waited until today for the operator to come back and they assay the 400 gram piece..........i received an sms an hour ago from her that they say the gold is 75% and is 14k and only $1100 peso per gram.................pppppfffffffffffftttttttt. Are you serious? because last time i checked 75% gold is 18k. Sounds to me that while the cat is away the mice are at play trying to rip people off. Now i will be forced to use McPhar to test this gold to find out its true percent and karat because i cant trust Philtech now because its employees have tried to cheat us. Mr Taylor will be back next week unfortunately for its employees because after testing it at McPhar we will go back when the Boss is in.
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very strange to hear that, for the employees to do that to you knowing full well that will get back to the boss..
However first thing we say is..pics PICS just to boost the morale of the younger generation here, and a few oldies to :D
Just keep all the evidence that you have and present it to Mr Taylor and see what his response is. ?
so until further developments and results, goodluck.. ;)
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the pics will come after we can sell a few gram worth. Camera broke six weeks ago and since i fund this project on my personal wages and after having the baby i cant afford a decent one until we sell a little. But rest assured before we sell this bar i will make sure to give u pictures as well as documentation..... Just so every one knows i am not a treasure hunter i am just a sailor who got lucky.....I get frustrated because i am a very meticulous person and like details myself. I like to know dimentions and depth ,weight and values, materials, weather ect ect. and have documentation and recordings on paper and video if i could but since i am personally not there that stuff does not happen. All five men working on the dig bust their asses at the crack of dawn till sundown, between the five of them they can eat over a kilo of rice in one day (breaking cement aint easy) and my lady just gave birth but she cooks and watches the child now so does not have the luxury to keep me updated or remember the details we would. Now she is in manila with a bar of undetermined value of gold. So i may not be there breaking rock and getting all the details personally but i finance this venture which sometimes ends up being over half my monthly wages easy and i am not an officer or anything just an E-4 in the good ol military.
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hello folks i have some good news for you all last Thursday we pulled out another bar of gold this time weighing at 12 kilos and over the weekend have successfully driven it to Manila (including taking a ferry across the verde island passage) First things first on monday my significant other took it to Philtech to try and get a piece assayed. Unfortunately Mr Taylor is on vacation to HK and the person that operates the machinery is in Baguio. so we waited until today for the operator to come back and they assay the 400 gram piece..........i received an sms an hour ago from her that they say the gold is 75% and is 14k and only $1100 peso per gram.................pppppfffffffffffftttttttt. Are you serious? because last time i checked 75% gold is 18k. Sounds to me that while the cat is away the mice are at play trying to rip people off. Now i will be forced to use McPhar to test this gold to find out its true percent and karat because i cant trust Philtech now because its employees have tried to cheat us. Mr Taylor will be back next week unfortunately for its employees because after testing it at McPhar we will go back when the Boss is in.
You got me confused, you wrote $1100 PESO per Gram, so what is the price really, is it in Dollars or pesos?
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peso
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Honestly speaking, an 18 karats gold is worth P1,600 per gram here in northeastern luzon, particularly in Cordon, Isabela due to the gold nuggets that were paneled from the Didipio, Quirino - Kasibu, Nueva Vizcaya area where the Oceana Gold Corporation is also operating.
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and 24k gold is worth around 55usd per gram which is 2,385 peso
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Congratulations Dahvos, well done...Hope you can share the pictures soon as it is an excellent moral booster to us and others who are still in the midst of their struggle to have their own share of the loot.
More power.... ;)
Best regards,
Elyong
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a good Christmas to you and your family :)
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I'm pretty anxious to get to the real cache of loot just so it can just be over with!!! Been working on this site since late Febuary, but who knows it could be another 100ft deep! ???
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Hi there Dahvos! I hope I get to see the gb pictures soon! Am sure it will inspire me to work harder. What's that they say? Like metals attract... or anyway something like that.
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hey folks sorry haven't really spoken for a while!! I have had alot of things happening recently. number one my baby was born really early so I am now officially a father and have been focusing on that. The digging continues of course we are at about 55 feet deep now because i sold several head of cattle so i could buy a generator and a jack hammer. Seems like this concrete never ends!!!!! The other good piece of news is that we located and now know where the uncle who stole our GB is. Found him because he decided to buy a motor bike and registered it "its nice to have alot of friends in NBI". Soon when i go there next month to see my child and to personally check on the site we shall deal with these bandits.
kudos on your new treasure (baby) sir, it seems you've been digging a lot ;D
don't forget my 1% when you found the other treasure ;)
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Congrats to you Dahvos.. Job well done ;)
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dalvos
what is the name of the employee who tried to cheat you? tom and his wife are my great friends have done a lot of business with him
can you clarify matters please?
thanks !
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very strange to hear that, for the employees to do that to you knowing full well that will get back to the boss.
I am not so surprised they were expecting her to sell that piece right there and then!!! They already thought she was from the provence since she said she found in leyte And since she doesnt know alot about karats and the percentages. She did the smart thing by saying she was going to wait until Tom gets back and talk to me before she tries selling it that way we can buy a new and good camera so i can get u guys pics!!! Also i will ask her about the Accountant and operators names.
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please do clarify everything to us forumer's here about mentioning an operator? and employees? tom is a very god fearing and honest man and so is the people in philtech .. .there IS NO OPERATOR assaying any gold in tom's office..tom personaly handles everything from start to finish.. and tom has ONLY ONE employee in his office. ....
please enlighten us because the company might suffer if informations are not clear...
thank you very much.
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please do clarify everything to us forumer's here about mentioning an operator? and employees? tom is a very god fearing and honest man and so is the people in philtech .. .there IS NO OPERATOR assaying any gold in tom's office..tom personaly handles everything from start to finish.. and tom has ONLY ONE employee in his office. ....
please enlighten us because the company might suffer if informations are not clear...
thank you very much.
this also what i knew from previous dealings with Mr Taylor, so would be extra careful on your return, but do make Mr Taylor aware of whats going on within his company ..
Regards
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Let me clarify things then There is an employee named Richard there and when my fiancee went there last monday HE said that Tom was on vacation in HK and that she had to wait for the person to assay it who is in Baguio. I do not have a name for this man because he didnt give it to her. So I assumed that this man was working for Tom. So far we have tried testing it at three places Philtech which those two said was 75% but said was 14k, Babes gold and jewelry 50% and McPhar said was 90%........So now i will wait for Tom to get back from vacation and have him test it.
