Letter of Saint Paul to the Romans 8:8-11
Brothers and sisters: Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh; on the contrary, you are in the spirit, if only the spirit of God dwells in you. Whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is alive because of righteousness. If the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the one who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also, through his Spirit dwelling in you.
Place a dozen of people in one room and have them read a chapter in the bible, same chapter for all and they will come up with different interpretations. One has to have the Spirit of God in him to understand the bible. When people encounters the supernatural or the unexplained, for reasons unknown to me, they come up with the conclusion that it is the work of the devil. People that has the 3rd eye, are they detestable to God, it is a Gods given gift. If a spirit of the dead comes up to the Medium asking for help, like prayers, is that the devil requesting, that is absurd. I also know a priest, a Godly priest that has the 3rd eye, you cannot make me believe that he is detestable to God. At one time in the Ming forum , I admitted that I use dowsing rods or divining rods, also a Gods given gift, and somebody said that using it is evil because how it works cannot be proven or explained. I fired back and I did not mince words, God is not proven and a lot of knowledgeable people tried to disprove that their is God, So are you saying that God is evil, never got a reply from this guy again. There are evil spirits and good ones too but please do not categorize them all as evil. The Dwarfs, Fairies and so on, if you believe they exist, are not spirits, only man has spirits. Like my friend Diwata said, read your bible and they are offended by being called spirits., they are also a creation of God. They are more Godly than some people I know and I know deep in my heart they are my true friends and is not here to deceive me.
Fernando,
Yes but yours is more pronounced or clear as it looks like it was cast on Ceramic while the one I posted was scribed on a rock. That mark seems like a standard mark used by the Japanese. Are you somewhere in the Ilocos Region , maybe in La Union. You do not have to answer that.
its ok T DOUBLE FOUR
MY SITE IS IN PANIQUI TARLAC.
YOUR RIGHT SEEMS THAT JAPANESE USES SOME UNIVERSAL SYMBOLS.
I ENCOUNTERED A LOT ALREADY FOUND IN DIFFERENT T-SITES.
hehehe by the lesson i've learned in this forum I teased my husband...why he sometimes felt that electro magnetic shock. I told him that he was charged the whole day coz he is always on the pc. This is his past time.
I can relate to your explanation ghost. I know now why i also felt grounded whenever i touch our sliding door before. I also noticed that the tip of my fingers sometimes spark when i touch a metal especially if im inside an air conditioned room and sometimes when my skin get in contact with another skin. I was working with computers 8 to 10 hours a day before also. Now it was gone coz im not working in an enclosed computer room. Thanks to this forum...i've got the answer of my an unasked question. Merry Christmas to all of you guys and Wishing you all a prosperous and blessed new year!!!
To all,Vourvon,
I read the article by the expert for the spirit behavior that the spirit get energy on heat and also I read the other technique of MD that the gold under ground is produced the heat thats way the special MD sense the underneath gold or gold in the cave, so my analysis the reason why the gold is guarded by the spirit because they need the heat of gold to have the energy. If the guardian spirit dont want to give the gold in treasure hunter the spirit make something to fear in vicinity. Is that correct? Thanks.
My 2 cents...There is this plant that they call Balao in Ilocano, has big green leaves and has white sap, soft and brittle branches and has a nutlike fruit.. My two cousins and myself were by the river one day and we saw this rat fighting with a snake. The rat will bite the snake runs over to the balao plant and bites it and then goes back to the fray and he did these about three times. My cousin broke off a branch from the Balao and hit the snake with it and the snake stayed still or got knocked out. Our Grandpa later told us that Balao is effective against snakes and you can also revive the snake according to him with Dangla, Ilocano Term, Dangla in Ilocano is also a herbal medicine. Sorry to say that I only know the Ilocano names for those plants mentioned, maybe somebody here can provide the Tagalog or Bisayan names for those plants I mentioned.
As long as there are holes, attended or not, there are possibilities that any type of cobras or snakes of different colors, be accidentally drop or hibernate inside. Probably, it is only coincidence that most of the snake seen are white.
we were in between the mountain of Tarlac and Zambales, there is this special kind of wood used by the aborigines (Aetas), where when use it to snakes, they just run away from it even without hitting them. I only forget the name of this wood. Maybe somebody here encountered this and still remember its name.
