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YAMASHITA'S / WW2 TREASURE => Treasure Marks, Signs and Symbols of the Yamashita Treasure => Topic started by: francisco on June 12, 2009, 02:05:44 PM

Title: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on June 12, 2009, 02:05:44 PM
             is there any standard mark and symbols used by the Japanese soldiers in hiding their treasures? from Indonesia,Sabah, Mindanao,Vizayas and Luzon. since we are hearing from other hunters regarding some of their recoveries and have different signs and symbol with different interpretations. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamacrapa treasure"
Post by: admin on June 12, 2009, 05:56:05 PM
Francisco I just put up five THAPI files with 49 pages of TREASURE MARKINGS, SIGNS, CODES & SYMBOLS. You can download the files from the 'Philippines' page.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamacrapa treasure"
Post by: MasKara on June 13, 2009, 07:56:06 AM
Francisco I just put up five THAPI files with 49 pages of TREASURE MARKINGS, SIGNS, CODES & SYMBOLS. You can download the files from the 'Philippines' page.

TW


TW, can you be specific of the location of this files. Can't find it in "Philippines" pages
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on June 13, 2009, 09:42:38 AM
MasKara,

Its the page link name TREASURE IN PHILIPPINES and also there's a link on the word PHILIPPINES on the main welcome page.

http://www.tseatc.com/Philippines.html
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on June 13, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
Look under the OLD NEWS ARTICLES listed there on the PHILIPPINES page..

NEW! - If you are in need of the THAPI TREASURE HUNTING MARKINGS, SIGNS, CODES &
SYMBOLS then you can download them all in PDF format from the five complete set of files below;

Pages 1-10 / Pages 11-20 / Pages 21-30 / Pages 31-40 / Pages 41-49
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on June 13, 2009, 09:47:24 AM
Just click on the INFO & RESOURCES tab to pull down the TREASURE IN PHILIPPINES tab.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on June 13, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Thanks TW found the link of "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on June 13, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
Yes, i was able to download and even save it for future references, at least its free. thanks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on June 15, 2009, 07:23:12 AM
Francisco are you the same guy named Francisco at "The Great Hunters / Ilocano Group TH" please let me know I've been following that forum for sometime already but there is no way "Personal Message" you guys out there. Please let me know I am interested talk (Ilocano) with your group. Stay safe kabagis.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on June 15, 2009, 10:25:51 AM
yes, i am the one. i'm new there and also here. just having fun in the world of treasure hunting thru the net, since in real world of  discovering the yamashita treasure its difficult and it will take years and years if you are lucky to reap the fruit of your labor just as the song goes....wasted years and wasted nights......                                                                                                       I think, the kailians or kababayans there don't need pm since they know each and everyone and they have nothing to hide and they are ready to help by all means with their strenght and with their toys .....regarding expensess? its kkb or kkg (kanya kanyang gastos) that's why they're called the The Great Hunters.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on June 25, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
TW,

Your site is very informative; definitely it will help a lot of newbie in T. Hing and also gold buyers; by exposing the scamming methods that plague the treasure hunting world.
Anyone who solicit fund, or ask money without any tangible item must be dealt cautiously.
More power...

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on June 27, 2009, 06:31:43 AM
TW,

Your site is very informative; definitely it will help a lot of newbie in T. Hing and also gold buyers; by exposing the scamming methods that plague the treasure hunting world.
Anyone who solicit fund, or ask money without any tangible item must be dealt cautiously.
More power...

Angel_09

Yes, you're exactly right. Well its also personal for me because I was also a victim to them a few years back. I'll do anything I can to help put those crooks out of business. They giving Philippines a bad name with all of that.

If you guys have anymore 'crook' stories please send to me so can post on the site. Thanks!
Cheers,
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on June 28, 2009, 12:52:38 AM
Hello guys,
 Nice to have this site! it looks like more comfortable here? I hope you will accept my entry....Thanks and regards to all....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on June 28, 2009, 08:38:16 AM
TW,
Marks and symbols are indeed very helpful in locating hidden objects; and considered as one of the most important "tool" by most treasure hunters. While it is true that it is one of the requirements for a succesful treasure retrieval, it is also true that these "markers" are used by some unscrupulous person to entice unsuspecting treasure hunters. Basing the markers and symbols circulating in treasure world, these "artist" can make curvings on stones to assimilate true treasure markers. Though these people are not involve in selling fake gold bars, they also fall in the category of con artist, thus ripping money from other by deceitful means.
It is also my opinion, that these markers are exstremely helpful 40 years ago, but at present times (except for untouched and virgin sites), these markers became unusable, due to the fact that untrained treasure hunters had moved, removed, and damaged these markers from its original position and locations. Let us also consider some areas where markers seems undisturbed, but the hidden object has been recovered years back by knowledgable hunters, lucky hunters, by relatives of Japanese soldiers, and the least are the soldiers themselves who returned back to Phil. after the war.
These are some of the loopholes that faces by the newbie hunters; plus the rich imaginations that give images to any natural objects found in the vicinity of suspected treasure sites.
I wrote this subject not to weaken the enthusiasm, but to serve as a precautionary measures  before a hunter spill his hard earned money in treasure hunting.

Angel_09.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on June 29, 2009, 12:31:14 PM
Here's a 'crook' story.
          There's a retired couple from Manila (Phil.) who bought a house and lot in our place. Its been advertised for a long time that its for sale but the local neighborhood can't afford. Inside the lot is an old grown pine tree.
           The couple do a lot of renovation and landscaping till comes a time when the wife noticed an old man with a boy staring at the old pine tree. Since they almost see them outside their fence everyday looking at the said tree, the couple asked what they are up to. The old man through the boy as his interpreter since he don't know of any language other than his native dialect, told the couple that his 'apong' (grand father) always dreaming of a gold buried inside their lot, and to recover it they have to butcher a native chicken, two eggs and a candle and with prayer of 'apong' they will know where the gold is. The couple agreed, nothing to lose anyway they say. The boy said he will bring his elder brother to do the digging.
           So, the following day before sunrise and after all the ceremonies has been done, the elder brother dig the east side of the tree as per instruction of 'apong'. After a waist deep of digging, there you are, a two gold bars with Japanese writing on it. The couple said, since it's two 'it would be one for you one for me' and they all agreed. But wait, the three said they don't know of any body where they can sell their share and one thing more its dangerous for them carrying gold around the city looking for a buyer. So, they ask the couple if they can just buy their share so they can go back to the Province that same day. Looking promdi(from the province) and innocent the couple think that they can bargain with them at a low price. They offered them ninety thousand pesos they reasoned out that it's the only money they got in the bank. So, they have their healthy breakfast while waiting for the bank to open. In short they got their money and the couple have their gold.
           And from the stories of the treasure hunters, scammer and everything, the three were the ones who buried the 'FAKE' gold bars when they know that the place is for sale.
           No wonder I said, after a few months the house is for sale again.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on June 29, 2009, 04:41:40 PM
Francisco,

Thanks for that story. That's really amazing what these cheats to do to get some money out of innocent people. This is really, really amazing! Till now I never ever heard of a story like this involving cheaters.

OK, I'll put that on the GOLD CHEAT page!

Cheers,
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on June 30, 2009, 06:50:27 AM
Im not saying that im expert that much in deciphering symbols but based from my experiences and encounters, some markers were not exactly as what it means.. it is very confusing indeed and it may lead you away from your target. few months ago when i went for an expedition in the philippines, I am very successful in trailing back the surface markers, it just takes me half an hour to find the root. it did lead me on a natural cave but when i entered around 12 meters inside, a light marker just appeared infront of me!(im not alone as im with my brother and a friend) sitting on a huge rock boulder, if where this light came from i dont have any idea and the bad thing is,,,i stucked to that point as i dont know if what is the meaning of this light!!..then im lost..until now, im still researching if what is these light means and no exact answer were found. since im not in the country, i let my father visit the place and see if this light appears again at exactly 10:45 a.m. and still he found it the same..if what is this disk size bright light means i dont have idea yet. one thing i know,,im not stopping that site....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on June 30, 2009, 07:38:06 AM
Hi TW,
The story of markers used by some cheaters, happened in one of the town in Zambales, since there are some area here where kilometers of tunnels can be found, and markers of different size and figures can be located. It is also the place of the underground hospital of Japanese forces in that area. In one of the foothill in this area, "artist" are making treasure markings, as I have mentioned before, based on the circulating treasure markers used by hunters. They invite unsuspecting american, Filipino hunters to check their "marker", in which they were able to make it look like "old age". Since these people look innocent and serious, and the markers look genuine, hunters show interest in the said area. And this is where the bargaining starts, from sharing proposal as land owner, to goodwill money amounting to thousands of pesos. It was reavealed later by one of the son who makes these "treasure markers".

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on June 30, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
hello fellow TH, hello admin, hope i'm welcome here.
seems most of the filipino forumers/hunters have jumped into this site.

most of the treasure signs and markers that are discovered are intentionally destroyed by the first who discovered it to hide or conceal them from others who might discover after them. in the countryside, in the mountains, most of the people around are now aware of these treasures hidden, they just don't know how to read signs or markers. however, when they find one, their first reaction is to cover it or hide it if they could, else they destroy it so others won't be able to see it and it will remain only within their knowledge. when you get to know one of them, they may open up to you when they get to trust you.

the difference from a scammer/syndicate is that when you meet them for the first time and learn that you are involved or interested in treasures, they will start leading you to this topic until they get your interest on them. so be careful and be observant because even those who stay in the countryside whom you might think are innocent are already trained or expert on this.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 01, 2009, 01:34:44 AM
Welcome mga kababayan..hopefully dito na tayo mag post...I hope our Admin Tony Wells will not edit/accuse those posting in this forum as Scammers....CapM, si tony wells galing na sa Cagayan yan,...kaibigan sya ni Budz.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 01, 2009, 06:14:20 AM
Im not saying that im expert that much in deciphering symbols but based from my experiences and encounters, some markers were not exactly as what it means.. it is very confusing indeed and it may lead you away from your target. few months ago when i went for an expedition in the philippines, I am very successful in trailing back the surface markers, it just takes me half an hour to find the root. it did lead me on a natural cave but when i entered around 12 meters inside, a light marker just appeared infront of me!(im not alone as im with my brother and a friend) sitting on a huge rock boulder, if where this light came from i dont have any idea and the bad thing is,,,i stucked to that point as i dont know if what is the meaning of this light!!..then im lost..until now, im still researching if what is these light means and no exact answer were found. since im not in the country, i let my father visit the place and see if this light appears again at exactly 10:45 a.m. and still he found it the same..if what is this disk size bright light means i dont have idea yet. one thing i know,,im not stopping that site....

Gener, thanks for that information also. That's amazing...... but I can easily believe that the 'cheaters' and 'scammers' are also out creating false treasure signs and symbols just to lure in unsuspecting groups to pump in money for nothing and wasting money for nothing. Well I can't put that story on the GOLD CHEATS page but at least all the people can see it here so they can be aware of this kind of thing going on also.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on July 01, 2009, 08:20:30 PM
have you heard of this story before?

a group of people probably treasure hunters or more of a syndicate or scammer... have a real treasure site with a real huge marker that the japanese and other foreigner groups were looking for. what this group of people did was to relocate the marker, so heavy that they even used a truck with boom to carry this marker and relocate it to another town. then they called one of these foreign groups looking for this marker telling them that they found what they were looking for. they exchanged the information with a good price of course. the marker was real, unfortunately... it was not in the right place anymore as it was moved very far from its original place.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 02, 2009, 06:47:24 AM
have you heard of this story before?

a group of people probably treasure hunters or more of a syndicate or scammer... have a real treasure site with a real huge marker that the japanese and other foreigner groups were looking for. what this group of people did was to relocate the marker, so heavy that they even used a truck with boom to carry this marker and relocate it to another town. then they called one of these foreign groups looking for this marker telling them that they found what they were looking for. they exchanged the information with a good price of course. the marker was real, unfortunately... it was not in the right place anymore as it was moved very far from its original place.

No. I never heard of that one. That's an amazing story also but since its not directly related to the purchase of fake gold I won't list it on the Gold Scam pages.
Thanks!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 05, 2009, 07:48:25 AM
capmiwa,
 That is a huge fraud indeed! never heard of it before! they have two purpose anyway! to rob someones money then to proceed on treasure hunting on their own,,I wonder if this group will succeed anyway! Im sure they will not trust each other then...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on July 05, 2009, 08:07:18 AM
POLICE Friday arrested six persons in an entrapment operation as they allegedly were about to sell two fake gold bars to a foreigner in Cagayan de Oro. ...

www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de.../6-caught-selling-fake-gold-bars
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on July 05, 2009, 08:13:26 AM
Suspects in fake gold bars freed
 
THE Cagayan de Oro City Prosecutor's Office (CPO) has ordered the release six persons accused of selling fake gold bars the other week.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/suspects-fake-gold-bars-freed
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 05, 2009, 08:27:45 AM
Suspects in fake gold bars freed
 
THE Cagayan de Oro City Prosecutor's Office (CPO) has ordered the release six persons accused of selling fake gold bars the other week.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/suspects-fake-gold-bars-freed

Takara,
Thanks for that. I'll put that on the latest news in SEA.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on July 06, 2009, 10:39:40 AM
          there are plenty of them, even here in our small city in the north and the irony of it, is that they were being protected by 'somebody', a member of the syndicate were catch somewhere in Cebu, one phone call and their attorney based here in the north quickly go and save the swindlers.
           it just show that the fake gold yamashita treasure is a big business which affect the legit treasure hunters.....its good we have this forum to expose them....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 06, 2009, 06:34:06 PM
          there are plenty of them, even here in our small city in the north and the irony of it, is that they were being protected by 'somebody', a member of the syndicate were catch somewhere in Cebu, one phone call and their attorney based here in the north quickly go and save the swindlers.
           it just show that the fake gold yamashita treasure is a big business which affect the legit treasure hunters.....its good we have this forum to expose them....

Yes, that's exactly right. Selling fake yamashits's gold is a really big business in the Philippines for many years now. Its giving the Philippines a bad name so we need to try and stop it right here right now anyway we can! The more information we can give to expose these cheats the better for us all.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 07, 2009, 01:13:25 AM
They were freed because no formal complaints from the victim and simply left to thailand! Then this will make this "SWINDLERS" more arrogant and perhaps flourish with their lucrative business...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 07, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
They were freed because no formal complaints from the victim and simply left to thailand! Then this will make this "SWINDLERS" more arrogant and perhaps flourish with their lucrative business...

The MORE information we can put here about those SWINDLERS - the MORE people will become aware of their MODES OF OPERANDI so in that case people will get SMART and NOT deal with the SWINDLERS anymore. Its all the potential FUTURE VICTIMS who we are trying to protect here. Your statement makes no sense how you think their business will flourish and become more lucrative.

ME for one, IF I had seen all this info here about the CHEATS before I dealt with them - I definitely wound NOT have entertained them at all and WOULD NOT have become one of their stupid victims in the end.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 07, 2009, 07:34:02 AM
You are right on that TW,,Good that you are aware but how about those people who are newbies? It is very clear that this "SWINDLERS" almost perfected their "ART OF EXTORTION",,,I hope that someone should just shoot them on the head and thats it! Its a disgrace to us,,Cheating people because they are lazy and wants to earn at someones account bigtime...We should accumulate all the names and photos of these greedy people and post here to warn all the people of the world...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on July 07, 2009, 09:11:30 AM
                 This is my experienced in dealing with the treasure hunters of old, in our place. Those right after WW II who chased the loot of the Japanese soldiers, there are those who dig ten ft. or more who found nothing. so what they do, they throw empty mortar shells and back filled it and so with stone marker they found at the surface. that was late 50's and the 60's. some of them are successful and retired,  some are not. 
                 After EDSA Revolution we the younger ones who became crazy about treasures ask the retired ones to point where are the suspected areas some of them point to us their diggings. We are inspired since there are markers on our digging, till we reach the empty shells and not knowing and not telling us that they're the ones who put the empty mortar shell,  they laugh at us so we return the empty shells and add more pipe and covered it.
                 That was 1987, nowadays 20 years have pass some are now using this technique to swindle or trick the unsuspecting victim to finance or whatever just to make money.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 08, 2009, 11:45:11 AM
Manong Francisco and other younger or second generation Yhunters, I am not a full time YTH and not also an expert i was exposed to TH during the tail end of the 70's like 78-79 I was 15yrs old then. I tag along sometimes to my bro. in-law heard a lot of stories of their experiences from different places of diggings. until i got involved my self financing some his project if it is short travel from and around Manila and convenient for me to visit the sites. anyway after 1986 slowly YTH became free for all and a lot of false positive and fairy tales surface that's the time I got out of TH. but fom time to time bcoz a friend of mine here in the USA ask me to be with him on his TH adventure when ever we go for vacation I can't decline just to feel the thrill and excitement again. a few years (8yrs) ago I decide to stop digging and look for recovered YT instead, but then again second generation scammers selling Au surfaced and are evolving to know the intricacies of gold trading. I hope before they come to the point they will be organized and sophisticated the chance of the real thing will be a long way to accomplice. My only hope are you guys. we'll just trust one another and most of you here know me already. If our program can't convinced you (the family relocation program) we have a second and final plan but still being work out.
We are putting up concerted effort and soon to embark a Humanitarian projects to convinced holders of undocumented Au to cooperate. I will let you know the mechanics and who will benefit from this efforts. Again my group are thinking that this year is critical after this year it will be difficult to buy.
Time is running out we all know it is a matter of time the US economy will collapse under this new administration and there is a collaboration of the UN to form a Central Government which all nations specially the third world will be subservient to the powerful they are already conditioning our mind to GLOBAL WARMING and who are behind these operations they are BIG INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS. to sell their products and control how a country must operate and depend on them in the guise of solving ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS.

Why is China and India do not want to participate in the UN Global Warming program? they know already the players and consequences.
America during the past administration did not participate to the KYOTO PROTOCALL becoz they also know the consequences. 
This current administration with a mindset of a SONothingT AND FASCIST form of government to cater to the WORLD ORDER of the UN program we are now seeing the outcome.

Why is China in a hurry to stack gold and are involve in a lot of gold mining in Africa and oil explorations all over the world? It is a matter time guys The big and powerful nations can't do anything that's why they are using the UN.
China, Russia and other Latin America soNothingt countries are now trading with their own currencies not Dollar they use Currency swapping, America can't do anything US currency is backed up by FEDERAL NOTES, BONDS. and this bonds are falling in values everyday as we speak. Do not be surprised when the US dollar will be replaced as the international currency to CHINESE currency.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on July 09, 2009, 04:08:54 AM
Maskara,
           With your comment regarding the World scenario being taken over by Big International Corporations, as an ordinary human being where do we fit with this kind of scenario? Since there's nothing we can do to alter what's happening in our planet with Global Warming getting worse (is it?) maybe we can just sit and wait what befell us.
           But if only Gboy can do something with what he is claiming to be, I think it can make a difference to the lives of some if not the whole country.
            So for those who like me, that haven't seen yet the rays of the sun.....let's not give up. I hope someday we can have our share with the loot.
             Could you please elaborate what you mean by 'the family relocation program'.
                                                                                                                                                            francisco
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on July 09, 2009, 05:26:32 AM
did you know that the federal reserve bank or FED is controlling the finances and now the fate of USA? Fed is not a government institution but a private institution owned by the wealthy international bankers whose members (majority) belong to the illuminati?
with its mission to control the world, its economy, and on the way to creating the new world order. the world will be in their hands!
---im off topic, sorry admin. i just read from a similar topic above.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 09, 2009, 08:20:50 AM
Manong Fransisco,
Big Corporations with the help of the G8 countries and the UN is using Global Warming to commit their agenda. The scenario we fit in specially the third world countries is to bow to them whatever it takes. Leaders of our country will be subservient to them so then we will have no freedom and democracy in governing what is right for our country our natural resources and every wealth that's left for us will be controlled by this countries and entities and not long from now a central government called the World Order being advocated by Clinton and Gore and the UN will govern and fulfill their control of a world economy. Also why is the UN advocating for fire arms confiscation of civilians? They are preparing to  control civil unrest that we ordinary people wont be able to defend our freedom.
Remember a private militia like the NRA here in the USA have the right to bear arms as stated on our second amendment which the left of the government (democrats) are trying all kinds of laws to prevent civilian owning fire arms.
Look at China, Russia and other soNothingt countries their people can't revolt because they are powerless, Look what's happening now in IRAN people are being oppressed. At least the Philippines they allow us to keep our firearms and can form a civilian militia. not private goons that's totaly different.

As for Global Warming there are pros and cons on this belief, it's up to your opinion where you side but for me Global Warming is natures cycle, nature will take care of its self there are times when the sun is overactive that causes the earth to warm,  and there are times that the sun slows down and cools the earth. Likewise axis of the earth is tilting in a very very miniscule degree and this causes the north and south pole to melt and add the glaciers. Why suddenly Global Warming is being shove on our throat? if you are familiar with Cap and Trade this is where big Corporations make their money. They put a cap on certain products that produces carbon and then buy others carbon to cover their own carbon foot prints then they sell their products (which only them will produce) to every country as compliance to the Global Warming prevention. It is all survival of the strongest.
The other day G8 countries concluded their meeting on Global Warming (the Kyoto protocol), China and India the biggest carbon contributor did not participate 14 other countries did not commit what does it tells us? Other countries are aware of the hidden agenda.

I believe though in environmental degradation due to pollution and the disappearing forest reserved but this do not mean that the earth will warm up rapidly. Reforest and plant a lot of trees and you will feel a cool breeze, Trees helps absorb carbon dioxide the more trees we in this planet nature will clean itself.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 09, 2009, 09:19:53 AM
Maskara,
           With your comment regarding the World scenario being taken over by Big International Corporations, as an ordinary human being where do we fit with this kind of scenario? Since there's nothing we can do to alter what's happening in our planet with Global Warming getting worse (is it?) maybe we can just sit and wait what befell us.
           But if only Gboy can do something with what he is claiming to be, I think it can make a difference to the lives of some if not the whole country.
            So for those who like me, that haven't seen yet the rays of the sun.....let's not give up. I hope someday we can have our share with the loot.
             Could you please elaborate what you mean by 'the family relocation program'.
                                                                                                                                                            francisco
Mainong Francisco,
FAMILY PROGRAM:
Very Important Capability = Legal, valid US Embassy issued "Multiple Entry" Visas for Owner & family and "Mandate" and family for security reasons, IF they are interested.
We are capable of bullion transaction. If we completed or exceeded more than 1 metric ton sale we have relocation program.   
OPTIONAL:  Seller interested in Family Temporary or Permanent “Foreign Relocation Plan”: LEGAL US/UK Canada Residence Visa? = Available after transactions exceed 1 MT+ (i.e. 80 bars@12.5kg)?

Transaction Venue = Whatever best for everyone. RP, HK, Singapore.

Reason is pending BIG money here VERY dangerous if you don't have CONVINCING explanation of SOURCE of new found wealth. That will put children and adults at risk, You have to consider also AMLA. We will establish a "cover story" of "new OFW job" in US. Much more on this and other important items at TT Meeting,       
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 09, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
hmmm...academic discussion..well what about Anti-Money Moundering..ehehehehe Lundering o loandering...what ever...Where will i Desposit my P23M if i have sold the golds that I have recovered...kunyari lng..for sure these banks will allow me to deposit the said amount but after an hour they will confiscate/freeze it and say hey this is not allowed by laws coz according to this AML law iy you deposit 500K they will investigate it, what if I have GOLDS and sold it to private businessman and where will i deposit..hmmmmm Internation Corporation stealing our money coz what????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 09, 2009, 07:20:18 PM
Boylara, There is such thing called International Free Trade Zone, You transact, buy, sell, deposit and no question ask. There are also offshore banks, you deposit any amount you remain anonymous name it to a foundation, trustee or just numerical identity then you are safe, another is you can buy your own bank in the Caribbean Islands with a minimum amount of  2million dollars but you have to take the risk bcoz you must have a local partner to manage your account. 
Or if still you do not trust any of the above keep your money yourself just be careful not to trust everyone even your dog he might chew them all.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on July 10, 2009, 01:43:02 AM
So there you are fellowhunters with the explanation of Maskara we don't have to worry where we will dispose off our treasure recovery if ever, don't just leave those yamashita gold inside the cave....waiting for a honest President before you haul them.

Do you mean then sir Maskara that to be qualified with your Family Program, you need to produce 1 metric ton?
I ask this because with many treasure hunters here in our country, who knows someday someone will be like our neighbor in modern site the late Mr.R.Roxas can stumble another 'golden buddha'.  At least we know that you are there ever willing to help if ever.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 10, 2009, 08:52:37 AM
1 MT will cover all your expenses, processing and gov't. to gov't negotiation to issue you visa in a country you want to go as mentioned. No embassy will just give you visa in an instant and no country will process your legal stay without any diplomatic request or UN intervention.
BTW the expenses is not deducted from your share it will be courtesy from the host country and us in exchange for humanitarian and the business you will bring to them like if you stay there as long as you like the exchange will be on the taxes that you normally pay as every citizen of that country do. So if you bring in USD 1 million dollar and invest it in anything like buying stocks or putting up a store a construction company etc. then the profit or dividend out of the USD1 million is tax.
Remember if you deposit USD 1 million the IRS or the gov't. will not tax your 1Mil but they will calculate it only from the profit of 1mil and any dividends coming from your investments. Taxes are imposed on reported profits derived from your investments. Not the total amount of money you are keeping in your pocket.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 11, 2009, 12:48:31 AM
Freeze your account and investigate where is the source of money?? I know someone who escaped that scenario by simply opening a company abroad and put himself as the owner then from that he transfered his wealth using this legitimate company to his accounts in the philippines!!! very clean and no investigation indeed! Why cant you do that too? If you have that,,I know someone who can help you.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 11, 2009, 08:14:43 AM
Bro. Gener that's another scenario to consider but it is easy said than done. I would agree if that person or company are expert in these kind of business it depends from country to country. Like Canada they can issue Traders visa also visa can be bought from other countries for investment what I mean is you do not need any other help as long as you can prove (POF) that you are capable or Ready Willing and Able (RWA) to invest but you must prove first that your money came from legal sources not from illegal activities.

Our scenario here is your new found wealth that came from YAM Treasure, from pauper or ordinary citizen living by hand to mouth existence no high paying job then the next day suddenly you are in a situation that you have millions or possibly billions of pesos. What we are trying to solve here is how can you hide it from the Philippine Gov't., the bad people and the safety and your family. You can't just walk in a bank and let them count millions of pesos to deposit coz this will surely turn heads and alarm the powerful. You can't keep it in your house either and still stay in a shack. Either way you can't ran and hide for long.

The only viable solution is a Buyer that will take care of your welfare and safety not only you but including your Family, Friends, relatives and other people involve in the transaction that also became instantly rich. A buyer that will put you in a safe place and will not waste your wealth. A buyer that will provide all the necessary stuff for you to survive anyplace you prefer. Not a buyer that will leave you in a state of panic not knowing how to manage your new found wealth.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on July 12, 2009, 01:10:14 AM
We know a family of a treasure hunter in the City who is lucky enough, he sent his son abroad so it would not be obvious and set up some small business around the City, but we are talking about small items found. But if you found big volumes, follow the course of Maskara.....there are many imaginative ways to conceal and dispose......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 12, 2009, 04:06:12 AM
Maskara,
 The person i know offcourse did not have that huge volume and the fact that he is not alone! It takes them years shifting in many countries before everything is settled. this group now is scattered in unknown countries and some of them were already broke cause of mismanagement of their wealth. Outside the philippines most likely those countries with very rich people, they dont mind if where you got your gold as long as they can make a good deal out of it! Look for a person who is willing to invest his extra cash in gold! negotiation with that buyer how to disguise the cash distribution can be personally arrange by him in many ways, settling businesses is one best option.. It works!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 12, 2009, 07:04:51 AM
Bro Gener it's true some people got broke not for long after being rich, they easily forget where they come from that they get drunk on their own wealth and spend their money like there is no end at faucet. Hope there are still other buyers or people willing to use their services to go extra mile and look after the welfare of their clients and consider them as business partners.

These yam treasure are God given to the Philippines for humanitarian and moral purposes. Even some of the Japanese who buried them know and admitted the bad consequences if they where use for personal greed. They looted these treasure and stole it from other people and country but they were not successful in bringing it in their country. It was God's destiny to stay where they are now and if ever it would be found it should be shared for good intention. Imagine if the Japanese during that time were able to haul it in their country, will they use it to pillage and conquer other countries, create more war and extend their power? or use it to redeem their war criminal behavior and help other nations.
God only knows and he surely did they right thing.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 13, 2009, 02:45:37 AM
Yeah that is right! the most reasons of this people is lack of basic knowledge about business and they love spending a lot of time and money with foreign beautiful ladies, all their wealth were siphoned off by this sexy gals!....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 13, 2009, 07:46:49 PM
another way...run in politics, use guns and golds for sure you will win...Hire good bodyguards, have connection with the Judiciary...here in the Philippines..Pera lng yan... hahahahahaha
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 14, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
Politicians??? You have to buy VOTE first!! spend hundred of millions then be a politician! you need stockpiles he-he!....then be a GOON POLITICIAN har-har-har!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 14, 2009, 02:12:28 AM
get a leasr 2 bars,sell it and run for an office, mayor, governor or congressman...use that money to win in the election and all cost..then if your in the position..that's the time to get all the treasure.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 14, 2009, 02:26:46 AM
But later they will check your account as pre-requisite for any philippine politicians right? then they will skin you alive!!! then i will find you in the news--GOVERNOR BOYLARA under investigation for un-explained wealth and properties??? he-he-he!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 16, 2009, 06:12:06 PM
Funds donated by friends courtesy of Gener... hehehehehehehe...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 18, 2009, 01:38:32 AM
Good idea!!! but i have to be your vice governor  ::) they cant put me on the microscope! i lived abroad,,,ha-ha-ha!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 19, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
If you be the Vice Gov. I'll apply as your personal driver then.. ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 19, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
Campaign manager "Maskara"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 19, 2009, 09:57:02 PM
Anything goes for me Boylara I'll support you all the way my friend.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 20, 2009, 12:34:18 AM
GUYS! just allow me to be your TEA-BOY at your service ha-ha-ha!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on July 20, 2009, 01:41:56 AM
hello there mga manongs (big brothers)!

what a cool posts here, can i also be your janitor!

can i squeeze in a question.... does anybody heard about the words "TIC TAC TOE". i heard that this is one way of retrieving a burried treasure by Japanese during WWII here in PI. The idea in this kind of retrieval is that, if you found a triangle sign then you will find another sign which is a circle (just few meters from the triangle sign) and then the next that you will find is the square/rectangle sign(which is also few meters from the circle sign). This square or rectangle sign is already/maybe the treasure.
i don't know but in one site here in our place,  we found the triangle sign(embossed in a boulder) and the circle sign (etched also in another boulder), they are just 2 meters apart. Right now we are trying to prove if this kind of retrieval is valid or not, may be in a  month or two we will know it.

your ading(small bro) here
slider   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 20, 2009, 03:00:14 AM
SLIDER,
 Nice to see you here,, I know about this TIC-TAC-TOE when i was a kid! its a playgame actually but i never heard that there is a connection with treasure markers? What i know exactly that they used in markers is the "SUNGKA" its a puzzle-marker technique, once you brake it, you got the treasure....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 20, 2009, 05:54:55 PM
OXO, hehehehehehehe... bingo, slider use detector
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on July 20, 2009, 06:35:19 PM
hi everyone,

is this a treasure sign?

thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 20, 2009, 06:38:47 PM
Is what a treasure sign? It just looks like a coral rock to me.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on July 20, 2009, 07:00:26 PM
tw,

k...but what about this one. actually there are three (including the one above)forming a triangle about 50mtrs each side.

btw, how do we know our pics are still loading...the additional option in attaching pic is not friendly. im suppose to attach more pics but dnt know the progress if loading is on progress or not...

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 20, 2009, 07:12:06 PM
No significant meaning to me Takara....can't make any conclusion why a coral reef is there or a volcanic stone maybe.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 20, 2009, 11:15:39 PM
I dont see it as sign either! It depends anyway if how they were arranged....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on July 21, 2009, 06:05:57 AM
tw,

k...but what about this one. actually there are three (including the one above)forming a triangle about 50mtrs each side.

btw, how do we know our pics are still loading...the additional option in attaching pic is not friendly. im suppose to attach more pics but dnt know the progress if loading is on progress or not...

There are plenty of experts here who can't see anything but some regular looking coral rocks here. I also don't know how you thought these items were some kind of sign or symbol.

Well, I didn't write this program so I have no control over how 'friendly' it is to attach photos. But, anyway, you managed to do it so I guess you're the expert now my friend.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 21, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
testing my pics...hehehehehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on July 21, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
O...Thanks for your thoughts
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on July 22, 2009, 05:55:46 PM
signs ko
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on July 25, 2009, 02:59:58 AM
BOYLARA,
 that X-sign is significant but why it was moved?? Its not an X anyway but an arrow head! the longer line of it represent the real direction! that what i learned anyway so anyones idea too??

TURTLE?
 You cant convince me as a turtle boy? have you seen the turtle in south of bayombong? that is the turtle....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on July 25, 2009, 05:01:18 PM
BoyLara, somebody sent me about 100 photos of markers and sites I don't know who sent them. The site location is not revealed but maybe some of you can identify the location.
This markers are very similar to what you are posting here, The people involved here even have photo ops showing their Identity. If you may allow I will post some of them latter.
Title: Yam concrete bunkers composition
Post by: killjoy on July 26, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
Hi all,

Would like to ask, would you guys have an idea on what type of cement the japs used for their 'concrete vaults'? Are they the regular cement variety or a special mix? Have read narratives in other sites about these vaults. TIA
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 06, 2009, 12:09:21 AM
hello po,
(needin opinion) does anybody know if a clay(attached-don't mind the date coz our camera was out of date!) was used in burying a Ytreasure? does it have a role in buried treasure?
this "alleged site of ours is located near a creek with signs like triangle and human face. (Manong Gener knows this site)
thank you
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 06, 2009, 12:23:49 AM
continuation to my post...
mixed in the clay, we found 3 pcs. of stone. Stone 1 is the tip of stone 2. stone 3 is long triangle in shape.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 06, 2009, 01:50:32 AM
Slider,
 How far is this rock on clay you found from the face? where? east or west of the face? those pointed rocks, are they just near to each other? how deep is your tunnel?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 06, 2009, 08:31:32 PM
hello again manong Gener,
Distance of the rocks on clay to the face is around 5 meters, it is located south-west of the face. The 3 rocks are just near to each other. The first one to be unearth was the tip (stone 1), then few inches was its body (stone 2), then few inches was the third stone. Some particle of charcoal is also visible (mixed) in the clay. The entrance of our (horizontal)tunnel is about 1 meter from the embossed triangle sign and about 4 meters from the face.
the picture shows the entrance of the our tunnel, notice the hole of the rock in the left side. if you know the 2 slits of the embossed triangle sign, it direct to this hole. picture 2 shows some assorted stones we dug up in the entrance of the tunnel
we will go back to the our site (to get exact bearings) once the weather is good manong, its always been raining here for 2 weeks!
salamat po manong!
slider
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 07, 2009, 01:41:22 AM
Manong Gener,
our tunnel is around 5 meters long, we can't move further due to big rocks inside, we tried deviating it but still there are some big rocks.
we will update you (and Manong from LU)as soon as we will go to the site, maybe after a week.
Manong (from LU, by chance if you read this)
we're still on the way in breaking the big mountain that you pinpointed. we run out of ammos haha, the last 2 ammos was a failure! but at least we have cracked the mountain into some parts.
little bro
slider
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 07, 2009, 06:33:08 PM
slider, use dynamite.,.hehehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 07, 2009, 07:16:41 PM
YTHr,

Pardon for tunnel diggers/owner...Your dig hole is typical and almost the same dig hole approach of other YTHr...NO CLEAR treasure marker, your methods of diggings is based on undertemined shape of alleged rock markers. Wherein ordinary rocks are being imagined to make it appear as japs marker......after a few meters of diggings this tunnel site will become part of those...AUD...abandoned useless dig or just a digging practice, buts its usefull sometimes bcoz while you dig you get excited sometimes and a good excercise also.
The good news is...after several useless digging attempts...the digger will become wiser and fully learned their digging lesson. Its okey, every YTH passes that stage,,,ask Cap Miwa...why from digging practice he suddenly changes to open cave sites target, wais na sya eh hehehe...;D...walang personal opinion lang po sa dig site na yan. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 07, 2009, 07:35:44 PM
Gboy,

Since digging is considered a useless effor with your standard, and you keep insinuating that tunnel is always the best for finding treasure, can you give us proof to support your claim?  I'm not asking for a "testimonial proof" but a tangible methodology in retrieving any gold for any suspected tunnel w/ hidden gold.
You see, anybody or even everybody can claim based on his knowledge and information, but the accuracy of the information might not coincide to reality, or the  reality of retrieving it is not feasible to present situation....

Since this is a treasure forum, everybody expect an alternative ideas if one's presented was negated.....To make this forum more educational..and fruitful.
My two cents

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 07, 2009, 10:57:15 PM
YTHr,

Pardon for tunnel diggers/owner...Your dig hole is typical and almost the same dig hole approach of other YTHr...NO CLEAR treasure marker, your methods of diggings is based on undertemined shape of alleged rock markers. Wherein ordinary rocks are being imagined to make it appear as japs marker......after a few meters of diggings this tunnel site will become part of those...AUD...abandoned useless dig or just a digging practice, buts its usefull sometimes bcoz while you dig you get excited sometimes and a good excercise also.
The good news is...after several useless digging attempts...the digger will become wiser and fully learned their digging lesson. Its okey, every YTH passes that stage,,,ask Cap Miwa...why from digging practice he suddenly changes to open cave sites target, wais na sya eh hehehe...;D...walang personal opinion lang po sa dig site na yan. 
Pareng Gboy... sorry i'm still into digging of sites with living pointers. but we also go for exploration of open caves. this is a very exciting adventure. not at all times, are favorable for digging because of the weather. while experience is a good teacher, we can only learn if we know how to apply it in our lives.   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 08, 2009, 12:24:12 AM
Gboy,
 The site where slider is working is a sure treasure site too! significant markers around is very visible, around is fully bombarded with a lot of signs "HANDMADE"..Surely there is something there but tricky to search since "ITS NOT US WHO HIDE THOSE THINGS....But surely they will find that with more vigilant..Its a treasure HUNTING anyway and besides,,,all this people involved here are "EMPLOYEES" means they are just using their spare times on treasure hunting,(capmiwa is familiar with this people too) they are not going to lost anything except their excitement and adrenalin.....besides,,,this guys are clever and wise...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 08, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
Gener,

The site where slider is working is a sure treasure site too!
Of course its always SUREBALL site and the diggers are always clever and wise.
Try to ask ALL treasure hunters why they dig? BCOZ ITS ALWAYS BEEN SUREBALL EVER SINCE.
Try to ask thru these years, WHY digging sites is 99.99% FAILURE...AHA ...thats bcoz they have 101 ALIBIS, oks? ;D

Cap Miwa,

Pareng Gboy... sorry i'm still into digging of sites with living pointers. but we also go for exploration of open caves. this is a very exciting adventure. not at all times, are favorable for digging because of the weather. while experience is a good teacher, we can only learn if we know how to apply it in our lives.
Of course digging site with 101% sureball will never be out of your system easily....until you get tired of it and shift to open caving/tunnel treas site.