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dalvos
be careful maybe someone intercepted your item.. there is NO RICHARD working for tom. and the compound is secured.. just to be sure take it inside the office just a single female employee awaits you.
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I see that there are two addresses for Philtech ,
Philtec Metals, Inc.
Address: , 2216 Pasong Tamo , , Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines ,
Telephone No: (632) 813-2062, 813-2065
and this is the one she went to from the website.
Philtec Metals, Inc.
Address: , 5372 South Superhighway, Palanan, Makati City, Metro Manila, ,
Telephone No: (632) 556-4143 to 44
So which one is the office that you are speaking of goldbar 888
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The Pasong Tamo, Makati City, is the CORRECT address. I know because I have been there to his place several times before.
TW
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thank you i appreciate that.
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the second one
i am always approx.there once a week
you will find tom there.
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both places said that Tom will be back on the 27th of December and that they cant buy gold until then. They can assay but that is all !!
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goodluck then.. godbless
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Over two weeks ago we tried selling 100 grams to different pawnshops and only recieved 700peso per gram while we were waiting for tom to get back. While she was changing the money at a moneychanger and the man was nice enough to call a cab for because she had our baby with her. this cab driver pulled a gun on her and robbed her 70,000 peso, afterword she went to the police station with the plate number ..........so obvious a syndicate. strike one!!!!! Last week we found a pawnshop Adorrada Rashid in Ermita that offered 1100 peso per gram and they tested this next 150 grams at 80percent 18k we tried to sell all went perfect.......so we have another 150,000 peso. The next day on the 28th of dec I got on a plane and flew to Philippines. Having gotten here finally after 16 hour flight, A friend who is helped us with getting the birth certificate stole 98,000peso from her purse while he was getting the car to pick us up at a resturant we had stopped at........ we only found out the money is missing after he dropped us off at home. Now i want to see the rest of the gold and that is gone too from the house. The previous day before i got on the plane her Last uncle stole the gold and has disappeared. Now what happend was before i got on the plane her papa, cousin and this uncle showed up wanting a few days off from working the dig site to go home for newyears. fine so my fiancee bought them all tickets and gave them each 10,000 peso for the holiday. Now she sends her father and cousin to go get diapers and formula for our little girl and that is when i called her to tell her i was boarding the plane she stepped out the door to take the call and that is when the uncle put the gold bar in his luggage. Now fast forward to after i found out the money was gone and i check the gold is gone. My fiancee never checked for the gold bar before they left for the airport to go home to mindanao nor after. I go completely ape i feel like i am going to have a heart attack. I tell her to call her papa to see if her uncle got on the plane. because that gold bar would never make it through security. He said on the phone that her uncle change his mind and wants to go back digging in mindoro and the cousin decides to with him. So i tell her papa to watch this uncles family. As of to date they are still there in mindanao and they are asking where Uncle is because they think he comming with my father in law. Her papa is back in mindoro with now a brother in law of my fiancee a man who should of been there since the beginning of the digging. work is continuing just we have to take more gold and keep on keep on. we have found similar marking like the past two times and we know we have less than 20 feet before we find another gold bar. the good news there is no more uncles or cousins left at the dig site because they have two times robbed us. Sorry it is late i have a headache if u wish me to expound on this i will do so tomorrow
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Dahvos,
Wow.. what a horror story! It's so amazing how just about everyone is out to cheat and steal from you once you find some treasure. Thanks for sharing and let this be a lesson to us all. It looks like you can't trust anyone these - not even your own relatives! That really sucks!
Good luck to you, Dahvos. We're wishing you the best and watch out for all those CROOKS surrounding you there!
TW
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:) :) bro. dahvos.. good luck.. just take care your family...
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Yes at least i get to spend my time with my firstborn a beautiful daughter who is the real treasure........not to mention my fiance who i have not seen since last April. So the year is not a complete waste. We will take more gold soon and i am going to send money for a camera before i go on deployment in Feb. I will try to set up an account here for her to post pics if i cannot since i will be at sea for many months and there is no guarentee of me having internet always.
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remember you can get your gold tested and sold at Adorrada Rashid's in ermita and a branch in green hills, they were fair to us and paid the full price after testing for 2300 peso. I think the owner is from Kuwait..... Also philtech they tested a one kilo Piece for 80percent the second time we went but Tom was still not there so we could not sell............what are your opinions should i go to Tom before i leave to go back to america and have a chat with him because i am worried that we will have trouble again trying to transport our next bar to manila........last time we paid the guards to the ferry 12000 peso not to check my fiances bag where we had the gold in the car because they were going to. If you know Tom personally is he a man that if i revealed to him the location of my gold would he harm or murder my family for the gold because eventually when i find the main cache i will have some explaining to do if i want to sell abunch of it to him so eventually he will know. plus i will have no way of transporting a large volume of gold. I am tired of not having proof to you folks for my treasure findings. Hell i would let admin Tony come take a peek and take pictures and notes if he wanted to at our site but that is for him to decide and he would recieve a percentage we will agree upon. There is only her papa and her brother in law now digging and my fiancee will be there with my child on monday or tuesday because i leave again for the u.s on sunday. What are your thoughts people!!!!
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congrats dahvos.
your security should be your utmost concern. good luck and god bless.
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Hijack, one of the oldest and most common of professions in the islands. I have had to listen to the bla bla bla of so many arm chair treasure hunters who say, just sell a few grams and fund your projects. Anyone who has actually tried to sell knows it is near impossible. Any buyer like a pawn shop or jewelry shop will A) size up the seller and figure if he is a local and how poor and defenseless he his. B) give a stall and two step while he is making a deal but giving signals or info to his thugs C) will screw the seller because he is desperate D) make a deal and then set the seller up for a take out or track him to his home base for a raid or hijack. ALSO the composition of treasure gold from bars is considerably different than from mined gold. That is the first thing a buyer looks for. IF it is not mined gold, then they go after you. Bla Bla Bla, don't respond to this by saying it won't happen or Zobex is full of crap or people aren't that bad or such. Go try it your self. Two some years ago one of my men cut the end off a 6.2 to sell for expenses and wound up having to cut the throats of a coupe of guys to get out of town. The whole thing was not worth the time for quick operation money. (( OK psychics, put on your hats and see if that statement is true or not ))
TT is not a real buyer for quantity. He has a couple of sweethearts that come in and buy through him. Tom got his start in the islands way back at the time of the Marcos coup. Back when I was in the fracas at the same time. I remember way back before he started working in the islands, he was a buyer of yellow to set up making coins. But that was back about 1985.