If Adam & Eve where Pinoys then they were the first human being to commit murder and animal cruelty.Maskara,
At least the Chinese considered it as food not a crime.
The Pinoy's it's an enemy therefore it's a crime.
hey guy's i prove that kind of thing is exist because when my brother took a picture in the area where the treasure located i saw many creature that is not explainable... i got scared when i see it..... i think they exist in this world especially where the treasure is.....Was those creatures that you mentioned in the picture that your brother took,and if so, can you post it. Thanks and Welcome to TSEATC, enjoy, and welcome to the world of the Paranormal.
On all of the stories circulating about paranormal subjects, especially in relation with Japanese/spanish treasure, can anybody here among the members and guests alike can stand and say: Yes! With the help of the spirits, 3rd eye, medium we were able to retrieved 'these volume' of gold/treasures'.
The reason why I brought this question is because I have read so much stories about supernatural who tries to help in retrieving treasures but no one has ever said they were succesful in any of it, suffice to say that the conclusions are all were stories.
Is it a possibility that these spirits are really not helping us? But trying to confuse us and giving misguided advices to be wrong in what we are doing?
Just my curiousity....
(BTW, when we say yes, we need to see some proof.)
Angel
Just recently... one of our digger experience something that even him cannot explain.. while he is doing his stuff in our dig and when he is about to fill the bucket to be pulled up.. he just saw the bucket float in front of him and suddenly smack on his face.. nobody was with him inside the hole during that time and the bucket was unhook from the pull-rope, the other guys were busy attending to our water pumps because all three pumps were acting weird... strange huh..
Just recently... one of our digger experience something that even him cannot explain.. while he is doing his stuff in our dig and when he is about to fill the bucket to be pulled up.. he just saw the bucket float in front of him and suddenly smack on his face.. nobody was with him inside the hole during that time and the bucket was unhook from the pull-rope, the other guys were busy attending to our water pumps because all three pumps were acting weird... strange huh..
Wow! That's really strange! I bet that guy RAN like hell after that! I sure would have!
TW
There was a question on the bible school when I was still in College that goes this way:
On the subject of talking with the spirits:
If someone has been possessed and you have to cast the spirit away, are you going to talk first with the spirit?
or how will you cast it away if you do not talk or have a contact with it?
If you have to talk with the spirit first, then you initiated the contact.
Isn't that ANOTHER FORM of desire to seek the uncleaned spirit?
Just a food for thought...
4 different denomination's pastor have 3 different answers. The two still says that it is still contacting the uncleaned spirit and had to also undergo spiritual cleansing after the casting.
On 1 Samuel Chap 31, had Saul contacted an uncleaned spirit?
4 different denomination's pastor have 3 different answers. The two still says that it is still contacting the uncleaned spirit and had to also undergo spiritual cleansing after the casting.Saul in disguise had this woman medium contact Samuel for Samuel is dead only to be told that Saul is not favored by the Lord and and he and his sons will join him the next day, meaning they will be dead like Samuel. Saul did not die because he used a medium, he died because he was not favored by the Lord as he did not follow the Lords will or instructions. Samuel cannot be an unclean spirit as he is from God. When one says"unclean spirit", hopefully it was referring to Satan and his followers. Not all unseen entities are evil and not all unseen entities are spirit of men for there are also unseen entities that was created by God for other purposes and of a different dimension . Only men or people have spirit.
On 1 Samuel Chap 31, had Saul contacted an uncleaned spirit?
it so easy to undentify if the spirit if its from a dead person or other entities if you know the "LATIN" hehehehehe....