Angel_09,

Since digging is considered a useless effor with your standard, and you keep insinuating that tunnel is always the best for finding treasure, can you give us proof to support your claim?  I'm not asking for a "testimonial proof" but a tangible methodology in retrieving any gold for any suspected tunnel w/ hidden gold.....small time or low tech digging..WILL ALWAYS AND ALWAYS BE...USELESS EFFORT...PROOF? Read the post of several treasure forum...ming, great hunter, treasurenet, thhunting...etc, for several years of digging and hundreds of treas hunter ateempted small time digging...have you heard anybody small time treasure hunter so far had recover treasure there? ZERO SUCCESS RATE or maybe 1 or so...if that is the success rate among hundreds who dig..THEREFORE ITS NOT A RELIABLE EFFORT OR TREASURE HUNTING TECHNIQUE AFTER ALL, isn't it?

Tangible method to recover treasure?...Go back to basic and use your common sense...
1) USE THE DAMM... TREASURE MAP...if you have no treasure map, then forget digging !!!!....
2) USE HI-TECH GEOPHYSICAL IMAGING AND BOREHOLE DRILLL TO GET GOLD SAMPLE...if you can't afford it, then forget digging !!!
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE 2 BASIC TREASURE HUNTING TECHNIQUE...THEN FORGET DIGGING BCOZ ITS JUST A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY !!!!...99% of all treasure hunters NEVER use these kind of basic treasure hunting technique...therefore 99% failure....as simple as that...



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 08, 2009, 09:26:41 PM
Gboy you are 101% right I know some TH friends and relatives are still digging for the past 20 years and counting until now they never seen the light of gold. I too was once lured to treasure diggings but after a few years of frustrations and came to think about it why would I dig or finance a digging expedition when there are hundreds or this present day even thousands of Yam TH trying their luck so why would I chase that's under ground that needs a lot of resources and dedication, instead I opted to look for recovered Yam Treasure (if there are any) but the same thing it's frustrations after the other with all the fake Au and syndicates roaming and scamming would be buyers.

I think until nothing yet is said and done. We are all equal in this field no matter what we chose to do.

But I ask you Gboy... how many years now are you bragging of your caves reburied treasures, stock piles of gold bars ready for hauling and yet still waiting for the right time and the right person to assist your dreams.
But nevertheless you are the same as the diggers who believed in their endeavor and dedicatedly trying and hoping for the best to come eventually.

Just do your thing like you have said previously "walang pakialaman ng diskarte".
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 08, 2009, 10:11:27 PM
I know someone who " USE THE DAMM... TREASURE MAP...and forget digging !!!!....and he "Go back to basic and use his common sense..."

For the past 20 years or more, still he is no different from the treasure diggers...no gold...but take note, he HAVE SO MUCH CLEAR TREASURE MARKERS, MAPS, AND OTHER INFORMATIONS THAT WILL SUPPOSE GIVE HIM AN EDGE TO TREASURE DIGGERS...

But until now, nothing is happening yet.....I'm just wondering why?...Ahhhh....I know what I will read next time...ALIBIS, ALIBIS, AND MORE ALIBIS.... In our place we have a saying: RESULTS NOT ALIBIS....


walang personal opinion lang po sa "FORGET DIGGING"  na yan...(Nothing personal, only an opinion about "FORGET DIGGING".
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 08, 2009, 11:39:23 PM
the small time treasure hunters being described above are just laughing, why?
they are experiencing the rookie feeling of a real hunters,
they just told me, lets not be NATO member (no action talk only)
if ever they are free and the weather improved they go and dig again
better than bragging those metric tones ready to be taken out.... which is only good for the talking.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 09, 2009, 01:13:50 AM
here's a picture taken by amanda of don williams of kilo54 along halsema highway during 'tulsa time'
am sure it will be criticized as an ordinary crack stone, but for us the neophyte seekers believe it
as a yamashita treasure mark....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 09, 2009, 02:00:32 AM
Francisco,
 That is a TREASURE MARKER,,,No doubt about it!!! You are on the location....

Gboy,
 These people who are digging may not lost anything as i said once again,,,THEY ARE ALL EMPLOYED,,, and simply using their spare time for their treasure quest,,,And im not going to encourage them to dig if i dont know that something is there!!! I believe MYSELF if what i can do to help them,,,thought this people never asked for financial assistance but their own strength and courage!...I dont like to discourage them as these people are WORKING OUT and NOT TALKING only....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 09, 2009, 03:10:27 AM
A VERY VERY BAD NEWS!!!!

Following news article was written last December 20, 2007 and up to present ruling is not yet changed....

No cave treasure hunting without permit!
December 20th, 2007


Treasure hunters beware! No more cave exploring in search of lost treasures without a permit, so says the Philippine Department of Environment and Natural Resources!

DENR requires treasure hunters to get permits

The Philippine Inquirer, 19 December 2007

THE ROAD TO "SUCCESS" IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER EVERYDAY....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 09, 2009, 03:33:17 AM
Angel_09,

my group said with our without permit the saga will continue, thats how desperate we are in locating some of the yamashita treasure, the  hindrance as of now is the bad weather which is not in our control, timing is everything.....

Gener,

we hope we can find more symbols being pointed by this trail marker.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 09, 2009, 03:53:16 AM
I admire the courage of your group Francisco. I hope you will succed with your quest. Do not let negative comments weaken you.
 As in LOVE...all is fair in treasure hunting...

Just one small request:

If you did become succesful, just send small message saying "WE DID IT!!!"

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 09, 2009, 06:33:26 AM
Francisco,
 tell US how this X marker is facing,,when you are standing infront of it, where is NORTH??what can you see around? How far from the spring?....Have i met you or not yet!...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 09, 2009, 06:52:22 AM
Gboy,
Whether digging or open cave exploration, the difficulty or success rate is the same. That always depend on the reliability of the site. It doesn't always mean that you need that "DAMN MAP" in order to succeed otherwise, only those with maps will have hope to succeed. And not all with "DAMN MAPS" are open caves. Most are burried.

I already have a lot of treasure hunter friends around me who are successful in their diggings, less than those i know who were successful in open cave exploration. Although digging is more expensive which causes most of the dig sites to be temporarily suspended, the success rate always depend on the reliability of the site. Open caves are easier to recover but will also give a lot of obstacles going to these sites and hauling the goodies because they are more remote than the dig sites. So if you think of it again, you cannot really say which is better of the two. I believe either of the two will do. Where your assessments take you, go for it.

Fellow TH, whatever you believe in, go for it! DIG IT!!!!  ;D 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 09, 2009, 06:55:58 AM
Yeah man! DIG IT!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 09, 2009, 08:17:30 AM
Why not ask Gboy's recovery rate if he ever did one or let's say a bar of gold from his stock piles of inventoried gold.

Let's DIG INTO THAT....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 09, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
angel_09,

thanks for the encouragement.....

Gener,

it's facing north.....

the project that we have, if the weather go with us it will be a full blast operation
i will be posting pictures on coming days regarding our activities
hope the sun will show her face this coming days, our adrenalin is high.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 09, 2009, 07:57:08 PM
Maskara,
But I ask you Gboy... how many years now are you bragging of your caves reburied treasures, stock piles of gold bars ready for hauling and yet still waiting for the right time and the right person to assist your dreams. ...maybe 5 years now...it started with one cave site and we add, one or two cave site a year.

b]But nevertheless you are the same as the diggers who believed in their endeavor and dedicatedly trying and hoping for the best to come eventually.[/b]...of coure, we are the same in believing on treasure, we only believe on what our assets had SEEN GOLD PHYSICALLY already. Not on believing on NOT YET SEEN like digging and using unsystematic way of TH The first is much better definitely.
Why not ask Gboy's recovery rate if he ever did one or let's say a bar of gold from his stock piles of inventoried gold..
..NAKITA NA NGA EH, 10 stockpiles (5 ft high)) with lots of snakes inside !!!..how we could haul and sell it w/o being notice is another diskarte or problem we have to solve. My partner Budz had already STAND ON TOP OF THE TREASURE HOLE last month bcoz they attempted to haul, problema, pag pumasok kami sa butas, kita2 kami ng mga kapitbahay which is just 100 meters away. Kaya binaik ulit ang takip na boulder at pagiisipan panu diskartehan na di nila nakikita, thats we are planning and solving now, oks?




angel_09,
I know someone who " USE THE DAMM... TREASURE MAP...and forget digging !!!!....and he "Go back to basic and use his common sense..."
For the past 20 years or more, still he is no different from the treasure diggers...no gold...but take note, he HAVE SO MUCH CLEAR TREASURE MARKERS, MAPS, AND OTHER INFORMATIONS THAT WILL SUPPOSE GIVE HIM AN EDGE TO TREASURE DIGGERS...
But until now, nothing is happening yet.....I'm just wondering why?...Ahhhh....I know what I will read next time...ALIBIS, ALIBIS, AND MORE ALIBIS.... In our place we have a saying: RESULTS NOT ALIBIS...
.
...of course there is a big difference...DI KAMI NAGKALASPAG2 SA PAHUKAY...we found confirmed treasure stockpile without digging a dirt. I guess thats a better technique, why dig endlessly if there is other way of finding treasure. Diskarte lang yan.

gener,
 These people who are digging may not lost anything as i said once again,,,THEY ARE ALL EMPLOYED,,, and simply using their spare time for their treasure quest,,,And im not going to encourage them to dig if i dont know that something is there!!! I believe MYSELF if what i can do to help them,,,thought this people never asked for financial assistance but their own strength and courage!...I dont like to discourage them as these people are WORKING OUT and NOT TALKING only....
  Employment here is not an issue...we are not DOLE. We are talking here about treasure hunting technique. BTW, of course everybody BELIEVE that there is treasure out there...thats why everybody is digging...ENCOURAGING them into futile treasure hunting is one thing bcoz its like a suicide mission.....DISCOURAGING them so that they can divert to more scientific or better way of treasure hunting is much better option. I never ever encourage anybody in BARA2 OR BAHALA NA SYSTEM of treasure hunting, I always wanted a scientific way of doing it   like with map or geo survey and borehole drill of getting sample first before digging.

Yam THr,
The only difference between me and other treasure hunter...YOU ALREADY KNOW THE REASON OF MOST FAILURES (lack of treasure map, lack of hi-tech geo instruments or borehole drill like mining does, lack of budget, etc)...AND YET YOU STILL ENCOURAGE THESE BAGETS TREASURE HUNTER TO CONTINUE THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. ex. alam nyo na na odd shape stone lang yan, pinipilit nyong gawin treasure marker, kaya nagkalaspag2 tuloy sa kahuhukay...ganun din resulta...WALA RIN....WHY YOU NEVER PREVENTED SUCH DISASTER MOVES??????
I was different, I never tolerate anybody..if I know that their treasure site is hopleless bcoz of lack of everything...I discourage them immedietely...bcoz i knew their end result...waste of time of money. 


 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 09, 2009, 10:06:03 PM
we the "bagets"as describe by gboy, enter this venture with our own volition
so it cannot be said as a waste of time and money
we are doing it to burn some cholesterol
remember its an
adventure.


better than saying so and so and in the long run.......its.... zero.....
hmmm, you talk too much, since when you have been talking such discoveries?

slider,
lets not be discourage, though we are far apart from our project .... the objective is the same ....
(igiginek tako adi ta maila)                                         








Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 09, 2009, 10:15:53 PM
Yam THr,
The only difference between me and other treasure hunter...YOU ALREADY KNOW THE REASON OF MOST FAILURES (lack of treasure map, lack of hi-tech geo instruments or borehole drill like mining does, lack of budget, etc)....................
 


"YT...re destiny is our preference...bakit ba?...walang pakialaman ng diskarte... "
 
 

AND YET YOU STILL ENCOURAGE THESE BAGETS TREASURE HUNTER TO CONTINUE THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. ex. alam nyo na na odd shape stone lang yan, pinipilit nyong gawin treasure marker, kaya nagkalaspag2 tuloy sa kahuhukay...ganun din resulta...WALA RIN....WHY YOU NEVER PREVENTED SUCH DISASTER MOVES???.............

"YT...re destiny is our preference...bakit ba?...walang pakialaman ng diskarte... "
 
 


I was different, I never tolerate anybody..if I know that their treasure site is hopleless bcoz of lack of everything...I discourage them immedietely...bcoz i knew their end result...waste of time of money...............
 
 

"YT...re destiny is our preference...bakit ba?...walang pakialaman ng diskarte... "
 
 


Gboy,
Don't you think the statement above are contradicting? 

Its for you to decide.....

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 10, 2009, 01:40:43 AM
This is the only thing i can say,,,,,

I GUESS all of you here knows about the story of a group in cagayan valley region who are "BAGETS" in treasure hunting...they are actually digging without any direction for almost a year without getting any positive response,,,and then,,,One of this group approach help from the forum in the internet which is replied by GENER...with only few words from me...they got their gold in 3 DAYS!!!! that is hell of a word of encouragement.....Prove it yourself,,,Am i right or wrong???

NEXT...A group of "beterans" treasure hunters in isabela region who are working for their whole life with out success again get my advice from e-mail and forum with just few suggestion from me again and they got again their gold......unfortunately 2 of them died caused of boat mishap in the northern philippines few months ago......

NEXT...Someone from central luzon whom i visited his site while im on vacation got his chest!! in few days of work only... some people knows here too....

NEXT.....These "BAGETS" who are asking for advice here again will get their gold!!!!he-he-he And i will say this too SO NEAR-YET SO FAR....that question can be answered when they will get their part....
SO BAGETS treasure hunters,,,,GO ON! DIG IT!.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 10, 2009, 06:08:57 AM
Yes! that's right! DIG IT! only those who became successful in what they did has the right or authority to say it works and proven that IT REALLY WORKED! because they experienced it themselves. How can you prove your technique or your scientific approach is the best when you yourself has not yet proven it?

You've already seen your target, you've stand on top of it, at your hands reach, yet you cannot still get it? because you have not decided within yourself yet if you will carry one, you have not resolved yet how to get through the people whou might see it, you have not settled yet with the owner of the land...etc. where infact you already trespassed several times going into ones private property, sneaked several times inside the tunnel or cave but cannot learn or think of a way how to sneak out with just one piece without being noticed? Will not the landowner sooner explore his land and find out about this cave?

It's like crossing a river without a bridge... while you can swim across or cross through the shallow part but you said... no i will wait for the bridge to be constructed, so i could cross without getting wet....

YET, SO FAR THIS IS THE BEST TREASURE HUNTING TECHNIQUE you are proud of. Is this not the same as digging without any lead? At least when you dig you are doing something. YAN ang DISKARTE hehehe... If you DON'T ACT, wait for the treasure to act on you. NO offense to anyone...discussion lang ito.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 10, 2009, 09:10:01 AM
Again let us give our friend Gboy a pass he is being clobbered here from all directions he should be black and blue right now.

It's for arguments sake and still Gboy stands on his ground that's what I like about him even though how controversial and contradictorily his stories are. No success rate, no conceivable strategic plans and no courage at all to make a move and compromised with land owners and drive the snakes out.

Come to think of it these are very simple things to decide and can be done but why there is nothing being done is it because there is no truth about all the caves, stockpiles of gold etc.... or these are all dreams and fictions to let us salivate and envy his adventure.

Hey Gboy we'll just make a movie out of your adventure then we leave the ending to let people decide how to haul your precious and very elusive treasures.

Yeah I got a very simple plan.
Tell the land owner that you are a snake trader, that inside that hole is a breading ground of snakes, hundreds of them. You tell them that you sell the snake venom to laboratories and the meat to the Japs and Koreans proposed to them a 50-50 profit.

Maybe they will listen and will let you inside the hole. Then you can haul 3 bars everyday that's 60 bars a week then I will send my Korean friend (buyer) to pick the snake meat/gold bars or we'll just put a buying station for the snake meat and gold bars plus a small snack store of snake meat soup, snake adobo and snake papa itan or kinilaw na cobra.

Isn't it a brilliant idea? snake meat and gold bars plus we can help the local folks to be employed as servidora, cook and part owner of the bar, double compensation my friend and local folks will be great full to you, you gave them a livelihood.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 10, 2009, 09:16:23 AM
Ha..Ha...Ha...

I like your idea Bro. So simple yet will be very effective...(Kidding aside, if it is really the situation, it may be one of the best solution.)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 10, 2009, 09:34:10 AM
That's why we are here my friends to help even in Gboys dreams he wont scape.
If still this is not effective to him then reality bites the dust there's nothing to achieve.

A poem for Gboy;
A dream is a dream deep inside my brain
Under the moon light far out in the sky
Stars shines like the gold in the cave that cannot be reach.

Snakes that guards the angels of wealth
Caves that's concealed never to be found
Land owner's eyes like the eagle lurking around

How can I
Someday will haul
My golden dreams
Inside my cave
Never they will get
Never will they take away from me


It's only mine
The Golden Boy

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 10, 2009, 06:51:19 PM
I GUESS all of you here knows about the story of a group in cagayan valley region who are "BAGETS" in treasure hunting...they are actually digging without any direction for almost a year without getting any positive response,,,and then,,,One of this group approach help from the forum in the internet which is replied by GENER...with only few words from me...they got their gold in 3 DAYS!!!! that is hell of a word of encouragement.....Prove it yourself,,,Am i right or wrong??? location Isabela, I died, 2 students hiding hehehehehehe

NEXT...A group of "beterans" treasure hunters in isabela region who are working for their whole life with out success again get my advice from e-mail and forum with just few suggestion from me again and they got again their gold......unfortunately 2 of them died caused of boat mishap in the northern philippines few months ago. Pacific side of Sierra MAdre...


Well sometime treasures are "So near yet so far" charge from my own personal experience...hawak hawak mo na, nawala pa...reality yun, how did is happened...well science can prove it.....

this forum is for all of us to share information!!!! OK


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 10, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
angel_09,

Its not contradicting its the fact....most of treasure hunters here, tolerate some bagets treasure hunters even if they knew that their site is totally useless digging site. Instead of discouragung them to cut loses, they encourge them until the bagets YTHrs became LASPAG. Alam2 na palpak ang digging site pinapabayaan lang...Thats the FACT.

Gener,

Hearsay re alleged successfull treasure recovery of YTHr is one thing...proving it is another thing, oks?  ;D
Ex: If I claim that my friend Zobex had recovered treasure,,,THATS NOT HEARSAY bcoz i have his PICTURE PROOF OF HIS RECOVERED GOLD STOCKPILE...undeniable proof... ganun lang kasimple...hehehe

Cap Miwa,
How can you prove your technique or your scientific approach is the best when you yourself has not yet proven it?
...AHA, of course, proven na namin yan, alam mo panu kami dumiskarte laging naka fully documented yan complete with photo ops....

You've already seen your target, you've stand on top of it, at your hands reach, yet you cannot still get it? ....Marami pang pasaway sa tabi2...pag pinasok yan, magtataka kapitbahay bakit kami bigla pumasok sa butas, kaya takpan muna butas na yan, pag aralan pinakamagandang diskarte...hehehe

because you have not decided within yourself yet if you will carry one, you have not resolved yet how to get through the people whou might see it, you have not settled yet with the owner of the land.  where infact you already trespassed several times going into ones private property, sneaked several times inside the tunnel or cave but cannot learn or think of a way how to sneak out with just one piece without being noticed? ..You are wrong with your assumption...nirumble2 at panaghalo2 mo mga sites natin... THis is not PB SITE wherein the owner doesn't know the presence of treasure, what am referring to is SNAKE CAVE TREASURE SITE (10 stockpile), it was the owner that pinpoint us their treasure cave site...problem, may mga kapitbahay sya sa tabi2...We decided that the best option or diskarte is to fence the whole area and built a house on top of the hole, para di malaman ng kapitbahay ginagawa namin, then commence the hauling....as usual PERA2 lang yan.

Will not the landowner sooner explore his land and find out about this cave?
...The native land owner...an old lady with his teenager son. Knew already these treasure site bcoz they have hauled several pieces of gold bars already for these past years. thats why we were able to monitor them bcoz they are well known in the area to possees gold. It took our team 3 years of convincing and courting to cooperate with us.
When we interrogate his teenager son (bahag boy son)...the kid told us. He already entered the cave at least 3 times...taking out 1 kilo bar each and sold it at 5k-10k pesos....it had 10 stockpile (5 ft high)..and had lots of snakes and obnoxious smell that irritate his eyes (maybe toxic gas). Pag sinusurvey nya sa dulo, nagtatayuan na malalaking cobra, kaya umaatras agad sya. Thats why we called it THE SNAKE CAVE TREASURE. The last time bahag boy went inside was last year, he back out bcoz at the entrance he stepped on the big sleeping python...dati wala dun sa entrance ang malaking sawa pero ng huling pasok nya, nandun sa entrance natulog kaya di muna sya basta2 pumapasok. baka gawin sya hapunan ng sawa. ;D.. The kid even showed to my partner Budz the cave hole now covered with rock boulder. When my partner Budz surveyed the area, it had neighbors maybe 100 meters away. The neighbors are wandering what my team is doing their?...Kung nagtagal ng ilang oras ang grupo tyak sisitahin sila ng baranggay officials...the best option...BACK OUT AT PAG ARALAN MUNA PINAKAMAGANDANG DISKARTE DYAN.. HINAY2 LANG...OKS?...As the saying goes...si Lord lang nakakaalam kailan namin mahahakot yan...malay mo next week, next month, next year...and other year...oks?...And definitely di ako mauuna pagpasok sa butas baka lunukin ako ng sawa ...si Cliff paunahin ko o bahag boy.....hehehe ;D

Maskara,
The TRUTH can't be bended in a debate. hehehe...hhhmmmm selling those snake though is a good idea..or maybe i will give you a live cobra for a souvenir  ;D...and I admit you are indeed a good poet than gold broker/treasure hunter... :o

Boy lara,

Well sometime treasures are "So near yet so far" charge from my own personal experience...hawak hawak mo na, nawala pa...reality yun, how did is happened...well science can prove it.....
this forum is for all of us to share information!!!! OK
....matagal ko na sinasabi...SI LORD LANG NAKAKAALAM NYAN...BCOZ ITS DESTINY ....
beyond our contol...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 10, 2009, 08:32:37 PM
hehehe pareng gboy don't get offended... we are just having fun. hopefully to bring smile or frown in the face of our fellow treasure knights of the round table. or teasure knights of the keyboard...

in fairness to Gboy, i believe many of his sites are real. i have seen the incredible photos. but i can't just believe the way they are handling it. they are always in hiding for fear that they are being hunted by secret agents. well, maybe they still have the trauma from what has happened to them.

Gboy, i know you are the only way to contact Budz, come on let's start planning the recovery of that site in boylara's territory. election is close...baka matalo na mga manok natin doon.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 10, 2009, 09:00:05 PM
Gboy my good friend those snakes are aphrodisiac I love to have one for dinner and also you promised a the cobra as my souvenir it will be a nice golden cobra trophy.

How many neighbors are around the site they will be greatfull for your generosity.

The lord says to feed the needy and share your wealth but the lord will not tolerate that it will be yours alone maybe the Lord is just waiting for you to decide if you will share the wealth to the people around that area and also to all your friends here.

By the time you know it the snakes will disappear (they will end up a delicacy, the cobra is mine) you'll be hauling all the gold you can carry while the people around will not even noticed it. What they will see instead are snakes being hauled and sold to the Koreans and the Japs.

The Lord works in mysterious ways.......you are the instrument of good and the angels will help you carry those treasure for everybody to benefit.

Thanks for complimenting me for the poem, I promise that I will be a good and fair Au broker when you start hauling.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 10, 2009, 09:23:21 PM
Cap Miwa,

I'm not offended, infact am enjoying as well...

Gboy, i know you are the only way to contact Budz, come on let's start planning the recovery of that site in boylara's territory. election is close...baka matalo na mga manok natin doon.
   My partner Cliff is already in the area surveying around at naghanap2 budget  ;D , Si Budz and his alalays was standby on his hide out in Nueva Vizcaya (pakamot2 yagbols) waiting Cliff update....In fairness, my team mates are working hard and doing their best...kaya lang naman nadelay to eh bcoz some people who promised to help us, didn't deliver thats why our timetable was very much delayed. As I have said before, we do not want any politician involve...mahirap na, totohanan na to, hinde na biro2 kaya buhay mo nakataya dyan sa konting pagkakamali....MAY DULO RIN YAN...HOPEFULLY SOON. :o

MASKARA,
There are at least 3 nipa hut neigbors near the snake cave site...one is treasure hunter baranggay tanod...dun kami umiiwas kasi alam nya diskarte ng katulad namin treasure hunter group. Pag may bago mukha at mukhang mga treasure hunters na pumapasyal sa area nila. He will automatically inform the barangay captain at sisitahin kami kaya nahihirapan tumambay ng matagal at dumiskarte ang grupo. Matindeng plano at diskarte talaga.

Look at Boy Lara...when he roam the area, everybody knows that he is into treasure hunting, pati grupo namin nalaman agad namin Kahit 100 km away kami from his team. marami PASABILIS AT anti-TREASURE HUNTER SPIES dun,  panu ka makakadiskarte pag ganyan marami pasabilis...KAYA MATINDING PLANO AT DISKARTE TALAGA YAN.
If the LORD permits and give us those treasure blessings...di mo kaya bilangin yan...at di mo kaya ebenta lahat yan...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 10, 2009, 09:58:01 PM
how about a hand in planning?
Create two groups, the first group for the au, the second group will be like the missionaries.
The second group should start being seen or visible in the area so that they will be used to it when new faces arrives in the area. Moving as missionaries will somehow led them away to think of the first purpose. It will even give an edge of the purpose, knowing the character and way of life of the inhabitants there. When befriending them, they might even become a help to the first purpose. There are only 3 huts near anyway.
 
While the missionaries are moving, let the first group move one at a time as if part of the missionaries. Then they could sneak into the caves while missionary group continue their role.

Consider these facts, even the japanese spends a lot of time doing these, posting as researchers, agricultural advisers, etc. They even become farmers, planting vegetables, corn, ginger etc. bringing with them high breeds to astonish the farmers around. That will take away the suspicion of the neighbors of the real purpose. Then they sneak in the mountains and search for the caves where the treasures were hidden when the neighbors were unsuspecting. This has happened in our place.
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 10, 2009, 10:10:55 PM
I can volunteer to be a missionary, Gboy just promised me na huag mo ako ipatuka sa cobra.

We have 2 great plans already;
First = the Snake hunters,
Second = the Missionaries

These two can combine....

Any other plans?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 10, 2009, 10:25:50 PM
Wait for a new President, a credible one ....
If possible a Treasure Hunter himself....
A believer of Yamashita Treasure.....
and it would not be hard for all of us.....
I have one candidate in mind.....
                     and i think we are all  thinking of the same guy
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 10, 2009, 10:42:58 PM
The current president is already a treasure hunter, a believer of the japanese burried treasure. in fact even his predecessors, they are all treasure hunters and believers of the japanese burried treasure. My close friend, an aircraft maintenance engineer carried tons of 12kg au bars from a plane under him, for erap in 1999.
And she hunts not just for burried gold, in caves but even the golds you are holding. Lately, i heard she is also looking for frb's, frn, tov, wf etc. So what else are you waiting for? The only problem is credibility, but if you are going to wait for a credible president, you will be gone but the gold will still remain, waiting for another generation of hunters to do the same thing and so on and so forth.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 10, 2009, 11:51:35 PM
that's why I want to recommend, a worthy one among us,
someone who knows the 172 treasure sites or more who do the
twenty years of research regarding the treasures....
that way there will be no reason why he cannot retrieve those
tons of treasure.....
Credibility?
No problem for him.....being surrounded by many of us, as his adviser
we will make him credible......

maybe i'm just dreaming....
cap miwa is right ....just wait till we are gone since the treasure will always be there,
and wait for another generation of hunters to come....but for the time being we keep on digging
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 11, 2009, 12:21:41 AM
GBOY my brother,
 No offence tol but its "NOT HEARSAY" because if you said that means, IM ALSO A HEARSAY? It was already proven my friend and they are credible,,,Only thing is medyo napag-iwanan ka na lang talaga ng milya milya...Myself already experienced being successful and not only once my friend..otherwise i cannot be in my prestigious position right now....as because formerly,,,im the poorest of the poorest in the country but thanks to the exsistence of hidden treasures....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 11, 2009, 12:36:06 AM
so there you are brothers in treasure hunting,,,,
we have a living proof, that's why we are being inspired the bagetsbeing described,
actually we have followed you sir Gener from ming on how you help those hunters
till they post their gratitude since they're successful with their endeavour
through your help in analyzing their markers....

if only our one and only G boy can do the same......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 11, 2009, 12:38:36 AM
Hello po,

Boylara, Yes! we are going in to dynamite already.we are bombarding it to see its underneath and dig as well. our uncle will use the (bombarded)rocks for his rice field-rip raps haha!

Francisco, wen (manong) we will not be discourage by this negative comment, anyway little to loose and more to gain-exercise kunam man! "usto san kanam, igiginek tako ed wani asi tako mantilaok nu wada?!"

Manong Gener, we will update you as soon as we'll go to our site, it seems the weather now is cooperating.
Manong frm (LU), musta po (how are you!) we are directing most our effort in our site, the group is still feeling strong pull from the site. hope you will have time to come here again soon.

Yes our group are all Bagets,yes we do experience difficulties and at some point we are thinking of stopping it due to money, time and misunderstanding but with advises from friends here and abroad we managed to keep it going.
Im happy because thru this diggings i was able to meet new friend, friends like policemen, jeep drivers, small-politicians, gov't employees, etc. At this point we have already found the body of the iceberg-friendship! finding Ytreasure is just the tip.

Salamat to those who gave comments about diggings.As manong Gener said, its just a hobby

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 11, 2009, 12:51:32 AM
Bro. Gener is one of the most credible person in treasure hunting. He has the authority because he has recovered himself and even learned how to read and interpret those signs and markers in the country of the rising sun, Japan. A lot of achievement in this field, you have to be at least like him or more than him before you could question his credibility. Furthermore, he is a good guy, you can easily get along with. So humble yet so filled... with wealth in his vaults hehehe.

Bro, maybe you should bring to the country your yatch so we could operate the shipwreck sites. Please load a 2-man operated submarine so we could explore underwater. If you need a pilot, i could ask my friend in Britain to pilot it for us. He is anyway interested also to explore those shipwrecks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 11, 2009, 01:16:24 AM
My yatch is still moored in the pontoon at marina in morocco,as usual both of its engine needs replacement and i dont have yet a budget to replace them as they are all very expensive even only its installation...Im planning to remove it from marina there as im already burdened with a lot of unpaid fees..but anyway, its all manageable! i will pursue to bring it in the philippines once that its a sea-worthy again and sure,,,this is intended for us for shipwreck diving, it can comfortably carry 12 person at a time..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 11, 2009, 02:47:50 AM
I received an IM from amanda regarding the pictures (marker) along halsema,
since it was facing north the group tried to scrutinized the surrounding area
twelve feet away towards north they found this marker which i'm posting.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 11, 2009, 03:04:14 AM
This marker says,,,You are half distance away!!! possibly another marker at 12 feet,,,check!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 11, 2009, 03:40:31 AM
towards north or east,,,,,,I think I'd rather go check for myself where the second marker is facing......
travel time again,
I called them they don't carry any compass.....

anyway this is just our second option in case the present one will not show up,
I'm not showing any detail yet with our ongoing project since its a little bit complicated....
we have to iron out some more details with the land owner.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 11, 2009, 03:48:31 AM
hey guys,
you need a compass, an altimeter, barometer and can also be used to detect if something precious is hidden underneath? well, a friend of mine told me that this is a secret how to use it, until he finish his book on this...but he told me how. Buy this watch or if you have already one...Casio Protrek PRG40. The later models might not work, just this one or the PRG50, but I think only the PRG40 is available here. This is a 2002 model i guess. If you have one, I'll show you how it will work.   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 11, 2009, 06:09:26 AM
I have no idea if north or south, but it has to be after 12feet! yes, you have at least a compass...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 11, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
Gener,
No offence tol but its "NOT HEARSAY" because if you said that means, IM ALSO A HEARSAY? It was already proven my friend and they are credible,,,Only thing is medyo napag-iwanan ka na lang talaga ng milya milya...Myself already experienced being successful and not only once my friend..otherwise i cannot be in my prestigious position right now....as because formerly,,,im the poorest of the poorest in the country but thanks to the exsistence of hidden treasures
No offence for your claims , IT MAYBE TRUE...... but am a researcher...am hard to pleased and I DON'T BELIEVE EASILY. (thats my training as researcher, scrutinize first every infos)...unless am 100% convinced by DOCUMENTED PROOF OF GOLD shown at me...or undeniable proof on treasure existence in a certain treasure site..
Being rich or career successfull is not an automatic came from treasure...UNLESS PROVEN OTHERWISE.
In treasure hunting community claims, allegation or hearsay of succesfull treasure recovery is prevalent and ordinary probably to give hope to bagets treasure hunter...but if you ask some DOCUMENTED PROOF OF TREASURE...dyan na nagkakatalo. Ex: everybody claims that Marcos most big time politcians are gold cronies also...MAY PRUWEBA BA?...dyan na nagkakatalo...ang hearsay at totoong kwento.

Francisco,
o there you are brothers in treasure hunting,,,,
we have a living proof, that's why we are being inspired the bagetsbeing described,
actually we have followed you sir Gener from ming on how you help those hunters
till they post their gratitude since they're successful with their endeavour
through your help in analyzing their markers....
if only our one and only G boy can do the same....
...of course I had help a lot of treasure hunters who emailed me. I DISCOURAGE them to continue on their useless digging holes, instead i show them the correct and scientific way of treasure hunting. If I didn't prevent them in continuing their useless dig site..am sure marami na sana sa kanila nagkapaspag2 sa pahukay nila. They had saved a lot of time and money. The only problem with bagets treasure hunters, even though their treasure site had NO TREASURE still they wanted to continue...THAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN bcoz i know the disastrous consequence.
When I was a bagets YTHr, my team get experience of pagkalaspag2also  bcoz NOBODY PREVENTED US TO CONTINUE ON OUR USELESS DIG SITE...kaya nga ayoko na maulit yon sa iba. They may seems am killjoy...but thats reality if you have bad site, sorry ka nalang PALPAK TALAGA YAN.


Cap Miwa,
Create two groups, the first group for the au, the second group will be like the missionaries.
For Snake Cave Site or PB site...bistado na ang ganitong alibis...halos lahat ganyan ang gimik dun, however in other far flung cave site it could be possible.....
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 11, 2009, 08:26:08 PM
Gboy if I am not mistaken you posted about 100 treasure sites. how many of these sites where there are successful recoveries made?

let's scrutinized your sites with your own words "(thats my training as researcher, scrutinize first every infos)". meaning all these 100+ sites are positive 100%.

Speaking hypothetically if your recovery rate is 1 site per year it will take you more than 100+ years to recover each and every treasure sites you have.
But in reality no recovery have been done yet since you began posting these treasure sites. Was it 10 years since?

If it takes this much years and counting it will take over a thousand years for you to recover your treasure sites.

Greed will take you nowhere my friend.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 12, 2009, 02:09:19 AM
GBOY my Brother,
  Your research can be very effective in finding the truth and im not against of it as its true,,,,but that does not means that you know 99.9% If whats going on from inside of houses of millions of filipinos...No Way! You are not sure if what they does in every minutes,,Means,,,Lets say that you "THINK" that you know all the Treasure locations nationwide as you claimed thru your extensive research, Then let me say that that .9% has survived from your treasure lists of research and it did success!...The movement of everyone in the country can never seen by anyone else! The world is moving and something is happening in every second....No one among us all knows if whats going on...Tell me my good brother, among your more than 100 researched sites of yama-treasures,,,How many of it is under your control? 99% of it are not in your hands,,,means,,,you can lost it all in just a second,,,you can keep the research paper in your hands anyway and keep it safe...No offence brother but really,,,you were left behind by miles,,,So if i were you,,,better to act now and at least grab one of your site before someone will take away from you! We are getting older and why shall we not enjoy our single life!!!...1 piece of 6.2 kgs of au is more than enough to visit the world all over,,Why should you think of TONS of TONS of it while it may take your life too....Go and get one piece,,,,enjoy your life,,,then when you got bored then thats the time that you need to get back to your TONS....GOODLUCK good brother of mine....
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 12, 2009, 02:18:59 AM
To all treasure hunters,

These questions will give everybody an insight wether digging is worth in treasure hunting or not:

Questions:
1. Do all gold brought by the Japanese here (Philippines), were all put in caves?
    If yes, prove it with hard facts, such as documents saying this cave have this, and that, and this and that.
    If no, then continue digging.

2. Are all T.her's who dig to find treasure failed?
    if yes, name all those treasure hunters in the Philippines who failed in digging.
    If no, then continue digging.

3. Are all caves who have alledged gold treasure inside are all true?
    If yes, provide DOCUMENTED PROOF OF TREASURE and DOCUMENTED PROOF OF GOLD inside so that this allegation will not become hallucination.
    If no, then continue digging.

4. Are all those treasure hunters who have alledged gold in their caves, are succesful in retrieving it?
    If yes, name them all to validate the allegations.
    If no, then forget the caves and continue digging.......

Angel_09

I still have some questions, but I will ask it later.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 12, 2009, 02:44:13 AM
BTW,

 If Bro Gener says, " So near yet so far" - for treasure digging,

I will say, "so simple yet so complex" - for cave's gold retrieval.


Even the object is not yet reachable, still we can see it in its azimuth. .....Treasure digging
If we can't see it in its azimuth, then the object is not there.................... cave's gold retrieval.

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 12, 2009, 03:18:31 AM
ANSWER TO BRO ANGEL-09,

#1: I believe that "MAYBE" 5% of japanese treasures are on cave, as all people knows that caves can be easily accessed by any people specially those cave enthusiasts..maybeTUNNELS can be 70% as though they were built for military purposes, they can use it too as treasure hiding place,,they know the plan and location...they can easily blast it off...THEN I SHALL CONTINUE DIGGING....

#2:Not all failed but perhaps 1 in thousands! I cant name all as they may SHOOT me on the head! he-he!
     ....STILL,,CONTINUE DIGGING....

#3: NEGATIVE!! otherwise they may hauled it just few days long ago after they put it,,Do you think that i will sleep if i know that my gold is in unsafe cave... I better put it under my house!!! IM NOT saying all anyway as it is CLAIMED that THEY WERE STILL THERE or some caves are safe....BUT IM STILL DIGGING IN.....