There is a group of white guys setting up a fly out of the islands on a regular basis with a private jet in 2012 Taking it to a German owned refinery in HK and banking out of HSBC. Their take is about 17% but the money gets deposited in HSBC. Won't fly out less than 75kg at a time. Not worth their time. They are retired (yea right) CIA who were based in the islands back from the late 1970's on forward and are going to retire there and base out of Mindanao. Naturally their permits are issued by the honest Nonoy Government, cough, choke.
IF you want to call them, it's 001 202 600 7247 see who answers. You won't find them listed in the Yellow Pages business telephone directory.
It's a dirty world out there when you actually get off your butt, away from the computer and do some work. Sad to say.
Zobex
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All I can say is...you can try selling your gold here in Luzon, in our place in Cordon, Isabela where there are lots of buyers of mined gold from the Didipio and Kasibu mining site [The OCEANA GOLD VENTURE is operating there] and you will get your gold's worth. No hijacking, no questions asked. Try too at Edna's Pawnshop at National Highway, Santiago City and you will have your money in 30 minutes max. No thugs, no gangho. It is guaranteed or my name is not Dindo Bayaua.
I already did that several times over.
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@dahvos, why not try to contact Maskara.
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Cut your gold bar/s into pieces and try selling it separately so that it will not be 'lost' whole when time comes to worst. Don't be to excited or greedy to become millionaire at once for someone is on the look for an easy prey for the smell of cook ham and bacon can not be hidden from somebody's nose. Proper planning is better ahead before even contacting or selling anything of value. Consider all possible scenario so that you have a plan in advance. My 2 cent opinion. ;)
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Hijack, one of the oldest and most common of professions in the islands. I have had to listen to the bla bla bla of so many arm chair treasure hunters who say, just sell a few grams and fund your projects. Anyone who has actually tried to sell knows it is near impossible. Any buyer like a pawn shop or jewelry shop will A) size up the seller and figure if he is a local and how poor and defenseless he his. B) give a stall and two step while he is making a deal but giving signals or info to his thugs C) will screw the seller because he is desperate D) make a deal and then set the seller up for a take out or track him to his home base for a raid or hijack. ALSO the composition of treasure gold from bars is considerably different than from mined gold. That is the first thing a buyer looks for. IF it is not mined gold, then they go after you. Bla Bla Bla, don't respond to this by saying it won't happen or Zobex is full of crap or people aren't that bad or such. Go try it your self. Two some years ago one of my men cut the end off a 6.2 to sell for expenses and wound up having to cut the throats of a coupe of guys to get out of town.
for once somebody who knows what they are f@#$ing talking about......thank you!!!
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Cut your gold bar/s into pieces and try selling it separately so that it will not be 'lost' whole when time comes to worst. Don't be to excited or greedy to become millionaire at once for someone is on the look for an easy prey for the smell of cook ham and bacon can not be hidden from somebody's nose. Proper planning is better ahead before even contacting or selling anything of value. Consider all possible scenario so that you have a plan in advance. My 2 cent opinion. ;)
I will do this next time. The only reason i didnt want to do that is because i want to buy my contract out of the Navy and for that i need the money. Another way for me to get out is to come into a large sum of money then i can be discharged. My freedom is what i want most of all and to be with my family..... Its a double edged sword because i need my job here to fund our project but i need the gold to buy my freedom. So i was ecstatic when the gold bar reached manila intact and we were just waiting for Tom to get back from vacation. I will be on deployment starting mid-next month until September or October so this latest setback has demoralized me to my core. Plus with the knowledge i will have little contact with my new family. I will not know what is going on or if the uncles have come back to clean house and my family is dead or hostage. That is the stresses i am dealing with. So it was a race against time and i lost.....so far.. just gotta dig up more!!! Its almost as if God does not want me to have this... The really funny thing is that we found this gold by complete accident but we were at the right place at the right time and we were buying the land regardless before we even knew there was gold on it. This story book adventure has turned out to be a nightmare its almost not even worth it. The betrayal cuts me more deeply than anything else. My fiancee and her Father picked these men from their family because they were good and very religious and loyal to the family. Monsters are real and they live inside us, and sometimes, they win. I have 3 brothers and 1 sister in my imediate family here in the states and are full blood Oglala Sioux ... originally from pine ridge reservation and they were adopted like me. They have a story parable that i would like to share. “A Native American grandfather talking to his young grandson tells the boy he has two wolves inside of him struggling with each other. The first is the wolf of peace, love and kindness. The other wolf is fear, greed and hatred. "Which wolf will win, grandfather?" asks the young boy. "Whichever one I feed," is the reply.”
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Cut your gold bar/s into pieces and try selling it separately so that it will not be 'lost' whole when time comes to worst. Don't be to excited or greedy to become millionaire at once for someone is on the look for an easy prey for the smell of cook ham and bacon can not be hidden from somebody's nose. Proper planning is better ahead before even contacting or selling anything of value. Consider all possible scenario so that you have a plan in advance. My 2 cent opinion. ;)
I will do this next time. The only reason i didnt want to do that is because i want to buy my contract out of the Navy and for that i need the money. Another way for me to get out is to come into a large sum of money then i can be discharged. My freedom is what i want most of all and to be with my family..... Its a double edged sword because i need my job here to fund our project but i need the gold to buy my freedom. So i was ecstatic when the gold bar reached manila intact and we were just waiting for Tom to get back from vacation. I will be on deployment starting mid-next month until September or October so this latest setback has demoralized me to my core. Plus with the knowledge i will have little contact with my new family. I will not know what is going on or if the uncles have come back to clean house and my family is dead or hostage. That is the stresses i am dealing with. So it was a race against time and i lost.....so far.. just gotta dig up more!!! Its almost as if God does not want me to have this... The really funny thing is that we found this gold by complete accident but we were at the right place at the right time and we were buying the land regardless before we even knew there was gold on it. This story book adventure has turned out to be a nightmare its almost not even worth it. The betrayal cuts me more deeply than anything else. My fiancee and her Father picked these men from their family because they were good and very religious and loyal to the family. Monsters are real and they live inside us, and sometimes, they win. I have 3 brothers and 1 sister in my imediate family here in the states and are full blood Oglala Sioux ... originally from pine ridge reservation and they were adopted like me. They have a story parable that i would like to share. “A Native American grandfather talking to his young grandson tells the boy he has two wolves inside of him struggling with each other. The first is the wolf of peace, love and kindness. The other wolf is fear, greed and hatred. "Which wolf will win, grandfather?" asks the young boy. "Whichever one I feed," is the reply.”