Your words"guardian spirits can be explained scientifically and logically". Ok, please explain either way, I can always learn new thingsIt is the very unusual thing that can be explained scientifically and logically. Fine, I have these very unusual thing that happened on my last project on 2008. In 2007, the Diwata friend(Fairy of the Forest named Maria Elena ask why I am digging in Quirino whilst there is Spanish Treasure buried in my backyard. When I came back to the island in 2008, I located the site by my dowsing rod,then confirmed it with my Rover C and it indicated a metal object about 30 feet deep. A relative that has a 4th eye came to my place a few days later and I showed him around but did not mention anything about the Spanish Treasure but close to the area where I detected, he told me that there is treasure underneath, I played ignorant and I asked if its a Japanese treasure and he said, No, Spanish and the next day he came back with a drawing on what to expect underground and one was a jawbone of an animal and a flat stone covering a jar. Ok, we started digging but the water table was about 20 feet so I bought some Concrete culvert as I was thinking of making it the house water source.While digging, we placed the 36" diameter culvert in the hole and it will go down by itself as we dug deeper. We found the jawbone at around 25 feet and at about 30 feet, my digger told me there is a solid thing like a rock on center of our target area, I went down to the hole and confirmed it as a flat stone, place my hand to feel for it and it was flat, covered only by a few inches of loose sand. Since it was getting dark and I do not normally work my people past 6, I said, lets stop, we will break that stone tomorrow. Next morning after pumping out the water accumulation the previous night, my digger went down and said there is no more solid object and he showed me by his crowbar and anywhere inside the culvert, the crowbar will go in about 2 feet easily. I went down the hole to confirm and my dowsing rod will go in the sand to the handle and anywhere inside that culvert is just sand. When I got topside, I asked the dowsing rod who was responsible and the rod was pointing at a particular direction and I was mad so I used my Latin Prayers for the Enemy to drive them away, they left but the damage is done. My friend from N.E. stopped by to visit the next day on their way to Baguio and he told me I made a mistake of driving them away by using the Latin Prayer to drive away enemies and he said not to consider them enemies as they were just playing around.
The statement above is different to what I have written. I will copy it:
We 'coined' every unusual things that happen in any treasure projects as work of 'guardian spirits' which in my opinion can be explained scientifically and logically.
It is the "every unusual thing" that can be explained scientifically and logically, not the "guardian spirit".
I've tried to put my words explicitly but still it was misconstrued.
In my opinion regarding this story, there is nothing unusual in this story.Nothing unusual about my experience, Okay, not unusual for you but it is to me. Story like this needs to be accompanied by evidences to be credible, I have my collections of the signs and markers I have found in my projects and I leave them in the P.I. as I do not deem it necessary to bring them to the states and you can either accept my story or deny it without the evidence you hanker for. There was 8 of us, 5 laborers and my medium and a friend from California and myself and I am not gonna produce Notarized Statements . People that knows me know that I have a Word of Honor and lying or fabricating stories is not one of my endowments. Everything I post in here is actual knowledge and experiences and I do not pretend to be a know-it-all. A few People in this Forum that I have not met personally can vouch that I have integrity and naming them is not necessary. I also have proven my dowsing prowess here with about 5 individuals that I can dowse even if we are continents or oceans apart, ie; like placing a coin under 3 cups or 5 cups and I can tell which cup has the coin, plucking a hair from any member of the family,given the names, I can tell who it was and even plucking a hair by thought alone, no physical plucking and I was able to determine which of family member got his or her plucked. Am I boasting, you can say that but its a proven fact. There is a lot of Mysterious things happening in these world of ours and one has to have an open mind.
Your 'Diwata friend' informed you about spanish treasure, and your relative who have 4th eye confirmed it, that there is spanish treasure in your yard. He made a drawing to support his 'claim', which promted you to believe that there really is treasure underneath. However, your target was gone on the last morning and you asked your dowsing what causes the disappearance of the supposed treasures. And the dowsing told you that it was cause by 'other spirits' (enemy) and you drove them by your prayer. Your another friend from N.E. told you that they are not enemies and are just playing. To cut it short, the treasure was not retrieved because of these 'enemy-playful spirits'.
Logically speaking, story of this kind needs to be vouch by evidences which are related to the story to be credible, say for example the original drawing made by your relative who have 4th eye and the photo of the actual jawbone your group had recovered. I'm not saying that this story is not true, but for anyone to be believable to anybody, it needs to be supported by evidences.