#4:Hmmmmm, That question is difficult to answer! Because if i will say YES then you will scrutinise me as i cannot prove it as im innocent/ignorant thought it was a story started on the 70s and dragging till this days.....And if i will say NO,,,,Then i shall commit more DIGGINGS.....MORE DIGGINGSSS!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 12, 2009, 05:14:59 AM
I have a proposal, to help Gboy in proving his stand about treasure in caves; and at the same time, satisfying the curiosity of other hunters about this claim, ONCE AND FOR ALL

Note: this proposal is no joke)

For Gboy:

Since Gboy is 100% sure about his cave sites, (whichever is available and least hardest), I am proposing the following:

1. Gboy will select a specific cave site to be operated, and will identify the TOTAL COST - from the start of the project until its completion.

2. As in any project study, all expenses to be incurred will be properly accounted and itemized, for accounting purposes, and for showing of goodwill and transparency to all members of the team and financiers.

3. Prior to the initiation of the project, operation's team leader shall discuss  with the financiers the course of events to be implemented before, during and after the retrieval of commodity in the cave, again, to show transparency on the side of the financiers.

4. Since this is a big operation in terms of financial aspects, and will be done covertly, the financier who are not allowed to go with the team, shall monitor the operation, either through audio or visual communication...to ensure the safety of the team members for operation and to satisfy the requirements of the gold holders.

5. The number of the team members will be determine by the leader, since he is more knowledgable to "ins and outs" of the operation.

6. To ensure a positive result, the team should not take objects more than required; say if the team is 3 nos., each will only take 1 bar of the least weight. The total amount of take is more than enough to finance the second operation, plus a decent dividents for the team and the financiers.

7. When the team reaches lowland and safer venue, they will be fetch up by other members to be brought to the safe house for debriefing.

8. Dealing of Goods will be done by Maskara or whoever is appointed; to convert it to cash and for sharing alike, after deducting the incurred expenses during operation.

8. Once the opeation has started, no one will be allowed to back out, as each member are important and have special role for the next operation.

The financiers:

1. those who are interested to join and finance this operation, shall be called financiers, they may or may not go to the operation.

2. Upon confirming the total justified cost of the project, each financier will give an appropiate amount, or in term of percentage of the total amount, to cover the operation's expenses.

3. Once the operation's procedures and expenses has been discussed and approved, expenditures will not be questioned before, during and after the operation, since the team leader will provide detailed accounts to reconcile the expenses.

4. Financiers and team leader will set a timetable prior the operation. Illogical and unrealistic scenarios will not be included during the planning of the operation.

5. The planning will include contingency plans in case the agreed plans needs to be modified.

6. The word "cannot", "very hard", impossible", " I quit" must not be used by team members since advance planning has been done and all probabilities are all discussed, including the near impossible situations.

In this proposals, all forseen situations are included, loop holes are covered for the financier and team sides. With these proposal, the only thing that will hinder this operation  are the financier's CAPABILITY to finance, and the REAL EXISTENCE of these cave with gold.
 
(I might have forgotten some important issues, please include....If Gboy is really serious to operate his caves.)

Gboy, the ball is on your side...
Angel_09

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 12, 2009, 06:13:49 AM
I can agree with that proposal if all can be done and proven,,,I will be the first to raise my hand! Why not, count on me on that....but as was proposed,,it has to be proven 100%,,,We talk in businessmans way and all shall be done with no hindrance from both sides.....We can join our hands on that proposal but all has to be on very safe side both physically and financially....What Do You Think Brother Gboy???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 12, 2009, 08:42:52 AM
That is a good proposal and i will agree to that... this will end the longtime wait of gboy if it will materialize. Otherwise, if we follow the correct and scientific way of treasure hunting by gboy, nobody would have been successful yet but everyone will all end up like gboy still waiting for destiny to meet him on the road.

Peace pareng Gboy. I think you better discuss this with your group, another chance, just make it good, everyone is willing to help you now. Your site is not impossible, only you who makes it near to impossible. Everything can be made eaisier with a good plan and that could be discussed. What do you say?

PS to question 4 of Angel_09... there has been success both in digging and in caves. PROOF?They are both my friends.
My first friend got a share of more than 1box in the dig and now have his shanty converted into a big, fabulous 4-storey house, bought a petron station, a drugstore, a grocery store and hectares of land. Well, not to mention our friend here who has a yacht in morocco, you know him  ;D

My next friend who took 2pcs au bars from the cave we climbed a month ago did not prosper because he only sold it for few thousands because he did not knew yet then the value of the bars, that's why we went up a month ago but the area is now guarded by private army.

In other words, I will still climb those CAVES and I will KEEP ON DIGGING!!!! There is SUCCESS for as long as your site is real!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ambotsaimo on August 12, 2009, 06:45:44 PM

come on lads,... can't wait to read about it and see the photos!



 

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 12, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
To all treasure hunters,

These questions will give everybody an insight wether digging is worth in treasure hunting or not:

Questions:
1. Do all gold brought by the Japanese here (Philippines), were all put in caves?
    If yes, prove it with hard facts, such as documents saying this cave have this, and that, and this and that.
    If no, then continue digging.

2. Are all T.her's who dig to find treasure failed?
    if yes, name all those treasure hunters in the Philippines who failed in digging.
    If no, then continue digging.

3. Are all caves who have alledged gold treasure inside are all true?
    If yes, provide DOCUMENTED PROOF OF TREASURE and DOCUMENTED PROOF OF GOLD inside so that this allegation will not become hallucination.
    If no, then continue digging.

4. Are all those treasure hunters who have alledged gold in their caves, are succesful in retrieving it?
    If yes, name them all to validate the allegations.
    If no, then forget the caves and continue digging.......

Angel_09

I still have some questions, but I will ask it later.


Bro, I do not know where you are going with this questions:


All we know is that the Japanese loot where diverted to the Philippines, whether they are hidden 2-5-20-50Ft under ground, in trunk of trees, cemeteries, Kilometer post, churches, the carabao statue at CLSU in water wells or in caves, man made tunnels, sea etc...etc..etc..

No body is keeping statistics that is not important it is whether you believe it or not it doesn't matter. I bet you No body ever think on your questions above (it's only you) what can you conclude then by your questions it will always be the same answer keep on digging keep on looking no matter what other people say.

The digging will still continue any place anytime rain or shine nothing will stop the TH you might not even know they are already digging underneath your house so look out your place is being tunneled.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 12, 2009, 07:31:06 PM
Angel brother you are forgetting the most important thing we can't just plan and proceed according to hearsay, (sabi ng pointer, binisita, nakita meronng ahas etc,) so far everything Gboy is claiming are verbal, no tangible hard evidence proof.

I can only be satisfied if Gboy can show photos, evidences, inside and outside caves, tunnels under water that's very simple and easy to do. It will be much better if he also can produced videos.

I will be the first to extend my services ( serving hot coffee to boss Gboy) if he can produced the hard evidences.

I'll be your book keeper and recorder brother Angel.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 12, 2009, 07:56:15 PM
     attention everybody see below Gboy's answer on my comment  

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Maskara,

I am 101% with your adviced Gboy, why not your site instead it is safer and no need digging, it is just laying out there waiting to be hauled out.
You are looking for somebody trustworthy and fair who will lend you a hand, It's in front of you just ask and you'll get help, seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened.
Why not, it is possible aight?
(this is my comment)


   If its my cave sites why not, but it is Budz cave sites...its not my call. Budz is so secretive and conseervative to other people re his cave sites that even his own brothers he never tell its existence. It took me almost 15 years of treasure hunting acquintances with him, before he reveal his treasure cave sites to me. Ganun kahigpit siya kasi totoo na yan eh, hinde na hukayan. Actually expected na ganyan behavior kasi kung ikaw ba naman alam mo ang kweba ng ginto kahit relatives mo di mo palalapitin.
   Its just unfortunate...the cave site area is not yet in our control...someday madidiskartehan din namin yan.

I think Gboy is conceding that he is not in control and have no power on the 100+ sites, why then all those bragging it's a total disapointment.. did Gboy took us for a ride? This totally change the scenario....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 12, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
Isa-isa lang...you have lots of questions/replies. i can't answer them all. To clarify everything dapat nakanumbering ang questions nyo para madali cut and paste and answer.

Maskara,
Angel brother you are forgetting the most important thing we can't just plan and proceed according to hearsay, (sabi ng pointer, binisita, nakita meronng ahas etc,) so far everything Gboy is claiming are verbal, no tangible hard evidence proof.
I can only be satisfied if Gboy can show photos, evidences, inside and outside caves, tunnels under water that's very simple and easy to do. It will be much better if he also can produced videos.
...FYI, t took us several times visitation, survey, interrogation of live pointer,cave pictures, photo ops, documentation etc...before we claim a cave site...positive. Am a former engineer i know how to make a feasibility/project studies on a certain treasure project. If I gave you a project proposal...complete info na yan....budget na lang kulang. Cap Miwa and Boy Lara had seen my treas files..its complete (pictures, testimonies, eqp't needed, budget/cost, markers, proofs, evidences, etc,etc.)...300+ pages yan halos isang dangkal ang kapal.

Gboy if I am not mistaken you posted about 100 treasure sites. how many of these sites where there are successful recoveries made?
let's scrutinized your sites with your own words "(thats my training as researcher, scrutinize first every infos)". meaning all these 100+ sites are positive 100%.
...Our treasure sites is compilation of several treasure hunters site...it used to be 300+ sites, we scrutinized it and downgraded to about 100+ sites only.....Not all those sites are 100%, I will be conservative kasi di naman ako nagbaon nyan maybe 75% on average..

Angel_09,
1. Do all gold brought by the Japanese here (Philippines), were all put in caves?
    If yes, prove it with hard facts, such as documents saying this cave have this, and that, and this and that.
    If no, then continue digging.

    NOT ALL TREASURE SITES HAD BEEN HIDDEN IN CAVES...IT WAS HIDDEN ON PLACES YOU LESS EXPECTED....INSIDE TREE TRUNK, STATUE, FLAGPOLE, UNDERNEATH CHURCH ALTAR, CLIFFWALL CAVES, WATERFALLS, INSIDE BRIDGES FOUNDATION, SEPTIC TANK, KILOMETER POST,...ITS ALMOST EVERYWHERE.

2. Are all T.her's who dig to find treasure failed?
    if yes, name all those treasure hunters in the Philippines who failed in digging.
    If no, then continue digging.
...I assume 99.99% failed due to difficulty of the project. Pinakatago2 kasi yan, The treasure was intentionally hidden to make the finders have difficulty recovering it...so expect several failures attempt.

3. Are all caves who have alledged gold treasure inside are all true?
    If yes, provide DOCUMENTED PROOF OF TREASURE and DOCUMENTED PROOF OF GOLD inside so that this allegation will not become hallucination.
    If no, then continue digging.
...for the cave sites that we have confirmed to contain treasures...OF COURSE ITS FULLY DOCUMENTED AND HAD PROOFS.

4. Are all those treasure hunters who have alledged gold in their caves, are succesful in retrieving it?
    If yes, name them all to validate the allegations.
    If no, then forget the caves and continue digging.......
 
I DO NOT KNOW THE TREASURE HUNTERS WHO HAVE TREASURE CAVES....my treasure cave knowlegde is limited only on our own treasure cave sites. Walang ako pakialam sa ibang Treas hunters cave sites.

Your proposal seems fine, but it need to be discussed thoroughly.
You know, we could have easily proposed these cave site to PGMA or big time mining companies...BCOZ ITS AN EASY SELL, napakadali ilako nito , hauling na yan eh. But Budz is too conservative about his site, doesn't want many people involve due to risk of leakage. Evem his own brothers he kept these sites secret. Luckily am one of those whom he trust and it took me 15 years of YTH acquintances before he showed me his treasure cave sites (i took picture some of it)....

Budz condition is simple...he doesn't want it to be financed bcoz the funders team will have a say on the project (tyak makikialam ang ibang tao or funders group)...Budz wanted it to control the entire project. Gusto nya ang team lang namin ang magtrabaho nyan...Funder's role is only budget contribution/donation...thats why we have no takers on that project bcoz every body wanted to get in. Gusto ni Budz...budget contribution and donation lang ang papel ng funder...at grupo namin ang didiskarte...once we succeed, we will show the funder the video of entire treasure, then hauling process will commence and planed by our team and funder....

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 12, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
Gener,

Your research can be very effective in finding the truth and im not against of it as its true,,,,but that does not means that you know 99.9% If whats going on from inside of houses of millions of filipinos...No Way! You are not sure if what they does in every minutes,,Means,,,Lets say that you "THINK" that you know all the Treasure locations nationwide as you claimed thru your extensive research, Then let me say that that .9% has survived from your treasure lists of research and it did success!...The movement of everyone in the country can never seen by anyone else! The world is moving and something is happening in every second....No one among us all knows if whats going on...
...Correction, my extensive treasure research is only on OUR TREASURE SITES, wala ako pakialam sa sites ng ibang hunters.

Tell me my good brother, among your more than 100 researched sites of yama-treasures,,,How many of it is under your control? 99% of it are not in your hands,,,means,,,you can lost it all in just a second,,,you can keep the research paper in your hands anyway and keep it safe...No offence brother but really,,,you were left behind by miles,,,So if i were you,,,better to act now and at least grab one of your site before someone will take away from you! We are getting older and why shall we not enjoy our single life!!!...1 piece of 6.2 kgs of au is more than enough to visit the world all over,,Why should you think of TONS of TONS of it while it may take your life too....Go and get one piece,,,,enjoy your life,,,then when you got bored then thats the time that you need to get back to your TONS....GOODLUCK good brother of mine....
Not all of these treasure sites is under our control, remember that most of these sites is compilation of other treasure hunter/friends sites...naturally other treasure hunters/friends are in control of their sites (parang CONSIGNEE lang kami ng sites nila ;D)  However in Luzon sites and some in Mindanao...mostly we are in control.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 12, 2009, 09:15:33 PM
Gener,

...CONTINUATION... (di pwede pag mahaba replies, naghahang)

I can agree with that proposal if all can be done and proven,,,I will be the first to raise my hand! Why not, count on me on that....but as was proposed,,it has to be proven 100%,,,We talk in businessmans way and all shall be done with no hindrance from both sides.....We can join our hands on that proposal but all has to be on very safe side both physically and financially....What Do You Think Brother Gboy???
  Proposal looks fine, but Budz had his own plan...Budz wanted to control the entire project operation, only our team are involved, NO OUTSIDERS. The funder involvement is money matters only...Pera lang ang involvement ng funder, tapos grupo na namin ang magtrabaho nyan due to confidentially at risk involve. Once we succeed, video photage will be shown to the funder, and planned for massive hauling shall commence again by our team only. ....matagal na sana natapos yan kung kasama ang funders group kaso masyado masilan si budz kasi alam na nya 100% totoo yan.
 Ganun din sa cave sites ni Cliff...gusto nya grupo lang din namin ang sasama....pera alng ang involvement ng funder....
  The funder will only see the actual gold bars, once it was hauled and transported in M. Manila for disposal. Bahala na kayo magbenta nyan basta sa treasure cave site grupo namin ang papapael dun, pag nahakot na yan at nailipat sa mga safehouse dito M. Manila kasama na ang funder group.
  I hope you understand...am just a TH companion here...Budz/Cliff is the boss of their sites.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 12, 2009, 09:20:20 PM
Maskara,

I think Gboy is conceding that he is not in control and have no power on the 100+ sites, why then all those bragging it's a total disapointment.. did Gboy took us for a ride? This totally change the scenario....
   Those 100+ sites is compilation of other treasure hunters sites, maybe 60% of those sites are our team sites...am not superman to control all those sites...Imagine Luzon, Visayas at mindanao yan...panu ko makontrol yan o power???? ano ako presidente or si yamashita? Thats why we prioritze only the best site we think of...the cave sites.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 12, 2009, 09:25:26 PM
Well then Gboy lets sit with Budz and Cliff it is useless talking with you If your role is just the messenger.
Until your Bosses will surface and communicate directly to us, all of what you said here are just hearsay.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 12, 2009, 10:45:10 PM
Bros,

I'll give my opinion based on facts, as what has been said, written and offered...before, now and in the near future. I'm trying to restrict myself not to be biased, overcome by emotion, and other negative aspects.

The offer I have given was patterned to Gboy's invitation....

1. that he have sites of caves, ready for hauling.

2. that they want to control the operation, and that they only need funding.

3. That he is in control with the sites.

Please check below if this offer conforms with Gboy statements:

A.    28 Nov 2005 @ 05:33 by Gboy @203.215.121.67 :

           xxxxxxxxxxxxxvvIf you have an exploration budget...I have a standby team ready ANYTIME NOW to guide our GUEST (YOU)...to the natives OPEN CAVE TREASURE SITES...xxxxxxx....Hurry up...the natives guidess are waiting our team on the rendezvouz point...for 3 days now...
If you want gold bar proofs before going to their treasure cave...magdala ka pambili gold bar ($100 per 6 kg for newcomer native seller)...$1,000 per 6 kg for old timer native gold seller)...why cheap? it took us 5 years of exploration to relocate these natives sellers to come down.... xxxxxxxxx
You have to bring also...life jacket for a 15 hours boat trip...and backpack for 2 weeks hike to the jungle...
OUR TEAM ARE READY... NOW....OOOOHHAAA ?.....o ano? game knb? o aatras ka at mag alibi ng kung ano-ano? gusto mo makakita ng proweba...ito na yon...xxxxxxxx.

B.    29 Nov 2005 @ 03:16 by Gboy @202.78.127.1

           Sumama ka sa amin kung gusto mo pruweba...ipakilala kita sa au holder ASAP at ipakita sayo ang treasure cave nya...pwede kapa maglupasay dun at magtitili... xxxxxxxxxx

C.    3 Feb 2006 @ 09:15 by Gboy @203.215.118.201 : gold proof?
 
xxxxxx......Do you want proof that treasure exist? I will accompany you to AU holder who owns a treasure cave/tunnel...You don't have to bring money ...however, if he can produce and show to you several orig gold bars...what now? Are you willing to bet...your balls or head?



About the site of cliffhanger:

   16 Jan 2006 @ 09:07 by Gboy @203.215.118.74 :

Cliffhanger and I have one and the same projects...if you are asking for funding from him.... SORRY...WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDS...EVEN FOR OUR OWN TREASURE PROJECTS...an tagal na nga namin namamalimos dito eh?...xxxxxxxxxx

With some of these previous and present statements in this forum, the contradictions can be easily detected.

In my conclusion, although these caves exist, Gboy haven't been in these places, haven't met the people he is mentioning, all are hearsays, and the documents he is holding are owned by other people or treasure hunters which he happens to get hold on to....in one way or another.

I hope I'm wrong with my conclusion so as not to dampen your enthusiasm....but for me, this case of treasure in cave (though it may exist)  is closed. I'll just look for someone who is really CREDIBLE to deal with.......

Angel _09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 13, 2009, 01:45:26 AM
see how difficult it is? NOT the SITE, Not the CAVE... but the people. That is the first obstacle that sometimes you cannot get through. let's just wait or not wait but see what will happen to this kind of sites, if who will benefit from it.

SOONER(others) or later(next generation) they will find it...unless... HIS destiny itself will move and put it under their noses  ;D

But if you are really interested, I could offer one of my group's site... the unfinished japanese operation. They are willing to talk with you guys, personally, willing that you join their operation and willing to hear your demands, for as long as it is built on honesty and trust...they really wanted to continue the operation because they are almost there, stopped on the face of the door to the treasure, the dynamited cracked rocks before and above the door just needs to be removed so it will be safe to open the door... this is not a joke, they want to move as soon as possible before it will be discovered by others.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 13, 2009, 02:17:09 AM
Capt. Miwa,

Is this project located in  Parai, dupax del Norte Nueva vizcaya?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 13, 2009, 02:43:44 AM
No. But it is still part of Cagayan Valley. Somewhere closer to the north. In this mountain is burried in enlarged natural caves, the treasure of several nations.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 13, 2009, 06:46:03 PM
Hello po,
anybody knows what this means? its engraved in a big boulder near a creek.
thanks for any comment.

Manong Gener/(manong frm LU), we'll go tomorow to our site to dig and get some detailed info about this sign. it was found about 50 meters below from our site.

salamat po
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 13, 2009, 07:56:17 PM
Agent_09,

You rumbled all our cave sites...from Budz, Cliff and other au holder cave sites (buy/sell)....EACH CAVE SITES HAD DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, CONDITIONS, ETC...

A.    28 Nov 2005 @ 05:33 by Gboy @203.215.121.67 :
           xxxxxxxxxxxxxvvIf you have an exploration budget...I have a standby team ready ANYTIME NOW to guide our GUEST (YOU)...to the natives OPEN CAVE TREASURE SITES...xxxxxxx....Hurry up...the natives

B.    29 Nov 2005 @ 03:16 by Gboy @202.78.127.1
           Sumama ka sa amin kung gusto mo pruweba...ipakilala kita sa au holder ASAP at ipakita sayo ang treasure cave nya...pwede kapa maglupasay dun at magtitili... xxxxxxxxxx

C.    3 Feb 2006 @ 09:15 by Gboy @203.215.118.201 : gold proof?
 xxxxxx......Do you want proof that treasure exist? I will accompany you to AU holder who owns a treasure cave/tunnel...You don't have to bring money ...however, if he can produce and show to you several orig gold bars...what now? Are you willing to bet...your balls or head?guidess are waiting our team on the rendezvouz point...for 3 days now...
If you want gold bar proofs before going to their treasure cave...magdala ka pambili gold bar ($100 per 6 kg for newcomer native seller)...$1,000 per 6 kg for old timer native gold seller)...why cheap? it took us 5 years of exploration to relocate these natives sellers to come down.... xxxxxxxxx
You have to bring also...life jacket for a 15 hours boat trip...and backpack for 2 weeks hike to the jungle...OUR TEAM ARE READY... NOW....OOOOHHAAA ?.....o ano? game knb? o aatras ka at mag alibi ng kung ano-ano? gusto mo makakita ng proweba...ito na yon...xxxxxxxx.
....

This is a BUY/SELL NEGO CHALLENGE...the native au holder wanted to sell to us some cheap gold bars...thats why anybody who wanted to challenge us to see these stockpile its available...however NOBODY ACCEPTED THE CHALLENGE....therefore these buy/sell nego DIDN'T PUSH THRU. However these cheap gold bar source is available if follow up to the area is made again.

 16 Jan 2006 @ 09:07 by Gboy @203.215.118.74 :
Cliffhanger and I have one and the same projects...if you are asking for funding from him.... SORRY...WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDS...EVEN FOR OUR OWN TREASURE PROJECTS...an tagal na nga namin namamalimos dito eh?...xxxxxxxxxx
With some of these previous and present statements in this forum, the contradictions can be easily detected.
...I don't see any contradiction here....since 2000 we started to explore cave sites, and 2005 we started to see one be one...as usal the only problem with these sites is lack of budget...Bcoz if my team is fully financially capable...YOU WILL NEVER SEE ME HERE ALREADY, COZ AM BUSY HAULING.

In my conclusion, although these caves exist, Gboy haven't been in these places, haven't met the people he is mentioning, all are hearsays, and the documents he is holding are owned by other people or treasure hunters which he happens to get hold on to....in one way or another.
   ...hehehe you are wrong again...I had seen some of Budz/Cliff cave sites I had PICTURE  with it. However due to our limited budget, some cave sites explored by Cliff and Budz only. If the budget we raised is big I usually join the exploration/survey...if the budget is small i let Budz or Cliff explore or survey it. Pag maliit budget naremedyo, bakit ka pa sasama, maliit na nga eh, yong gastos ko sa pamasehe, pambili na lang nila ng bigas...its NORMAL COMMON PRACTICE IN YTH...of budget is small, not all teammates can join ...AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

I hope I'm wrong with my conclusion so as not to dampen your enthusiasm....but for me, this case of treasure in cave (though it may exist)  is closed. I'll just look for someone who is really CREDIBLE to deal with.......of course, your conclusion is ALWAYS WRONG...I don't expect you to join me either. BTW...TIP, if you want to look for treasure caves sites...go to Mindanao there are lots of Datus there offering treasure cave sites and treasure...hehehe

Cap Miwa,
see how difficult it is? NOT the SITE, Not the CAVE... but the people. That is the first obstacle that sometimes you cannot get through. let's just wait or not wait but see what will happen to this kind of sites, if who will benefit from it.
....you are partly correct...if the big vol site involve and confiremd...STRICT CONFIDENTIALITY IS NEEDED...NOT EVERYBODY IS WELCOME DUE TO SECURITY REASON...However, if it is laborous digging site...everybody is welcome to dig.
     FYI...you know why Budz father was successfull in hauling 10,000 MT tons of gold during Marcos time?...bcoz they have their own assignment...Budz father team was assigned to recover gold from the remote site ONLY....Gen. Ver was assigned for transport....Marcos was assigned to deposit or sell it abroad. ganun diskarte nila to avoid leak...di pwede paghaluin ang magkaibang grupo, dapat iba2 ang assigment nila.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 14, 2009, 03:43:24 AM
Gboy,
Does Budz know the Top 20? or is his father part of this Top 20? if he was, then I understand his situation. He cannot just haul or take one from those sites because they are inventoried and they have to coordinate with the others before these can be brought out.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 14, 2009, 08:45:24 AM
Cap, FM is dead, FV is dead Budz father is dead so everybody is dead who owns it? nobody.

It is like a bank account all known owner is dead so if nobody owns it the bank liquidate the assets erase the record owner and it is theirs no body anymore can claim it, Every year all banks do this looking for dormant accounts if owner is unaccounted then they confiscate the bank account without any notice to relatives.

Just like the caves of GBOY nobody of his group do not own it, even the pointers can't own it they can claim its theirs but anybody can take it, it is not titled or it was not handed down to them legally to be the sole owner. Nothing is written that says the loot is theirs.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 14, 2009, 09:43:10 AM
Some people who think they are treasure hunters had became dellusional; thinking that having piece of papers that resembles treasure maps, with treasure informations, locations, affidavits, will lead them to treasures. They are using this  as lure the same way they were lured, thus years of their life are eaten slowly for nothing.
A wise treasure hunter should not make it as a way of their life. It must be a leasure for his life.
I do believe in Yamashita treasure, and had seen "some" proof of its existance....but to say that I have tons of gold in this place and that...ready for hauling, for the past 25 years is somehow beyond normal comprehension...to other people.

As Bro maskara said, nobody owns these treasure. Even the people who claims it, wherein they even don't know its exact locations....For the very simple reason: IF ANYBODY OWNS IT, THERE ARE NO REASONS WHY THEY WILL NOT HAVE IT...THEN WHY THEY CAN'T HAUL IT? Because the supposedly person who knows its location probably can't even remember where it is, or is no longer in that place, or had been dead for quite sometime and for any other reasons....
The most logical move is to use metal detectors, signs and treasure markings, learn the history of the area and start digging. Those whom I know who digged for the last 5 years are now very succesful. Those who says ready for hauling has taken 25 year, and still hauling up to now...hauling TREASURE STORIES....

LET US ALL LIVE IN REALITY...NO OFFENCE MEANT.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 14, 2009, 08:13:18 PM
Cap Miwa,
Does Budz know the Top 20? or is his father part of this Top 20? if he was, then I understand his situation. He cannot just haul or take one from those sites because they are inventoried and they have to coordinate with the others before these can be brought out.
   After EDSA revolution when his father was still alive (his dad died in 1989)...Budz and his father roam the whole Central and northern Luzon and the old man pinpointed several treasure sites...caves, burried, etc. The old man told him also that someday foriegn bankers or CIA people will visit them to give them billions of dollars they hoard during martial law days (up to now, nobody came, maybe those foriegn bank/gold cartel kept the money).....There are lots of sites, I think there is no definite top 20 (the old man capability and budz is different kasi marcos team sila kami small time hunter lang). Thats why we are the one who arrange it the top 20 after we visit the sites, analyze its difficulty, budget and etc.
    BTW...BUDZ WILL MEET ME TODAY...kabababa lang daw nya galing sa norte pero babalik agad dun.

maskara,
Cap, FM is dead, FV is dead Budz father is dead so everybody is dead who owns it? nobody.
It is like a bank account all known owner is dead so if nobody owns it the bank liquidate the assets erase the record owner and it is theirs no body anymore can claim it, Every year all banks do this looking for dormant accounts if owner is unaccounted then they confiscate the bank account without any notice to relatives.
Just like the caves of GBOY nobody of his group do not own it, even the pointers can't own it they can claim its theirs but anybody can take it, it is not titled or it was not handed down to them legally to be the sole owner. Nothing is written that says the loot is theirs.
...you are partly CORRECT....but according to Yam Treas Hunter RULE: Whoever find the treasure owns it  ;D ;D ;D

angel_09,
Some people who think they are treasure hunters had became dellusional; thinking that having piece of papers that resembles treasure maps, with treasure informations, locations, affidavits, will lead them to treasures. They are using this  as lure the same way they were lured, thus years of their life are eaten slowly for nothing.....oh no, you are wrongx3 again???? (kailan ka ba tatama?)...its not resembles a treasure map..IT IS INDEED A TREASURE MAP MY FRIEND...WE HAD 20 JAPS TREASURE MAPS SO FAR...bilib nga kanang kamay ni Seagraves, kasi ang iba kaparehas sa treasure maps copy ni Curtis/Valmores, elib??.. ;D

A wise treasure hunter should not make it as a way of their life. It must be a leasure for his life.
....ANO BA PAKIALAM MO KUNG ANO DISKARTE NAMIN SA TREASURE HUNTING, ABER????? You don't give a damm what we will do in our YTH activities, oks?

I do believe in Yamashita treasure, and had seen "some" proof of its existance....but to say that I have tons of gold in this place and that...ready for hauling, for the past 25 years is somehow beyond normal comprehension...to other people.
....OOOpppss....SORRY IF YOU ARE SOOOOO ENVIOUS OF OUR TREASURE SITES.....its a product of hardwork, extensive research and lots of explorations....oks?...Its not my fault if you have LIMITED TREASURE INFOS...

As Bro maskara said, nobody owns these treasure. Even the people who claims it, wherein they even don't know its exact locations....For the very simple reason: IF ANYBODY OWNS IT, THERE ARE NO REASONS WHY THEY WILL NOT HAVE IT...THEN WHY THEY CAN'T HAUL IT? Because the supposedly person who knows its location probably can't even remember where it is, or is no longer in that place, or had been dead for quite sometime and for any other reasons....
...You are WRONG AGAIN...when you will ever learn ha?...those treasure are for FINDERS KEEPERS....of course, we remembers those sites...I HAVE A PICTURE WITH MY FACE AND CAVE AS BACKGROUND  ;D

The most logical move is to use metal detectors, signs and treasure markings, learn the history of the area and start digging....what if your site is deeply buried..aber? how can a metal detector detect them aber (btw, am elect'c engineer i know the limitation and capabilities of metal detector, oks? )...

Those whom I know who digged for the last 5 years are now very succesful.
...NAME IT AND PROOOOOVVVEE ITTT...show some recovered treasure pictures, and lets analyze if its orig or not....I bet you can't produce one don't you?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ambotsaimo on August 14, 2009, 09:21:36 PM

this is unfu&#ng believable!

keep it up!! your fu&#ng awesome! 




Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 14, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
It makes me smile with this kind of reasonings...Please let me QUOTE your own words:

I HAVE A PICTURE WITH MY FACE AND CAVE AS BACKGROUND   GBOY

NAME IT AND PROOOOOVVVEE ITTT...show some XXXXXXXX treasure pictures, and lets analyze if its orig or not....I bet you can't produce one don't you?  GBOY

The most logical move is to use metal detectors, signs and treasure markings, learn the history of the area and start digging..Angel_09..
what if your site is deeply buried..aber? how can a metal detector detect them aber (btw, am elect'c engineer i know the limitation and capabilities of metal detector, oks? )... GBOY

 "walang pakialaman ng diskarte".  GBOY

The truth is: Gboy is not arguing with anybody....He is arguing with Himself.

We have a saying:

More talk, more mistakes.
Less talk, less mistakes.
No talk, no mistakes.

If we want others to believe us, first, we have to establish credibility. Without this, all words we will say will just past as nothing....

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 14, 2009, 11:06:04 PM
Bros MasKara, Angel_09, I beg to disagree with some part of your comments before gboy's posting. There are still sites, big sites that are still being guarded by the top 20 of marcos during this time, some are in their late 70's, 80's and are surrounded by their supporters whom they have taught and brought up during the years since marcos left and died. and they still are controlling several big sites. Why I know this? because i have contacts... i won't elaborate further because this is something not known by many and has to be kept that way.

The source of the photo of the "diet coin" is one of them. there are at least 3 among them i have contact with in different places in the Philippines but they are still in coordination with each other. Many of the original top 20 are already dead but they raised and trained somebody to succeed them and is known by the others. You might not believe it but they want it better that way...only a few knows about this and about them. 
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 14, 2009, 11:23:15 PM
I believe on that Capt. Miwa, but what is not acceptable is the fact he have no total control in these areas, and yet he advertised it to all treasure forums that these are ready for hauling.  Since 2004...

I hope you have read all the negative remarks of most forumers in different treasure forum sites. From then on, all Filipinos who start thread about Yamashita treasure are marked as scammers... Using these informations to lure other people is not acceptable....unless he will denounce that he is not a Filipino so as not to pull down other honest Filipino hunters.....

Because in international community, they are not particular about our forum's name. They are particular what country that person belongs to...and it so happen that we all belong to Philippines...Try to put thread regarding Yamashita on different thread, and you will recieve a response as a new Filipino scammer....
Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 14, 2009, 11:31:50 PM
If anybody read "The boy who cried wolf", then this whole scenario is similar.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 14, 2009, 11:50:58 PM
Bro Angel_09,
Hahaha. I agree on that. that's gboy's trademark already and in a way affects how they look at us filipinos that's why in some of my postings i also challenge gboy to show some proofs even of a few sites only to redeem his credibility. I know he has photos because i have seen them, and some of what he is telling is true but because of the many site informations he have posted and juggled or mixed with the rest, also mixing the different obstacles in different sites, the way it has presented becomes too good to be true or a hoax.

Anyway, that's gboy's style...but i tell you, when you meet this guy, he is not what you picture in the forums. More professional i believe, especially to those who already know him because that's what i saw when we met. We'll somehow, his role of scrambling informations about Yam treasure in the net and making others disbelieve it, in a way help shun away other's interest from this quest which i believe is better for the security of the filipino th.

Let's get used to him... he just adds flavor to the forum. You can still give a blow of his posting to squeeze whatever unbelievable topics he got. He just can't give it up anyway. Cheers!
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 15, 2009, 12:16:33 AM
Well, in my opinion, "MUTILATING" the integrity, identity and character of being a Filipino can't be measured in terms of monetary value. these "juggled" and "scrammbled" informations will not help each and everyone of us, on the strickest sense, and it is the same reasons that whomever were approached are becoming contributors to downgrade our national identity...and I believe that in the near future, we the filipinos will be branded as a nation of scammers, beggars and cuthtroaths...

Woe to those Filipinos who are trying their best to uplift our national identities...

But as you had mentioned, we need JOKER in this forum..to make this forum alive...and JOKER IT WILL BE, AND WILL BE TREATED AS SUCH....
unless a drastic changes will emerged. CHEERS.... ;)

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 15, 2009, 03:04:50 AM
we the filipinos will be branded as a nation of scammers, beggars and cuthtroaths...
Woe to those Filipinos who are trying their best to uplift our national identities...

since we have been discussing the upliftment of the morale of the Filipinos
try to read   "The Only Hope Of The Philippines" ......

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=20302&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

(enjoy reading (huwag lang kayong mapraning)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 15, 2009, 04:04:41 AM
We should avoid being tagged as WORLD SCAMMERS!!! that is the baddest thing and can inflict serious reputation against us all...NO ONE AMONG US HERE will be spared...they will think that we are all the same faces....Its too hard to build a good reputation but you can damaged it in just few second...recovering is very impossible then...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 15, 2009, 07:07:59 AM
THat's what happened to me when I first entered thunting.com, even fellow Pinoy TH ridiculed me, they joined foreign bloggers comenting I am another scam, a typical Pinoy making a leaving out of scamming others which of course is very offensive, but this led to a lot of us here at this site. THanks to TW for creating this site.

Gboy already explained his side regarding his postings about his 100+ sites, It will easily classify as a scam if people lost money and resources when they are not successful in the venture they entered with the team of Gboy (If ever there where) and he is right it is up to foreign or local funders to believed what is being said, they are responsible of their decision.

Just as I told Gboy before to please give a warning or better a disclaimer whenever he advertised looking for funder that treasure hunting is a gamble and hard to accomplished at their own risk to loose their investment.

Gboy said it is not his fault if they believed him or not he is not forcing anybody but the sad thing is he is letting everybody to believed that his sites are 101% real and that's the danger the line of success is thin and if he can't produced then he is alone to blame.

Anyway a lot of us here are disputing his side of story and if any funder is following the blogs then they can decide which path to take.

Sorry to those who failed  "I WARNED YOU SO".
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 15, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
Well, sad to say, it is already too late. They have branded filipinos as scammers even before most of us here came to know about these forums which started in ming, i guess. The damage has been long done and we the late comers are only feeling the remnants or the recipients of the effect.

Just as our corrupt politicians are doing to the foreigners or investors coming to our country that's why we were branded the most corrupt nation. Gentlemen, it cannot happen in our hands to clean what has been damaged to the reputation of the filipinos. It can however start within each one of us but it will not succeed when each one does not follow. If we even ourselves in this tiny sector of treasure hunting forum cannot learn to put ourselves in order, how much more the bigger and greater sectors?

Let's just learn to live with it, insulate ourselves and learn to live in an environment where there are different types of imperfect people. Afterall it is not just in our country but in every country we are into, in other words, the WHOLE WORLD IS IN SIN and we need a SAVIOR named...JESUS CHRIST! our passport to a perfect life in eternity.
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 15, 2009, 08:50:20 AM
I'm sure we can still live in harmony with each other. We just have not tried it yet. What do you think... Well, there is always a blackship in a family.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 15, 2009, 09:40:56 AM
"LET US ALL LIVE IN REALITY...NO OFFENCE MEANT."

Here's a picture of one reality failed treasure hunting.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 15, 2009, 10:26:05 AM
I just came up with a new Idea to foster our differences and build around it we will turn our negatives into a positive and constructive way. This will be a proposal that you must approved because everybody will have a role and it will be great. I'll give you all the details latter just can't do it now have a lot of things going on.

STAY SAFE EVERYBODY AND PEACE TO ALL.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 16, 2009, 12:19:22 AM
Angel_09,
   Thats the problem with you, if you run out of YTH argument you could easily branded someone as scammers....well i guess thats your safest refuge against YTH rebuttal.
   Before you branded someone as scammers, is their any victims of these alleged scammer? If no complainant or victims then the ACCUSER ITSELF IS THE SCAMMER brandishing baseless accusations w/o an iota of evidence.

maskara,
Gboy already explained his side regarding his postings about his 100+ sites, It will easily classify as a scam if people lost money and resources when they are not successful in the venture they entered with the team of Gboy (If ever there where) and he is right it is up to foreign or local funders to believed what is being said, they are responsible of their decision.
    NO COMPLAINANTS, NO VICTIMS, NO FUNDER ....THATS WHY NO SCAM....those who help us thru these years are just our YTH friends who believes of YTH, okey?