very nice story sir dahvos, very true indeed.
for me, you are taking the situation positively. am glad that despite what happened, you have not resorted to anything bad that will just complicate the situation.
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001 202 600 7247 thats a D.C. number
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I have some news for everybody which i have mixed feelings about!! The uncle and cousin that stole from us last month were found dead yesterday or the day before in Manila. Both died from bullets and the suspects are unknown nor will probably ever be known. Doesnt take a genius to figure out they died from trying to sell that 12 kilo 18k gold bar. Karma has gone full circle and I really do feel bad for their families (Greed will get you killed in the end)!!! :(
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Yap, very tragic indeed. Karma or not, it's the cost of doing the business without proper knowledge. It's not your fault anyway, if only they were not that greedy, maybe in the end everybody should be happy.
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I have some news for everybody which i have mixed feelings about!! The uncle and cousin that stole from us last month were found dead yesterday or the day before in Manila. Both died from bullets and the suspects are unknown nor will probably ever be known. Doesnt take a genius to figure out they died from trying to sell that 12 kilo 18k gold bar. Karma has gone full circle and I really do feel bad for their families (Greed will get you killed in the end)!!! :(
Well, I hate to say it but they deserved that!
TW
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indeed they got what they deserved. If i would of found them eventually i would of not of killed them but i know i would take their right hands or a didgit or two for punishment but i would of given them their cut from that bar because i am a man of my word. Plus they did work for me almost a year without wages so i do owe them in fact regardless.... Without incriminating myself I know with the first two uncles and their two friends who beat my wife i will not be so lenient!!
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i cannot find any news about those two dead people, i am interested to know what's the content of the report 8)
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indeed they got what they deserved. If i would of found them eventually i would of not of killed them but i know i would take their right hands or a didgit or two for punishment but i would of given them their cut from that bar because i am a man of my word. Plus they did work for me almost a year without wages so i do owe them in fact regardless.... Without incriminating myself I know with the first two uncles and their two friends who beat my wife i will not be so lenient!!
These people that worked for you for almost a year with NO Wages, hopefully they do not have a family to feed. So, what was the condition, that they will get paid with a bonus when a recovery is made, what if there is no recovery, just say Sorry and will that be sufficient? It is really none of my business but if it was me, I will never give my workers that kind of condition but if they accepted those conditions, I do pity them. Minimum daily wages should suffice. In this quest, there is more failure than success for recovery. Just expressing my thoughts, no offense meant.
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some very interesting questions there T-44...have quite a few myself...but i can wait..... :)
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I'm surprised T Hunter and Janner are so shocked at Dahvos' statement. They probably just got their food and only some minimum 'pocket money' and were promised a major share if and when anything was ever found.
Since there's numerous digs constantly going on throughout the Philippines - I'm sure that this kind of arrangement is more common here in this country than you might think. I mean, it's amazing how many common people I meet here all over this country who either;
a) are currently involved,
b) have previously been involved or
c) are contemplating getting involved
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TW
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Yes, I have heard those kind of arrangement before and I am sorry for those workers. He said, NO WAGES for almost a year, he didn't say he was giving them pocket money, minimum wage is also pocket money. If those Uncles has a family, how can they feed them, as you say they are poor and as I understand they do not even live close to Mindoro . Promise of a share if they make a recovery is next to nothing as their chance of making a successful recovery is on or about 95% failure, unless they have all sign readers who are experts on Japanese signs or hi-tech scanning equipment.
Like I said, it none of my business but just thinking out loud and I pity those kind of people that accept those kind of terms.
Dahvos also mentioned that he wants to Buy Out his Enlistment Contract so he can get out of the Navy, nowadays,
there is no such thing , he can get a Financial Hardship Discharge though.
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First and foremost ... of the 3 uncles and two cousins (now including a brother in law) who have/are worked for us knew from the get-go that WE (myself and my fiance) could not afford for wages. Our requirements when looking for possible candidates within the family were if they were 1) trustworthy 2) upright and honest 3) did not need a job to provide for their families. You do not understand everything nor do i have to explain myself for every loveing facet because this is my business...the more details you know the more i give myself away which puts people in danger. BUT if you must know ........the first two bastard uncles actually own a small mining operation a lil north of Davao which is why they were recruited. They stole the first bar and THEY are not dead because they have experiance in gold. The cousin who is now dead is one of their sons. The other cousin left dig site after a month of digging because he needed an actual job........later he joined his father the second uncle from the first group of thieves after they made their getaway. Uncle C is now dead who was beat alongside my wife.......He is retired military and still receives a pension and his wife has a good job so I did not starve any families. In fact the brother in law who is now helping us I could not recruit earlier because he was the only provider for his family (fiances sister and their son and babe on the breast) But his wife now makes 3X as much as he was driving truck by working at the courthouse.........So have i answered your questions? I drafted a contract that the workers will each receive 10% of all said found objects. After the first cousin left and the first two uncles cheated us i drafted another contract for 20 percent for the remaining cousin and uncle each. NOW i have only one brother in law plus my father in law at the dig site and they are what i have considered as my core family so all proceeds will be split equally. So really I mainly am the one getting loveed here. If uncle C and the cousin did not cheat us they would still be alive and i would of sold that bar to Tom. Everybody would of been happy but then again this is not a story book!!