HOWEVER...granting that your operation was really toyed by the 'spirits', then my opinion written previously applies:
In my opinion, if these spirits really exist and can do anything over the living, what they can do is to disturb and distort our own 'spirit' and mislead our minds so that it will lose whatever faith, logic and knowledge we have.
If you still remember the 7th secret of my mentor regarding treasure hunting, it states as follow: "IF THE TREASURE IS UNDERNEATH, YOU WILL GET IT IF IT IS THERE." :)
jackbruno,Thou shalt not have NO other Gods before me for I am a jealous God. You must be of the Other Denomination. When and If a Catholic is is praying in front of a replica of the Blessed Virgin Mary or any any Saint or the Infant Jesus, though made of WOOD,They are asking for their ASSISTANCE for the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of Jesus and she should have great influence to the son and even the Saints have great influence to Jesus as they followed and learned from Jesus. Do not try to TWIST things around to make your point to better portray your group. All those people Praying or Talking to the Image that your sect so abhor is just asking for Assistance and they Never did Consider that Mary or the Saints is GOD and God knows what is in your mind or in your heart, God is all knowing. Did you ever WANT something from your Father but you fear of getting denied so you ASK the assistance of your MOTHER to persuade you Father to grant what you wish, SIMO-SIMO.
Yes your right, our Creator is a jealous God that why he don't want the people pray in the front of the image of anybody form with stone, wood and etc. Instead you go to, to your room, lock the door and implore and direct pray for him and don't pray like others with memorized word bcoz your talking to God so make it short, before you open your mouth he already know what your want to say. But in t-site you have no room I suggest you go to near place without seeing you bcoz the God seeing you in secret will listen to you. Take note not all people prayed the God is listening unless Jesus is with you, if you want Jesus with you, all you need is follow his rules not rules of Moses or in old bible bcoz Jesus is already revised it. Ex. You donnot kill, Jesus ruled it you donnot angry bcoz the rootcause why people kill bcoz of angry so Jesus rules is preventive.
vourvon
I'm not aware if Marcos hass used medium or not. What I know (as told me by one of his men) He used the Old Japanese who have knowledge of the hidden treasure, he also employs the help of one Filipino archeologist. Maybe he used some but I didn't know any medium that work for Marcos.
I believed in different entities of the spirits and the different entities of the spirits can form and copy the image of our love ones or our friends. God word is strong evidence that no human spirits stay in the earth.
angel_09,
you're wrong about that sir,its clearly vourvon attacks our catholic faith...
ah, you're a jehovah's witness?..why you're bible translate most words from hebrews to english but did'nt translate jehovah-thats not english?is it something to do with misconception?pls check also the background sir,we had a strong evidence that it has related to masonry
Goldi
To quote you 'they do lightning incensus if i'm not mistaken the name of a red candle like a stick b4 operating the site. '
And what do you call in lighting incense candle before digging? That is a way of offering and a complete turn around on what you said you dont believe doing so. You do your way we do ours. Period.
Bro Jack is right, Thunter44 and DB sirs, continue to protect our catholic faith and the church from attack of this kind.
Thats it..;D Paranormal Definition-Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific exploration but you are right, either Biblical Discussions or on the Rant and Rave area. Xinh Loi Ong, Vietnamese and the English translation is, Sorry Mr. I just got carried away.
Back on the topic now guys please.....
if you want to discuss religion, open a topic in the rant n rave area
as this could go on forever
Thanks
janner
gold_digger,
janner,
sir, some christian religion have the connection of masonry.it was during Albert mudpike's time.but i don't want to discuss it further.
Raqz, there's a story, this is a ribald story about white lady.(I don't know if it is true) ;D ;D ;D
There was this man who is so afraid in these unseen entities. He always see a white lady and really afraid of her. And most of the times, he gets lost when going back home because of that white lady. So an old man (hermit) adviced him that whenever it happens to him again take off his clothes and wear it in reverse. So the next time when this white lady showed up again to him, he immediately took off his clothes to wear it reversely, and when their eyes met, he saw her looking at him with wide eyes, and she started to run and disappear. He wondered what happened, and from that time, he gets confidence to himself. whenever he feels someone is watching him, he immediately taking his clothes off and everything goes back to normal... ;D ;D ;D ;D
What do you think the reason why the white lady becames afraid to him? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Janner, some correction, I didn't post in this thread.Since it did not belong in the Topic Oldest Trees in the Philippines, I then Moved it to this Topic, specially made for Angel_09.