Just as I told Gboy before to please give a warning or better a disclaimer whenever he advertised looking for funder that treasure hunting is a gamble and hard to accomplished at their own risk to loose their investment....of course, I do.....thats why NO funder...only friends contribution/donations.

Gboy said it is not his fault if they believed him or not he is not forcing anybody but the sad thing is he is letting everybody to believed that his sites are 101% real and that's the danger the line of success is thin and if he can't produced then he is alone to blame.
   Of course our sites is REAL, How to recover is the only problem, oks?
   Besides, I have not heard any treasure hunter out there who admits that their site is fake...is there anyone?
   DON'T WORRY ABOUT THOSE FUNDERS WARNINGS....WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT ARE RELUCTANT, AFRAID AND NOT TRUSTING WITH THOSE ALLEGED FUNDERS, OKS? 
   Ex: When I meet an alleged funder and treasure hunter Randell Coleman. He ask for some copy of my Treasure Project studies/treas files, so that he can raise funding and finance my YTH projects. I gave him some copies. Bcoz on his own he cannot raise funds bcoz he have no files. He went abroad and raise milion pesos funds by showing my treas files to investors.
 When he came back. He never show to me again, instead he dig his own sites. Meaning he only uses my own treas files to raise funding abroad and left me with nothing. Luckily KARMA caught up with him his YTH projects are all useless dig sites....NOW WHO IS THE VICTIM HERE? Gboy !!!!
   AND THERE ARE SEVERAL ALLEGED YTH FUNDERS THAT I HAVE MET THAT ONLY INTERESTED TO HAVE SOME COPIES OF MY EXTENSIVE TREASURE FILES BUT THEY NEVER DELIVER.....THEREFORE THEY ARE THE SCAMMERS...TRYING TO STEAL HARD EARNED TREASURE RESEARCH MATERIALS/INFOS FROM ME.. It was the alleged funders who are the scammers, Gboy is the victim here. Thats why I don't easily trust anybody, even an alleged funder. 


   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 16, 2009, 01:18:53 AM
Angel_09,
   Thats the problem with you, if you run out of YTH argument you could easily branded someone as scammers....well i guess thats your safest refuge against YTH rebuttal.
   Before you branded someone as scammers, is their any victims of these alleged scammer? If no complainant or victims then the ACCUSER ITSELF IS THE SCAMMER brandishing baseless accusations w/o an iota of evidence.
Gboy

Gboy, you have to read carefully between the lines before you say that I'm accusing you as  scammer. I will copy paste again my comments for you to understand:

I believe on that Capt. Miwa, but what is not acceptable is the fact he have no total control in these areas, and yet he advertised it to all treasure forums that these are ready for hauling.  Since 2004...

I hope you have read all the negative remarks  of most forumers in different treasure forum sites. From then on, all Filipinos  who start thread about Yamashita treasure are marked as scammers... Using these informations to lure other people is not acceptable....unless he will denounce that he is not a Filipino so as not to pull down other honest Filipino hunters.....

Because in international community, they are not particular about our forum's name. They are particular what country that person belongs to...and it so happen that we all belong to Philippines...Try to put thread regarding Yamashita on different thread, and you will recieve a response as a new Filipino scammer....
Angel_09


It is not person per se...but the method and system of enticing others.....

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 16, 2009, 01:28:30 AM
I wonder if whats the difference between funding and donation! for me its simply the same as we are talking about money or material here, so still, its money where we are talking here, In businessmans way, 1 peso is worth a million if you know how to roll it! so there is no difference between 1 peso from 1 million then we cannot just ignore the word investment...A certain funder or a donation provider has to worked out how to accumulate that needed money,,he sweats,talks and even endanger his own life or end up in jail just for that reason,,,and what he gets is NO TRUST from the donation recipient....BUT STILL,,,i insist to go with your team IN SITE and let me provide that donation you required,,not a guarantee for my invested money but for my personal adventure BUT again you said that the guardian does not allow new faces??? So where should i go? whom shall i depend to? I think no one can allow himself to be a MILKING COW not unless hes an adventurists....I dont mind losing php 100,000.00 unless that i enjoyed spending it!.....................
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 16, 2009, 06:38:35 AM
Funding, donation or investment are all the same no matter how you call it, the promised of sharing is always there but promises are meant to be broken.

It's hard to trust on something when there are restrictions and rules only favorable to one side. Only fools tread the unknown.

Courage is WILL trust is FAITH, Courage and Faith put together is a virtue that every person should posses. Without one on the other Faith will not be put test and without Courage power is nothing, without power nothing will be accomplished.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 16, 2009, 06:56:50 AM
I funded all my explorations and my diggings. I provided transportation, food, equipments, etc. I was a part of it. I join the group in their hardships. Although some did not give a good result, I was happy because I enjoyed doing it. The adventure I experienced, the hardships I shared with them and the risks we all went together. It build us closer camaraderie and made us real close friends and brothers. Those are the other treasures worth more than the hidden treasures. In the end, we all are bonded stronger together and the sites we explored... we will be stronger when we get back to them!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 16, 2009, 04:47:35 PM
In my last post regarding the marker we found,
which sir Gener suggested to look for another marker,
with in the twelve feet perimeter,
this is what we found.....

I have to take picture at night since the area is within
the lot of another person, yes, I trespass.....
but what can, I do my adrenalin is high,
this is treasure hunting......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 16, 2009, 07:20:36 PM
Good luck manong Francisco, ha an nak liplipatan let me know when you start retrieval. I'll give you a good deal.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 16, 2009, 07:57:52 PM
Angel_09,

It is not person per se...but the method and system of enticing others.....
....its not the method or enticing anybody....its the difficulty of the projects (which is near impossible to succeed) that others may portray it as scam. For me its normal bcoz that is the intention of the japs...to make these treasure very difficult to recover...so that it may look scam to those who wanted to recover it. Thats why this is not a game for faint hearted or kuripot, these a game for gamblers and speculators.

Gener,

Re Funding and donation in YTH.....the word itself is different.
However for me...if you give FUNDING, you expect something in return and most likely you wanted to join and sometimes intervene in decision making bcoz you claim to be a funder...thats start some division in a YTH group or adds problem in YTH. If the project failed...most likely you blames the YTH team.
While a DONATION/CONTRIBUTION....you never expect a return, win or lose okey lang sa kanila bcoz its just a voluntary help to your YTH friends. You never insist to join and never intervene in decision making which lessens YTH problems and pressure from YTH team.

Maskara,
Funding, donation or investment are all the same no matter how you call it, the promised of sharing is always there but promises are meant to be broken....read above my views re funding or contribution.

It's hard to trust on something when there are restrictions and rules only favorable to one side. Only fools tread the unknown. ....of course its hard to trust if it is one sided....billion dollars treasure against a few hundred dollars funding. Imagine di nga nagtitiwala sa barya2 nilang ambag na pera,masyadong segurista.... kami pa kaya na alam namin na bilyones ang laman nyan magtitiwala sa kanila?

  ....We have a saying in YTH....if you want to gain the trust of our YTH team...you have to rose from the ranks and gain our trust, kasi kami matinde na rin ginastos at hirap namin dyan. We do no want to be overtaken by newcomer simply bcoz he is the new funder. Its like in a fraternity...mag umpisa ka rin sa dinaanan namin...gumastos ka muna sa project bago ka mag suggest kong ano ang gusto mo. kaya ayaw namin ng funder eh...tyak segurista yan...mas gusto namin yong nag aambag lang ng gastos.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 16, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
If the project is difficult, don't tell people it is ready for hauling. That is where deception comes in....

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 16, 2009, 10:43:59 PM
You are right Angel_09  "ready for hauling"  is a "deception"  when it's not there....he..he ..

Maskara,

that's why we are high in spirit in our digging mode,
since we know where to go ......if ever....it will materialize......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 17, 2009, 12:31:49 AM
Francisco,
 This stone looks like an X to me,,but im not sure if its an X...Dont you mind taking photos from different angles? But be careful this time!!! You may be shot at! he-he-he...thats a hell of adrenalin...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 17, 2009, 12:58:04 AM
 This stone looks like an X to me,,but im not sure if its an X...Dont you mind taking photos from different angles? But be careful this time!!! You may be shot at! he-he-he...thats a hell of adrenalin.

I will try, since its raining on this side of Halsema Highway though no typhoon yet....
at least I enjoy what I am doing taking snapshots of all the markers I encountered
for who knows we will become Gboy II.... someday....he..he ..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 17, 2009, 01:52:04 AM
Hello manong Gener/Nong frm LU,
our tunnel is South-West of the Face marker. we're still continuing our dig and still we found clay with charcoals.

manong Francisco, good luck on our sites, hope all of us will be succesful and be of help to others. I see that your site is along halsema, im from calasipan.

manong about my reply 146 (BTW, it has no dot on its top-i accidentally put the dot), do you know what it means? it was found on the edge of a small water falls, which is about 100 mts from our site. On its north is the falls and on its south is a rice field. on its east is source of the water(creek) on its west is just a plain mountain.
salamat po
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 17, 2009, 07:05:42 AM
Slider,
 Sorry ading that really i forget to answer that,
Well, that is a sign of a tunnel, It is very clear that it shows the diagram of the tunnel and if you notice a "dot" beside the 2 closed entrances, well that is the treasure..but im not sure if treasure actually and it could be something...or if its not on that location it could be hidden on the opposite side of the tunnel....Try to ask nearby if there was a tunnel on this area before because im sure,,,its blasted...The measurement of the marker you found is exactly the same as in actual at the scale 1:200 or 1 centimeter is equals to 2 meters....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 17, 2009, 10:51:57 AM
Slider you must make a very decisive analysis if you are not sure which tunnel entrance to take then try to think like the one who concealed it there, trace back in time;
1. Which path is the easiest and practical route they took when they transport it to the tunnel.
2. What are the obstacles and advantages of taking that route.
3. Why and how did they used the route.

By deduction you will avoid guessing at least. It's like in mathematics the shortest route between points is a straight line. So try to take that idea and analyzed.

The Japs will not use the hardest way and route and will make it very hard for them to transport the items to the location but it's the way they conceal and cover their tracks that makes it hard for the hunter to locate the place.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on August 17, 2009, 06:55:57 PM
Hello manong Gener and Maskara,

Thank you for your advises, yes we'll do more research about its surroundings.

Ading(little bro) slider
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 18, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
angel_09,

If the project is difficult, don't tell people it is ready for hauling. That is where deception comes in....
....You don't understand treasure hunting don't you or the curse of gold ????...EVERYTHING ABOUT GOLD IS NOT EASY, ITS DIFFCULT...EVEN IF IT IS READY FOR HAULING OR EVEN YOU ARE ALREADY HOLDING GOLD BARS.....AM JUST TOO HONEST, EVEN ITS ALREADY READY FOR HAULING, ITS STILL BE GONNA BE DIFFICULT, bcoz gold will always have endless obstacles kahit naitago muna sa bahay baka di ka pa makatulog kababantay....BESIDES IT IS NOT A DECEPTION BUT AN HONEST ADMISSION OF DIFFICULT PROJECT OR OBSTACLES.

Francisco,
You are right Angel_09  "ready for hauling"  is a "deception"  when it's not there....he..he ..
  ..of course its in there...gusto mo malika proof...baka matae ka sa sabik or inggit katulad ni angel... ;D

for who knows we will become Gboy II.... someday....he..he ..
...ok na sana gusto mo pa ako gayahin...BE AN ORIGINAL BOY !!!! ::)


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 18, 2009, 01:14:29 AM
OK, it is difficult, I agree with that; treasure hunting is not easy.

But when you say "ready for hauling", what do you mean by that?

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 18, 2009, 01:56:17 AM
Angel_09,

But when you say "ready for hauling", what do you mean by that?
...ex: an open cave site that was seen by natives assets...thus READY TO BE HAULED bcoz it was SEEN SCATTERED OR STOCKPILED INSIDE CAVE...WITH NO DIGGINGS OR TRAPS (hopefully).....BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS EASY. bcoz along the way there are lots of obstacles....baka magtraidor kasama mo, baka harangin kayo at masita, baka umulan, bumagyo or maalon, difficulty of terrain...and other endless problems and obstacles along the way....FYI, your problems doesn't end if you posseess the gold, in fact MAS LALO LUMAKI PROBLEMA MO PAG HAWAK MO NA...baka kamag-anak o kaibigan mo mismo di ka magtitiwala...konti pagkakamali...massacre pamilya mo.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 18, 2009, 02:27:43 AM
Gboy,

Are you saying (based on your different obstacles mentioned) that these golds which was seen by the native assets (not by you), which is "ready for hauling" is near to impossible to haul?

Don't you think that, as an experience T. hunter, you should have plan first all moves and contingencies prior to your "hauling activities" so that it will give credence to all whom you will approach?

With all the problems you have presented, how will you expect others to "donate" with your project, where you, yourself is entangled with all the endless problems that you envisioned, in which you don't have any solutions?

Am I wrong in interpreting that "what you need is a donation for your project without any string attached whatsoever" and in return, because of their goodwill, the donors will be rewarded for showing their good deeds.....at your grace...?
If just in case, the project didn't prosper, they have no rights to question you or ask you what has gone wrong, since you are not liable for the donations they give....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 18, 2009, 06:18:39 AM
That is why even if you will donate fundings to Gboy, the success rate is still unknown because they have not yet resolved what they will do with those problems and obstacles that they have already foreseen. Unless they resolve all those problems and obstacles, then you can say it is ready for hauling. In the meantime, you can only say, there is a stockpile available for hauling. Maybe it's more appropriate.

Slider,
Bro. gener is right with yout posting #146. That is already the map of the tunnel. I believe there are 3 access to that, the two are entrances and the third is an air shaft. While normally the main accesses are all closed down, there is usually a secret entrance, usually near the waterfalls. Try also to explore the small waterfalls for unusually arranged big stones or boulders, there might even be a mark on one of those stones. Likewise, try to look for a different plant that is not supposed to be there or not normally found there. naidumduma wenno naisabsabali ti klase na.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 18, 2009, 06:47:37 AM
I Forgot to mention that! Yes, a plant that is very different from others...their favourite is a plant bearing RED FLOWERS,,,or it could just be any flower or tree that looks strange on that place.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 18, 2009, 09:04:17 AM
Have you seen this plant or tree Slider? ag dumduma ken agmai maisa laeng nga puon. (a very lonely tree indeed) or a loner.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 18, 2009, 03:42:05 PM
In the world of treasure hunting
Gboy is now a laughing stock.....

"..ok na sana gusto mo pa ako gayahin...BE AN ORIGINAL BOY !!!!"

NOBODY can emulate gboy the great ....with all his treasure..

nobody can..
and nobody will..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 18, 2009, 07:58:51 PM
Francisco,

In the world of treasure hunting
Gboy is now a laughing stock.....
...of course not...if you read carefully thier previous post/replies and there are NO laughing emoticons .
     Bcoz thru my YTH infos/stories I easily transform them into ANGRY, ENVIOUS and CRAB MENTALITY MINDED YTH...and they are not laughing, don't yah?

Angel_09,
Are you saying (based on your different obstacles mentioned) that these golds which was seen by the native assets (not by you), which is "ready for hauling" is near to impossible to haul?
....It can be hauled alright....pag marai ka budget, marami kang plans, contingencies and etc. Pag ;imited budget mo...you have limited options. Ex: biglang maalon sa pacific area, di ka pwede maghiking via Siera jungle cross country,kasi limited budget or di ka pwede magchopper kasi limited budget nga...pero pag marami ka budget...every possible problems can be planned and solve.
 
Don't you think that, as an experience T. hunter, you should have plan first all moves and contingencies prior to your "hauling activities" so that it will give credence to all whom you will approach?...If you have a limited budget...YOU HAVE NO CONTINGENCIES PLANS...bcoz your option is limited, even if you have solution you can't do it, limited budget ka nga eh.
      ex: Budz cave site....when we went to one of budz hauling cave site, another TH group is digging. What shall we do? Nothing di naman amin lupa kaya di namin mapaalis...however if we have big budget, we coud easily BUY or LEASE the land area, and shove or paalis ang ibang treasure hunters digging beside the cave... mening if you have limited budget...you have no alternative or contengency plans.

With all the problems you have presented, how will you expect others to "donate" with your project, where you, yourself is entangled with all the endless problems that you envisioned, in which you don't have any solutions?...solution...PERA2 LANG YAN....bcoz you can have as many contingency plans availale.

Am I wrong in interpreting that "what you need is a donation for your project without any string attached whatsoever" and in return, because of their goodwill, the donors will be rewarded for showing their good deeds.....at your grace...?
....Correct...
If just in case, the project didn't prosper, they have no rights to question you or ask you what has gone wrong, since you are not liable for the donations they give.......Correct again...

Bcoz most of the funder thinks that once they gave a certain budget, all YTH problem is solve. They never realize that YTH is an endless obstacles, and sometimes their budget, no longer enough for new problem..... To avoid being blamed for those endless obstacles, we rather prefer donations than funding, para walang sisihan if a problem occurs.

Gener,
That is why even if you will donate fundings to Gboy, the success rate is still unknown because they have not yet resolved what they will do with those problems and obstacles that they have already foreseen. Unless they resolve all those problems and obstacles, then you can say it is ready for hauling. In the meantime, you can only say, there is a stockpile available for hauling. Maybe it's more appropriate....in treasaure hunting its an endless problems.

Yam Treasure hunterts,
Almost all of you here have gone into treasure hunting...some have the  most elaborate plans...contengencies and probably unlimited budget....ANG TANONG, BAKIT BOKYA PA RIN KAYO, despite of your elaborate plans and contengencies?????....ASK YOURSELVES WHY IT HAPPENED ON YOUR OWN TREASURE SITES ALSO...Hello, endless obstacles is NOT LIMITED ON MY SITES...it is also the same of all your treasure sites. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 18, 2009, 08:10:05 PM
....ASK YOURSELVES WHY IT HAPPENED ON YOUR OWN TREASURE SITES ALSO...Hello, endless obstacles is NOT LIMITED ON MY SITES...it is also the same of all your treasure sites. 
 
HE..HE.. what a pity then to all of us....

.....BUT.....

"Good Fortune Will Not Smile Upon Those Who Fold Their Cards In Surrender"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 18, 2009, 10:04:16 PM
"Yam Treasure hunterts,
Almost all of you here have gone into treasure hunting...some have the  most elaborate plans...contengencies and probably unlimited budget....ANG TANONG, BAKIT BOKYA PA RIN KAYO, despite of your elaborate plans and contengencies??....ASK YOURSELVES WHY IT HAPPENED ON YOUR OWN TREASURE SITES ALSO...Hello, endless obstacles is NOT LIMITED ON MY SITES...it is also the same of all your treasure sites. "


Yes that is true to some hunters, Gboy.....

BUT THEY NEVER ADVERTISE IN NET AND ASK MONEY TO FINANCE THEIR PROJECTS.....LIKE YOU...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kolayong on August 18, 2009, 11:23:21 PM
brothers,

this website is no longer serving its purpose and like the other yamashita treasure hunting websites infiltrated by our golden brother gboy, it will be a GBOY DEBATING FORUMS and no longer a forum for us to share the beauty of treasure hunting. are you guys not yet tired of debating to this guy in almost all forum in this website like the other websites? is this the TH forum we are looking for? until when will we realize that debating with this gboy is useless and will never be beneficial in our treasure hunting adventure.


nakakatamad na po magbasa sa mga post natin dito kasi in all forums, palagi infected ng gboy treasure stories! debate..... debate....  and debate......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 19, 2009, 12:03:54 AM
Therefore, we need to filter the Golden Gboy Virus for infecting
the image and essence of ALL  Yamashita Treasure site.....

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on August 19, 2009, 05:46:33 AM
brothers,

this website is no longer serving its purpose and like the other yamashita treasure hunting websites infiltrated by our golden brother gboy, it will be a GBOY DEBATING FORUMS and no longer a forum for us to share the beauty of treasure hunting. are you guys not yet tired of debating to this guy in almost all forum in this website like the other websites? is this the TH forum we are looking for? until when will we realize that debating with this gboy is useless and will never be beneficial in our treasure hunting adventure.


nakakatamad na po magbasa sa mga post natin dito kasi in all forums, palagi infected ng gboy treasure stories! debate..... debate....  and debate......

Kolayong is right. We're supposed to be discussing about Treasure Hunting here.. not just beating up Gboy all the time. Let him do his thing and let's not keep beating this guy up all the time. Please let's just discuss about treasure hunting if we could. Thanks!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 19, 2009, 06:12:02 AM
Kolayong is right. We're supposed to be discussing about Treasure Hunting here.. not just beating up Gboy all the time. Let him do his thing and let's not keep beating this guy up all the time. Please let's just discuss about treasure hunting if we could. Thanks!
TW

Back to business then,

I am showing a picture of a marker found near our digging,
are we near to our objective?

just asking......

francisco
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 19, 2009, 07:42:46 AM
Hi Francisco,

I will not pretend that I know it, but the way I look at it, I saw two faces...one matured face and an afraid youngster, joined together. if this is one piece, the matured face seems to hold something while the younger face tries to hide his face...afraid...As if someone is so near to them and wants to hide something.
That is how I visualize it....not meant for everybody to accept...

Angel_09
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 19, 2009, 07:43:23 AM
I would like to show also this marker found burried only a feet deep in one of our treasure sites. I can't decipher what it means. I hope you can help me. thanks. (that's the top & bottom photo of the object)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 19, 2009, 07:47:31 AM
One more thing Francisco, the matured face is smiling, and the younger face is not really afraid but startled.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on August 19, 2009, 08:00:42 AM
Capt., is this material made of hardened clay or metal? Is the size of this is 8 x 9 inches?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on August 19, 2009, 10:05:19 AM
It looks like clay to me, what ever it is for I do not know but definitely it looks like a clay footing.

Kulayong, are you taking drugs? (just kidding bro) are you saying that's like Madona and Child version. I can't visualized what you see, can you tell me what kind of stuff you sniff, I like to try it Bro. Biro lang.   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kolayong on August 19, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
Kulayong, are you taking drugs? (just kidding bro) are you saying that's like Madona and Child version. I can't visualized what you see, can you tell me what kind of stuff you sniff, I like to try it Bro. Biro lang.  

Bro Maskara,

yes i had been taking drugs for the last few days. i am somewhat sick, aggrevated by some postings. that is why my blood pressure is flactuating like a mercury rising everytime i read the post of the most intelligent treasure hunter in the internet. i am sure my blood pressure will become normal in the next few days. do you really want to try the drugs i am taking?  well i am taking a GREEN GOLD!  just boil it for a couple of minutes and drink it like a tea! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 19, 2009, 06:24:09 PM
I think this is not the proper forum to attack our fellow treasure hunters, just post and its up to the forumers to decipher
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 19, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Angel_09
Yes it approximately measures as you have said. Do you know what is it? It is a very hard and heavy clay as if mixed with iron.

Guys, let' s put our jokes in the right place, not all the time. Let's make the forum more decent and more civilized. No offense please, just my observation.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 19, 2009, 10:53:58 PM
Capmiwa,
 The marker you posted means "CLOSED DOOR AHEAD" but again, it depends if how it was layed on the ground. Is it layed like standing? or horizontal to the ground? If its standing means a closed tunnel and if it is horizontal to the ground(nakahiga) "Heavily secured hole nearby"......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 19, 2009, 10:56:26 PM
Francisco,
 I forgot,,, Im not convinced that the last image you show us is a marker, its a natural rock my friend....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 19, 2009, 11:13:03 PM
Bro Gener,
Thanks for that information. I can't remember how the one who found described it. But if i remember it right, they were already inside the tunnel and that the ground was already very hard. My memory of it might have been mixed up already with the other sites. I'll ask the information again to them. This has been brought to us only 2nd week of July this year.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 19, 2009, 11:15:22 PM
Ofcourse! this signs can be found on the tunnels only and not anywhere...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 19, 2009, 11:30:31 PM
That information is very interesting. It could be that there is a closed door or chamber ahead or below them. Wow, i'll ask the story of how they got that marker again when I go back to the site. Thanks bro. Gener. I could not wait to ask and tell them about your interpretation.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 20, 2009, 12:46:30 AM
There maybe a golden buddha on that tunnel as reflecting the form of the marker,, remember that buddha figurines are always 90 cms higher than the ground! so if its a tunnel, small markers usually found on the walls or ceiling....check very carefully about those very important tiny markers...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldenlily on August 20, 2009, 08:53:45 AM
Hi all,

We in our current in cebu have reached to 42 deep and we found sign like a wheel of a jeep stone. May i have your ideas and inputs to shed us light. Thank you.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 20, 2009, 08:14:29 PM
Angel_09,
BUT THEY NEVER ADVERTISE IN NET AND ASK MONEY TO FINANCE THEIR PROJECTS.....LIKE YOU...
...As long as I have legitimate YTH project...you should MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS....
...If you are really anti-funding YTH crusader....I HAVE NOT SEEN YOUR CRITICISM ON AMERICANS or FORIEGNERS YAM TREASURE HUNTERS WEBSITES WHO WANTED TO RAISE FUNDS or go to Phil Stock Exchange...shout there and angrily tell those people there to stop raising funds for their businessess......For me. you are just a typical ...AN ENVIOUS AND CRAB MENTALITY PINOY... 

I will not pretend that I know it, but the way I look at it, I saw two faces...one matured face and an afraid youngster, joined together. if this is one piece, the matured face seems to hold something while the younger face tries to hide his face...afraid...As if someone is so near to them and wants to hide something.
That is how I visualize it....not meant for everybody to accept...

....THis is the problem with you Angel as YTH pretenders...even an ordinary odd shape stone is imagined or visualize into 2 faces...I call it hallucination....IT WAS JUST A USELESS ODD SHAPE ROCK...PERIOD.
FYI..a treasure marker...is well carved, well defined and very2 clear...bcoz its purpose is to inform or guide...NOT TO CONFUSE OR VISUALIZE...intiendes?...nahahalata ka tuloy na walang alam sa YTH eh, palibhasa panay kritisimo lang ang alam mo pero sa YTH markers nangangapa ka..
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 21, 2009, 03:34:10 AM
....THis is the problem with you Angel as YTH pretenders...even an ordinary odd shape stone is imagined or visualize into 2 faces...I call it hallucination....IT WAS JUST A USELESS ODD SHAPE ROCK...PERIOD.
FYI..a treasure marker...is well carved, well defined and very2 clear...bcoz its purpose is to inform or guide...NOT TO CONFUSE OR VISUALIZE...intiendes?...nahahalata ka tuloy na walang alam sa YTH eh, palibhasa panay kritisimo lang ang alam mo pero sa YTH markers nangangapa ka..


Angel_09,
Thanks, I think it has to do with our site, there are plenty of them scattered around the area.

Maybe, what gboy need to see is this azimuth marker of "sayangan's"  project at km.54 in Halsema Highway....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 21, 2009, 10:21:21 AM
Can I share these markers from our site, I would appreciate very if the guys here can help me interpret... Thanx..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 21, 2009, 10:28:04 AM
Taken from a distance...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 21, 2009, 10:30:13 AM
this marker was found on top of this boulder rock...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 21, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Francisco,
Am sorry...its NOT AN AZIMUTH...its only an odd shape rock....anybody can easily produce that kind of rock.

Corel,
Sorry, Its also an odd shape rock.

Sorry guys...walang personalan ...marker comments lang...
Once you saw my rock markers...tyak iisipin nyo ganun pala ang japs markers..

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,74098.2400.html

Treasurenet, Treasure Legend, Yamashita Treasure thread
 Post# 2403 May 21,2008 (perfect Cut boulder)
 Post#2424 May 24,2008  (triangle with dot, arrow, rectangle with dot)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 21, 2009, 10:44:03 PM
Thanks Gboy.. how about these markers....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 21, 2009, 11:20:46 PM
Francisco,
 Sorry bro but even the last 3 PHOTOS are natural There is no marker resembling that figure...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 21, 2009, 11:25:56 PM
Francisco,
Am sorry...its NOT AN AZIMUTH...its only an odd shape rock....anybody can easily produce that kind of rock.


Gboy,

Thank's on your comment, so its man made then, the more sayangan's group are convinced .. that its purposely done, and there is a  reason why it's there.

Sir Gener,

Thanks also......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 22, 2009, 07:44:14 PM
Corel,
Its still an ordinary odd shape rocks...study my rock markers...its well defined and well carved...di mo na kailangan pahulaan pa.

Francisco,
NO...its not manmade, its natural...its just an ordinary odd shape rock. Anybody can produce it or find it anywhere...marami ganyan nagkalat sa tabi2. Study carefully my japs rock marker...ITS UNIQUE, WELL CARVED, WELL DEFINED....no more wild guesses if its natural or manmade. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on August 23, 2009, 12:30:48 AM
Gboy,

I should have warned the group of 'Sayangan' if i have known earlier,
so that they have not wasted their precious times in digging going to nowhere,
anyway its just a hobby to them......
I hope you have enough patience commenting on pictures we will be posting......

thanks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 23, 2009, 03:14:21 AM
Gboy,
Why don't you show your well carved markers here so it will help everybody here to learn. At least they will know what they exactly look like so they will not waste time looking at odd shaped rocks. They will not know where these markers are located anyway so it will not compromise your sites. I'm posting one here. I think they already saw this, but just the same, i'll post it...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 23, 2009, 07:58:10 PM
Francisco,

I should have warned the group of 'Sayangan' if i have known earlier,
so that they have not wasted their precious times in digging going to nowhere,
anyway its just a hobby to them......
I hope you have enough patience commenting on pictures we will be posting......

   Treasure hunting is a learning process....we too as beginers dugged up useless holes due to inaccurate or odd shape rock markers, and we learned our YTH lesson on the field the hard way also...as I have said there are NO SHORTCUT in YTH, for you to learn YTH dapat daanan nyo rin pinagdaanan namin...the hard way.

Cap Miwa,
Why don't you show your well carved markers here so it will help everybody here to learn. At least they will know what they exactly look like so they will not waste time looking at odd shaped rocks. They will not know where these markers are located anyway so it will not compromise your sites. I'm posting one here. I think they already saw this, but just the same, i'll post it...
....You have a good foot marker there alright....but if it is located in Mt. makiling...am sure charismatic devotees will pray and put candles on it..."bakat ng yapak ni kristo"   :D
....RE Japs markers....reminder: if a 5 year old child can identify its shape, most likely its clear and well carved enough to be a japs marker.
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on August 24, 2009, 02:56:40 AM
This is far from Makiling Gboy. This is near a japanese garrison in the north of the Philippines. This was found because there was a map. Besides, this is just one of a series of other markers. At least you identified it as a foot marker. Otherwise, if this is not a japanese marker to you, i will have doubts and perhaps be the reason why you learned YTH the hard way.  ;D ;D

By the way, I did not ask you to identify. I ask you to post here the markers that you have so others may see what they look like and perhaps would be helpful to them. THanks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 24, 2009, 10:44:47 PM
Cap Miwa,

This is far from Makiling Gboy.
   I know...am just wandering if the devotees of Mt. Makiling who saw carved foot prints, cross and other carved markers that they are praying into may be just japs markers after all, pag nalaman nila yon tyak wala na pupunta dun... ;D
   Re our japs markers?..I already posted some on treasurenet, i just forgot the date it was posted. No need to post my other remaining japs markers...let them find their own japs markers...the hardway also  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 25, 2009, 07:08:11 PM
Corel nice turtle head, hanapin mo yun tinuturo ng ulo, bato ulit yun , tingnan mo kung anong marker yun post mo dito...3 sides treasure yan, object cemento...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 25, 2009, 10:46:28 PM
Thanks Boylara.

We found this rock almost under a water spring which is the direction of the turtle head. Project was temporarily stop due to the soil eroded during a heavy rain. The soil like in the middle of the rock is actually a cement that conceals an X marker when it was chipped out.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 25, 2009, 11:09:41 PM
hi Corel The item is not there, look where is the longest line where that X shows..ask the old folks where are the 3 old big trees ware located..find the center of this trees and the item is there, estimated depth is 4 meters only....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 25, 2009, 11:46:44 PM
Thanks Boylara.

Operation should resume tomorrow to excavate the rock with the X marker. I have instructed my group to research where are those 3 big old trees located before, are they supposed to be in triangle formation?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 26, 2009, 04:12:14 PM
Nope in Line, look for a ravine/cliff the secret entrance is there..it is covered with boulders, never that X site, the item is not there, use only to confuse..:-0)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 26, 2009, 07:53:55 PM
Thanks BoyL.

Yup.. there were 3 big old trees before that were in line, site is between the second and third tree where we saw the boulders. It seems that this marker is related to the tree formation.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 27, 2009, 12:11:09 AM
Corel,
 why dont you make sketch of this site of yours and just put where are this marker located, facing and direction,,,we cant help you as we are confused....i need coordination with all this markers....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on August 27, 2009, 01:30:03 AM
Sir Gener,

We will be working on the sketch and post it here.

BoyLara,

Yes. There was once a ravine/cliff in the area near a Der-an tree, all the trees (two balete and a Der-an tree) are gone now but the owner of the land which is my brother-in-law is still aware where the locations are.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 27, 2009, 09:20:41 PM

TO A_B from bataan,

Kung sino ka man...bakit mo ginagamit ang "gold bar with diamonds" picture ko at pinapalabas mo na galing syo ang picture na yan? WHY YOU ARE USING MY PICTURE AS IF IT CAME FROM YOURS? I posted these picture on several YTH forums am sure you just copy that from my post. Below is post of danny Delector aka Dan manokis at umamin sya na si A_B from bataan daw nagbigay sa kanya.
 
REPLY NI DAN MANOKIS aka DANNY DELECTOR

Si a_b taga bataan.

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, GBOY <gergio2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Gboy <gergio2004@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Fw: small hoard
> To: "Danny Delector" <dannydelector@yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:08 AM
>
> galing sa akin ang gold bar at diamond picture na yan, sino
> nagkalat nyan?
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Danny Delector
> <dannydelector@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Danny Delector <dannydelector@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Fw: small hoard
> To: "Cliffhanger"
> <murakamis_gold04@yahoo.com>, "gboy"
> <gergio2004@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:16 PM
>>
> >
> > forwarded message of TH friend
> >
> > a small stolen valuable of treasure by a
> > scallawag  japanese imperial soldier was retrieve
> > only six feet
> > deep, undisclosed property and location.
> > > > loose finish diamonds kept filled up  in a green
> > seven up like bottle and one
>  12 kilo 22k
> > goldbar.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 29, 2009, 01:15:15 AM
Danny Delector is my bestfriend, and i dont think that he can make a commotion out of this,,Danny is simple man and very nice guy indeed..BUT this A_B man i dont know him in person? i simply know him giving advice in many net-forums! sometimes they called him AngBisita and he was once involved selling his own treasure booklets, he can be a chameleon anyway changing names all the time he wants.....WHO IS THIS GUY????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 29, 2009, 08:33:27 PM
Gener,

No problem with danny, I know him he is my friend. he is the one who sent the gold bar picture with diamonds, coming from A_B from batan. I assumed these guy used my gold picture to sell his YTH booklet. Thats why am reluctant to post some of my reseach materials like gold pictures and markers bcoz i know some treasure hunters might use it for their own personal purposes...baka pagkaperahan pa nila.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on August 30, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
hi everybody!
hello tony!

nice to see you guys here!

cheers!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on August 30, 2009, 12:57:34 PM
im digging in a alleged treasure site treasure site and found this buried at 6 feet deep, is this a marker telling something? please share your thoughts please, thank you!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on August 30, 2009, 07:25:57 PM
hi everybody!
hello tony!

nice to see you guys here!

cheers!

Hello Fernando and glad to see you here always.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on August 30, 2009, 07:58:03 PM
Fernando,

Whats that? I don't think its a marker...remember soil is depository of garbage of men....not all garbage or things you see underneath the soil is a treasure marker.
Before you dig, you should have seen an above ground clear japs marker, thats when you start to dig.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on August 30, 2009, 10:55:08 PM
Fernando,
 How did you know that there is treasure in that place? did you do some research at the beginning?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on August 31, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
Corel, look for the escape shaft at the ravine, it is covered with stone boulders, aproximately 5 meters from the top of the cliff....it just a small opening, enter in that tunnel than crawl for 4 meters at you will see a tunnel..follow the sign...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on September 01, 2009, 12:33:54 AM
Corel,
 why dont you make sketch of this site of yours and just put where are this marker located, facing and direction,,,we cant help you as we are confused....i need coordination with all this markers....

Here's a rough sketch of the site. Turtle head marker is on a higher elevation, basically it's on a mountain slope.

Boylara,

Let me stand corrected, it was a Der-an, Balete and Duweg tree that were in line.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on September 01, 2009, 01:00:21 AM
Boulder formation at a depth of 8 to 10 meters.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 01, 2009, 01:28:00 AM
How far is the TURTLE from here and where it was located? north?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on September 01, 2009, 01:51:38 AM
How far is the TURTLE from here and where it was located? north?

Sir Gener,

Turtle is facing East to the direction of the project site and the distance is more or less 90 to 100 yards.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on September 01, 2009, 02:00:54 AM
thank you Gboy, i will remember that.
just a little hobby gener. maybe a star with a small circle inside has a meaning in japanese treasure signs.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on September 01, 2009, 02:33:03 AM
also i ask anybody here who knows the meaning of a letter C if found buried in a treasure site and LOTS of turtle head sea stones  buried with one eye close and the other open, also lots of small little valentine hearts stones?

thank you!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 01, 2009, 02:53:12 AM
Hello to all forumers!

Today is the celebration of the hundred years of Baguio as a City where Tomuyuki Yamashita surrendered.
For the digger's of his treasures its "time out" for the meantime.

'LOTS of turtle head sea stones  buried with one eye close and the other open,'

Sir Fernanado,

We have plenty of that also, scattered around not surface but underground.
To us, it seem's its pointing to the direction of the object,
Our site is here in Cordillera......