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Let me continue about my buissiness..........in fact since running this operation We have been losing money. And since my ol lady is in mindoro keeping me informed and giving me news who do you think is running the bar and buisiness.......not us which means we are not receiving our profits and are being down right cheated. The bar is always every month breaking even never negative (BLANK i remember the first 4 months of buissiness before this gold in mindoro) and the agency is slow right now. Something i thought that might take a month or two has turned into more stress and wreckage than its worth. So after recovering almost 30 kilo collectively from two gold bars and not seeing a penny while i am being raped .........with always the thought i am just about to recover all my financial losses and regain my freedom and able to actually be there for my family ....then getting it snatched away through human greed. POST EDITED AT REQUEST OF Dahvos
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Let me continue about my buissiness..........in fact since running this operation We have been losing money. ME and my fiancee since before this whole gold ordeal own a LISCENCED and REGISTERED recruiting agency for overseas workers and we used alot of our profits from that to open a resto bar in ERMITA 16 mo ago which costed 1.2 mil peso we paid upfront. And since my ol lady is in mindoro keeping me informed and giving me news who do you think is running the bar and buisiness.......not us which means we are not receiving our profits and are being down right cheated. The bar is always every month breaking even never negative (BLANK i remember the first 4 months of buissiness before this gold in mindoro) and the agency is slow right now. Something i thought that might take a month or two has turned into more stress and wreckage than its worth. So after recovering almost 30 kilo collectively from two gold bars and not seeing a penny while i am being raped .........with always the thought i am just about to recover all my financial losses and regain my freedom and able to actually be there for my family ....then getting it snatched away through human greed. I am now going to be forced to sell our resto bar for a fraction of its cost since now with a baby it would be impossible to run......which we are now trying to do. It was a dream once but now its just collateral. So does anybody in manila want to buy my resto bar in Ermita for 500,000 peso negotiable.
sir i sent you PM
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to sell/buy the PLACE as you call it, a attorney is required..so....
all details pls so that can be done by potential buyers (?)
as you have now offered it for sale it has become public knowledge.
name address, license # etc etc, you know that sort of thing....
regards
POST EDITED AT REQUEST OF Dhavos. For Security reasons, please PM your info to each other.
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yep i realized that when i posted but i dont have to sell it and i can always use a middle man. I was just curious to see who was hiding in the bushes.
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yep i realized that when i posted but i dont have to sell it and i can always use a middle man. I was just curious to see who was hiding in the bushes.
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just what are you talking about..."Hiding in the bushes"?? and now a complete change of mind..?? well make your mind up so we know which statement to query...?...............
I think i will just post our resto bar for sale on a site that deals with that. This is not a place for that sort of thing plus i wish to avoid more security problems in the future so admin you can delete that part of that post or all of it. I fear trying to sell it to someone here will just lead to more problems in the future. thanks. (come to think of it you can delete this post too after you delete the other) :)
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and what exactly are you saying about this site? That it is full of "Bad people" or............??
remember your post and request..."So does anybody in manila want to buy my resto bar in Ermita for 500,000 peso negotiable."
are you now withdrawing that statement/request.? so that you dont have to give and or pm details about it..? ;)
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yep i realized that when i posted but i dont have to sell it and i can always use a middle man. I was just curious to see who was hiding in the bushes.
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just what are you talking about..."Hiding in the bushes"?? and now a complete change of mind..?? well make your mind up so we know which statement to query...?...............
I think i will just post our resto bar for sale on a site that deals with that. This is not a place for that sort of thing plus i wish to avoid more security problems in the future so admin you can delete that part of that post or all of it. I fear trying to sell it to someone here will just lead to more problems in the future. thanks. (come to think of it you can delete this post too after you delete the other) :)
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and what exactly are you saying about this site? That it is full of "Bad people" or............??
remember your post and request..."So does anybody in manila want to buy my resto bar in Ermita for 500,000 peso negotiable."
are you now withdrawing that statement/request.? so that you dont have to give and or pm details about it..? ;)
sir dahvos:
i think i have to comment too. i sent you a PM because my relative is looking for investments/business, it just so happened that you mentioned selling your restobar. about being apprehensive dealing with people in this forum, on my part i am willing to give you my personal details. send documents as proof of my identity.
i guess you are more prone to scammers if you have posted your "for sale" in a buy and sell website ;)
and about the "security problems" you were talking about. you are the first person to post in this forum so many details about your gold find.
peace..
ps. i haven't received any reply from you but that's ok with me.
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the reason why i rescinded my offer is exactly that I dont know you people and i would rather keep my fiancees identity intact since i am in no danger here in the states. I can post all i want on my own personal information it will really do you no good since all our properties and business is in her name until we are married. But if people are genuinely interested in buying our bar (and dont have alternitive intentions) they can message me.... Lets be frank here do you really think everybody on these forums is an actual honest treasure hunter some could be waiting for such details for illegal activities. In the past i have gotten what i consider spam by forumers who have only posted a few times messaging me that they want to sell me a map or gold. Or they want to help in the transport free of charge. Those are exactly the kind of people i want to stay away from. I will talk to my fiancee and see what she thinks since it is her information and her life that will be risked.
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sir dahvos, i sent you PM
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Mr Z i sent you 2
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the reason why i rescinded my offer is exactly that I dont know you people and i would rather keep my fiancees identity intact since i am in no danger here in the states. I can post all i want on my own personal information it will really do you no good since all our properties and business is in her name until we are married. But if people are genuinely interested in buying our bar (and dont have alternitive intentions) they can message me.... 2..Lets be frank here do you really think everybody on these forums is an actual honest treasure hunter some could be waiting for such details for illegal activities. 1..In the past i have gotten what i consider spam by forumers who have only posted a few times messaging me that they want to sell me a map or gold. Or they want to help in the transport free of charge. Those are exactly the kind of people i want to stay away from. I will talk to my fiancee and see what she thinks since it is her information and her life that will be risked.
1.. are you saying members in this forum have done that..??
2.. considering this statement why did you even bother to offer your resto for sale then...? there are far more secure ways of selling a business, but as you now have withdrawn that.....
hmm..lots of our questions are just being ignored whilst other members get answered...just like..?
ah well never mind.. get the message nah... ;)
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1. thats exactly what i said!