Raqz quote came from "oldest tree..." posting.
Just for info. Thanks. :)
Raqz,
Thanks for taking the time to quote his post before making a reply. Angel_09 was able to delete his post but cannot delete yours.
That was made to be a Joke but of bad taste. Just trying to get back at me since the Paranormal is my Topic. Give the guy some credit for trying and every time he ends up putting his foot in his mouth, getting to be a habit for him.
TW, the guy keeps bitching about a post not being on the right thread, so, I accommodated him and moved his RIBALD story to where it belongs, Jokes of Angel_09. Not deleted, just moved. RIBALD definition, Characterized by VULGAR or LEWD humor and addressed to a female member here. You can always move it back to a thread that it did not belong, your call.Raqz,
Thanks for taking the time to quote his post before making a reply. Angel_09 was able to delete his post but cannot delete yours.
That was made to be a Joke but of bad taste. Just trying to get back at me since the Paranormal is my Topic. Give the guy some credit for trying and every time he ends up putting his foot in his mouth, getting to be a habit for him.
AHA!
So you transfered my RIBALD story in this thread so you can JUSTIFY your unfounded bashing to me....How sweet of you mr. th-44.
Your motive is very obvious. Then why dont you transfer the posting of Boboi which deals also with enchanted being (paranormal)?
You are destroying your credibility and using your "POWER" as moderator TO ENTERTAIN your bias agenda.
Why? Is it because your statement above bounce back to you 1001%?
Give this forum a break th-44, everybody needs constructive information about treasure, not like this....:)
By the way, what is lewd and vulgar with that story? Isn't it true in Phil folklore that if you can't go home because of paranormal, you need to reverse your clothes?;D RIBALD, your words not mine.
Yes I used the word RIBALD, but it doesn't means it is really a lewd or vulgar story.
IT IS ONLY ON THE MIND AND INTERPRETATION OF THE ONE WHO READS IT...
So you interpreted it lewdly eh? tell me.....
What if the man wears an amulet and the white lady sees it when he reverse his clothes that is why she runs? Nobody knows..... then why conclude it is lewd?
And I didn't say HE REMOVED HIS PANTS..
Where?;)Jump on the lake and hope it is not polluted by Quicksilver. :D
Where?;)Jump on the lake and hope it is not polluted by Quicksilver. :D
You are still on the wrong thread. Should I tell you where to go or can you navigate on your own? ::)Where?;)Jump on the lake and hope it is not polluted by Quicksilver. :D
Wow! Thanks for your very intelligent advice.... Are you advicing that as a moderator or a member? ;)
Anyway, let us talk about t hunting. How was your latest project? Does your OKM working fine now?
Some of my friends wanted to have their own and I told them to wait till our great Th-44 moderator gives his final comments about his OKM. So what shall I tell them, mate?
No ill will th-44, but I am not in the wrong thread...I am in the correct thread.NO ILL WILL TO Th-44, hahaha, who believes you, I don't! That is what Back Stabbers say to their victims and the unwary victims gets stabbed in the back. I believe you have been exposed to Mercury when you try to acquire the Mercury from a Thermometer as one of the symptoms is showing, lose of memory or is it lack of comprehension. Go back and read it again. OKM Rover C can penetrate to a depth of 60 feet, on favorable conditions. Now, did I say I dug down to 60 feet? You can go back and QUOTE me on that posting and I'm sure you know how, IF YOU CAN FIND IT. ;D Maybe I have been exposed to Mercury Vapors that I cannot remember but QUOTE me on that so I can remember, if you cannot, it will show who has been exposed to Quicksilver.
Have you forgotten about your project using your OKM? You detected at 60 ft. (if I'm not wrong) and when you reached that depth, you found nothing...and your friend told you that it was moved by the guardian spirit? Still remember it? Then he made them to moved out of the area, but your friend "diwata" told you that they should not be shooed away..Remember that? And to make sure your OKM is not damage you send it back to where you bought it..... Remember?