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on September 01, 2009, 03:04:25 AM
thank you very much fransisco. good luck to your project.
maybe small valentine hearts buried is a sign of the Treasure location and not the depth is near, anyone can help?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 01, 2009, 03:56:35 AM
Heart represent "NEAR" but could be near the OPENING or near the TREASURE and watch for small but perfectly cut heart with a needle hole in it! because that means you are already THERE and TURTLE represent TRAVEL in DIRECTION in either way backside or frontal, head of turtles? NO! they are natural rocks scattered around....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on September 01, 2009, 04:08:23 AM
yes gener natural sea stone rocks but oddly in turtle heads shape with one eye close and the other open, all the sane, very odd. very many buried with valentine heart seastones small ones, thank you!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 01, 2009, 04:59:42 AM
Fernando,
 Can you up-load those photos then and allow us to peep on them... :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Tagaquezon on September 02, 2009, 04:02:31 AM
Is this a Japs marker, i found this near an open manmade tunnel about 3 ft in diameter facing the S-curve river.
Title: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 02, 2009, 06:41:23 PM
anybody who can interpret this writing, written an entrance of a cave...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 02, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
your 2nd and 3rd photos are not japanese markers nor they were done during the japanese occupation in the philippines. they are done later. it looks like the 2nd photo is the work of one of the workers of the structure or a vandal. the 3rd photo likewise is part of the structure built there. look at the concrete structure, its not the type built in ww2.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 02, 2009, 11:37:42 PM
It may be done during the war BUT NOT in the purpose of hiding a treasure but perhaps aborted construction of a bridge or any foundation structure..They are not going to make markers as bold as this one....No treasure here my friend,,,sorry.
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 02, 2009, 11:42:56 PM
Boylara,
 This is the actual meaning of your SIGN marker, Twice Protected Safety Chamber Inside the Tunnel....Where is this mr. lara?
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 04, 2009, 10:58:41 PM
Here in Cagayan, The cave where that writing is located is owned by a relative of mine... i will scan the original writings with the exact measurement....How can we locate the object?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on September 04, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
according to my grandpa that's just the aborted bridge construction in the late 1950's
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 05, 2009, 12:17:53 AM
How can we locate the object? Very good question my brother! The idea of the marker maker is to imitate the way old egyptians hid their treasures,,Study the technique how they made the chambers in giza pyramid, these marker shows that the treasure is actually underneath the tunnels existing tunnel pathways. A hidden entrance can be seen from one of its walls heading both upper the tunnel and below the tunnel. IF they hide something valuable inside of these 2 chambers, perhaps it could be the lower chamber but if its not that heavy things hidden perhaps on the upper chamber....Measuring the marker can help us to obtain the exact distance of the entrance leading to the secret chamber, engineering technique will tell its location but hidden thing here too is tricky as they may hid something well engineered! This is the site which we always thinks that treasure were commanded by a curse or spirits or whatever which is NOT! because if some mistakes during the recovery may lead it to slide on other side which mentally we thinks that spirits actually transfered or taken away! the treasure is actually on top of both slope sides rock or concrete and on a balance position...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 05, 2009, 01:29:03 AM
GOD! i hope that no one yet dig anything on this area! they will punish their pocket and a lot of useless sweats....headache for any financiers if there is?..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 06, 2009, 06:16:32 PM
Regarding my reply#86 about the stone marker, I have to go back and clean the whole stone.
I found some cracks below the X mark.
I just want to ask, if its natural or some sort of writings.....

thanks,
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 06, 2009, 06:30:59 PM
Francisco,

Sorry its not a treasure marker but ordinary cracks.

..however, if you want to, you can practice to dig or demolish these boulder. Anyway, digging practice makes perfect, right?  Para masanay magbasag2 at maghukay2 ang mga TH friends mo, oks? Kaya lang pag nalaman nila, na alam mo na, na wala palang laman, tyak gulpe ka...joke lang ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 06, 2009, 09:03:30 PM
baka hindi lang gulpe,
more than that, they are HEAD HUNTERS....  ???

 so if i will not be truthful to them :'(
thanks anyway,
at least i have something to tell them
to ease their eagerness....he he
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 07, 2009, 10:18:44 AM
Nope. they are not cracks but marks. I just don't know who marked it. :D But if you analyze it very well, it resembles different shapes. It is not however a clear marking which could be a product of several hits of a harder object on that stone.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 07, 2009, 06:04:16 PM

gud day to all!

pls help me decipher the meaning of 7C carved in a flat stone. we found this carved marker left side of the waterfalls.  thanks

gold_digger
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 07, 2009, 11:27:57 PM
Then show to us this 7C of yours my friend!!!!
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 08, 2009, 12:17:09 AM
Gener, add me... my YM boylara2002@yahoo.com
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 08, 2009, 01:29:15 AM
gener,

thanks for your reply sir gener!  we saw this 7C marker last week but unfortunately i did not able to get a pic on this coz i left my cp in the house that time. yesterday our group except me came back to that waterfalls site coz some th in our place said that the meaning of 7C is (rock enclosure treasure). our group tried to smashed this big flat boulder with 7C marker, they tried not to damage the marker but the crack made by the muel & silsil cannot be controlled thats why we broke the 7C marker without pic taken on this. we will continue smashing this boulder this weekend.

markers we saw in waterfalls, (arrow ---->),  ( big right footprint), ( face of a man), (7C), (3 steps stairs), (1 big hole, 1 small hole looks like 2 bayuhan ng palay)  pls sir enlightened me what is the meaning of this 7C marker. thanks


gold_digger

 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 08, 2009, 02:21:42 AM
markers or signs are interdependent with the other markers found together with. the actual shapes also could mean differently in every situation. some markers were also modified to mislead or to trick the finder of the marker. remember that it is the hope of those who burried the treasure or who made the marker that only them or their group or relatives will be able to know and recover it. without the actual photo of the marker, it would lead to a wrong interpretation which is dependent only to how it is described here. sometimes we also mistakenly take something we see as a marker even if it is not. so the importance of the actual photo is very crucial for a more accurate analysis and avoid unnecessary or costly operation. so to avoid this to happen, always record and photograph what you see before destroying it.

one of the meaning of the marker 7C could also be entrance to a closed treasure tunnel, an arrow without tail could mean pointing to the body of water, the right footprint may mean the spot of the treasure, a face might be looking to the treasure or giveaway or a cave in waterfalls, etc. but their meaning could vary or change depending on the accompanying markers or other circumstances on site. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 08, 2009, 06:14:05 PM
cap miwa,

thank you sir for your reply.  here is the sequence of markers we found in that site; from the middle of the river arrow without tail engraved at the top of flat stone the tip of arrow pointing to the big right foot MOL 3meters from arrow. the five toes of right foot pointing to the face of a man without hair with 2 eyes open, a nose & 2 ears & a mouth his head without hair hindi plain medyu curve then the face of a man looking to this boulder which has a 7C marker.

the markers that i said even a grade 1 pupil can easily identify this markers, its not a product of our imagination.

gold_digger
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: nana on September 10, 2009, 12:11:55 AM
Hi Guys,
 Is this a jap marker? it was found 4 feet underneath.
 If it a sign or marker what does it mean?
The location of this site is near in the beach.
 Thanks
Nana.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 10, 2009, 01:24:20 AM
Gold_digger,
 Damaging a marker is a sin in treasure hunting as similar to dumping the treasure itself! 7C cannot be just interpreted as exactly 7C as you read but it may have another unseen part of it not to become a 7c, 99% of rock signs does not contain any treasures in it as it is only a marker leading to the treasure. many times that i explained that having a marker does not mean that treasure contains it! it could be still very far at kilometers away!
THE PRESENCE OF FLOWER, METALS, PORCELAINS, or STRANGE PLANT is the assurance that treasure is just nearby...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 10, 2009, 06:39:17 PM
anyone knows what does it mean this carved stone coiled snake,and head of snake.

It seems we have the same stone marker (pic#1) with the one we have.
We found it more or less 30ft. under and from there we drift for another 12ft.
And sink for another, more or less 8ft. where we found the suspected vault....where we are at present.

the point is, it's with eyes looking at something.. :-\

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 10, 2009, 07:00:34 PM
Nope. they are not cracks but marks. I just don't know who marked it.

Sir Cap,

The Group believe you more than gboy (am not comparing) coz'
right above those markings is another sign in which Sir Gener collaborated as a treasure sign,
and if ever it would be another 'wasted days and wasted nights' then so be it.

"the more you dig, the more chances you get"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on September 11, 2009, 02:09:06 AM
about this..natural ba o marker? hehehehehehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on September 11, 2009, 02:09:49 AM
eto pa...
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: cap miwa on September 11, 2009, 11:01:22 PM
Hello fellow TH,
If you have markers you believe to be a kanji character, copy it exactly or post a picture so well try to learn and translate it according to what it means in the Kanji translation. Let's see if these suspected kanji marks match or is identified with the kanji characters or numbers.
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 12, 2009, 01:22:09 AM
Agree with that!  :o ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 12, 2009, 03:46:45 AM
Francisco,
 Lower your imagination my friend,,,It has gone too far! this last rock you posted is NATURAL!!! no such marker has made,,,check around, maybe there are true markers but not this one...
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: admin on September 12, 2009, 07:56:54 AM
Yes, Capt Miwa, that's a great idea. Maybe we can help each other here.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 12, 2009, 04:11:31 PM

I will try to look for that kind of marker a distinctive one,
so it means, we're not at the right place then,,
anyway,I will try to talk to the group and retrace our plan
and have another or different approach.

thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: nana on September 12, 2009, 08:05:53 PM
To treasure hunter,
 anyone knows what does it mean this carved stone coiled snake,and head of snake.
 found 9feet underneath,
Thank you,
Nana
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 12, 2009, 11:15:49 PM
Coiled snake-means "HERE" and a moving snake-means Follow where its heading. where this snake facing,its there you needed to proceed but are you sure that this are man-made?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: nana on September 13, 2009, 12:06:00 AM


Im sorry bro actually im not treasure hunter i dont have idea if it is a man made or natural our digger said this is man made.
     the form of this snake not moving. it will form head and coiled.
 Actually  after they removed big stone they found this marker  around 9ft, they smell bad and felt headache,itchey thier skin and weak.
Before they found this marker .......there was marker taken in just 4ft. which i  posted above.
   Do you have any idea about that? Is that a treasure marker? If you concentrate on that marker there are many engraved on it.

Well thanks brod for comment and God bless you.
 Nana
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 13, 2009, 12:24:58 AM
nothing i see that is engraved on tha stone. they are just scratches. as bro gener said, please lower your imagination. it should be a clear mark on the stone not any line or something that is not readable. let's get learned of real marks so that we will not get lost. sometimes, markers do not mean something written on it but just something that is not ordinary on that place to mark the next location. this can be confusing but that's how they made it, to really confuse us and lead us away to the real location of the treasure.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2009, 03:51:44 AM
nana,

It was just an odd shape stone...wala yan.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: nana on September 13, 2009, 12:54:49 PM
Are you sure bro ?or you dont have any idea in that marker and first time you see like that stone.
  May be....... because you dont know how to read it,,,,,,,, or you are just jealous and like you think all sign must be the same as you had.
And if it is negative our site why our digger when they reached 6ft. and 9ft they encouter the chemical which causing them felt headache,itchy and weak. Do you any idea of that?
Any way bro thankx for your comment.
Nana....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 13, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
i agree that markers should be boldy visible with your naked eye without necessarily using your imagination. as they always say, markers are bold, clear and precisely cut. i maybe posting some of the samples of markers we found in our site soon.
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: kuliglig on September 13, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
i will try to post some of the kanji marking engarved on stones within this week.

Title: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on September 13, 2009, 11:59:42 PM
This is a stone around 2.5 kilos found in one of our treasure digs somewhere in pangasinan. it was found cemented at the entrance of a vertical tunnel. we broke it since we suspected that there might be diamonds inside. what we currently have is around 1.5 kilos since the other part was taken by somebody who promised to make an assay but until now, those samples taken can no longer be recovered since the group who got the sample said they misplaced it and they are even asking for more samples. until
somebody told us that this stone belongs to the family of jade stone. can somebody here help us identify this item. are there buyers for this stone and how much will this stone cost if it is a genuine jade stone.


Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on September 14, 2009, 12:10:08 AM
We cannot easily identify this stones by looking on it not unless those precious stones experts...this can be very valuable...
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on September 14, 2009, 12:24:36 AM
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6126/img3438h.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3271/img3436h.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8138/img3432fh.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9575/img3426e.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 14, 2009, 12:44:00 AM
here are some sample of  markers gound in different sites. as they say, it is bold, clear and precisely done and you dont have to use your imagination before you can see the marker:

This is a round boulder around 1.5 meters in diameter found along the creek somewhere in Benguet
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8672/roundboulderwith4holes.jpg)

This is a face curved on a boulder along the creek in one of our site somewhere in benguet:
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/703/picture1head.jpg)

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5851/arrowheadd.jpg)
This is an arrow head or a triangle with 2 slits embossed on a wall of a big boulder. this marker is found around 3 meters infront the human face above.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2818/picture1ss.jpg)
This is another marker curved on a hard stone burried around 2 feet underground and are alined 2 feet apart. this was found in other treasure site near baguio city.


(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8951/picture2x.jpg)
Another marker found within the vicinity of those kanji characters posted above

also to those expert here, you can interpret those markers posted above since excavation are still on going on those 3 sites where this markers were found. only one site has good development as of this time so you might as well help us decode those markers.


i'll post the other markers soon.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 14, 2009, 01:10:00 AM
All this markers are very familiar with me except the top one? You did not bring me to this top marker before?....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 14, 2009, 02:16:39 AM
Sir Gener,

yap, we did not visit the site where the round boulder with 4 holes on it since it is far from baguio around 3  to 4 hours drive on rocky mountain road. there are other markers found on the area. around 200 meters following that river is a big boulder at the center of the river. the top of the boulder  is flat  with 2 holes 2 feet apart. the 1st hole is around 2.5 inches diameter and 4 inches deep while the second hole is around 2 inches diameter and 4 inches deep.

like this
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9176/2holes.jpg)

and this is found at the other side of the river at the opposite sdie of the round boulder with 4 holes
this arrow head or a triangle is found on a boulder submerge in water
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1534/arrowheada.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 14, 2009, 04:09:59 AM
Kuligligko,
 Can you shot again this arrow at little bit further distance, i mean few inches only, there are another points connected on this arrow few inches away....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 14, 2009, 06:33:09 AM
Francisco,
 Lower your imagination my friend,,,It has gone too far! this last rock you posted is NATURAL!!! no such marker has made,,,check around, maybe there are true markers but not this one...
nothing i see that is engraved on tha stone. they are just scratches. as bro gener said, please lower your imagination. it should be a clear mark on the stone not any line or something that is not readable. let's get learned of real marks so that we will not get lost. sometimes, markers do not mean something written on it but just something that is not ordinary on that place to mark the next location. this can be confusing but that's how they made it, to really confuse us and lead us away to the real location of the treasure.
i agree that markers should be boldy visible with your naked eye without necessarily using your imagination. as they always say, markers are bold, clear and precisely cut. i maybe posting some of the samples of markers we found in our site soon.

My groups are backing out with our adventure upon reading the comments of the professional treasure hunters,
they are demoralized since what we have recovered are all but 'natural stones' without any significance.

I have to explain to them that  since we are 'bagets'.....treasure hunting is not a piece of cake....
We still much have to learn with this kind of endeavor.....

This I can say.....thank you all for the advice......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 14, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
francisco bro,

i am inviting you to join our group. most of our members are from mountain province specially our diggers who came from the small scale mining industry. you will learn a lot from the group. you can meet different people with different personalities. our group meets almost everyday in the afternoon  like 5 pm onwards in one of the bar (owned by one of our member) along Otek street near veterans bank.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 14, 2009, 05:17:52 PM
Kuligligko,
 Can you shot again this arrow at little bit further distance, i mean few inches only, there are another points connected on this arrow few inches away....

Sir Gener,

i will try to shot it again one of this days when we will revisit the place.
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 14, 2009, 11:26:15 PM
Gener eto pala yun kanji...copied from the original written on a cement found at the top of the entrance of the cave..the one written in pen...thanks hope somebody can decipher this writings...
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2009, 06:43:37 AM
Gener,
How can we locate the object? Very good question my brother! The idea of the marker maker is to imitate the way old egyptians hid their treasures,,Study the technique how they made the chambers in giza pyramid, these marker shows that the treasure is actually underneath the tunnels existing tunnel pathways. A hidden entrance can be seen from one of its walls heading both upper the tunnel and below the tunnel. IF they hide something valuable inside of these 2 chambers, perhaps it could be the lower chamber but if its not that heavy things hidden perhaps on the upper chamber....Measuring the marker can help us to obtain the exact distance of the entrance leading to the secret chamber, engineering technique will tell its location but hidden thing here too is tricky as they may hid something well engineered! This is the site which we always thinks that treasure were commanded by a curse or spirits or whatever which is NOT! because if some mistakes during the recovery may lead it to slide on other side which mentally we thinks that spirits actually transfered or taken away! the treasure is actually on top of both slope sides rock or concrete and on a balance position...

You are PARTLY CORRECT about multi-level chamber....sliding concrete treasure vault and stuff.
If you dug up a concrete vault and suddenly it slides down into 2nd chamber (tinago o hinila daw ng maligno ang treasure vault). Actually the concrete vault that slides down into 2nd chamber is NOT YET THE TREASURE VAULT....hehehe, its still just a decoy (one of japs tricks). Akala nyo yon na yon ang treasure vault kasi nalaglag sa 2nd chamber...HINDE PA YON !!! You still have to demolished several 10 footer concrete multi-level chambers before you hit the actual treasure chamber. Thats why before you hit even the 2nd level 10 footer conrtete chamber...LASPAG KA NA...panu kung 8-10 multi level solid 10 footer concrete chamber hehehe? Thats why its difficult to operate multi-level treasure tunnel/chamber.

BTW: How do I know these multi-level treasure chamber?...HEHE research yan...
I have a japs treasure map that detailed the structural design of multi-level treasure chamber (big vol treasure chamber), including its color of soils, thickness of concrete, water trap, poison/bomb traps, etc....oks? :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2009, 06:58:04 AM
Francisco,

My groups are backing out with our adventure upon reading the comments of the professional treasure hunters,
they are demoralized since what we have recovered are all but 'natural stones' without any significance.
I have to explain to them that  since we are 'bagets'.....treasure hunting is not a piece of cake....
We still much have to learn with this kind of endeavor.....
This I can say.....thank you all for the advice......


RELAX... ;D....Treasure hunting is an endless learning process...and every lesson learned you are nearing to treasure target. What you have done is called...baptism of fire...hehehe. Kung ano ang dinaanan mong frustrations dinaanan din namin yan. Maybe after your 20th or 100th...frustrating, expensive treasure digging attempts...you will succeed bcoz in TREASURE HUNTING THERE IS NO SHORT CUT.
Treasure hunting is like being a business tycoon....you cannot be a tycoon overnight, its impossible, you have to do it for decades to be a tycoon...its the same with treasure hunting..its slow endless learning process....akala nyo madali at makuKuha sa sariling nyong diskarte noh?...hehehe ganyan din akala namin dati... ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 15, 2009, 07:20:48 PM
you will learn a lot from the group.
thanks kuliglig for the invitation..

...its the same with treasure hunting..its slow endless learning process....akala nyo madali at makuKuha sa sariling nyong diskarte noh?...hehehe ganyan din akala namin dati... Grin

well taken gboy..
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 01:08:10 AM
Boy,
 How deep is this tunnel? there is actually missing link on your marker, there has to be small dot on it? try to find and you will see it! with out it we cannot pinpoint the distance even you give its scale, All i know now is,,,secret access is in the left walling but the distance from the opening is not known until i can see that small dot location....
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 01:13:44 AM
Maybe--Agate or chiastolite or aventurine or zircon or tiger eye? this cannot be a jade....
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 01:17:44 AM
probably around 5x4 meters..
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 01:18:53 AM
that is just another type of rocks. hehehehehehe
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 01:20:53 AM
can you try to polish a part of it and lets see how it is when finished.
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 01:22:41 AM
that is too shallow! otherwise try to check on the left end then...
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 01:32:12 AM
that sign was embossed on the top of the entrance of the tunnel..
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 01:33:12 AM
gener ano ym mo..
Title: Signs, symbols and codes common in Yamashita Treasure burial sites
Post by: ex_mayor on September 16, 2009, 02:03:23 AM
Hi there everyone! I am a new member and I wonder if there is anybody here who would be willing to share with us signs, symbols and codes common in yamashita treasure burial sites. In a few days we will start the operation but as new , as neophytes in this undertaking we need a lot of help. So, we would really appreciate it very much if anyone could share us their knowledge. Thak you and God bless!
Title: Re: Signs, symbols and codes common in Yamashita Treasure burial sites
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 04:32:03 AM
EX MAYOR,
 Browse more here in tseact as there are thapi sign markers/codes in some forum here with complete details provided free from the administrator TonyWells...
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 04:36:18 AM
cant mention here....
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: Gener on September 16, 2009, 04:41:05 AM
is there anymore tunnel here opposite of the mountain inline with this marker? or if not tunnel maybe a cave..around MOL 200-500 meters away...
Title: Re: Signs, symbols and codes common in Yamashita Treasure burial sites
Post by: admin on September 16, 2009, 05:20:56 AM
EX MAYOR,
 Browse more here in tseact as there are thapi sign markers/codes in some forum here with complete details provided free from the administrator TonyWells...

Yes, EX Mayor, just go here; http://www.tseatc.com/Philippines.html and you can see where to download all the PDF files for that there.
Good luck!
TW
Title: Re: Signs, symbols and codes common in Yamashita Treasure burial sites
Post by: nana on September 16, 2009, 02:29:06 PM
Hey Brothers,
 Any body knows what does it mean when you reach 19ft. underneath then encounterd very hard rock 2 meters wide which has color dark and has many dotted color on it like violet, green.pink and black and the size of this dotted color is similar in human finger thumb. In the North  there is a black stone walling down on it 12inch. thick and 2 meters wide and this stone has level of color which is color green then color grey then black.
Please  i need your interpretation.
Thanks
nana
Title: Re: Signs, symbols and codes common in Yamashita Treasure burial sites
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 05:21:54 PM
Ex-Mayor, if your from the Cagayan Valley area we can help you...Welcome to the TH world..
Title: Re: Kanji Writings
Post by: boylara on September 16, 2009, 05:26:47 PM
i think there is..about your YM, add me boylara2002@yahoo.com
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 17, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
that triangle stone "could be" a marker and is pointing direction. i said "could be" because i don't see the whole picture. it is sometimes difficult to be really just looking at a single shot of picture. it has to be seen at different angles.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: cap miwa on September 17, 2009, 07:42:55 PM
that stone serves as marker going into a treasure chamber burried below. that kind of stone is also found in one of the sites deciphered by my kumpare and led them to open a thick cement chamber.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 18, 2009, 11:31:42 PM
Yes thats right! it could be a marker but it was already moved so it becomes useless! how could we know if where is the original place now?
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on September 18, 2009, 11:41:46 PM
Normally yes! true that they used this things as markers..i dont realised that at the beginning.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on September 19, 2009, 02:23:38 AM
sir capm, can you share how this stone can lead us to that thick cement slab. that tunnel openning covered by cement is what we are trying to locate at this time.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 23, 2009, 10:19:44 PM
This marker was found inserted in a boulder i'm are working with.....
is this still a directional marker?
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on September 24, 2009, 12:26:12 AM
accordingly, its a pyrope garnet. a semi precious stone. its not that valuable at all then. if this is really a marker, we are more interested on how to proceed with our diggings to find out if there are valuable items underneath.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 24, 2009, 12:31:37 AM
francisco,
 Its negative for me to say that its a marker as they looks natural rocks to me, i dont know maybe the others here may recognise it as marker..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on September 24, 2009, 06:08:41 PM
francisco,

me too, i dont consider it as a marker. as we always say, markers are bold, clear and precisely cut. no need to use your imagination to come up with an image.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: francisco on September 24, 2009, 08:23:13 PM
Once again thanks,
and sorry for bothering.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on September 25, 2009, 07:54:54 PM
Francisco that natural rock...:-) ive seen a lot those same type of rocks/soil..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 27, 2009, 12:30:04 AM
A friend of mine knows all about Yamashita Treasure and I have been with him for some time now and I have seen his sites, no need to dig as everything is stack up, ready for Hauling. The only problem is there are eyes watching and we have no money to finance the hauling and I am not talking about only one site but more than a dozen. These I tell myself, I AM NOT GREEDY, I WILL NOT HAUL ALL THAT GOLD AT ONE TIME. It Finally dawned on me that I can borrow a backpack since I do not have one and maybe  a friend will lend me his Hiking shoes and I will sneak into that cave and get maybe just THREE bars of Gold, hide it in my borrowed Backpack, sneak back out and sell those three gold bars in Meycauayan. Now I have money to finance the big haul and have enough to have an army to back me up. Well, you dirty politicians and whoever you are that has been scaring me away from the big haul, watch out, I am back and you'd better stay away or get annihilated. Why did I not think about this before. Maybe I was just too greedy to do the hauling all at one time. I got it all figured out, now, if I can only remember where that cave was and I will be all set. Whoa, darn it, the sun is already up, I had so much alcohol last night, I'll be late for work, well, the pay is lousy anyway. That was some dream, maybe I could join some treasure hunters and get real. Can any TH out there take me in , PLEASE, but mind you, no digging, I prefer caves or tunnels ready for hauling.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on September 27, 2009, 07:50:16 AM
Bro, Lakai I already sent my goons to look for GBoy we'll let him talk where those stacks and piles of gold are hidden if he will not talk then that's it, the of the tunnel for him.....hehehe.

I got you already hunting boots, military backpack, Como suits and survival kits, night vision binocular also a ready to eat meal (I got from the US marines) so that you will not starve. I'll UPS them to your place, do not forget to drop by my safe house in RP and they will give you my MP5, a 45 and a jungle bolo. A get away range rover land rover will be waiting at the foot of the mountain. When you come back we'll have cases of beer and tell me the story of your great adventure. .....If.... Gboy will quack and if he'll cooperate we'll give back all the Au bars you took from his cave to show him that we are not greedy you did it just for the adventure and fun.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 27, 2009, 10:56:39 PM
Bro Maskara, I really would appreciate your help, I can sure use that backpack and those jungle boots, the gun might come in handy, maybe I could use the machete also as there might be some snakes in the tunnel or caves. A Land Rover for a getaway vehicle, that's traveling in style, not used to that but accept my gratitude for the help you are extending to me. By the way, don't get me wrong, You mentioned somebody,Who is Gboy ?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on September 28, 2009, 10:07:47 AM
Our friend Gboy is the only guy I know who has a wide knowledge of the secret caves and he has them recorded in his journal (damn only if I can steal that journal I will be he riches man on earth) but that's difficult to get so my goons now are after him, (hide Gboy) but if we can't get him I'll better nominate him to run for Philippine President than be an enemy of the man I know will someday get us out of poverty. Mabuhay Gboy.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on September 28, 2009, 11:03:24 PM
Gboy is the Golden boy of the far east that has extensive knowledge about hidden treasures on the islands. He has many enemies and foes because of his hidden knowledges thought many of his claims are indeed authentic. he remains POOR and evasive since even him dont have actual access to his own caves but haves great contacts as he claimed...If i were you guys, better to get allied with this Gboy as you may think twice confronting him,,He may have the capability to inflict damage to his foes as he is known to be protected by elite die-hard army of disgruntled treasure hunters armed with extensive weaponry of sophistication and firepower. Im sure you may be kidding and so am i....
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on September 30, 2009, 04:18:44 AM
Kuliglig,
 Can you send me a part of this garnet stone and let me have some analise from my friends here who are experts in gem stones, ill just let them do some polishing and see its actual finished product and know its actual value. they are gem sales representatives from india and sri lanka who can turn useless stones to valuable one by just attaching it to gold/silver jewelries....it may do some help financially...
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on September 30, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
sir Gener,

yes i can send  you a sample of this. but how?
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: romblonhunter on October 03, 2009, 08:56:12 PM
Parang ganyan yung black diamonds na nakuha sa romblon 1980's... research mo sa internet ang "black diamond gems." balato naman pag black diamond nga..

Patungan mo nga ng AM FM radio, o kahit mp3 player.. kung hihinto ang mp3 player or AM radio black diamond nga yan.. sana black diamond nga yan!

tingnan mo etong links about black diamond

http://www.gemhut.com/diamondb.htm
http://www.modernjeweler.com/web/online/Diamond-Gem-Profiles/Black-Diamond/2
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 03, 2009, 09:08:17 PM
Baka ganyan din yung nakuha sa Balintocatoc, Santiago City in 2002. 2 years na naka display lang sa sala ng nakahukay, then nang ipa test ng isang naging bisita nila, the visitor just send P35,000 to the owner and says that it was a black diamond. Confirm the story with fred videz of city hall, santiago city
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on October 03, 2009, 11:37:25 PM
Kuliglig,
 Dont send to me now as im coming home soon anyway so lets just meet in baguio or you can come to my house in bambang, its just few hours travel for you as you are just nearby and have some few beer and well go back to baguio and let me have some peep on your sites!...Its negative to think that its a diamond as it looks like a mineral. if its a diamond then its very unusual to be on that area but it could be a valuable stone anyway but lets give a test first before we will jump on a conclusion..

Dindo,
 You know anyone from balintocatoc? havent heared this black diamond before? i have many good bestfriend there and a very prominent families BELAYA but havent talked about this thing, im there always everytime i visit the country...
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: romblonhunter on October 04, 2009, 12:33:59 AM
Black diamond dont look like average diamond.. But the one you shown us now, has very high probability that it is a black diamond. Black diamond is the very expensive diamond and mostly recovered by treasure hunters not knowing of its nature and value, so just stolen by people who knows.

Testing mo ng FM AM radio.. pag huminto ang tunog pagpatong mo dyan sa bato na sinabi mo, black diamond nga yan!
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: kuliglig on October 04, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
thanks for the inputs guys. we are about to sell it at a bargain price in one of the big jewelry manufacturer here in baguio. i will advise my peers not to proceed with the sale of this item. it might be valuable after all.

as you can see, there are rough cuts on the  edges of this stone in pyramid type-cuts. probably this rough cuts were done from the country of origin of this stone. by the way, this stone can make a deep scrath/scrape on tiles without leaving any scratch on this stone. we already tried it. maybe this stone can cut tiles if sharpened. its quite hard and heavy.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: romblonhunter on October 04, 2009, 08:13:35 PM
just reseach more about black diamond gems... be very cautious in dealing that stone you shown us, to avoid lifetime regret! Maybe yan na tlaga ang kymanan don sa site nyo,, all other signs are decoy..
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on October 05, 2009, 07:26:06 AM
I heard about this truck you mentioned but many people are saying many different locations there, signs are not seen on the ground so its difficult to pinpoint. people there knows these as legend, the fact that they dont know exactly the place...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: romblonhunter on October 05, 2009, 08:39:42 PM
If you dig inside a cave.. usually how deep before you can decide to stop digging?? how deep is too deep?

I have a site, with big turtle sign near the entrance of the cave on a seashore in Romblon.

At the Base of the turtle was engrave a sign "T" with two "// horizontal lines at the bottom of letter T". The turtle was looking inside the cave 10m long entrance is 1 meter away from the big turtle. Near the entrance, at the left wall was engrave an small ARMY Boots shoes pointing going inside the cave.

At the end of the cave, left wall was a CRESCENT SYMBOL engrave with BASEBALL SIZE DOT at the center.. At the ceiling was a engrave Bird head (tuka ng ibon) Pointing at the floor of the cave.. The floor of the cave was concrete 2 ft thick approx. 1mx1m wide, we already digged up to 30 ft .. and we stop. we still wonder where is the treasure in that cave??  The cave was approx, 2m wide by 1 m high 10m long.. just beside the seashore in an unpopulated area.

That was on 1998 when i was just a student, and im still thinking about that cave until now. That site was discovered by us, with 2 other student friends, because we already have the THAPI signs at that time.

Any opinions??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on October 07, 2009, 08:30:45 PM
 ::)

anyone knows what this marking is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBGnhrJbDw


tnks.. hope you boylara give me copies of your sign and symbols, i see you very reliable TH.
bisaya777@gmail.com
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on October 13, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
Hello po mga kuyas (big brothers),
 does anybody know the meaning of this sign? it is engraved in a stone, i made it bigger in my drawing so it will be clearer for us to see. located here in Trinidad,Benguet. i will post soon its actual picture.
salamat(thanks) po
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on October 13, 2009, 03:36:42 AM
Slider,
 Dot means TRAVEL so you have to find another dots! the FINEST DOT you can found will be the location of the Treasure...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on October 14, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
Thank you manong Gener, yes we will do more research about this sign.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on October 14, 2009, 12:52:58 AM
Dindo,
 If the location is balintocatoc,,we dont have problem for place to refuge. we have a lot of connections and friends in that area...
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 14, 2009, 07:56:30 PM
Gener,

As of this morning, a back hoe has been placed in the site in Balintocatoc. If you have the number of the Belaya's, better confirm the presence of the back hoe on the site. My contact there just send me an SMS this morning. My suspect is that, one of the sons of the old witness (the stubborn son) transacted with other TH because they are in a hurry.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on October 14, 2009, 10:40:30 PM
Ill check it right away....The guy is in dubai anyway and im meeting him next week!
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: Gener on October 15, 2009, 02:20:32 AM
Goons dont exists in balintocatoc anymore and even they cannot enter the place..that place is peaceful unless no one will do troubles otherwise most of the villagers will react viciously....I know them very well...
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on October 15, 2009, 03:14:16 AM
Guys,

He-he, I think HE IS THE TH CONTRACTOR.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: t_hunter44 on October 16, 2009, 02:13:35 AM
Oh well, you can't teach an old dog new tricks and he is still at it and they never relinquish the power that they used to have. I bet you the backhoe belongs to the city, even the fuel for the backhoe as he still have a lot of influence in the city hall and maybe the city engineer is still under his thumbs. He bought those backhoe for the city on his time, because of his digging projects and rumors was that he was able to recover a few sites and also rumors that the present Mayor is also on Th and  she was also able to retrieve.Rumors, how true is it, hahaha, you might know as I know you have your ears on the ground and keeping an eye on things that is happening in your area. I hope they will not get it all and I have some interest on a couple of sites behind the hill, I hope it is still there.
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: admin on October 16, 2009, 05:51:10 AM
Wow.. Dindo and T_Hunter, this is interesting information and we are all enjoy reading it! Please keep it up! Thanks!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on October 22, 2009, 03:31:13 AM
here are some sample of  markers gound in different sites. as they say, it is bold, clear and precisely done and you dont have to use your imagination before you can see the marker:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2818/picture1ss.jpg)
This is another marker curved on a hard stone burried around 2 feet underground and are alined 2 feet apart. this was found in other treasure site near baguio city.

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8951/picture2x.jpg)
Another marker found within the vicinity of those kanji characters posted above

also to those expert here, you can interpret those markers posted above since excavation are still on going on those 3 sites where this markers were found. only one site has good development as of this time so you might as well help us decode those markers.

i'll post the other markers soon.

Here's a translation of your markers engraved on the 3pcs stone. My friend happened to see it and gave me the meaning of it. So, try to verify it it will take you to the object. Thanks to him if it will lead you to the right direction. Just inform me when you get something there so I will thank him in your behalf.
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kuliglig on October 25, 2009, 07:57:38 PM
sir capm,

thanks for the interpretation. our project to where that markers were found is still pending as of this time. maybe we can operate in that area after we finish our ongoing projects.
Title: can anyone break this code?
Post by: takara on November 01, 2009, 07:30:46 PM
the place has a good history. one of the bloodest battle took place here. they occupied the place and made their last stand here. even today relatives were coming back and paying the farmers good money for the bones of japanese dead.

it looks like they intentionally cut off the tap root of the this gaint tree to retard its growth. and if you look thru its cut, yo will see another growth retard acacia tree.

first, is this japanese code? second, if it is. is it treasure code or just military trail code or something?

thanks a lot
Title: Re: can anyone break this code?
Post by: takara on November 15, 2009, 06:34:51 PM
its been quite a long long time and not one response....looks like the bright guys here dnt know anything about the marking or just witholding info.

ok il show another one. maybe you can now since its pretty easy...take a look...
your comments good or another wise is welcome ..
Title: Re: can anyone break this code?
Post by: boylara on November 15, 2009, 08:50:09 PM
hahahahaha..that is boundary marker...those markers where issued for provincial, municipal boundaries during the time of Pres. Magsaysay..not a treasure marker...
Title: Re: can anyone break this code?
Post by: t_hunter44 on November 16, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
the place has a good history. one of the bloodest battle took place here. they occupied the place and made their last stand here. even today relatives were coming back and paying the farmers good money for the bones of japanese dead.

it looks like they intentionally cut off the tap root of the this gaint tree to retard its growth. and if you look thru its cut, yo will see another growth retard acacia tree.

first, is this japanese code? second, if it is. is it treasure code or just military trail code or something?

thanks a lot
the place has a good history. one of the bloodest battle took place here. they occupied the place and made their last stand here. even today relatives were coming back and paying the farmers good money for the bones of japanese dead.

it looks like they intentionally cut off the tap root of the this gaint tree to retard its growth. and if you look thru its cut, yo will see another growth retard acacia tree.

first, is this japanese code? second, if it is. is it treasure code or just military trail code or something?

thanks a lot

Takara,

        I enlarge the photo of the tree and noticed that the leaves does not match the leaves of acacia trees.  Were you talking of a different tree that has markings and not the one posted ?
Title: Re: can anyone break this code?
Post by: takara on November 16, 2009, 03:49:59 PM
thanks for the question t-hunter44.

the tree with marking is a kulo tree, not acacia. this tree was cut in the middle forming an inverted 'v'. now, if you look thru the 'v' cut you will see the acacia tree. its about 30meters from the kulo tree.

so there are two trees, the one with the marking is the kulo tree with inverted 'v' cut on its trunk. another tree, acacia, is about 30mtrs from kulo tree.

hope i made it clear this time.
Title: Re: can anyone break this code?
Post by: t_hunter44 on November 16, 2009, 05:13:50 PM
Takara,
   Yep, Thanks
Title: what's the meaning of this marking?
Post by: bonnell on November 17, 2009, 04:05:37 AM
 naka-ukit sa bato...
Title: Re: what's the meaning of this marking?
Post by: Gener on November 17, 2009, 04:09:16 AM
The best meaning for this marker is,,,"NATURE can DO SIGNS TOO"...So leave the marker alone  ::)
Title: how about this marking?
Post by: bonnell on November 18, 2009, 03:01:43 AM
anybody can decode this marking?
Title: Re: how about this marking?
Post by: Gboy on November 18, 2009, 08:38:22 PM
Bonnell,

That is not a japs marking...its only odd shape cracks on rocks....
If you cannot identify its shape or figure...most likely its not a japs marking. Bcoz japs marking is very2 clear and well defined. japs are good stone craftsmen...magaling manglilok o mang ukit kagaya ng LAPIDA SA NITSO, oks?.
Title: Re: how about this marking?
Post by: Gener on November 18, 2009, 09:08:28 PM
Sorry, Another work of nature :'(
Title: Re: how about this marking?
Post by: boylara on November 19, 2009, 08:26:11 PM
Yea..so obvious... :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on November 25, 2009, 07:52:23 AM
hello again brothers!

found this hard wood with asphalt at 17 feet deep while digging for japanese war loots, diggers said its like a phyton head, is this a japanese buried treasure symbol?
digger saids the head points straight downward,

thanks everybody!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on November 26, 2009, 01:50:44 AM
sir Gener

pwde pa interpret.. right foot marking, size 12ft carve in a big stone direction going northEast, on the right side of this foot marking a heart marking carve on the same big stone size mga 10feet.

from the right foot marking facing North 10meters away a turtle shape stone facing East, turtle pointing to the OldTUGAS tree. with other two oldtugas tree more or less 10 meters distance each tree forming triangular.

theres a very old house near this place, that was use as shelter by jap during WWII. after the war theres evidence that there house was use by jap Soldier because of the jap left, like JAP paper money a lot of it and etc in the old house.