2. in frustration is why i offered it... then i realized what that ment in its entirely...
Tell me what questions are being ignored? The one about no info on the bodies perhaps!!
I am awaiting more info myself so when i get that info i will share it.
When i first heard the news from my fiance about the deaths ..the first thing i did was check the newspapers and online news so i was a step ahead.
We have a theory and a possible lead which i WONT share until i get some of my own questions answered about the now deceased.
Have patience and a little understanding
And some things i have not shared here on this thread! A few members who have taken the time to message me in the past and ask me questions have received answers that fill in some things/gaps....... And sometimes i must ask those questions to my fiancee for answers if i dont have them right away.
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#2 totally acceptable.!!
#1.had it been me, then those names would be on this site in large letters!! as everyone has the right also to know who they are so they also dont get scammed and or duped by those people.!! would you care to divulge their names ..??
Buy Out your Enlistment Contract so you can get out of the Navy...?? info required pls.
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Boyscout was one offering to sell me maps. He has 0 posts, all the messages i deleted way back when they offered but i am 100percent remember Boyscout was the name of one of them.... Yes buying out my contract has been my goal for the past almost 3 years way before this gold buiss. Some say you can, some say you cant. It could be an urban myth. One of my buddys in my workshop swears his friend who is the same rate as us did it when he was in his C school and that he had to pay back all the money that the navy had ever paid him in wages/bonus even the taxable. And yes i can get a Financial Hardship Discharge but i dont know all the peticulars on that nor how much money u need to be consideredfor discharge. It wont matter if i dont find any more gold because without the money its pointless to start that process
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city. (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city.) The man in the black shirt i know is the uncle but the cousin was wearing blue shirt and pants. I am supprised the body count is now 5. The uncle is 41 years of age and the cousin in his mid 20s. I am pretty sure these deaths are all related. My fiance said there were signs of torture heavy blunt trauma to the face and heads and they were shot once each (i asked where they were shot in their bodys she said she did not ask where yet) Both bodys were flown to cdo yesterday in the custody of the auntie. I have asked for BETTER details also the names of the officers in charge of the investigation. It is confusing to me some sources online say one was shot or all were strangled different conflicting information on ages ...check it yourself
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http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=65&articleid=770693 (http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=65&articleid=770693) yep these are them for sure
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Boyscout was one offering to sell me maps. He has 0 posts, all the messages i deleted way back when they offered but i am 100percent remember Boyscout was the name of one of them.... Yes buying out my contract has been my goal for the past almost 3 years way before this gold buiss. Some say you can, some say you cant. It could be an urban myth.1.. One of my buddys in my workshop swears his friend who is the same rate as us did it when he was in his C school and that he had to pay back all the money that the navy had ever paid him in wages/bonus even the taxable. 2..And yes i can get a Financial Hardship Discharge but i dont know all the peticulars on that nor how much money u need to be consideredfor discharge. It wont matter if i dont find any more gold because without the money its pointless to start that process
Boyscout his email is ."thirdtwist3d@yahoo.com"
owner of said email is "Irma Cosme Copa" who is married and lives in Baguio. So maybe not her but someone who uses her email...?
You can check that out on FB.
1.. that is BS, sorry..!
2..To be able to do that you have to have enough so that it takes you all your time looking after your own finances. so,,,a couple of million Bucks (US) should do it....... ;)
how do i know, just spent 25yrs in the military, +5yrs active reserve, and was working at Coronada Cal for a while....its who you know... ;)
anyway there yah go....
Tip, win the US lottery and you will be out in 3 weeks......
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i'm not a gambler LOL ;D.......casinos or lotto anyway
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And yes i know i could smoke some weed or some spice and be out less than a month but i am a man of honor and that is not my kind of way.
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city. (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133423/3-dead-men-found-in-quezon-city.) The man in the black shirt i know is the uncle but the cousin was wearing blue shirt and pants. I am supprised the body count is now 5. The uncle is 41 years of age and the cousin in his mid 20s. I am pretty sure these deaths are all related. My fiance said there were signs of torture heavy blunt trauma to the face and heads and they were shot once each (i asked where they were shot in their bodys she said she did not ask where yet) Both bodys were flown to cdo yesterday in the custody of the auntie. I have asked for BETTER details also the names of the officers in charge of the investigation. It is confusing to me some sources online say one was shot or all were strangled different conflicting information on ages ...check it yourself
Conflicting is the right word for the report says they were strangled and this is in Quezon City. Your first post about those deaths was they were shot and it happened in Manila, so, which is true.
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that long winded post of Zobex is Not for a termination of contract,
but this.. "QUALIFIED ENLISTED SAILORS MAY SUBMIT REQUESTS FOR EARLY SEPARATION
TO COMNAVPERSCOM (PERS-832) VIA THEIR COMMANDING OFFICER
(CO) FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THEIR EAOS OR EXTENDED EAOS."
or....early retirement from service up to 12 months ahead of termination date..
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they were strangled and beaten and shot. Also the article has switched their ages. I am inquiring about where the bullet wounds were on the bodys. I have requested even the autopsy report from the aunt but all this info goes through the aunt to my womans sister then to my woman. So hopefully today i have those answers
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They were found in Quezon city!! To me Quezon is apart of manila.
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I have some news for everybody which i have mixed feelings about!! The uncle and cousin that stole from us last month were found dead yesterday or the day before in Manila. Both died from bullets and the suspects are unknown nor will probably ever be known. Doesnt take a genius to figure out they died from trying to sell that 12 kilo 18k gold bar. Karma has gone full circle and I really do feel bad for their families (Greed will get you killed in the end)!!! :(
2 'salvage' victims found near North Cemetery
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 01/23/2012 4:37 PM | Updated as of 01/23/2012 4:37 PM
MANILA, Philippines – Two suspected victims of summary execution were discovered Monday night near the Manila North Cemetery.
Police Officer 2 Regidor Mallari of Quezon City Police District Station 1, said the victims may have been choked to death since their bodies had no wounds or blood stains.
Mallari also suspects the victims were killed somewhere else and were only dumped in the area.
“Yung kulay nila talagang iba na, maputla. Kung dito sila pinatay dapat may dugo man lang,” Mallari said.