My friendly mate, it seems your'e losing your memory...be careful...
Guy's i know you are good guy's here.. I think it's my fault to quote and transfer here in this Topic.. the reason I transfer the Quote because what if An_09 answer the quote about that the white lady... :o what if the discussion is long.. it will not fit the Topic... >:( what if guy's lets talk about Paranormal.. maybe someday i will know what will I Do and not to be afraid of unseen entities if I encountered that unseen entities.. ;D peace guy'sRaqz, Street talk nowadays is different. When a Young Kid tells you "You're Bad !!!, what he means is"You're Extremely Good" and they say that to the Good Players in Basketball, Football or Rappers. As far as quoting his post here in Paranormal Experience, was not intended to be, an Honest mistake on your part and followed by Janner thinking that it was deleted and caused a domino effect. Either way, it is still in the Wrong Thread.
Raqz ;)
Persistent cuss you are. Read your post and can you see any indication that implies or even insinuate about the Paranormal? Nada, and then you turn around and made it so with your next post, and you LIED too that I dug to 60 FEET. You have a bad memory lose, see a neurologist.Where?;)Jump on the lake and hope it is not polluted by Quicksilver. :D
Wow! Thanks for your very intelligent advice.... Are you advicing that as a moderator or a member? ;)
Anyway, let us talk about t hunting. How was your latest project? Does your OKM working fine now?
Some of my friends wanted to have their own and I told them to wait till our great Th-44 moderator gives his final comments about his OKM. So what shall I tell them, mate?
Guy's i know you are good guy's here.. I think it's my fault to quote and transfer here in this Topic.. the reason I transfer the Quote because what if An_09 answer the quote about that the white lady... :o what if the discussion is long.. it will not fit the Topic... >:( what if guy's lets talk about Paranormal.. maybe someday i will know what will I Do and not to be afraid of unseen entities if I encountered that unseen entities.. ;D peace guy'sRaqz, Street talk nowadays is different. When a Young Kid tells you "You're Bad !!!, what he means is"You're Extremely Good" and the say that to the Good Players in Basketball, Football or Rappers. As far as quoting his post here in Paranormal Experience, was not intended to be, an Honest mistake and followed by Janner thinking that it was deleted and caused a domino effect. Either way, it is still in the Wrong Thread.
Raqz ;)
;D You do not believe on the Unseen anyway, so why are you asking about the Diwata, for malicious reasons I am sure.Guy's i know you are good guy's here.. I think it's my fault to quote and transfer here in this Topic.. the reason I transfer the Quote because what if An_09 answer the quote about that the white lady... :o what if the discussion is long.. it will not fit the Topic... >:( what if guy's lets talk about Paranormal.. maybe someday i will know what will I Do and not to be afraid of unseen entities if I encountered that unseen entities.. ;D peace guy'sRaqz, Street talk nowadays is different. When a Young Kid tells you "You're Bad !!!, what he means is"You're Extremely Good" and the say that to the Good Players in Basketball, Football or Rappers. As far as quoting his post here in Paranormal Experience, was not intended to be, an Honest mistake and followed by Janner thinking that it was deleted and caused a domino effect. Either way, it is still in the Wrong Thread.
Raqz ;)
That is right Raqz, I agree with t-44 that it is an honest mistake. He didn't meant to bash me when he says I did erase my posting, and also he didn't mean to say that I'm just trying to get back at him since the Paranormal is his Topic. He also didn't meant to say that I ends up putting my foot in my mouth, because it is supposed to be him doing it most of the time.... :D
Anyway, let's go back to paranormal treasure topic. What was the latest news from "Diwata"?
BTW, I didn't lied about the depth. I am not only sure. What was the depth again? when the guardian spirits moved the object? ;)
Play with fire, and you get burned.
You touch others belief and pay the consequence.
tony is right.
time for peace and reconciliation..
Huh tsk...tsk...tsk...
Now then, lets all get back to the topics on each thread and also the main topic of Th hunting....And I'm right behind you to get rid of the trash you missed. Lets get this place cleaned up.
Long winded arguments will now be deleted by me "The Janitor".
You have been Advised !!