Sir Gener is it possible the center of triangular tugas tree, i will find more signs if i dig it? how many feet do you think i can see another posibble signs?   

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on November 26, 2009, 07:08:37 PM
Fernando,

For me,  ITS NOT A TREAS MARKER....its just one of those several dried or decayed flora or fauna you usually found underneath soil accumulated thru these years.
Its only the wild or hallucinating imagition of "sometimes" desperate treasure hunter that tried to make these ordinary objects allegedly treasure marker.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: golden boy on November 26, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
hello to all,

need help from the experts of this forum.
pic. no. 1. white rectangular stone.  91' or 93' - does it indicate deepness?
pic. no. 2. stone w. engrave
pic. no. 3. footstone (reversible left & right) w. small letter r


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on November 27, 2009, 02:42:41 AM
also i would like to ask good people here in the forum to analyse what is the meaning of this things i un earthed at 18 to 20 feet of my hole. thanks and godbless!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on November 27, 2009, 02:47:25 AM
i think this also a jewelry sign. as seen in many treasure hunting code books and as stated by our brothers in treasure hunting
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on November 27, 2009, 03:29:23 AM
Fernando,

For me,  ITS NOT A TREAS MARKER....its just one of those several dried or decayed flora or fauna you usually found underneath soil accumulated thru these years.
Its only the wild or hallucinating imagition of "sometimes" desperate treasure hunter that tried to make these ordinary objects allegedly treasure marker.
 
THANKS G BOY.
for giving me your personal opinion,point taken.as always im open to any opinions, then try to understand more..
BUT still am going to do some researches and evaluation just to deepen my understanding on JAP LOOT "BURIAL" SITES. again thanks for giving me your best shot.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on November 27, 2009, 06:47:41 PM
Fernando,

Always remember...that underneath the soil....ITS FULL OF GARBAGE...use your common sense in determining Japs marker..
Assuming in your dig pit/tunnel you saw samurai, japs guns or japs WW2 artifacts..SO WHAT, if its WW2 artifacts? it can't be sold to any ANTIQUE shop either baka tawanan ka lang ng buyer sa mga japs basura na yan. Bcoz Japs WW2 artifacts are not necessarily proof of treasures...there are millions of Japs garbage scattered all over the philippines and most of them are not japs marker they are simply called BASURA OR GARBAGE but most of time mistaken as japs marker kuno, by some treas hunters, OKS?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Edtsr on November 30, 2009, 09:49:50 PM
What is the meaning of this foot mark engraved in top of a hude boulder show below. The direction of the foot mark is south east on my compass.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 02, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
Quezon2,
 Im not sure if this is footmark, it looks very natural to me...but if its a footmark and right foot anyway,,try locating something like 50 mtrs away backward...that is not a sign of travel but "ON GUARD" as its situated on top of the boulder...

Fernando,
 Nice finds, sorry but i dont know their meanings (if there is) the pottery is chinese and its a trademark, perhaps can be considered as antique, keep them..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Edtsr on December 03, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
Sir Gener,

Thanks for the interpretation, the footmark is the left foot and 50 meters on the back of it is the Boulder River, I will check it once I got back to the site.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gus2 on December 05, 2009, 09:36:17 AM
The sign is a giant turtle (pawikan) 6' high x 4' wide, no legs expose like it's sleeping. This sign is not carved on a stone wall, it is plastered vertical with the head up about 1" thick all around. Found in the base of a dried up waterfalls. The falls is  about 90 ft high. There is also a noticeable hole about 40-50 ft above directly in line with the turtles head, coconut size hole.  Your expert analysis on the sign please. thanks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 05, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
Gus2
       When the sign is a turtle or a fish, since their natural environment is water, be assured that your target always involve water. About your coconut size hole, how deep is it ? Let the experts comment on that. My 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on December 05, 2009, 03:41:26 PM
The sign is a giant turtle (pawikan) 6' high x 4' wide, no legs expose like it's sleeping. This sign is not carved on a stone wall, it is plastered vertical with the head up about 1" thick all around. Found in the base of a dried up waterfalls. The falls is  about 90 ft high. There is also a noticeable hole about 40-50 ft above directly in line with the turtles head, coconut size hole.  Your expert analysis on the sign please. thanks.


How did you conclude that the stone (6' x 4') is a turtle, and I cant figure out what you mean by "it is plastered vertical with the head up about 1" thick all around." is that the head? 1" in a 6'x4' shell.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gus2 on December 05, 2009, 04:58:42 PM
t_hunter44.......The hole has not been explored yet since it is too high above the ground and access is quite hard.

MasKara........The turtle sign is made of cement and yes it is about 6ft high from tip of the nose to the butt and 4ft wide side to side and one inch in thickness all around and little mound on the middle just like a turtle. They put this up vertically on the vertical rock wall (like pasting something on a wall). The head is on top and the butt end is slightly above the horizontal ground.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on December 05, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
sorry for my bad english (mahirap mag ingles try to understand )

anyone know about the german stick this is 4 stick ,,  my friend used this tool  , is it accurate to find a treasure?
 to all of YTH here, can you idintefy if these  all metal we get inside the cement we break and we get all of these item....
we get all of the item in the old sugarcane mill.......they build it 1924-1927
and my location is pangasinan

these 3 metal we get these at the side on the cement at one feet
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image022-1.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image119.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image120.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image121.jpg)


and the seven locoy inside the cement i can't find the 2 locoy so in the image there only five ,, and the 3 big square and  a hole in the midle like the first one we get at the side of the cement..........
as you can see there are still cement inside the ("locoy" )


(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image118.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image117.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image123.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image124.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image125.jpg)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image122.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 05, 2009, 09:42:12 PM
I wanted to see at least photo of this alleged "TURTLE" sometimes a figure can be seen as turtle while its not....

Interesting finds there in pangasinan,,,Im sure that its an old farm as shown by this many collections of antique carabao pulled "PLOWS"....its an expert way of using that 4 -stick locator indeed,, amazing!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 05, 2009, 09:48:17 PM
Jcjibz,
       Since the location was an old sugar cane mill, are you sure that the cement you busted is not the old mill foundation, The round metal with a hole is a flat washer and the plates with holes are anchoring plates, to hold the sugar mill in place. The pointed metal objects, reminds me of my Grandpas old plow, the part that cuts into the sod and it you found it inside the concrete slab, maybe it was placed in there to make the mill foundation sturdier as maybe they are cutting corners or cutting cost, so instead of putting steel rebars to make the foundation of the mill rigid and stronger, they placed the old plow bits instead. I could be wrong but did you research on the history of your site, did the Japanese stay in that location, that would play an important factor if the Japanese stayed in that location and then, Did you ever find the Sugar Mill Foundation, maybe its the one you busted and broke. That is my analysis, take it for what it is worth. Somebody here, please comment,
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 05, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
Gener,
       It seems like we arrived to the same conclusion that those pointed metal objects is from the old plow, I remember my Grandpas plow as sometimes he lets me clean it up to remove grass and mud. When I was posting  mine, a warning was telling me to review my posting as one has been posted but I posted anyway, then I read your post, at least we were in sync.
       There you go Bro from Pangasinan, you have heard from the expert and Gener is the one.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 05, 2009, 09:59:29 PM
T44,
 Im not sure but i can sense that many accidents happened while plowing that farm as shown by this many plow horns! they may hit many times that concrete slab foundation of sugarcane miller!!!  ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 05, 2009, 10:41:55 PM
T44,
 Oh yes,, Im expecting them to find 2 more cylindrical metal tubes and perhaps many black soil or powdered charcoal!....i can still remember what we called DADAPILAN....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 06, 2009, 04:54:14 AM
Patupat! Aha! thats my favourite,,,i remember when i was a kid and they called all of us to do some "silamut".....So i hope that JcJ havent spend a lot of fortune on that old sugar mill then!....So discussions in tseact really helps! you will find the truth of this alleged markers,, well its looks like a marker of an old sugarmill after all backed by the damaged plow horns of unsuspecting farmers after the war....We could be wrong still anyway.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on December 07, 2009, 12:44:12 AM
 ;D here's a interesting website http://www.worldwar2treasure.com/current.html  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 07, 2009, 08:30:09 PM
Gener/ Dindo
       The Patupat that they have in Bannawag Norte was good. Miss the Palatipot, candy of the Barrio and the engkalte, be it be banana or papaya or coconut. They do not make them like it was then. The patupat that one can buy in the market these days is for commercial use, they are too thin, need to eat three to be satisfied.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 07, 2009, 09:39:34 PM
Inkalte? Pulitipot? ha-ha-ha! well i forgot this names long time ago! ;D their exsistence even wonder me if they are still known...Ah,, im dreaming if i can still taste them.... :'(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on December 07, 2009, 10:33:42 PM
Miss also the inuyat and inuruban, well what more can we ask, we all totally miss them all and our children will never experience these truly native and exotic delicacies.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on December 07, 2009, 11:34:35 PM
Gentleman,

He-he, something came to my mind. If in 10 years I would be retiring from the government service, I might operate the old farm of a cousin in Bannawag Norte, I might offer the PULITIPOT DE YAMASHITA, and PATUPAT KON GYERA. The by products such as SUKA DE GUERILLA and ALAK brand BARETA DE GUINTO.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 07, 2009, 11:58:11 PM
HA-HA-HA! ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on December 08, 2009, 08:54:34 AM
THat's it my friends the effect of the Yamashita, on the other forum, Pandesal de yamashita, a bakery then a treasure theme yamashita restaurant, now DB's the PULITIPOT DE YAMASHITA, and PATUPAT KON GYERA. The by products such as SUKA DE GUERILLA and ALAK brand BARETA DE GUINTO.

what's next? I like a Japonesa....
Title: Re: Help us identify this stone
Post by: bisaya on December 08, 2009, 11:23:39 PM
romblomThunter

you stated that a black diamond, when a AM/FM radio put above the black diamond it will stop functioning? how's that happening sir? 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 09, 2009, 12:33:14 AM
Japonesa?? eto!
 Philippine based japanese restaurant:
Best Menu:
 1. Kiniraw kuros (shrimp salad)
 2. Kurita Piniritu (fried squid)
 3. Inararu se tutung (smashed overcooked rice)
 4. Sashimi Duriken ( fresh raw river conc shells)
 5. Asomo Kirawin ( raw BAW-WAW-WAW skin)  :P
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on December 09, 2009, 01:00:51 AM
LOL :D :D

Gener,

The last one is d' best..'.asomo kirawin' basta 'wara garis' ;D ;D ;D.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 09, 2009, 01:25:01 AM
Gener, item nunber 5, Asomo Kirawen. Reminds me of a Mayor visiting one of his Barangays. The Barangay Captain was trying to make points so he prepared Aw-Aw for the Mayor. The Mayor was thrilled as aso is his favorite. He asked the Barangay Captain if the Aso was good, the reply that he got, Mayor, it is even Double Good..........in Ilocano, GudGud ;D ;D ;D Gotcha !!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 09, 2009, 01:56:45 AM
Gee-nood-good!,,,Well they may finished it easily as there is no more furs to remove...I wonder if their stomach did not get itchy!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 09, 2009, 02:04:03 AM
Im dying laughing here when i read that "wara garis" my stomach got very painful ; good japanese words D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 11, 2009, 12:10:42 AM
Adda gayam kadwak nga kumakarne iti aw aw ditoy! hehehe.. I feel like i belong here so i am hoping that i am welcome to this forum..magandang araw po sa ating lahat...

goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on December 11, 2009, 07:32:06 AM
Adda gayam kadwak nga kumakarne iti aw aw ditoy! hehehe.. I feel like i belong here so i am hoping that i am welcome to this forum..magandang araw po sa ating lahat...

goldfish

Goldfish,
Of course you're most welcome here on TSEATC! We really enjoy to have you here with us. Feel free to chat with us about anything!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on December 11, 2009, 07:38:59 AM
Diyos ti ag ngina bro GoldF, you are more than welcome have a great forum
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gus2 on December 11, 2009, 09:32:07 AM
Can some of the experts here tell me about this sign/symbol means. We all know that an arrow points to a direction or so called pointer, what about an "EYE". I have look at the THAPI TREASURE HUNTING MARKINGS, SIGNS, CODES & SYMBOLS and there is no meaning of this symbol we have encountered. Could this be a signature of the individual or could it be a sign of danger ahead, a warning? Our diggers came about this piece of man made cement molded into a rock shape almost triangular in shape with the "arrow" on one side and the other side is this "eye" engraved. We just wanted to know what it means. thank you.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 11, 2009, 06:36:25 PM
Thanks you sirs for the warm welcome...i've been into other forums too but a few forumers are not friendly and theyre sometimes rude..which makes me want to act the same...sorry for those posts...I am learning from all of you lalo ta dakayo ti adu ti padas na...i will also post my progress here for sharing and learning purposes...

iyaman,
goldfish :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 12, 2009, 12:20:33 PM
guys help me decipher this sign, we saw this sign 1 meter underneath X with a dot on the top. thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 12, 2009, 10:42:15 PM
Give the direction how this mark found, slanting, horizon, north, rock, wood or more details....any small dot found beside it?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 13, 2009, 02:44:09 AM
Hello Sir(s), god day to everyone...Please help me too with these markings found on a rock...I am a newbie, and don't have much knowledge on marks and sign, and i find it a need to solicit from all of you...Patulong man pls...A blast made a crack on the rock where the amrks were made, and it relealed that the circle we saw at the surface of the rock are actually piles of rocks, obviously man-made and circular in shape...Why the two arrows? And what does the seemingly # sign indicate? ..It is not actually a number sign since it is slanting, so to form a diamond shape...These markers are found on an almost dried up river... Also, the marks are found on one same rock, and the positions are illustrated on the sketch below...I am sorry i did not post an actual picture because my computer bagged down, reformatted, and the files gone...I could take another picture though when i return to the site, but i hope the sketch below would be okay for now...Help pls...sir Gener, Sir Maskara, and everyone...

Iyaman,
goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 13, 2009, 02:47:54 AM
Same file as posted before this mesasge, just in case you cannot open the file in your computers... :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 13, 2009, 04:19:43 AM
Cant read this, you upload it with very small filing....increase the size pls mr. balitoclames
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 13, 2009, 06:21:53 AM
Sir Gener, here's another file... :)...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 13, 2009, 10:18:41 PM
CIRCLE-means "SPOT"
ARROWS-means Head straight 3 mts then divert to left(opposite of smaller arrow) But what is the position of this markers when found??? if standing then go down,,,,if flat to ground then horizontal....You should be careful in moving a marker take photo first or sketch and document all their actual position and compositions....this causes big trouble if not listed well...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 12:36:56 AM
Hello Sir Gener,
thank you so much for replying really quick...the markers are horizontal to the river surface, so its not in standing position...regarding the arrows, we'll follow the smaller arrow first, moving 3 meters towards its pointing direction, then move 90 degrees to the left. (Did i get it right sir?) ..Upon diverting to the left, how far shall we proceed? We will hit the riverside when we divert to the left...and the rock on the riverside has covered the original path of the water flow, as though the water was a bit diverged. Sir Gener,  the riverbed is composed of piles of flat rocks, with different thickness. In relation to the piles of rock circles, does it mean that we will remove 6 piles of rocks from the riverbed and reach the deposit on the 7th level? Notice that the 6 pile of circles are sitting on a bowl-shaped man-made stone.

Sir, any idea too regarding the diamond shape marker?

Thank you sir for helping us willingly. I will keep you posted, and i hope to thank you too in kind someday or soon...

goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 14, 2009, 12:53:46 AM
Oh! I forgot that triangle yes-means "UNDERWATER" its not a triangle,,,its a FISH!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 05:01:32 AM
Hello Sir Gener,

Wow, it never went to my mind that the diamond figure is a fish!  :)...yes, it does perfectly resemble the main shape of a fish...thank you sir for your continuous help and sincere reply.,,in case you have further information to share regarding the marks, please share it to us again...

mr balitoclames....
goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 05:35:29 AM
CIRCLE-means "SPOT"
ARROWS-means Head straight 3 mts then divert to left(opposite of smaller arrow) But what is the position of this markers when found??? if standing then go down,,,,if flat to ground then horizontal....You should be careful in moving a marker take photo first or sketch and document all their actual position and compositions....this causes big trouble if not listed well...
ARROWS-means Head straight 3 mts then divert to left(opposite of smaller arrow)

Sir Gener, ive been reading your reply a lot to be sure i understood it well...i think i mis understtod it the first time...Do you mean we will follow the longer arrow first, three meters straight, then move to the left opposite of the smaller arrow? Sorry for not being able to understand clearly sir, but i need again your comment if i now understand what you meant correctly... :-\

mr balitoclames
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 14, 2009, 05:55:24 AM
Wen kabsat, suruten yo tay at-attiddug nga arrow iti innem nga askaw wenno metro, kitaem manen ta marker ket agturung kayo iti bangir dayta ab-abbaba nga arrow ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 06:27:31 AM
weh, dayta a manong, agparparigatak apy nga ag english ket.. ;)..okay, 6 nga askaw? but you said its 3 meters in your first message sir...3 meters? or 6 meters ngata?... :-\
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 14, 2009, 06:29:11 AM
Agtutuglepak ngamin 3 gayam!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 06:31:24 AM
Got it!! Ayus sir! manong! uncle! hehe...salamat launay...will keep you posted.... :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on December 14, 2009, 06:36:28 AM
Sir Gener, what about ngata the 6 piles of circular stones? i am thinking that we also dig down and remove 6 layers of rocks on the riverbed...Isu ngata? (Sorry, i am cautious in posting english, somebody myt criticize me if i post in other language)...Though i think the puzzle has become clearer now...Its been over a year that i am trying to know what the markers mean...

Salamat launay,
mr balitoclames
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 28, 2009, 10:19:54 AM
GOOD DAY! hi guys i just wanna ask if this stone is a japanese treasure signs, as you can see in the picture below there is an X with dot on top. if it is a japanese marking what is the meaning of it. thanks.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 28, 2009, 10:22:14 AM
another view of the same stone.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 28, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
just ignore the number 6 mark we intentionaly put that. thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on December 28, 2009, 09:11:11 PM
sorry goldbar69. that doesn't look like a marker to me.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 28, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Aubar,
 It doesnt make any sense my brother, those are natural occured lines as backed by many other lines, its not deceiving anymore as to consider its size and form. ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 28, 2009, 10:00:44 PM
guys thanks for those comments it really helps..anyway we have this stone also in our farm (see below) please tell me if you see something. our farm was japanese hiding place during 2nd world war, lately we discovered hidden live century bombs and some unidentified gas went off near our river. more pictures to come..many thanks!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 29, 2009, 04:12:17 AM
Au69,
 No3 is similar as No6! try to differ the rocks around or nearby, they have similarities, means if you analize well, the area was formerly flown by lava many million years ago, those spots like round markers are done by bubbles caused of the pressured heated oxygen thus leaving those form. And those root-like lines are actually a moulds from prehistoric trees washed-up by the flow of boiling lava..If in case that treasure is hidden here, learn how it was differ from natural, if indeed they used natural markers to hide something, observe the sequences of rock formation from distances, there has to be coordinations between them... :-\
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on December 29, 2009, 06:55:49 AM
Goldbar69,

Stone no.3 seems different. I checked with magnifying glass and the outer portion is like a shell, The way I saw it, there is something inside. Check it out bros.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 29, 2009, 09:18:29 AM
gener

good day sir, thanks for your opinions and sugestions, deeply appreciated.


angel_o9

ok, we will try to break it up if there is something unusual inside..more photos to come from same site. hope you guys continue to analyze ang give comments on my posts and photos.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 29, 2009, 09:31:40 AM
guys, here's another boulder looks different from others, (see below), is that foot print on the right side of the boulder? if it was, what is the meaning? many thanks!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 29, 2009, 09:32:43 AM
this boulder.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on December 29, 2009, 11:23:56 AM
Goldbars69,

Check your picture with no.3. If possible use a magnifying glas and you will notice what I have said.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on December 29, 2009, 05:44:14 PM
Goldbars69,

Sorry, it looks ordinary rock boulder to me...an original Japs rock marker are well defined, well carved, and can easily be identified by a 5 year old kid, no wild guesses...KLARO2, not confusing...

See my Japs rock boulder marker HEART OF VALENCIA in Treasurenet forum, post #1806, Sept.27,2007
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,74098.1800.html

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on December 29, 2009, 06:09:44 PM
Goldbars69,

Check your picture with no.3. If possible use a magnifying glas and you will notice what I have said.
Angel_09,
         Try using dowsing on No.3 rock and if you have the gift of dowsing, it will give you an answer. Dowsing has unlimited capabilities, not limited to a distance of a few meters, one will be a continent away and would still come up with plausible answers. Ever heard of map dowsing, it does work and also it has limitless potential, can look for water, metals, gems, people, what ails a person and much more, one can even ask if a persons character, like, can he be trusted. The rocks or boulders posted are not markers, they are just natural rocks. If you see footprints, left or right, there will be no mistake as the prints is very clearly defined. Most markers that I have seen is clearly defined, be it be a footprint, a palm of the hand, an eye or an X or a hole, that is why I salute the Japanese as they are really experts on stone craft. One can almost say they etched those markers with laser but laser was just fiction at that time.
         My 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on December 29, 2009, 06:28:09 PM
T_hunter 44,

Sorry, I don't practice map dowsing, and I don't believe about. I believe to something if it can be explained logically, technically, scientifically and actually, other than that, it is all hype.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on December 29, 2009, 09:26:14 PM
TRUE,,,A japanese marker is WELL DEFINED and most of the time is WORK OF ART as it reflects the value of the hidden thing! Its trully amazing how they made those markers in perfect fine etching while those days,,,they may not have access to sophisticated tools! like "LAZER"....I guess if you are a newbie treasure hunter then you need to have an actual training from VETERAN treasure hunters just to study the real markers perhaps can show you one in actual...from that you will realise and differentiate the natural from real. Its a "must be" TH policy as we all know how expensive digging is...you may end up digging your whole life for nothing!!!! ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on December 30, 2009, 12:23:03 AM
Goldbars69,

1) Another well defined and well carved japs marker on solid rock cliffwall....
    SMILING FACES ON CLIFFWALL...
The difficulty of carving on these cliffwall...is indeed amazing or work of art.
Treasurenet post #1843 , dated Sept.23 2007
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,74098.1800.html

2) PERFECT CUT BOULDER.....how these "bus size" boulder was cut into two?...is still beyond my imagination. Maliit nga na bato ang hirap lagaiin, yan pa kaya? Ano ginamit dyan...50 footer circular saw?
Treasurenet post # 2403, dated May 21, 2008
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,74098.2400.html

3) TRIANGLE, ARROW AND RECTANGLE carved on rock boulder.
BTW, isn't it that rectangle with dot ...means treasure inside?  ;D
Treasurenet post # 2424, May 24, 2008
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,74098.2400.html

These are just a few sample of our several Japs rock treasure marker we documented.
It should be well defined...well carved...and can easily be identified even by a 5-yr old kid, meaning no wild guesses. oks?  :-*

 


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on December 30, 2009, 01:35:45 AM
angel_o9, Gboy, Gener,

thanks for your comment guys it helps alot specialy us newbie, really i dont have much knowledge regarding treasure hunting and sorting those rocks from nature to man-made. MANY thanks!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on January 09, 2010, 10:50:29 PM
GOOD DAY TO ALL OF YTH

I WANNA ASK IF SOMEONE HERE USE A GADGET CALLED "PMRIII"
IS THIS GADGET CAN LOCATE THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE BURIAL SITE OFYAMSHITA'S TREASURE????...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D THANKS MORE POWER TO ALL OF YOU
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 10, 2010, 01:44:48 AM
Have seen many in the philippines using PMR-3 dowsing rod but i havent heard anyone from there yet if some of them are successful....But they are proving to me that its a very effective rod indeed...its chamber can actually contain the classification of what you are searching.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on January 10, 2010, 02:30:43 AM
my old friend yth scan our land he tell us it was possitive of burial site of YT he tried a sample of gold, diamond, silver, and even a poison is positive, when he walk into the centre of the site the pmrIII move like an electricfan .....i am asking for a 2nd opinion... is it realy work for finding a burried treasure
the pmrIII lead us into the two cemented rock not that realy big, and the shape of two stone square and triangle but  not like perfect shape... and my father told us in that location a century big mango. ,but the mango died a long time ago....



thanks "pasensyahan nio nlng english ko"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 10, 2010, 07:11:43 AM
Gentlemen,

    PMRIII is a type of dowsing...in my own opinion it DOESN'T WORK...its moves to left or right bcoz of gravity pull like any other dowsing. If you lean (slight degree) to the left, then it moves to the left. If you lean slightly to the right, then it moves to the right.....that's how it works. Some dowser allegedly find some gold nuggets thru dowsing..How it happen?...simple they are standing on highly mineralized soil, meaning even w/o dowsing...just using plate and water (like gold panning) they can still find gold nuggets, thats the explanation of it.
   Some of you might be dowsing fanatics...why don't you test it yourself scientifically, get a dowsing rod (PMR)....get 10 plastic cup, overturned it and put it on straight line one meter apart...one cup had gold ring....the other 9 cups had none. Then test your dowsing (PMRIII) if it can detect the plastic cup with gold ring......99.99% it will fail.
   Decade ago, there was a US show for "US$100,000 challenge"....anybody who can prove that dowsing works can get the price of US$100K....all the best dowser around the world tried it live on US TV...all failed.... ;D  ....lahat na pinakamagagaling na dowser sa buong mundo...NAPAHIYA.. ;D ;D
   Almost all treasure hunter tried it here...99.99% NAGKALASPAG2 AT NAPURDOY...0.01%...nakatsamba,, ;D. However, if you have an TH eqp't (dowsing) with 0.01% accuracy ... segurado purdoy ka na ngayon at ginulpe ka na ng esmi mo ... ;D
    Of course...thats my one cent opinion....you can try it if you want, wala naman pumipigil sa inyo eh, malay nyo nakatsamba nga naman  ;D


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 10, 2010, 01:37:39 PM
Gboy,

Wow.. that was a good post! I like that. Thanks for informing us about all of that and it looks like that US TV show at least proved that all the dowsers who were there on that show could not perform. Not to say that ALL dowsers can't perform.. just the one's who accepted that $100k challenge could not perform. Wish they would make another program once again to challenge any good world-wide dowsers to see how good they are.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 10, 2010, 02:09:47 PM
Kudos to bro GBoy, if you would like to test somebody else dowsing equipment or metal detector, invite them on some place or at some inconspicuous location (not at your proj. site) but before you conduct the test bury some gold metals about 1 foot deep or less in 2 places 7 meters apart then ask them to scan the area starting 14 meters away from your buried gold metals let them sweat their ass out to test their ability.

I've done this testing many times sometimes in my own backyard and not even burying any gold metals. I do this test specially to the dowsers who use German sticks or any other type of rod and sometimes to metal detector user.
I tell them a story about a missing well somewhere in my backyard and from that story they start their dowsing or detecting process, they come out with even bigger story pointing to spot they detected but never single one of them found what I buried and not knowing that the location is empty and the story is just made up.

After a while your place become a legend TH come and go to your place believing that there is really something big out there, suddenly TH knock at your door begging to scan, dowse and dig your back yard some even suggested to dig a tunnel going underneath your house. Even some old folks joined in from nearby places, they hang outside your property telling stories during Japanese time that they were there when the Japs sneak in some 2 or 3 small drums in a well that was there before. The story was like a wild fire it spread attracting TH from as far as the North and up to Isabela. But I never allowed anybody to dig. I only use this place for field testing and never did anybody ask a single centavo.

One day some 10 years ago an old guy from up far north suddenly appeared with treasure map, he convinced my uncle that there is something in his property (I was long gone in that place when this happened) they dig his front yard they said they found the marker, then they tunneled under his living room after milking my uncle with his life savings they ran away. I was furious why he fell from their scam I got the guys CP# invited him to see my place but he sense that he will not survive if he will do it. We just exchange some bad word and warned him not to venture in our province. My uncle never recovered from that incident he died a pauper and almost lost his house.

I realized latter I created chaos in our town many TH come and go, neighboring property have their own stories, Catholic and Aglipay (the first Aglipayan church in RP) Church, Elem. School and High School our town plaza was not spared, our town Mayor and others have their own sites to dig. And worst of all the ancestral home of my lolo was bulldozed the old Spanish house and 2 big ware house was gone completely, people told me that the Provincial Engineer and the town Mayor sent gov't heavy equipment to dig the entire property, they dynamited the underground tunnels and left nothing standing.

Our property, the ancestral house my uncle's is all located strategically with the town plaza in the center, North is the 2- Elem school, East are 3 big properties with spanish houses, South is our property and the Municipal Bldg. and West is the big property of our ancestral home. All these properties was captured by the Japanese our house was said to be the gambling house of the Japs, the ancestral home with 2 big warehouse became the head quarter and prison house.

The bottom line guys, from many many years past specially after 1986 a lot of fairy tales stories came out it spilled in the country side, during the 70's you can't hear a whisper of YamTres then early 80's mountain tribes join the frey, after APO FM over throw it became free for all, I was even amaze people as young as 14 years to 25 suddenly became an expert. At early 1990's Metro Manila became the breeding ground of scammers coffee shops and malls was their favorite ground. Then mid to early 2000's Fake Gold bars surface, legendary tunnels full of gold became the story, scammers spread out reaching Pangasinan to Batangas, and from then it became a fever that it spread all over the country.

I met a lot of these early scammers in coffee shops and corner malls from Pangasinan, Tarlac, Pampanga, Cavite and Batangas I met them face to face, some where military and even met Datus from Mindanao offering their caves full of Gold.

As I can see from forum to forum a third generation of TH is creeping up. More sophisticated than the previous but most or almost all of them lack common sense and very aggressive.

Just what I have narrated tell a story and these 3rd Gen TH will come swarming like flies.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 10, 2010, 08:35:22 PM
Admin,

If i remember it right...that US show $100K challenge is not only about dowsing....its a challenge of any paranormal/magician activities...like psychic, spoon bending like Uri Geller, spirit talker or medium, escape artist like Houdini style....ALL OF THEM FAILED in front of live audience. 

EX:
1) Dowsing using twig that allegedly detect water?
    The organizer on the show provided on the stage in front of live audience...10 small boxes, aligned and separated one meter apart....one of those box had a gallon of water. The challenge is to detect water inside the box for 3 attempts. I think there was 5 dowser around the world......all of them busted on the spot after failing to find the water inside the box after 3 attempts.

2) Psychic Key challenge,
    The organizer put a door with a doorknob and there are 10 keys on the table. The challenge is for the alleged "psychic" to pick the right key and open the door. And they are only allowed 3 attempts or 3 picks. Some psychics.... smell, touch and meditate for each key so that they can pick the right key.....among 5 alleged psychics contestant....ALL OF THEM BUSTED ON TV.

3) I think there are other challenges like that of Uri Geller , spoon bending....chained on the body like that of Houdini, some spirit mediums who can allegedly talk to spirits....ALL OF THEM BUSTED....$100k was not taken.

I think the show was the same also with Randi $1 million paranormal challenge, but it was shown i think in 1990's.
http://www.skepdic.com/randi.html





Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 10, 2010, 09:56:20 PM
I heard about that dowsing program failures and that will make many of us to THINK TWICE using this methods...it may work to few but not to many...
***There was a story,,,a great indian magician,,he can actually transfer the water from glass to glass with out touching it, so you can see the glasses moving on its own..then there was a challenge from a simple man and promised that he will give all his possessions if this magician can move that water from glass to glass infront of him,,,,The challenge was accepted...But before the magician will perform his tricks, the simple man shouted,,,In the name of my saviour JESUS CHRIST this glasses shall not move! the magician stunned by what this man shouted as he dont even know who is jesus is,,he performed his usual magic anyway, But he was shocked enough and surprised,his magic never worked infront of this man....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on January 10, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
thanks for reply ....
mr gboy i want to ask you have you seen it in personal how it work??....
i'm just curious on the movement of the pmrIII when he walk in the midle of the site it twist like a electicfan...
"try lng namin gaya nga ng sabi mo boss walang msama bka meron pala"
i'll post all of the sign that we will recover, i wish it is true hehehe ...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

many thaks....  
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 11, 2010, 06:51:10 AM
jcjibz,

Of course, I have seen it, scrutinize it, inspected it....DOUBTED IT.
If you are a newbie...every word of senior treas hunter, you always believe it. If he make a TH trick by using dowsing rods turn like electric fan...most likely you will believe it bcoz you have not seen like it before, like what magicians do.

However if you are curios enough ...you can even make a dowsing rod turn like "electric fan. trick"
1) Produce a thick wire (kasing kapal ng clothes hanger), fold it into L shape with 12 inches by 6 inches size.
2) Produce a VIC ballpen and take out the inner tube with ink.
3) Put the smaller wire ( 6 inches) into the hollow tube of the VIC ballpen....while the longer side of the wire protruding in front.
4) Now you have a dowsing rod that can rotate ...left and right.
5) Practice rotating the ballpen tube...you will noticed that the wire will also rotate in circle motion...
6) Invite a newbie TH hunter....go to an alleged treasure site....SHOUT HYSTERICALLY ( to distract attention towards the obvious wire) while secretly and slowly move the tube in circular motion....and PRESTO YOU HAVE A ROTATING WIRE ...THAT TURNS LIKE AN ELECTRIC FAN....yeheeeey...then you can ask money from the exciting land owner or newbie treas hunter bcoz you found a big vol site...hehehe....oks ba?. ;D ;D ;D  ...KUMITA NA RACKET NA YAAAAANNNNN....marami na nalaspag.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 11, 2010, 08:22:50 AM
Gboy,

Wow.. that was a good post! I like that. Thanks for informing us about all of that and it looks like that US TV show at least proved that all the dowsers who were there on that show could not perform. Not to say that ALL dowsers can't perform.. just the one's who accepted that $100k challenge could not perform. Wish they would make another program once again to challenge any good world-wide dowsers to see how good they are.

TW

Check out JAMES RANDI EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, he challenge the paranormal and dowsing for $1 million dollar.

To All newbie or those hard headed TH who are lazy to perform their own testing, then this is the site for you.
There was also a challenge 5 years ago here in the US for $10 Thousand (USD) on all metal detectors and inventors to prove their method and machine capability. No one took the challenge not even the inventor took the challenge.

Before you buy or ask someones help, why not test their capability or challenge them before you pay their services this way you avoid waste of time and money.

Again COMMON SENSE X 1OO.... been saying this hundred times, still I see postings that do not make sense. SOMETIMES YOU MUST BELIEVE GBOY ....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 11, 2010, 09:08:46 PM
That word "BAKA"(maybe) is too expensive word!!! we call that sometimes palpalaran or pugpugto,, newbies should avoid it!..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 12, 2010, 09:25:14 PM
Gboy,

Wow.. that was a good post! I like that. Thanks for informing us about all of that and it looks like that US TV show at least proved that all the dowsers who were there on that show could not perform. Not to say that ALL dowsers can't perform.. just the one's who accepted that $100k challenge could not perform. Wish they would make another program once again to challenge any good world-wide dowsers to see how good they are.

TW

Check out JAMES RANDI EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, he challenge the paranormal and dowsing for $1 million dollar.

To All newbie or those hard headed TH who are lazy to perform their own testing, then this is the site for you.
There was also a challenge 5 years ago here in the US for $10 Thousand (USD) on all metal detectors and inventors to prove their method and machine capability. No one took the challenge not even the inventor took the challenge.

Before you buy or ask someones help, why not test their capability or challenge them before you pay their services this way you avoid waste of time and money.

Again COMMON SENSE X 1OO.... been saying this hundred times, still I see postings that do not make sense. SOMETIMES YOU MUST BELIEVE GBOY ....
      James Randi is an atheist and do not believe on the Bible or Jesus Christ so I am not even going to waste my time on his shows. You said "Sometimes you must believe GBOY". Cannot do that Bro, my common Sense and Sixth Sense tells me NO and that's the end of it. That's what you have been telling us all along to use common sense and to listen or rely on our sixth sense.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 12, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
TH44, that's the difference between us my ego do not overcome my emotions, sorry to say that but we must admit Gboy also make sense on other things and I agree with him on those occasions. If you do not agree with Gboy most of the time it doesn't mean that Gboy do not deserve to be understood and respected.

I do not want to bring this out and argue it with you but our topic was about PROVING THE POWER OF DOSING AND OTHER METAL DETECTORS. I did not intend to discredit or challenge your paranormal power and there is no religious connection on what I have said. I did not say I am not a believer, my intention is clear TO FIELD TEST DETECTING INSTRUMENTS WHAT EVER IT IS TO AVOID WASTING MONEY AND EFFORTS.

Gboy opened up that somebody here in the US made a challenge and I believe him, one of them is James Randi and I do not remember the other guy. Although JAMES RANDI is an atheist his challenge is a challenge you can end his challenge and disprove him if you want.

No offense bro we all have opinions and opinions must not be the cause of total shot out. Six sense is to open your self and not hold any bad feeling, six sense won't work in the dark side.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 12, 2010, 10:37:13 PM
Guys, WE cannot argue with any senses or respect or sixth senses or egoes as i believed that WE all possessed that COMMON SENSE word in our own way and understanding...There is no point of throwing heated words,,,,lets just continue discussing about that Randi the atheist!!!

***James Randi is an atheist, hes always challenging things which are unusual likely paranormal, so he is a kind of not believing in GOD at all, means if i should believe him then automatically i dont believe in God too! So Randi wanted to prove that there is actually NO GOD but he just cant do it otherwise he maybe killed anytime...Proven that he did discover trickers and physics related magics but that does not mean that he should challenge GOD too as his target here is that,,,he wanted to prove that there is no paranormal, no God, no spirits and all human being are from apes!!!.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 12, 2010, 11:29:25 PM
T_Hunter,

If your alleged sixth sense or dowsing tells you that the site had treasure, then by all means...DIG FOR IT. Anyways, you have every right to have...USELESS AND EXPENSIVE DIGGING EXERCISES on all your sites, diskarte mo na yan.
However, if you will try to convince us here that dowsing or sixth sense works....oooppps...sorry you have to convince us first...in demo or whatever means. meaning PROVE IT HERE UNDER OUR SCRUTINY if it really works.