Michael Abellana, a village watchman who was among the first to respond to the incident, said a child told him of seeing a vehicle dumping the bodies in the poorly-lit area.
The child was already gone by the time the police investigators arrived at the scene.
An investigation is ongoing to identify the victims and determine why they were killed. – report from Jacque Manabat, ABS-CBN News
all happened at the same date, the only difference is the gunshot and suffocation and its all in Manila.
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All i know is that the uncle was wearing a black shirt and jeans and the cousin was wearing a blue shirt and slacks. Uncle 41 and Cousin 23-25 i am not sure. Both victims show massive trauma to the head and signs of strangulation, also they were apiece shot in the chest. That is the info i have, both bodys were sent to cdo last thursday i think and are now buried since this weekend. These two victims match the article in a somewhat way unless the information has not yet been released to the public because of investigation. I thought at first there was no investigation nor leads because the bodies were released on last wendsday to the wife of the now deceased uncle. If they ever release the names to the public then i will tell u right now their last name begins with a N.
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The Plot thickens Holmes..... ;)
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This is not a joke nor a story!! This is life and death.....and these reletives actions could of jeopardized other lives!! The last thing i want is to come back from deployment and find out my fiance and my child and my extended family are all dead because of human greed went full circle..... By the way we found another bar of gold 48 hours or so ago exactly 25 feet deep from the last one. And in five more feet or so we shall find another marker hopefully and the next bar of gold will be 20 feet deep from that. Just like the past 3 times!!!
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Right you are Watson....a watchful eye for Moriarty will suffice.... ;)
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pictures tomorrow or the next day depending on weather/brownouts. Bought a decent cam for 5000 php and my 2 most precious ladies have made the long bus/ferry ride back to the dig site. If they turn out we shall have pics of the gold bar with cement on it in parts and when it has been cleaned from the cement. ;D
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thanks for waiting here ya go .....these will probably be my last posts on this thread btw. I have learned alot this past year and i think i have learned all that i am going to learn on this site. I will be around and i may from time to time peek in!!! There is hope for you all........ just dont wish to hard for something because then you'll get it and it wont be worth the trouble!!!!!!
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here
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here is some more. thats all folks!!
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well, every single pic out of focus, with his brand new php5000 cam.??
now that tells a story Mr Watson........
Exactly Mr Holmes...tea anyone...??
:D ;)
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one thing is certain, your newly bought cam don't have stabilizer ;D
anyway, kudos to your new find.
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Watson are you struggling with this..?
Yep Holmes, something stuck in my throat...?
why am i talking in a third party view...??
do i believe this.? No !!
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exactly why i am done here is people like you! Dont really care if you believe me or not Somebody important here will so you are'nt going to get a rise out of me. have a good day. go ahead and lock thread i am done.
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oh my, Moriarty is going away....ah well, he'll be back with another episode I'm sure Watson...
Until then Holmes, another read of the story........more tea perhaps..? ;)
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Mr. Dahvos, I believe you. By the way how much does that bar weigh? It is not the usual 6-kilo-some, is it?
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got the info today when i got home from my job that the weight its 9 kilo. They bought a cheap scale so i am sure its not right on the dot. Had an awsome 200usd scale before but that was in the bag with the last gb when it got stolen by the now deceased cousin and uncle. The scale was 14k plated gold and a thing of beauty and very accurate.
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Janner posting your disbelief is fine because i dont expect every one to. Even if all the information was laid out to you and the pics were clear as day there would still be disbelievers ..... but i would appreciate you to stop trolling. Thanks in advance!!
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The pics were NOT clear at all, they are all blurred, and some you cannot zoom, ask anyone !!
after checking with Philtech they denied your story !!
and the whole story is just to........pat for anyone. to much detail to be messed up with contradictions.
and trolling who me ?.. haha well i never.. :D
Told you Mr Watson. ;)
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Sir Dahvos, that was 9 kilos? Wow! Great find indeed.
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of course they would deny of trying to cheat us!! Mr Taylor was gone pretty much all of december and soon it wont matter because we shall be there again in the near future. And that which happen in december will be brought to his attention!!! Concerning the pics they were much to big to upload they were mostly over 1mb.... so without changing the format i cant do a whole lot about that. unless TW can do something!!!
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1..of course they would deny of trying to cheat us!! Mr Taylor was gone pretty much all of december and soon it wont matter because we shall be there again in the near future.2.. And that which happen in december will be brought to his attention!!! Concerning the pics they were much to big to upload they were mostly over 1mb.... 3..so without changing the format i cant do a whole lot about that. unless TW can do something!!!
well here we go again Watson. ;)
1..Why would a reputable company like that deny such people like you? after all you are small fry compared to some of his businesses....what would he gain.??
2.."and that which happened in December" he is already aware of..and responded to when he was asked !!
3..a guy of your caliber is unable to Upload pics,,? Wow !! even with instructions within this forum? Hmm..
methinks more tea is required.......? ;)
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Those gold bar photos posted has an unusual shape. What might be the Dimension if I may ask? If the gold bar posted comes out as genuine if assayed, it will give me a new perspective as I have always pictured in my mind that a gold bar rectangular in shape has one side of greater dimension than the opposite side .
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1 i cannot answer that but i imagine the people he had watching his place at least the first set would deny anything that would get them in trouble
2 let us see I will have my answers very soon... I saw the receipt for the assay with my own eyes late december.
3 I have always just used jpg files for pictures so i have nothing to currently change the files to another format. nor the time tonight to do so. But perhaps i shall do in my spare time tomorrow.
t_hunter44 yes it does have an unusual shape ... i told her that i thought it was a piece of rebar wrapped or painted in gold paint or something. i never got to see the second bar that we had but i am told it was similar in appearance and the first one you can see for yourself in this thread. So yes all three bars appear abnormal.......let us wait a few days and alot of these types of questions will be answered! The exact dimensions i will let somebody else from this forum tell you when they see it because i am not currently there.
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exactly why i am done here is people like you! Dont really care if you believe me or not Somebody important here will so you are'nt going to get a rise out of me. have a good day. go ahead and lock thread i am done.
Give him a break, Janner, his fiancee is a lousy photographer.
No we're not locking any thread here. Who mentioned about that?
TW
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It is not my business to talk on the find of others but something is not quite right there. I do not say that those are fake or something since I cannot say so by mere looking at the picture as I am not properly trained on it but by computing it approximately based on the dimension shown by the tape measure, it does not conform with the said 9 kilos weight.
Say 16 cm x 4 cm x 3 cm x 18.9 g/cc for 24 karats as gold density = 3628.8 grams /1000 = 3.629 kilos [that is the maximum weight it could be since the density used on said computation is on the purest gold state]
What I am saying is that they might just mistook reading the weight. That is all
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let us see.
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It is not my business to talk on the find of others but something is not quite right there. I do not say that those are fake or something since I cannot say so by mere looking at the picture as I am not properly trained on it but by computing it approximately based on the dimension shown by the tape measure, it does not conform with the said 9 kilos weight.
Say 16 cm x 4 cm x 3 cm x 18.9 g/cc for 24 karats as gold density = 3628.8 grams /1000 = 3.629 kilos [that is the maximum weight it could be since the density used on said computation is on the purest gold state]
What I am saying is that they might just mistook reading the weight. That is all
i agree, it's somewhat small for a 9 kilo.
sir dahvos, have your wife double check it. have her buy a more accurate weighing scale.
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;) there yah go........... ::)
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I also agree....... let me check with her again because 9k is grossly way off!!
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exactly why i am done here is people like you! Dont really care if you believe me or not Somebody important here will so you are'nt going to get a rise out of me. have a good day. go ahead and lock thread i am done.
Give him a break, Janner, his fiancee is a lousy photographer.
No we're not locking any thread here. Who mentioned about that?
TW
Dahvos himself said to Lock it as he said he is done in this forum.
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exactly why i am done here is people like you! Dont really care if you believe me or not Somebody important here will so you are'nt going to get a rise out of me. have a good day. go ahead and lock thread i am done.
Give him a break, Janner, his fiancee is a lousy photographer.
No we're not locking any thread here. Who mentioned about that?
TW
Dahvos himself said to Lock it as he said he is done in this forum.
Well he emailed to me NOT to lock it so don't lock it.
TW
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Tell one to to do this, posts saying to do that...?
is this a new game, ?? ;)
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a little confused by conflicting stories......check these out.......
Re: Mindoro
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2011, 02:45:19 PM »
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here u go the promised pictures!!! The lines in the bar are scratch marks from the blade they used to clean the bar of cement. The side views show the 200 gram weight gouge that we are going to assay in a few days. The total weight of the bar is a little over 16 kilos. in a few days i should have some proper pictures with a ruler in it. Again sorry about the quality of the pics but this is just the first taste and we are still digging through cement.
the same bar but much later.......................
Re: Mindoro
« Reply #133 on: January 23, 2012, 02:50:48 PM »
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I have some news for everybody which i have mixed feelings about!! The uncle and cousin that stole from us last month were found dead yesterday or the day before in Manila. Both died from bullets and the suspects are unknown nor will probably ever be known. Doesnt take a genius to figure out they died from trying to sell that 12 kilo 18k gold bar. Karma has gone full circle and I really do feel bad for their families (Greed will get you killed in the end)!!
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as you can see the bar suddenly got lighter (?) and the new recent bar stated at 9 kilos is now being re-weighed.....??
Walter Mitty never had this problem.. ;)
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number 1 the first bar was 16kilos..........................2 the second was 12kilos ....genius!!!!!!!!!!! So you obviously have not been following whats going on. There were two gold bars previously and both were stolen why dont you reread things.
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thankyou, just needed clarification on a few things......
oh dont worry i have followed every word of the saga...... ;)
just needed your words.. ;) (for the files)
must talk to Tom again...
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instead of worrying about my buissiness why dont you focus on your own!
Soon Tony and Tom will know TRUTH regardless and it will be posted here!
Tom has not seen any of the gold from us because this past time he was on vacation. and the first gb got jacked even before we could take it to Philtech So besides of what went down in december he has very little to do with this!
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instead of worrying about my buissiness why dont you focus on your own!
Soon Tony and Tom will know TRUTH regardless and it will be posted here!
Tom has not seen any of the gold from us because this past time he was on vacation. and the first gb got jacked even before we could take it to Philtech So besides of what went down in december he has very little to do with this!
That's the bad side, or is it the good side, that once you post it here, it is public business and anyone can comment on it, wither positive or negative comments and that is the risk you have to take when you post photos or statements. One has to be very careful in posting in a public forum and if they find it ridiculous, then expect some flak. Some people just let it lay but to some, they cannot help themselves from questioning or commenting and the person bringing it out in the open knows the consequences as some people tend to look at him/her on the negative side but to some, they like it when someone takes courage to bring it out. My advice, be very careful on what you post and make it believable. Tom of Philtech denied your accusation of his people as the person that is haunting you tried to verify your accusation. When one has made several postings and someone with an inquisitive mind summarizes those postings, it should add up but if one adds 2 plus 2 and didn't come up with the right answer, something has to be wrong. Just my 2 cents worth.
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exactly why i am done here is people like you! Dont really care if you believe me or not Somebody important here will so you are'nt going to get a rise out of me. have a good day. go ahead and lock thread i am done.
Give him a break, Janner, his fiancee is a lousy photographer.
No we're not locking any thread here. Who mentioned about that?
TW
Dahvos himself said to Lock it as he said he is done in this forum.
Well he emailed to me NOT to lock it so don't lock it.
TW
It never came to mind to Lock the Topic, even with his suggestion. ;D
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wow. interesting. learned a lot since I'm from mindoro. Wish I will be lucky in my quest for GB here.
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We have started our way to simple depo of GB but @ d entrance r notable marks, we tried to crample d first object with an inviting shape and here nuggets of gold! From one place to another where all d buried treasure in darkness may be revealed unto us! Thanks for tseatc.com!
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Can I join? I found shape of diamond 2x3 inches in the sea while swimming. Well-shaped and pure diamond as assayed and tested! I was in Mamburao last March 2013.... Wish we can meet in Mindoro with the same interest!
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better if you could post some pictures sir dawn ;)
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any update at your project sir dawn?