YamTHrs,
   Before an "spirit medium" used by newbie treas hunter claiming he can see buried treasure....of course, everybody is ecstatic bcoz they believe he had some sort of x-ray vision or spirit guide...whatever.....
When I ask him if he can see the buried treasure...he allegedly say yes..hhhmmmm...second question:....I ask him if he or his spirit guardian CAN SEE THE COLOR OF MY BRIEF?....NAMUTLA AT PINAGPAWISAN NG MALAPOT....he admitted that he can't.....hehehe  ;D...see? you only need COMMON SENSE TO TEST THE AUTHENTICITY OF SOMEBODY ELSE CLAIMS....I was able to prove on the spot the alleged spirit medium or with sixth sense...can't even see the color of my brief...how much more see buried treasure? hahahaha

   Another fake YTH instrument....Long Range Locator being sold at thousand bucks....the manufacturer even claims that it had harmonics inductance that can detect presence of gold at long distance by just adjusting the antenna....hhhhmmmm...sounds to be true hehehe....I challenge them to running post debate and when my american friend open the circuit board of the expensive long range locator....you know whats inside LRL circuit?...AM RADIO CIRCUIT BOARD that cost only $2 dollars....hahaha..... ....Imagine a product being offered for $1,000 that allegedly locate buried treasure at long range...it turn out it only had AM Radio circuit board worth $2 ???? grabeeee...oks na sana nakaglue pa ang circuit para di mabisto.
   
From then on...I never ever believe on those alleged treasure hunting equipments being offered, bcoz some of them are ineffective. The only equipment i believe useful in YTH...are those used by mining companies & geologist...those are geophysical instruments.
Kaya pala di gumagamit ng Long range locator, dowsing or spirit mediums ang mining companies, kung tutuusin parehas naman dapat sila, nakabaon na ginto.... kasi... WALA PALA TALAGANG SILBE YON....Oks?
Oftentimes...you need common sense to understand it.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 12, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
For all,
       I do not and will not try to prove to anybody about my prowess in Dowsing, much specially to you Gboy. Your opinion never bothers me, why should my opinion bother you. Don't we have a right to our own opinions, hahaha. it is not an opinion if not expressed in words or in action. I will not go down to your level, you can count on that.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 13, 2010, 12:13:05 AM
Gboy, If i asked a descent woman of this question,,,How many testicles i have and what shape?? perhaps that lady maybe reluctant to answer as to protect her own delicadeza....In my own opinion,,,asking the color of your brief is an insult challenge am i right? its like you are measuring how effective his talent is or you wanted her/him to see how long you are....So perhaps anyone whom you asked that question may disregard your challenge..Or as you said,,,hes a hell of a faker or he is trying to get your sympathy on believing him or you just simply pish him off!....So why dont you challenge someone about something descent to prove someones power legitimacy??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 13, 2010, 05:10:51 AM
Gboy,

I gotta admit that that was very funny when you asked that guy, "Can you see the color of my brief?". But, anyway, maybe what's inside your brief is not considered treasure to that guy so that's his excuse for not being able to see that! The thing dangling there inside your brief is a BIG TREASURE to you I'm sure. Just like the rest of us! haha..
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 13, 2010, 05:13:44 AM
Well if GBOY will give me 2 choices between treasure chest and my dangling thing,,,,Ill go with my eggplant and take your treasure!!! ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 13, 2010, 06:41:49 AM
Gents,

I wondering about some individuals who haven't analyzed any situation unbiasly and yet make absolute pronouncement about dowsing.

I would like to post a few items about dowsing which I excerpt from an article, Just to "stir" one's "intellectual" mind on how to coup with a controvertial subject.

My question is this? : Are these companies Owners/Managers were hype by these dowsers in believing them?

“Also significant is that virtually every major water pipeline and public utility both here and abroad had a "diviner" on its payroll. The Southern California Edison Company is said to employ a dowser who, over his more than 20 years with the company, claims to have found some 8,000 wells.

The Puget Sound Power and Light Company in Washington State is reported to have a dowser formally on it staff, as does the Canadian Ministry of Agriculture. Noted dowser Evelyn Penrose was retained by British Columbia to locate oil and water resources...during 1931-1932 she also located 392 water wells for homesteaders.

In Russia it is reported that 150 Soviet geologists are using dowsing in their work and have vigorously defended its value. Both Moscow State University and the University of Leningrad have established training schools in dowsing in cooperation with the Russian Army.

The use of dowsing in the military extends to the Chinese Army, which for years has used dowsers as advance troops to scout the terrain and locate enemy sites as well as to determine optimum areas for advancing forces to encamp each night.

The Czechoslovakian Army maintains a permanent corps of dowsers. The Canadian Army Engineers also rely on dowsing.”


"During World War II, the British and Australian navies discovered that with dowsing they could successfully locate German submarine "wolfpacks". Dowsing was used by the US Marine Corps in both Korea and Vietnam.

Dowsers have been used to detect booby-traps and message drops as well as to locate tunnels and buried telephone lines and supplies. They proved able to locate tunnels of sappers at Khesan when the electronic detectors were inoperable. A member of the ASD proved the value of dowsing to the Marines at a USMC training center in Virginia by successfully locating all of the concealed underground installations, much to the amazement of camp officials. He did this by dowsing a map of the training center the night before the actual "run".

At USMC Camp Pendleton on Southern California, young enlistees have been screened for their dowsing ability. A reported one out of five was found to be able to dowse."

NOT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS NOT TRUE...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 13, 2010, 07:54:31 AM
Angel,

That's a good point and some great info there. Well, just to set the records straight - I DO BELIEVE IN DOWSING. I believe some individuals DO have some kind of sixth sense or special ESP that does allow them to do it when they are holding certain items in their hands. What I don't believe is in some of those detection equipment that claims to work on the Dowsing method but those equipment never found a single thing till now and costing sometimes thousands of dollars. What a waste of money.

I know what you said about some people being able to locate wells was very true during the western times and this really did happen. They were using a Y shaped tree branch and were somehow able to locate the exact areas where to dig for water with those. That's really amazing!

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 13, 2010, 08:12:46 AM
Guys, WE cannot argue with any senses or respect or sixth senses or egoes as i believed that WE all possessed that COMMON SENSE word in our own way and understanding...There is no point of throwing heated words,,,,lets just continue discussing about that Randi the atheist!!!

***James Randi is an atheist, hes always challenging things which are unusual likely paranormal, so he is a kind of not believing in GOD at all, means if i should believe him then automatically i dont believe in God too! So Randi wanted to prove that there is actually NO GOD but he just cant do it otherwise he maybe killed anytime...Proven that he did discover trickers and physics related magics but that does not mean that he should challenge GOD too as his target here is that,,,he wanted to prove that there is no paranormal, no God, no spirits and all human being are from apes!!!.....

Swindler, you are taking my point out of context, what I said about James Randi is not about religion, again this is what I posted nothing more nothing less:

Refer to; « Reply #397 on: January 12, 2010, 12:22:50 AM »
Check out JAMES RANDI EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, he challenge the paranormal and dowsing for $1 million dollar".

Please limit the argument to this topic do not add more sugar to the pudding.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 13, 2010, 08:38:57 AM
Im a dowser, I designed my own dowsing rod, its more on the ability of the user to use his other senses. The sixth sense plus using the dowsing rod to locate thing, but the problem, if your not tune to the frequency, vibrations, etc.. you cannot perfect it... you can feel something when you hit something, you body is the channel ..i cant explain but if you will practice you will discover,, i just use an old hanger.. and found in the net on how you will design it...If you use it be prepared not automatic, it is matter of  focusing your your mind...:-)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 13, 2010, 09:07:58 AM
TH44,

For all,
       I do not and will not try to prove to anybody about my prowess in Dowsing, much specially to you Gboy. Your opinion never bothers me, why should my opinion bother you. Don't we have a right to our own opinions, hahaha. it is not an opinion if not expressed in words or in action. I will not go down to your level, you can count on that.
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion or dowsing beliefs. Its okey if you only dowse your own site (at least the digging financial damage will be only on your own pocket). If it is on other YTHr sites...i think its not a good idea.....unless you can prove here that it indeed works.  
You know why your opinion bothers me? bcoz if you let some newbie hunters here believe that dowsing works in YTH (which I believe doesn't) am afraid the financial damage to all newbie treasure hunter here might be irreparable....baka magkalaspag2 sila kung umasa sa dowsing mo....thats my only concern.

Angel,
JAMES RANDI EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, he challenge the paranormal and dowsing for $1 million dollar".....the randi challenge and other foreign group challenge regarding DOWSING and stuff ARE STILL UP FOR GRABS.
And the people you mentioned w/ alleged dowsing talent, was still decades ago, when the scientific RANDI challenge was not yet up for grabs. Meaning they excel on their trick  bcoz nobody challenges them scientifically.
   If US$ 1 million bucks is still up for grabs for several years now WITH NO TAKERS OR DOWSER CHALLENGERS....you've got to believe it that it DOESN'T WORK

Swindler,
Its true that its insulting to challenge a lady spirit medium or fortune teller...on the spot.
But would it be INSULTING also to yourself if a fake spirit medium or fortune teller talking LIES TO YOUR FACE or binoboladas ka lang?

So why dont you challenge someone about something descent to prove someones power legitimacy??
....I have been challenging everybody for so long in several YTH forums that there are no takers. Maybe I don't have enticing $1 million bucks offer hehehe

Boy,
I guess you have to practice it a lot to perfect your ability so that hinde na tayo mahirapan maghanap2 ng ginto  ;D ;D
 
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 13, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
Gboy, If i asked a descent woman of this question,,,How many testicles i have and what shape?? perhaps that lady maybe reluctant to answer as to protect her own delicadeza....In my own opinion,,,asking the color of your brief is an insult challenge am i right? its like you are measuring how effective his talent is or you wanted her/him to see how long you are....So perhaps anyone whom you asked that question may disregard your challenge..Or as you said,,,hes a hell of a faker or he is trying to get your sympathy on believing him or you just simply pish him off!....So why dont you challenge someone about something descent to prove someones power legitimacy??

Bro Swindler, I am not here to defend Gboy, but sometimes your understanding is out of context, you literally take every word as it is. I want to point out your comment on my opinion about TH44 base on my reply « Reply #400 on: January 13, 2010, 02:07:04 PM » :

This is your reply « Reply #401 on: January 13, 2010, 02:37:13 PM »
"Guys, WE cannot argue with any senses or respect or sixth senses or egoes as i believed that WE all possessed that COMMON SENSE word in our own way and understanding...There is no point of throwing heated words,,,,lets just continue discussing about that Randi the atheist!!!"

All postings here deserved to be argued so there is no exception and please do not jump to conclusion that my opinion and comments is rude and accusing. If you comment try to understand every word and sentences the meaning behind it.
We must not take every word literally as provocative.

Your reply to Gboy's underwear is again out of context, I see Gboy's humor and common sense aspect. It's very simple and practical although it's not necessary and embarrassing. The challenge is legitimate.
Again to connect this thing to a descent woman is taking it to a higher degree and out of line. I know his purpose is to embarrass the medium there's nothing wrong about it but it should have been done moderately. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 13, 2010, 10:09:56 AM
Gboy,

Before I post any of my reply, I make sure that I understand what I'm writing.

If you have read Randi’s challenge, which has been in the net for more than half decades, he specifically mentioned the paranormal, supernatural, occult power or event…. in which I do not have any knowledge about this.

If you are coining dowsing to any of these mentioned extra normal activities, then I can say that you are not keen to accept the possibility of scientific explanation of dowsing, wherein you are  directly equating dowsing to paranormal, supernatural and occult…in which in my opinion is a bias thinking.

Dowsing, as in my  previous explanation were all based on scientific theorem…not to any mambo jumbo implications…in which I felt is too hard to accept by most because it is beyond to some other’s acceptance…thus pushing it to the other side.

For the benefit of other forumers, I am posting a potion about Randi’s article:


“He is perhaps most famous for the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, in which the James Randi Educational Foundation will award a prize of one million US dollars to anyone who is able to show evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event under test conditions agreed to by both parties.”

You see, My reasonings are very straight forward...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 13, 2010, 10:25:22 AM
Now your asking me why I haven't take Randi's challange...and the truth is,  I almost go for it...not for $1 m, for the sake of proving things. Why I didn't go for it?
Read the following:

The $1 million challenge

"In the conditions and rules governing his one million US dollars challenge, Randi plainly states that both parties (himself and the party accepting the challenge) must agree in advance as to what conditions of the test constitute a "success" and what constitutes a "failure." He also refuses to accept any challengers who might suffer serious injury or death as a result of the test they intend to undergo.

Some of Randi's detractors claim that the challenge is insincere, and that Randi will ensure he never has to pay out. In the October 1981 issue of Fate magazine, Dennis Rawlins quoted him as saying "I always have an out"  [4].

Some critics interpret as meaning he will never let his organization lose such a challenge. Others, noting this magazine article grew out of political infighting among the members of CSICOP, believe this quote is being misapplied, and that it refers to the fact that Randi employs safeguards against cheating.

The challenge has been criticised for giving Randi too much control in determining if a claim is successful or not. It has been noted that a potential applicant may well be wary of taking the challenge on the basis that Randi may insist upon conditions that are impossible to meet. There is, however, no evidence of this ever occurring. The discussions between the JREF and applicants are currently posted on a public discussion board for all to see
Another objection made by critics of the challenge is that the rules prohibit independent judging, making the success or failure of the challenge dependent on whether Randi agrees that the test has been passed (it should be noted however that Rule 8 of the challenge places an independent person in charge of a $10,000 personal cheque from Randi, to be delivered to the claimant immediately on success of the challenge, to be followed within 10 days by the payment of the full prize). This is often countered by Randi and others by pointing that tests are designed so that no judging is needed. Such critics claim that Randi's degree of control over the challenge's outcome may be a sufficient to prevent a serious applicant from undertaking it. Supporters point to the lack of evidence of this happening.

Objections to the nature of the test and its rules include:  

   No independent judge will be used, and the tests are designed by the JREF without scientific peer review.
... JREF points out that the rules for each test are to be designed such that the results will be completely obvious and unambiguous when deciding whether or not the applicant demonstrated any paranormal abilities. The judges involved in preliminary tests are usually scientists or skeptics unaffiliated with JREF whom they trust to be accurate observers.
    Randi has rejected at least one applicant, with the rejection letter stating this was because the applicant was "a liar and a fraud." The applicant in question claimed to survive without food via breatharianism. [5]

...Randi and the JREF have repeatedly stated that they will reject any applicants putting themselves in grave physical danger, which the JREF would not want to be responsible for. Randi has also twice commented on the specific case raised by the Alternative Science web site: see [6] and [7].
    As of Jan 2005, no offers to conduct a formal test have yet been extended by the JREF to an applicant. [8]
The JREF replies that this is because they have determined that none of the applicants have ever demonstrated any paranormal abilities during preliminary testing; many preliminary tests have been carried out.

    Some claim the one million dollars does not exist, or is in the form of pledges or promissary notes.
The JREF states that the million dollars is in the form of negotiable bonds within a "James Randi Educational Foundation Prize Account" and that validation of the account and the prize amount can be supplied on demand. The money is said to be held in a Goldman, Sachs & Company account. "

Now tell me, if you are in my position, will you go for this challange?....Maybe, unless you badly needed cash for your project...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 13, 2010, 11:26:39 AM
Angel, Liability is the most serious aspect any body has to take care of here in the US, you will not fully understand this but here in America, Hospitals, Companies, doctors, engineers, down to lowly worker is liable for any injury suffered because of negligence either intentional or unintentional, It carries a very heavy price to pay like imprisonment, heavy fines or revoke Professional license.

There is a lot of stupid cases here involving liability and this is shocking it actually happened;
A lady went to a drive in McDonald she ordered a cup of coffee and Mcbreakfast she put the coffee cup between her leg and when she drove off the coffee spilled on her leg and got scalded. She sued Mcdonald Co. for $3 million USD, she won.

A Chicago Alderman (equivaqlent to a councilor) was walking in a side walk he trip on a uneven concrete pavement he fell and broke his hip. He sued the contractor and the city he is serving.

For us we call them "TANGA" or stupidity but here they call it "LIABILITY".

The Randi challenge is controversial on both sides but if you want why not reverse the situation. Challenge the skeptics if you win they pay you something but if you lost you'll pay them.
For sure Gboy will take your challenge, It's a bet actually.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 13, 2010, 12:29:47 PM
Maskara,

You made me smile while reading your post.  ;D I'm on with it...but on my own terms and conditions (just like Randi). Since my reputation and my face will be at stake, and I will be debulging my long kept secret about dowsing, so I will demand not in terms of money.... It will be my reputation against their bet.

Here it is:

1. They will hide their gold bars (they have a lot of this in a hidden place somewhere in the mountain of nowhere)( of 3 gold bars of 22K weighing 6 kilograms each) in 3 different places or more (as what they deemed necessary) to the place in Nueva Ecija Cabanatuan of around 6 hectares area.

2. To make it more competetive, 1 gold bar for every 2 hectares to erase or limit the law of chances.

3. The gold bars must be assayed first and properly stenciled prior to its hiding.

4. Tony Wells will be the arbiter and will be the 2nd person to know the hiding place.

5. If I found the gold bars by using dowsing, then it will be my prize.

6. If I lose and didn't found the gold bars, then they can keep it again, and I lose my face and reputation.

7. As you understand that we Filipinos, our pride and respect can't be equated with any amount of money or material things, so the three gold bars, although not much is acceptable to bet against my face and reputation.  :D

8. The proceeds will be as follows:

a. 1 gold bar will be given to Tony Wells.
b. The second gold bars will be divided to all forum members.
c. The third gold bars will go to the construction of technical school building for out of school youth.

Fair enough?


 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 13, 2010, 03:49:04 PM
Angel_09,

Yesssss...I ACCEPT YOUR DOWSING CHALLENGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   ;D ;D ;D
Rule of Dowsing should be simplified so that these CHALLENGE will push thru, or else these are just blah blah.

1) Let us put 10 overturned plastic up...aligned and each plastic cup was 1 or 2 meter apart.
2) One overturned plastic cup had a gold ring ....(Gold ring is easy to produce than gold bar, isn't it?).
3) All you have to do is dowse each plastic cup....until you will find the right cup with gold ring...SIMPLE ISN'T?

Do not make these challenge difficult by letting us produce gold bars...BCOZ NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO PRODUCE GOLD BARS.....let it be GOLD RING instead bcoz its easy to produce. Ibig sabihin wag muna pahirapan pa ang gold req't or else di nmatuloy yan...matulad kay mayweather yan, pinahirapan pa ang boxing req't nila ni pacquiao.

If I lost I will be banish from treasure forum...same with you if you lose.
I think these is reasonable and feasible challenge..............GAME NA GAME NA...EXCITED NA AKO MAGKAKAALAMAN NA..... ;D ;D ;D........Let other who are also alleged dowsing expert be part of the challenge...oooohhhhaaa?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 13, 2010, 06:00:04 PM
Angel, I think that's not fair......... (for me) hehehe....
1.)  3 gold bars is too small from Gboys stock, Make it 6 gold bars 2ea. in every 1.5 hectare
2.)  If you win the proceeds will go to the following:

1- gold bar as your prize
1- gold bar for TW as the arbiter
1- gold bar for Maskara for bringing the idea
1- gold bar for Gboy for his courage
1- gold bar for your Foundation
1- gold bar for support for all legitimate TH.


That will be fair for all

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 13, 2010, 06:29:02 PM
Gboy,

You want to test me right? So it will be my rules, not yours. My terms and conditions are not negotiable. :D

If you believe that dowsing will not work, then you don’t have any reason to be afraid….right? ;)

Besides, don’t tell me nobody can afford to  produce gold bars because I know there are  gold bars ready for hauling. What are 3 gold bars compared to thousands?

I want this test to be big and spectacular and will be done once and for all…so that other may benefit.

Unless there are no gold bars  at all…Admit it and I MIGHT CONSIDER YOUR PROPOSAL

Gold ring in a plastic cup? Choosing which gold cup has the ring? Is it the same in beto beto?  Sorry, I don’t play beto beto.. My dowsing will look for gold bars, If I wanted to find rings, I have 3 smaller detectors to use.

Well Gboy, get your 3 gold bars now and let us start dowsing. Those gold bars are long overdue. ;D
Confirm now and I'll book my ticket immediately.

Maskara,

Yeah you're right. well, its up to Gboy to increase the ante, anyway, it will be not wasted and everybody will be happy... :D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 13, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
Wow.. so nice challenging going on here. I'd love to see this take place.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 13, 2010, 07:52:19 PM
to my fellow hunters,

to clear our doubts in dowsing or have conclusive results.how about conducting a filipino style of Carl Moreland and James Randi dowsing challenge.since we are T hunters here i also suggest that we dowse for gold(nobody,nobody but gold) or the title of the event could be "Dowse for gold CHALLENGE"


we can have it lived in T.V example we can insert or have a special episodes on PINOY RECORDS hosted by our very own boxing hero Manny Pacquiao. or Talentadong Pinoy of TV5.if this happens hope the event organizers woudnt be stiff with their prizes let us say,100k plus vacation spree(para naman hindi msayang ang oras at pamasahe ng mga contestants) or a brand new car.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 13, 2010, 07:59:54 PM
swindler,

i know you are a big time business man as i read your post from this forum and other forums too.can you sponsor my suggestion the "DOWSE FOR GOLD CHALLENGE"? or be a part of event organizer.if this happens pls include me and my partner as a contestants.and pls dont just be stiff with the prizes..



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 13, 2010, 08:20:11 PM
Guys, originally the concept is the same idea of Angel's THunting game but the way it was introduced before did not received very interesting participants.

Now we found the trigger to do it because of our arguments, it brought us something interesting and enthusiasm to prove each one's capability, be it metal detector, scanner or dowsing rod or any combination including mediums and paranormal.

Will it be a single effort entry or partnership entry, with the help of a medium or a third eye? This also should be considered because some dowsers use 3rd eye and mediums.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 13, 2010, 09:19:10 PM
Angel_09,

Okey...okey...okey...pagbibigyan kita...I will accept your challenge regarding original gold bars to be used as props hehehe so that it will push thru...akala mo may lusot ka ha, akala mo wala ako alam site with confirmed gold bars ha?   ;D
Since you wanted GOLD BARS ONLY as props....pwes...I know a place wherein there are GOLD BARS and plenty of it...dyaraaaannnn...Central Bank Gold Refinery, Quezon City....yessss  ;D ;D ;D

Central Bank building is in aprox 10 hectare compound and had 100 meter long fence in East Ave. The Central Bank building is aprox. 70-100 meter long, its a huge building. Every time I passed thru that building, I always wander, where is the exact location of the bank vault (depository of gold bars). Since CB vault is highly confidential to ordinary civilians like us.....I have a friend who work in CB,,,he knows the exact position of CB vault hehehe yari ka ngayon...kaya dapat mahulaan mo eksakto posisyon o lokasyon ng vault. ;D ;D ;D

If you stand outside the fence of C.B...you are staring at aprox 70-100 meter long CB building.....
The CHALLENGE FOR ANGEL.....BY USING YOUR DOWSING ROD....TRY TO LOCATE THE CENTRAL BANK GOLD VAULT LOCATION IN THE BLDG....which part of the building?...was it on the right side?...middle?...left side?....remember that's huge bldg?......hehehe...so that every pinoy TH will know the exact position of CB vault.

Gentkemen,
Let it be imagined the CB compound as a treasure site...which part of CB building had gold vault?
If Angel can't accept these simple dowsing challenge (remember i already gave him confirmed plenty of gold bars site)...then HAOSIAO SIYA pag nag alibi pa, oks?

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 13, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
This challenge is getting sweeter and sweeter,,,im amused and i think we are going to prove something here which is good...OK,,,Ill put Php 15,000.00 as a price money thru TW assistance!!!! Prove to me intricately and how effective your DOWSING techniques with a very precise and well documented and be proved and a big YES by the majority of TSEATC members.....Some members can add on that price money if they wish too....SO LETS GO WITH THE CHALLENGE!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 14, 2010, 12:05:19 AM
Gboy,

The way our discussion moves, I began to doubt my written explanation which is in english. Is my english really that bad that the idea can't be grasp and understood?

With that, I'll have to post it again and will ask the help of Tony to explain it to very simple meaning and laymans term:

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Here it is:

1. They will hide their gold bars (they have a lot of this in a hidden place somewhere in the mountain of nowhere)( of 3 gold bars of 22K weighing 6 kilograms each) in 3 different places or more (as what they deemed necessary) to the place in Nueva Ecija Cabanatuan of around 6 hectares area.

2. To make it more competetive, 1 gold bar for every 2 hectares to erase or limit the law of chances.

3. The gold bars must be assayed first and properly stenciled prior to its hiding.

4. Tony Wells will be the arbiter and will be the 2nd person to know the hiding place.

5. If I found the gold bars by using dowsing, then it will be my prize.

6. If I lose and didn't found the gold bars, then they can keep it again, and I lose my face and reputation.

7. As you understand that we Filipinos, our pride and respect can't be equated with any amount of money or material things, so the three gold bars, although not much, is acceptable as bet against my face and reputation. 

8. The proceeds will be as follows:

a. 1 gold bar will be given to Tony Wells.
b. The second gold bars will be divided to all forum members.
c. The third gold bars will go to the construction of technical school building for out of school youth.

Fair enough?

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These are my conditions for dowsing testing... not central bank.

Swindler, we can use your 15K for incidental expense once this challenge push through. For other members, they don't need to chip-in additional amount since 18Kgs. of gold is more than enough as prize which will be divided accordingly....I'm just waiting for Gboy to agree with these and share his "golds" to everybody. The last time I heard is, it is on the way of retrieval now. ;D

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 14, 2010, 01:03:05 AM
Angel,
 At least that 15k price money is TRUE and REAL and can be withdrawn anytime from now because counting a Gold which is NOT YET IN HANDS,,(if there is) is considered impossible....am i right?.... ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 14, 2010, 01:48:42 AM
Yeah, you're right swindler. Sometimes we must deal with reality in order things to happen.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 14, 2010, 04:18:54 AM
Angel_09,

The DOWSING CHALLENGE is simple...you wanted it to make difficult so that it will not push thru....BUT dyaraaaannnn.............hehehe...Akala mo may lusot ka pa rin ha????....YOUR CONDITION IS HEREBY...APROVE BY GBOY !!!!
yeheeeyyy...clap, clap, clap......Payag2 na ako sa kundisyones mo, infact BITIN PA NGA AKO SA KUNDISYON MO EH...oks ba?

Even though...we the organizer of these DOWSING CHALLENGE should be the one that will put the rule...instead of the contestant or challenger will be the one imposing the rule (para kang si mayweather ah, challenger nagiimpose ng rule) hehehe....I WILL STILL ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE HEHEHEH matuloy lang yan.......O ano may hirit ka pa dyan? Bitin pa ako sa mga kundisyones mo eh, gusto mo isang bodega pa ng ginto eh, yon lang pala kailangan mo eh....OOOOHHAAA????...O ANO PUMAYAG KA NA DYAAAANNN.. ;D ;D ;D

O sige PARTIDA, HUMIRIT KA PA DYAN kahit ano. Baka magulat ka kasi tyak PAPAYAG DIN AKO hehehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 14, 2010, 04:26:33 AM
Angel_09,

So that these challenge will push thru.....you can impose whatever impossible, amazing, extra ordinary, difficult CONDITIONS you think of (isagad mo na lahat dyan)......I WILL STILL ACCEPT AND APROVE THE CHALLENGE...oks ba?  ;D ;D ;D O ano hirit pa?????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 14, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
Good Gboy ;D 

OK let's finalize the date so that I can prepare the area. We need to know the availability Of Tony and other members as witnesses. Oh, one more thing, the 3 6kgs of gold bars must be witness first by Tony during assaying, you know.....there are fake gold bars nowadays that are circulating in the market today...3 for 100 pesos...bargain.  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 14, 2010, 08:05:42 PM
 :) :) :)Hmmmmm, this proposed contest is getting more interesting each day. WHO will provide the 18 kg of gold, that is my question. Swindler says he will provide 15k, of course in pesos, now the Gold and 18kg of it as proposed by Angel_09, not fake and assayed to be genuine and  to be witnessed by TW. I am almost tempted to join as a contestant. With that much prize, money and gold bar, what would be the entrance fee, 50 grand ? ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 14, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
Well gents, as James Randi always claimed, (I’m not sure if dowsing is really included) for those things that he doesn’t believe, he pooled $1 M just to negate the claims of these people. :)

Here in the Philippines, it is also negated by others, so instead of verbal exchanges, it would be better to do it in actual; and I think all those who are interested can also join…to prove their points. It will be their claims about dowsing against their reputations in treasure hunting community.
Who is James Randi to pool $1M just to prove his point compared to our very own Gboy who have the biggest no. of AU in holding? $1m is peanut compared to AU. :D

Since the contest is to prove the dowsing capability in finding gold bars, what is more appropriate than using a true gold bar instead of a decoy or substitute? Provided of course that these bars are true and had been assayed and confirmed to be true; which will be checked by Tony Wells as honorary Moderator and coordinator.

Regarding the gold bars, I do not doubt that Gboy can produce these little 3 pcs. 6Kgs bars (what is 3  against thousands of pcs?) since I understand that he holds the biggest hoards of AU here in the Philippines. It is only up to him when he wanted to “donate” 3 pcs. of it….but we can wait and I hope others are not in a hurry. ;D ;D ;D

I hope it will not be that long....I'm running out dry.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 14, 2010, 10:53:22 PM
Angel_09,

1. They will hide their gold bars (they have a lot of this in a hidden place somewhere in the mountain of nowhere)( of 3 gold bars of 22K weighing 6 kilograms each) in 3 different places or more (as what they deemed necessary) to the place in Nueva Ecija Cabanatuan of around 6 hectares area.
    THE PLACE IS IN METRO MANILA..UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES CAMPUS BCOZ ITS A WIDE AREA....LOT OF HIDING PLACE  ;D   

2. To make it more competetive, 1 gold bar for every 2 hectares to erase or limit the law of chances.
    I PREFERRED 1 PC. 75 KILOS FOR EVERY 1,000 SQUARE METER, SO THAT YOUR CHANCE OF FINDING IT IS BIG , oks ba?

3. The gold bars must be assayed first and properly stenciled prior to its hiding.
    YOU WILL BE THE ONE WHO WILL ASSAYED IT SINCE, YOU ARE GOOD AT ASSAYING, para wala ka masabi, oks? OR IF YOU CAN PRODUCE YOUR OWN ASSAYER LIKE BUREAU OF MINES OR ANY ASSAYER COMPANY....IKAW NA MAGBAYAD NYAN SYEMPRE REQUEST MO YAN EH, DI BA TO BE ASSAYED FIRST?

4. Tony Wells will be the arbiter and will be the 2nd person to know the hiding place.
    TONY WELLS IS FINE BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOULDER HIS TRAVEL EXPENSES AND HOTEL ACCOMODATIONS BCOZ YOU ARE THE ONE WHO REQUESTED HIM, RIGHT?     

5. If I found the gold bars by using dowsing, then it will be my prize.
    IF YOU FOUND THE GOLD BAR...YOUR PRICE IS 20 PCS, 75 KILOS GOLD BARS PLUS BONUS IF YOU WANT MORE....para ganahan ka maghanap at solve2 ka talaga, oks?

6. If I lose and didn't found the gold bars, then they can keep it again, and I lose my face and reputation.
    IF YOU LOSE, YOU DON'T NEED TO LOSE YOUR FACE....INSTEAD YOU CHANGE IT(PLASTIC SURGERY) WITH POKWANG FACE, kung papayag ka lang naman ;D....OKS?

7. As you understand that we Filipinos, our pride and respect can't be equated with any amount of money or material things, so the three gold bars, although not much, is acceptable as bet against my face and reputation.
    I THINK THE 3 GOLD BARS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOUR EFFORT...I SUGGEST 20 PCS 75 KILOS OR A FEW HUNDREDS MORE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? ano sa palagay mo?.....

8. The proceeds will be as follows:

a. 1 gold bar will be given to Tony Wells......
   
I INSIST 2 PCS. 75 KILOS BE GIVEN..OR MORE UPON HIS REQUEST.

b. The second gold bars will be divided to all forum members.
    I INSIST 10 PCS. 75 KILOS GOLD BARS BE GIVEN TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS....OR MORE UPON THEIR REQUEST.

c. The third gold bars will go to the construction of technical school building for out of school youth.
    I INSIST THE REMAINING 8 PCS. 75 KILOS GOLD BARS SHALL BE GIVEN.
   
Fair enough?
    NOT YET...BITIN PA AKO SA MGA CONNDITIONS MO KOKONTI LANG EH...I NEED MORE....MORE CONDITIONS TO SATISFY YOU.

OK let's finalize the date
     AM NOT AVAILABLE TOMORROW BCOZ I HAVE TO GO TO THE DENTIST...WOULD IT BE THE FOLLOWING DAY OR 3 DAYS FROM NOW OR THE SOONEST BCOZ AM BUSY you know...YTHing?  :D

CAN I ADD MORE?....I INSIST THAT YOU SHOULD PUT IT IN YOUR CONDITIONS...WOWOWEE GIRLS TO BE INCLUDED AS OUR CHEERING SQUAD?...pampagana ba, ano sa palagay mo? pera2 or au2 lang yan eh di ba?  ;D......ANO SA PALAGAY MO? ;D ;D ;D

T_HUNTER44,
Don't worry about the entrance fee bcoz its FREE, in fact I insist that each contestant will be given...75 kilo bar as participation reward, okey ba yon? ;D


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 14, 2010, 11:05:34 PM
Angel_09,

BTW, don't worry about the 75 kilos gold bars...SAGOT KO NA LAHAT YAN.
You should be the one who will prepare and shoulder the expenses of the people YOU REQUESTED to come and witnessed like Tony Wells...kasi ikaw mismo ngarequest nyan eh di ba?...fair enough?  ;D
Can you do it ASAP or within next few days maybe?...am kindah busy THng you know? :'(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 14, 2010, 11:46:13 PM
     I am beginning to like this proposed contest. Gboy, since you are going to see your dentist, do not use all that gold to replace your teeth, leave some for the prize basket, use some for fillings is okay. Joke lang ! And since the entrance is free, I think I will be one of the contestants, provided I can hop a flight back to the PI, too bad they closed the USAF Base at Clark, I could fly  there for free on Space A on a Military Flight but that is over and done with., thanks to our politicians there, they wanted more cash instead of medical assistance and military gear.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 15, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
No problem Gboy, just post some photos of your prizes to whet the appetite of the contestants...You know, I don't want them to think you are bluffing....they are still banking on your reputation.... ;) :D ;D

Yeah, T_44, this is getting bigger and bigger.... I hope it will not explode at the end... :D :D :D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 02:01:53 AM
Angel_09,

No problem Gboy, just post some photos of your prizes to whet the appetite of the contestants...You know, I don't want them to think you are bluffing....they are still banking on your reputation...
    Posting some 75 kilos gold bars photos, As far as I know is not one of your preconditions listed before. Whats these endless conditions? I already agreed to produce gold bars beyond your wildest imagination, now you wanted some gold bar photos???? hehehe abuso na yata yan ah. palagi ikaw na lang nasusunod, di naman ppwede yan. >:(
     I already complied to all your conditions...ITS ABOUT TIME you should agree to my condition also....TO TEST FOR DOWSING CHALLENGE....ASAP or THIS WEEK?
    HURRY UP, Buy ticket to PI and pocket money to Tony Wells, request mo yan eh, gawin mo, oks?
    Of course, am NOT BLUFFING...I ALREADY AGREED AND WILLING TO COMPLY WITH YOUR PRECONDiTIONS BEFORE. In fact I even raise the vol of gold bars you wanted to detect. No more blah blah....LETS DO IT...AM EAGER TO SEE YOUR ALLEGED DOWSING ABILITY ASAP...AN DAMI PA NGAS2 BAKIT DI NA LANG MAGDETECT AT MATAPOS NA YAN....... :o :o :o
   


T_hunter44,
    Basta relax lang kayo dyan...AM JUST WAITING FOR ANGEL TO START HIS DETECTION...ang tagal2 eh, panay kundisyones2 wala ng katapusan.....TAPUSIN NA YAN AT MAGDETECT NA.... ooohhhaaa?????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 15, 2010, 03:28:18 AM
Gents,

Now Gboy agreed to the dowsing testing protocol, I think we have to iron out the procedures prior to the testing. (Just like professionals, we have to plan everything to make the test more credible. I’m thinking to invite some friends in the media to cover this event, what do you think Gboy? I hope you’re not camera shy.) :D ;D ;D

First I’ll talk to Tony about his availability, then (If he believes Gboy is not bluffing and this whole invitation is not a charade), then we will proceed way back to Phil.

For the mean time, since Gboy agreed and even increased the ante, I had contacted the caretaker in Cabanatuan to prepare the place for the said event. Prior to the testing, of course Gboy have to present the  gold bars to Tony, (and we will take Tony’s word about it existence and originality) then stenciled it, (to make sure  it can not be switched with bronze or lead, you know now a day, we have to be very careful). Once Gboy and Tony confirmed that the bars are hidden, and both of them concurred, then we will start the hunting.  :D :D

If others would like to join, well, Gboy is most welcome to accommodate everybody.
It will be up to Gboy to give the most convenient, appropriate, realistic and logical time frame and duration of the testing within the 60,000 sq. meters area, after all,  gold bars even as freebies do not come cheap and not a joke…(Thanks to Gboy).  :D

So fellow Thunters, please don’t rush Gboy in producing the gold bars. Once he said that the bars are ready and show his photo with the gold bars he promised stack on his side, thenTony and I will proceed to Cabanatuan for the inspection…( to make sure that the picture is not photoshoped). ;) :-\ :D

Wow, I’m starting to believe that Gboy is really hauling his gold….. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 05:58:13 AM
Angel_09,

1. They will hide their gold bars (they have a lot of this in a hidden place somewhere in the mountain of nowhere)( of 3 gold bars of 22K weighing 6 kilograms each) in 3 different places or more (as what they deemed necessary) to the place in Nueva Ecija Cabanatuan of around 6 hectares area.
    THE PLACE IS IN METRO MANILA..UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES CAMPUS BCOZ ITS A WIDE AREA....LOT OF HIDING PLACE  ....

For the mean time, since Gboy agreed and even increased the ante, I had contacted the caretaker in Cabanatuan to prepare the place for the said event.
    IN YOUR OWN PLACE IN CABANATUAN? ...WITH MY GOLD BARS TRUSTING IT ON YOUR CARETAKERS PLACE?...What do you think of me stupid? I DON'T THINK SO  ;)....I WILL HIDE IT IN UNIVERSITY OF THE PLACE CAMPUS, DILIMAN, Q.C....that is a neutral ground for dowsing.

I’m thinking to invite some friends in the media to cover this event, what do you think Gboy?
    MEDIA IS NOT NEEDED, ITS JUST A DOWSING CHALLENGE, NO MORE NO LESS NOT A CIRCUS OR TREASURE EXPOSE, BESIDES WE HAVE GOLD BARS TO PROTECT....NO TREASURE HUNTERS WANTED TO EXPOSE OUR TH ACTIVITIES TO MEDIA OR ELSE WE ARE A WALKING DEAD.

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO...BUY A TICKET/POCKET MONEY TO TONY WELLS, IF HE IS NOT AVAILABLE. GIVE THE TICKET/POCKET MONEY TO T_HUNTER44 (IF HE IS ABROAD...ITS FREE VACATION FOR YOU NOW  ;D), POST THE PICTURE OF THE TICKET YOU PURCHASED SO THAT WE WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE SERIOUS ENOUGH AND BEING ACTUALLY USED TO COME HERE IN P.I.....THEN THE ASSAYER WILL PROCEED TO GOLD BARS ASSAYED....AND HIDE IT SECRETLY AT UP CAMPUS , DILIMAN, Q.C.

YOU WANTED WITNESS...GIVE POCKET MONEY TO BOY LARA SO THAT HE CAN COME FROM CAGAYAN TO MANILA AS WITNESS OF THESE DOWSING CHALLENGE.

BTW, don't ever2 let me produce pictures of gold bars bcoz thats the easiest thing to do. baka mapasubo ka, kasi seseguraduhin ko ikaw muna mauna bibili ng ticket at panggastos bago ko ipakita mga gold pictures para walang atrasan?

FYI, I don't photoshoped gold bars pictures...bcoz  I have collection of dozen gold bars pictures thru these years, remember i have complete TH research materials, oks ba? ;D ;D ;D
My question...HOW FAST CAN YOU EASILY BUY TICKETS AND POCKET MONEY FOR THESE DOWSING CHALLENGE AND POST IT HERE, AFTER YOU DO THAT, THEN I WILL POST HERE THE GOLD BAR PICTURES ALSO?
...oks?  ;D










Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 06:06:03 AM
Angel_09,

" Wow, I’m starting to believe that Gboy is really hauling his gold "
AM NOT HAULING GOLD...AM JUST COMPLYING WITH YOUR CONDITIONS...NO MORE NO LESS...

Don't worry...am not bluffing (hinde kita binoboladas)....I have a good YTH refutation to protect here...right?  ;D ....masisikmura ko bang lokohin ka, ako pah?...hinde ah  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 15, 2010, 11:12:48 AM
tsk! ...tsk!... tsk!... As usual....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 04:05:51 PM
Angel_09,

" Wow, I’m starting to believe that Gboy is really hauling his gold "
AM NOT HAULING GOLD...AM JUST COMPLYING WITH YOUR CONDITIONS...NO MORE NO LESS...
Don't worry...am not bluffing (hinde kita binoboladas)....I have a good YTH refutation to protect here...right?  Grin ....masisikmura ko bang lokohin ka, ako pah?...hinde ah

   tsk! ...tsk!... tsk!... As usual....

What happened? Whats wrong with not hauling gold?...why would I haul gold in stockpile?...if your dowsing conditions req't is few pieces of gold bars only as sample for dowsing challenge? Am I correct? Do you expect me to haul the whole gold stockpile for a few pieces AU sample? I thought this is just a DOWSING challenge not big vol buy/sell, am I right?

Our DOWSING CHALLENGE is like deck of cards....you open one card (like proof of spending for
travel and hotels to PI)....I will show you also my card (picture proof of my gold...sitting near to it...with face covered of course for security reason  ;D )...if you are doubtful if am the one on the picture, punta ka muna dito, ipakita ko syo picture  ;D )....You open second card...I will also open my 2nd card...and so on and so fort.  Like deck of cards,  if you want to bluff or Lie....of course, you should expect me also capable of bluffing or giving lies, right? ;D

Alam ko kung bakit ka umaatras, malamang SHOCK KA...akala mo di ko kaya magproduce ng gold bars picture noh?....pakipot at pinapakagat lang muna kita, kunwari di ko kaya hehehe...pero sangdangkal gold bars collection ko, sa tagal ko ba naman sa YTH / AU agent eh......kahit nga si Maskara ang daming gold bar collection, mostly fakes nga lang tama ba? Alam mo ba ang lamang ko syo sa YTH debate...am well informed and experienced in YTH and have complete YTH research materials (pictures,maps, etc), kaya di mo ako kaya dyaaaan...ikaw ang paiikutin ko. ;D

Enough for litany....WHEN YOU WILL BE COMING HERE AND BEGIN DOWSING CHALLENGE?...AM JUST HERE...READY ANYTIME....ANYTIME, OKS?  ;D ;D ;D 


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
Angel_09,

OOOOpppsss...nagkamali pag type sa paragraph 4

Alam ko kung bakit ka umaatras, malamang SHOCK KA...akala mo di ko kaya magproduce ng gold bars picture noh?....pakipot at pinapakagat lang muna kita, kunwari di ko kaya hehehe...pero sangdangkal gold bars collection ko, sa tagal ko ba naman sa YTH / AU agent eh......kahit nga si Maskara ang daming gold bar collection, mostly fakes nga lang tama ba? Alam mo ba ang lamang ko syo sa YTH debate...am well informed and experienced in YTH and have complete YTH research materials (pictures,maps, etc), kaya di mo ako kaya dyaaaan...ikaw ang paiikutin ko.


..."gold bar picture collection....not gold bar collection"... ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 15, 2010, 07:26:18 PM
TSK!...TSK!....TSK!.... ??? ??? ???


"So fellow Thunters, please don’t rush Gboy in producing the gold bars. Once he said that the bars are ready and show his photo with the gold bars he promised stack on his side, thenTony and I will proceed to Cabanatuan for the inspection…( to make sure that the picture is not photoshoped).   ;D ;D ;D

TSK!....TSK!....TSK!..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 15, 2010, 10:04:06 PM
Im sorry to say that THERE IS ONE MAN HERE WHICH IS EXEMPTED FROM THE GAME as i just proved the capability of this man too be true and authentic (and proved by Jhie too) and challenging HIM is like disregarding my own belief....Sorry sir but you cant....YOUR CAPABILITY IS FAR MORE THAN THAT...******This MAN actually turned my inner belief, and i know that this MAN knows ME now even we never met yet at half the world distance!!! anyway i know too that this MAN knows me NOW to be a very clean man and having good heart and i dont lie to what i always says.....Am i confessing here??? Nope! but this MAN just opened the door of enlightenment to me,,,GOD is very good to me and gave me all his gifts.......

***Ill top-up another Php 5,000.00 ON that prize money!!! Simply just prove to us how authentic your dowsing capability...No major conditions or whatsoever...just an encouraging proof that may convince the majority even not all!!! find a way how to explain, video, paragraph or any convincing method.......
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 15, 2010, 10:32:47 PM
hi there
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 15, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
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Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gener on January 15, 2010, 10:42:58 PM
NOPE!!!!! they are NOT confirmed yamashita treasure markings but they are confirmed hidden treasure markers....The bottles may not be a major markers but they were actually part of markers confirming that there is a strong japanese presence on that certain area.....First markers shows the directions and its located a little far from here.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 15, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
Angel_09,

"So fellow Thunters, please don’t rush Gboy in producing the gold bars. Once he said that the bars are ready and show his photo with the gold bars he promised stack on his side"

I AM READY TO SHOW GOLD PICTURES, ANYTIME YOU WANT (I have collection of several gold bar pictures ;D thru these years) AND READY, WILLING, ABLE (RWA) FOR DOWSING CHALLENGE ASAP..
IF AND ONLY IF YOU SHOW ME FIRST....PROOF OF YOUR TRAVEL EXPENSE TO PI (ticket, western union money transfer to Tony Wells, etc)....THEN I WILL SHOW YOU GOLD BARS PICTURE BESIDE ME....ano gusto mo nakahawak ng ginto? ilan piraso 2 pieces? 100 pieces? or 1,000 pcs au? nakaluhod? gusto mo may katabi pa G. Budha na de roskas ang ulo??? ;D...anyways nakatakip naman mukha ko baka ako masalvage pag pinakalat ko dito mukha ko, oks ba?  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 15, 2010, 11:22:09 PM
GBOY,
 I though you are going to produce REAL GOLD BARS for the DOWSING proving game??? Well I already pledged the PRICE so i think you are obligued to provide the AU bar samples now,,,Will gold photographs be able to use and can be found by dowsers on work even at certain depths??....Then lets ask the dowsers....
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 15, 2010, 11:25:04 PM
this are also picture of bottle we gather during our reseach in the area......
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gener on January 15, 2010, 11:31:42 PM
Well i cant give you a concrete answer as the markers you shown here are exploded! means they are not organize..All markers are giving directions and i dont know where are the directions? you just provided the markers with no perfect coordinations. So its impossible for me to give you a conclusion but really,,,,treasure is just around here and its big....where is this located luzon or visayas...cause if luzon,,maybe i can help you to check it myself once im in the country this march....its impossible for you to check yourself as you may not know where are the markers are and how they were coordinated....
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 15, 2010, 11:52:49 PM
Suntory is a bottled whisky made in Japan as I have drink that brand when we pulled in port at Yokosuka, Japan and that bottle may or may not be a marker, could have been some Japanese emptied the bottle and just throw the bottle away but the cross might be. Why did you not also take a picture of the cross.
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 15, 2010, 11:59:11 PM
sir im from luzon......... sir if i can give you an organise picture and drawing and detail regarding this marking.....can you help me figure it out.......all the details and picture ill post it........
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 16, 2010, 12:08:54 AM
Angel_09,

OOOOpppsss...nagkamali pag type sa paragraph 4

Alam ko kung bakit ka umaatras, malamang SHOCK KA...akala mo di ko kaya magproduce ng gold bars picture noh?....pakipot at pinapakagat lang muna kita, kunwari di ko kaya hehehe...pero sangdangkal gold bars collection ko, sa tagal ko ba naman sa YTH / AU agent eh......kahit nga si Maskara ang daming gold bar collection, mostly fakes nga lang tama ba? Alam mo ba ang lamang ko syo sa YTH debate...am well informed and experienced in YTH and have complete YTH research materials (pictures,maps, etc), kaya di mo ako kaya dyaaaan...ikaw ang paiikutin ko.


..."gold bar picture collection....not gold bar collection"... ;D
        Ysk, Tsk, Tsk ! Looks like the Dowsing for Gold contest is not going to materialize after all, who wants pictures of gold bars. One can download it by the hundreds, just Google it by typing Gold Bar Pictures and you can take your pick, some nice pictures too. And I thought I can have some easy pickings. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 01:20:53 AM
sir t_hunter44 what year you drink a whisky of suntory.....
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 01:43:42 AM
sir t_hunter44 may i ask you what year did you drink a suntory whisky? just thinking how old the bottle is......
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 16, 2010, 01:45:11 AM
       Hahaha, that was in the late 60s when I was in the US Navy and we go all over the place like Japan, Korea, Thailand, Hongkong, Taiwan and the Philippines and Vietnam and I love the Kirin Beer too  and it is difficult to find San Miguel Beer on those ports but I have tried em all and when one is young, you'll try anything and have fun too, tried the women too, those were the good old times.
       My suggestion is not to dig if you are not sure of the location as it will cost you if you are in the wrong place but if you are in NV, wait for Swindler as that is his playground or hunting grounds,just an advice, you do not have to take it.
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 02:37:28 AM
any one ..........master in treasure hunting field........plsss guide me asap...........coz my colleague is now in hurry to dig the site......so i have to convince them that markings are saying something...... please reffer to my early post....the markings are saying something from that wooden cross monument....down to the concrete filed rocks and also the bottle.........who have japanese character   


whats the marking says all about........ can masters help me...
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gener on January 16, 2010, 02:38:06 AM
Right!,,If you can just wait and let me see it,,,you will not go wrong,,,if you wanted it to continue then its up to you too but it will cost you for nothing....That is if you wanted or you will trust me.... :)
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gener on January 16, 2010, 02:42:01 AM
Oh! so you are rushing,,,Ok then,,,ANY ONE,,,MASTER in Treasure hunting filed pls??? ??? ::)
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 02:57:37 AM
sir swindler,


i want to but my colleagues.....are in rush.......so i have to convince them first not to dig the site.....thats why i want a proof to convince them that the markings are saying something....and that is why also....i am asking all the masters in treasure hunting field that what was the marking was saying....




please understand......cause of my colleagues......
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 04:07:20 AM
Berto, these are the bottles of Suntory made from 1929, 1963, 1984 & 1986. You can choose which is the most similar on what you have found:
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 04:10:09 AM
GBOY,
 I though you are going to produce REAL GOLD BARS for the DOWSING proving game??? Well I already pledged the PRICE so i think you are obligued to provide the AU bar samples now,,,Will gold photographs be able to use and can be found by dowsers on work even at certain depths??....Then lets ask the dowsers....
....That's what am planning to do to be used as his props on dowsing challenge. If and only if Angel_09 shall produce proof of his travel expenses to Phil (airline, ticket, WU money transfer to Tony Wells, etc), then I will produce gold bar pictures also.

        Ysk, Tsk, Tsk ! Looks like the Dowsing for Gold contest is not going to materialize after all, who wants pictures of gold bars. One can download it by the hundreds, just Google it by typing Gold Bar Pictures and you can take your pick, some nice pictures too. And I thought I can have some easy pickings. ;) ;) ;)
....Ewan ko ba dyan, AM DAMI2 ARTE...MAGDODOWSING LANG KUNG ANO2 REQ'T PA....pag nagcomply ka, kung ano2 na naman karagdagan req't. Ok na sana gusto pa ako gulangan sa mga kundisyones nya, ako pa magugulangan?;D...wise ine...Gumastos muna sya papunta dito, saka ko sundin mga kundisyones nya  ;D
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 04:26:00 AM
Ghilbzberto,

Its a waste of time and money if your group will immediately dig the site w/o an iota of proof that it contain gold or treasure. The scattered bottle you found is called...Japs garbage (if it indeed belongs to japs) or basura. Maybe there is some drinking spree for the japs soldiers and throw or scattered away some bottles....tapos gawin nyo na treas marker agad?...hehehe....this is a good candidate for useless dig site.

You know what you should do?...GET PROOF OF GOLD FIRST....How? Use basic mining or TH technique, conduct the usual geophysical survey, conduct borehole drill and GET GOLD dust/flakes sample.....
But of course, your group may not be able to afford those surveys (like most of us)....well2...problema nyo na yan, kung gusto nyo magtreas...GUMASTOS KAYO OR MAGHANAP2 BIG TIME FINANCIER.

My YTH suggestion maybe FRANK, PRACTICAL and EXPENSIVE....but that's my one cent opinion, walang personalan... ;D  ::)
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gener on January 16, 2010, 04:59:44 AM
YEAH! GBOY got it!!! Dont proceed with immediate conclusions....its ok if you have excessive budget and you just wanted to waste it.. ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 16, 2010, 05:12:12 AM
Im not asking for tons of tons of samples anyway,,i just wanted anything bigger than what you can produce,,,i just wanted a proof how effective their dowsing techniques is??? Well if you can produce 25 pcs of 75kgs in the area,,,do you think you will get out alive??? ;D ;D You needed more than 100 person to protect it and these protectors will swindle you im sure... :D :D...Or are this are just for distribution or retribution?....
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 07:37:43 AM
sir angel,

this is the bottle we found on the area im reffering too..............thanks a lot for the picture your post so got an additional idea bout the bottle i have now........
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 16, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
swindler,

your price is too stiff.dont be thrift brow!we will accept the DOWSE FOR GOLD CHALLENGE in any condition whether in stage or in the ground.sayang pamasahi at oras namin.yan lang ang aming puntahan dyan sa manila..come on brow!we are eager to make it happens

maskara,

i'll accept your detectors and scanners challenge too.whats the price brow?and how much?

TW,

how about you sir,can you contribute for the prizes?

"actions speak louder than words"
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 08:34:12 AM
ghilbzberto,

I checked your drawing and it made sense why your group are very excited to start the operation. But I suggest try to do more in depth analysis of the area. It will help you to decide whether it is worth to spend money and effort to that project:

1. Is the area inhabited? If not, what was the farthest distance of the nearest barrio?
2. Is the area in trail track?
3. What type of wood is the wooden cross? Was the wooden cross come to an age of 70 years? If this wooden cross is exposed to athmosphere, definitely it will suffer "weathering" (rain/shine/cold/heat).
4. Was the bottles in random position? Or was it intentionally put in that place with pattern?
5. To check if there is a void covered by the concrete, try to put water on that area and check the rate of absorption of the ground. If the water quickly vanish, definitely it goes somewhere. From there on you can increase the volume of water and check again the result.
6. Check the soil under the concrete. Was it disturbed? Was it original top soil or soil coming from deeper source?

You see guys, treasure hunting is not just digging and conclusion at the end. It is always a puzzle...an art...just like a woman, you have to check and study every angle of the area so that it will give you a hint where to find the correct hole....if there is any.

And last, Test instrument is a must. If your group can afford or have at least a two box detector, you can start with it. I suggest this instrument because it can detect void and metal. If this will not give you any results, it means, what you are looking is not within the range of your equipment....OR.....nothing.

BUT I SUGGEST THE WATER TEST....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 16, 2010, 01:56:12 PM
      Dowse for Gold Challenge is getting way out of hand. Is the Prize Money necessary and I thought it was only to prove to the skeptics that it works as the Dowsers claim and if they can prove that it works, that should shut up the skeptics and once and for all  stop the negative remarks and ridicules that the skeptics threw at them. I myself is a Dowser and I do not hide it nor be ashamed of it and proving to the non believers that it works is more than satisfactory enough for me and then I do not really care much if they believe that it works or not, it works for me and that is all that matters.
     
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 16, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
Jack,

Well I'm not in the position to contribute to any prizes at this time but if I'm in the Philippines when this is taking place I would certainly like to be involved with this project.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 16, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
JackB, I did not challenge anybody nor ask anybody to challenge somebody. This spawned from my comments to TH lookig for dowsers and scanners. I advised to test the dowser or scanner first before going for it to avoid waste of time and money.

The Challenge started from Angel and Gboy they dared each other from long time personal feud they have. One has to prove his dowsing and detecting method and the other has to prove his stock pile of gold.

To tell you frankly this challenge thing that's going on is ridiculous we all know that this will not happen from the way both side like it to be conducted on their own terms. The only way that this will happen is for all of you there to organized and test your skills honestly with or without prize money. This is not a feud of who is better or the best but this idea of challenge must supersede greed, it should be the desire to help honestly and to prove your capability, through paranormal, mediums, third eye or instruments.

Like our fellow bro TH44 said, it doesn't matter whether you believe him or not asking for price money to prove his skill is not his option.
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: MasKara on January 16, 2010, 04:26:30 PM
ghilbzberto, I am curious why your group is very excited and in a hurry is there an outside financial aspect involved, or are you the financier. If that's the case I'd rather advice you to back out, some sites are tailor made for scamming.

Treasure hunting is not an easy task 98% is failure, 1% is luck and 1% is purely coincidence.
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 16, 2010, 05:16:26 PM
        Your bottles I believe are not  markers as they are strewn about all over the place. Marker locations are fixed and not lose so when it is ready for retrieval, the markers should be where it is supposed to be or else the retrievers is lost and those logos was integrated in the bottles  when the bottle was manufactured by the company so no other company can use it and one cannot change or remove the brand or logo ie; like Coca-Cola bottles or San miguel Beer.
        Your group seems to be so intent in digging now and none of the people here cannot dissuade your group from doing so. By all means, go for it, you'll never know, you guys might get lucky and luck really plays a big role in  treasure recovery, in fact more is of accidental find. Do not say you have not been warned. Good Luck on your site.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
There is nothing personal about this dowsing challenge, Maskara.

When somebody said that someone’s method of detection is fraud and is used for scamming, will you just accept and will say Yes, you are correct? In analogy, In the same way that somebody will say that you, as a gold broker is a fraud and not really gold buyer, will you say yes Iam also?…..

Before someone challenge a person or system, he must have substance about his challenge. He challenged dowsing as if he knows it all and say it in absolute way and manner, and cited James Randie’s challenge as a reference.

The point is, if he challenge a method, he must stand up to the point where he himself will take the responsibility of his challenge, which in the course, by words, he accepted.

 Regarding the gold in the cave, I’m not the only one who questioned this issue, Before it came into my attention, it has been criticized in the whole networld about its authenticity…..the way it was presented. In analogy, the same way you are skeptical to those who are offering gold to you for sale, which turns out to be fake….which makes you furious….also.
There is no greed in this challenge, since in the beginning, If, Gboy will comply, the prizes are well divided as posted.

Why the big prizes? Others may asked… Why not?  others also ask……

Last question I will ask:

TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO RECOVER GOLD, DID THEY SHARE IT TO THOSE INDIGENTS AS PROMISED?

 Sometimes words are cheap….

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 06:59:17 PM
Angel_09,

If you and me can't agree on almost everything in YTH topics....like YTH infos, gold bars samples, pictures, site location and stuff....its understandable bcoz we always loves to ARGUE AND CRITICIZE EACH OTHER .....we are like OIL AND WATER...impossible to mix...our arguments always like.....CHICKEN AND EGG...

However, IF YOU REALLY VERY SERIOUS TO PROVE YOUR ALLEGED DOWSING SKILL......THEN WHY CAN'T YOU DOWSE THE LOCATION OF CENTRAL BANK VAULT FULL OF GOLD BARS wherein Gboy your nemesis is not involve or around?.. WHY you can't dowse even w/o me involve on that dowsing challenge?...Why can't you show it to others instead like locating CB gold vault instead? WHY? ...WHY?...WHY?.....bcoz YOU CAN'T DO IT !!!!!.....PERIOD.....an dami pa ngas2at alibi, di naman kaya.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
Tsk!...Tsk!...Tsk!.....

Words are really cheap nowadays....

Tsk!...Tsk!...Tsk!.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 07:09:53 PM
Angel_09,

We...TSEATC MEMBERS is your dowsing client.....We wanted to know the location of Central Bank Vault full of gold bars?
.....What you will gonna do?...reject us? Impose exuberant dowsing fee?....or simple impose your own req't like airline tickets, hotel bills and other impossible stuff?  ;D ;D ;D
How can we accept your terms...if you are not proven effective yet?...aber?
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
sir angel,


1.Is the area inhabited? yes sir....all the oldest man are saying....it is build long time ago...and the place was occupied by the japanese....there is a barrio near that place but thru boat is the transportation to reach the area and there is a big mountain separated that location....the location is beside the seashore foot of the mountain....so if you are in the sea you can see the cross monument....
2. Is the area in trail track? the area is beside the seashore foot of the mountain.
3. What type of wood is the wooden cross? it is a hardwood and the connection of the two wood to form the cross is also wood....the wood served as the nail of the two wood.
         -Was the wooden cross come to an age of 70 years? yes sir
         -If this wooden cross is exposed to athmosphere, definitely it will suffer "weathering" (rain/shine/cold/heat). i think sir it suffer but the wood still its shapes only cracks have......
4. Was the bottles in random position? Or was it intentionally put in that place with pattern? i think sir it was intentionally put cuase inside that bottle was pull of sand..if it is ententionally put why the bottle reach that area beside that filed rocks who have the cross on it. if you see my early post..... i draw the location of that bottle. from the location of the bottle down to the ground of that big rock. it measure around 7ft also same height of the cross...and sand cuase it is beside the seashore.
5. To check if there is a void covered by the concrete, try to put water on that area and check the rate of absorption of the ground. If the water quickly vanish, definitely it goes somewhere. From there on you can increase the volume of water and check again the result.
         -thanks sir for the tips
6. Check the soil under the concrete. Was it disturbed? Was it original top soil or soil coming from deeper source....i think sir yes....a common mountain soil. red color.

You see guys, treasure hunting is not just digging and conclusion at the end. It is always a puzzle...an art...just like a woman, you have to check and study every angle of the area so that it will give you a hint where to find the correct hole....if there is any.
            -yes sir thats why im here now posting this kind of things asking all your knowledge in treasure hunting as a newbei in this kind of adventure.


thank you so much sir for the reply.........god bless us









Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
Tsk!....Tsk!....Tsk!..... :) ;) :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 07:27:54 PM
Ghilbzberto,

You have been warned to be cautious in digging immediately...you still need in depth study or exploration on the target site before digging.

However, since your YTH companions are excited, eager to dig and maybe difficult to control their excitement.....MY SUGGESTION ...GO AHEAD...LET THEM DIG ;D ;D ;D....digging is a good cardiovascular exercise and digging excitement erase problems at home....anyways after useless diggings days. THEY WILL SOON LEARN AND REALIZE YTH LESSON THE HARD WAY.... Madalas kasi di natuto yan pag di naranasan magkanda laspag2 sa pahukay eh... ;D ;D ;D ....at least nakatulong ka madagdagan ang digging experiEnce lesson nila...thats important in YTH...learn your lesson ON THE FIELD.  ;D
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
sir maskara,



I am curious why your group is very excited and in a hurry is there an outside financial aspect involved, or are you the financier. If that's the case I'd rather advice you to back out, some sites are tailor made for scamming




-----only my colleague sir are in hurry....im not in hurry thats why im posting here the things...and also asking all of your knowledge cause im a newbei in this kind of adventure in treasure hunting.....im not the financier sir all of as are kkb(kanya kanyang budget) cause we are all ordinary citizens in our place.....thats the reason i post the markings and sign asking all of you about this things..


thanks a lot sir for the reply.........god bless us
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 07:40:21 PM
sir gboy,




salamat po ng marami sa advice................ pero ang tanong ko lang po is talaga bang treasure markings at sign yong mga na post ko..... at kong treasure marking nga at sign.....kaya mo po bang eh translate yong mga yon kong anu ibig sabihin ng mga yon.....sabi kasi ni sir swindler hidden treasure markings nga daw po yon at malaki.....at indi yamashita markings......



thanks a lot also....god bless us
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 07:43:16 PM
Ghilbzberto,

With your last information given, things are getting clearer now, but do not jump into conclusion yet. You said that the cross is approximately 70 years old, wheatherede, and joined together by wood as a fastener; did you know that Japanese are very efficient in joining woods without using any metal nails? It is an art to them. With that information, the 50 - 50 change became 51 - 49 percent in favor of positivity.

If someone knew how to dowse, make sure he really know how to, but ensure to couple it with metal detector as I have suggested to you.
Spend your time in analyzing the situation, conduct brain storming among your group. Ask even the most irrelevant questions everyone may think off and look for positive and negative answers. Do not involve your emotions, pride while doing it, but be make it by logic. Use the WHAT - WHO - WHERE -HOW  principles in attacking any problematic questions.

Do not spend money yet, just consider your visit in that place as a tour, sightseeing and problem solving, so that it will not dampen your spirit in case it turn out negative.

Most and for all, do not drink while doing discussion.
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: ghilbzberto on January 16, 2010, 07:55:09 PM
sir angel,



thank you sir..............thats why i did not mistaken to go in this site. . . . and also the bottle on that place who have japanese character on it...........before my early post sir swindler is saying that there is a presence of japanese in that area......and also my neighbors who is more than 70 years old is saying that the cross is already there when he got birth his father told him......



thanks again sir..........but i want to know what the sign and markings are saying...........this really a treasure markings and sign?




Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 16, 2010, 07:59:19 PM
Answer to your "last question",
Who knows bro but I will never even go questioning a guy who is very lucky he made a recovery, would it be possible he'd rather remain anonymous and silent when doing charitable work rather than announcing to everybody that he is the provider?
Don't you wanna be humble or rather be hype.

I am sorry if I am frank about your personal feud (jealousy, rivalry etc) like there's a grudge between you too, Let's admit it, it's evident when went to each other on some long time ago rivalry and until this time you did not yet get it over your head. 

Well, there's nothing wrong about it, you both have your own pride to fixed you spilled it over here and there's no secret about it, I really have a heavy heart saying it but things must be done to get you acting like a grown and responsible man.

Please do not take this on me, sometimes it matters to me, we've known each other here virtually for who we are.

Peace bro
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: MasKara on January 16, 2010, 08:16:59 PM
The history is good, the signs/markers I do not know, If your group are in hurry and not a single knowledge or clue where to start let even interpret the signs and markers, then you are making a very big mistake.
If you dig indiscriminately disturbING the markers, you will forever not trace the object, a single degree disturb maybe 10-20 meters you'll miss the object.

It's better to be careful even it will take you months or a year rather than digging hurriedly and blind without direction. It will be a total destruction.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 16, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
Jackbruno,,
 The Price i offered is from the bottom of my heart and even im not that rich as you think!!! You called it price but for me its a gift....That Php 20,000.00 is not small as im not giving a fortune here...If any person can provide bigger than that i guess should come out and top that up....I guess if TW cannot be able to handle the price then i think T44 should do it....I still prefer that challenge as really,,,there are many fraudster there so at least we can segregate fraudsters and real dowsers together......Members here should know that....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 16, 2010, 10:25:23 PM
JackBruno,

Swindler is offering incentives, not prize. In reality, as a good dowser, it should have been proven by themselves and should have had results in terms of treasure recovery. If not, still, we can consider it in the stage of experimenttation, which will be detrimental, pocket wise, to those who will go along with that dowser.

But I want to make it clear, not because a dowser is not succesful in one of his project, it does not mean that what he knows is not true.

The reasons:

1. Even sophisticated state of the art electronics equipment can't assure 100% of recovery.
2. Even a person have all the document, still he can't assure 100% recovery.
2. Even combinations of skills, detectors, dowsing can't promise 100% recovery, thus singling out dowsing as not effective will be a bias conclusion, and can be compared to the latest detector who can't provide 100% result..... will fall to the same category.

In my honest opinion, to have a succesful recovery, it must be a collective effort by the group, collective instruments (electronics/dowsing alike), good decisions, technical know how, objectivity, planning, physical and mental constraint, positive attitude and most of all let it rest to the hands of God, while they are doing the hard works. We look and seek, and God will provide......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 16, 2010, 10:54:07 PM
Swindler,

Solution for these Dowsing bruhahaha....Don't make it a DOWSING CHALLENGE bcoz am sure he will impose unreasonable demands.

Make it a DOWSING SERVICES...that way you will dictate the terms and location bcoz you are THE CLIENT who wanted to know the location of treasure or gold bars in a certain area. The Php 20,000 you are giving will be as dowsing service fee. (Actually dowsing charge in PI is only Php 500-1,000 max). If you pay Php 20K that is already pulse metal detector services....but since your generous let it be that way to prove if indeed dowsing works.

The target site location: Central Bank, Diliman Q.C.
Target object: To relocate the exact location of Central Bank Gold Vault
YTH Method used: Dowsing
Req't: If you find the gold vault, you will be paid...if not, you get nothing. Its the same with other services like fixing the car...if you can fix it, you get paid, if not...you get nothing...FAIR ENOUGH?

If he still doesn't want these dowsing services or there are no takers....ALAM MO NA KUNG BAKIT... ;D ;D ;D......MEANS DOWSING DOESN'T WORK...period....end of these dowsing subject.

BTW, I never claim that I own a treasure cave hoard bcoz somebody else owns it (nakikisuyo lang sana ako para gawin mga au samples sa Dowsing challenge). These treasure caves was owned by native au holders...duuuuunnn sa maalamat na bundok ng Susong Byuda  ;D....este.. Susong Dalaga... ;D ;D ;D......If nobody believes it, the better so that the secret and legend of Yam treas...lives on..and on.. ;D...until everybody is tired of chasing Yam treasures  >:(

IF NOBODY ACCEPT THE DOWSING SERVICES....END OF STORY....Tapos na palabas, .labasan na sa sinehan, entermission na....mani...pocorn....mani ...popcorn kayo dyan... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 17, 2010, 12:15:23 AM
Now tell me Maskara, who is acting NOT A GROWN MAN and RESPONSIBLE MAN....

Tsk!...Tsk!....Tsk!.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 17, 2010, 02:31:38 AM
Jackbruno,,
 The Price i offered is from the bottom of my heart and even im not that rich as you think!!! You called it price but for me its a gift....That Php 20,000.00 is not small as im not giving a fortune here...If any person can provide bigger than that i guess should come out and top that up....I guess if TW cannot be able to handle the price then i think T44 should do it....I still prefer that challenge as really,,,there are many fraudster there so at least we can segregate fraudsters and real dowsers together......Members here should know that....
Bro Swindler.
      You are way too generous offering 20 grand for prize money  and I suggest you retract that offer. Believers and skeptics about dowsing, that was where it  all started and it got blown way out of proportion. The real dowsers here need not travel far and wide to prove to everybody here that they can dowse and they can do it in front of their computers. If anybody wants to know more how this can be done, let me know but let us do it where it belongs. We are cluttering this topic of MARKS AND SYMBOLS, we should move it to where it belongs, to the topic DOWSING, where it really belongs. If you ask me, I would rather see this contest fade away and you know why.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Angel_09 on January 17, 2010, 03:18:43 AM
I agree with you T-44. I have felt it since the beginning of this issue. Let it fade away. No one and nobody will admit about each other's shortcomings.

I can only say one thing Swindler, you have shown the goodness of your heart....it is not the amount of money nor the weight of gold that matters, but the readiness of one's self to find what is true...it will be learned by everybody in due time.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 17, 2010, 03:37:58 AM
Err,,,2 of you guys are Honest  :'( I think i have to be with your options if thats so! Im sure you guys knows better than me....identifying troubles and people,,ya know what i mean.... ::)
Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: Angel_09 on January 17, 2010, 05:13:54 AM
ghilbzberto,

The sign of cross signifies a hidden void, shaft or tunnel. That cross signifies that this shaft is within the vicinity where the cross is located.

Since it will be very hard for me to detail everything, I suggest to your group to check above 70meters from where the cross is located.

(don't think that you are now looking for gold, just think you are doing some exploration on the area, and document or write down ALL unsual things you will observe.

Since that area is sloping, check for skinning of mountain surface for any unusual group of stones. (That will be way above the cross).

Title: Re: any one can help me confirmed if it is yamashita treasure markings
Post by: boylara on January 17, 2010, 06:31:36 AM
ghilbzberto, not a treasure site, don't waste your money....what you can find in that area will be bones of people.. Move 5 meters to the east, locate the old tree dig for 1.5 meters, presko, but before that pray....:-)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 17, 2010, 06:35:33 AM
The TRUTH is NO ONE IS STUPID enough to say HEY I fOUND a Yama Treasure...except if your crazy like me...hahahahaha joke lng...wag na kayong magpagalingan, magtulungan na lng.. In unity we are United, in asaran we will be divided...hehehehehe...hirap buhay ngayon walang trabaho...hirap pala maghanap ng trabaho dito sa manila...2 weeks na ko dito wala pang mahanap...tsk tsk..balik na lng kaya ako sa bundok at magtanim na lang, malay ko baka makatama ng AU ....
Title: Markers from other sites
Post by: boylara on January 17, 2010, 07:25:32 AM
for our eyes only
Title: Re: Markers from other sites
Post by: boylara on January 17, 2010, 07:27:12 AM
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Title: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: D.M on January 17, 2010, 05:00:10 PM
Guys what you think of these stones
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: MasKara on January 17, 2010, 06:32:35 PM
TW, I observe that if someone posted something they create a new topic although the topic is already existing in another forum, can you please consolidate all that are similar, like MARKS AND SYMBOL, FAKE GOLD BARS, etc. so that we can follow which is which.

There were to many topic created that it should only fall in one topic, we have to traverse and jump from the same topic to another forum they are already actually being discuss in another forum with similar subject.

That's what T44 is always saying, the topic is already being discuss on another topic and there is no need to duplicate it and create another one.
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: Gener on January 17, 2010, 09:44:08 PM
Cant avoid the topic mixtures sometimes if there are co-related subjects but really there are many articles who were mixed perhaps unintended due to confused interractions with the members,,,it just got out of control sometimes due to unparalleled comments...many members are just too active and thats tops the problem...many simply wanted to participate not knowing the location....
Title: Re: pls'' help; KANJI....???
Post by: Gener on January 17, 2010, 09:51:08 PM
Yeah! You will get the answer there...we are creating topics that is already existing and we may perhaps get confused.....
Title: Re: Markers from other sites
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 17, 2010, 09:56:07 PM
Boylara,
      Please do not be a part of the problem by adding another topic of the same category as one that is already existing and that is Marks and Symbols of Yamashita Treasures. Give us a break. do not make it more harder for us, there is already enough clutter here. Thanks. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Markers from other sites
Post by: Gener on January 17, 2010, 09:56:17 PM
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Markers from other sites
Post by: MasKara on January 17, 2010, 11:34:12 PM
Boylara,
      Please do not be a part of the problem by adding another topic of the same category as one that is already existing and that is Marks and Symbols of Yamashita Treasures. Give us a break. do not make it more harder for us, there is already enough clutter here. Thanks. ::) ::) ::)

TH44, I already brought this up to TW, I ask him if he can consolidate all topics with similar subject. I find it annoying to shift from every topic with the same subject.
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: MasKara on January 18, 2010, 12:01:08 AM
Swindler you are right but all newbie has to do is go to the HOME page and look for the topic he want to discuss, if he can't find one then he can create a new topic.

I posted a comment a few months ago about creating similar topic when somebody created"FAKE GOLD BARS", (was that you? just asking) there is already a topic about that under "REAL OR FAKE GOLD BARS".

Now there are several topics being created of the same subject and we have to jumble from same topic to similar topic.
It's getting crazy. There should be control.
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: boylara on January 18, 2010, 04:48:39 AM
Tony make me a moderator of yamashia forum and i will help you in the maintenance of the site..
Title: Re: Markers from other sites
Post by: boylara on January 18, 2010, 04:50:34 AM
hahahahaha...Tony Well make me a moderator of this forum i will help you maintain the site...
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: admin on January 18, 2010, 05:41:59 AM
MasKara,

You are absolutely right. I was just thinking about doing that. Actually, didn't I make you a moderator a long time ago?

Boylara, good idea. I'll do that for you. Thanks!

TW
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: MasKara on January 18, 2010, 08:20:25 AM
MasKara,

You are absolutely right. I was just thinking about doing that. Actually, didn't I make you a moderator a long time ago?

Boylara, good idea. I'll do that for you. Thanks!

TW

Yeah TW, I am the moderator on the "REAL OR FAKE GOLD BARS?" maybe you must transfer the other similar topics to this forum. That's why I posted a comment when another similar topic about Fake Gold bars was created.

Bro  BoyLara can be the moderator on "MARKS AND SYMBOLS"
Bro TH44 on "PARANORMAL"
And maybe you can also create one for bro Angel (DOWSING AND MD INSTRUMENTS).
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 18, 2010, 08:29:05 AM
to my fellow hunters esp. swindler,angel,and maskara,

you don't understand!its not all about money for us(cebuano hunters)its all about honor,pride and dignity(pagkatao po namin ang pusta dito)!dowsing in thunting world remains mystery to some or a floating feathers to others and we want to proved that dowsing does works scientifically and they are wrong!and the prices are somewhat like trophy to us even ours childrens children can remember and make proud to our achivements!remember those american skeptics offered great amount to those who can proved it and somewhat its worthy.to make you understandble i give you a good example just Manny pacquiao wins a championship belt he also wins huge amount bec. he is worthy.

anyway,someday if my partner and i can go to the sweet and pain. we will challenge those skeptics and we promise that this forum should be the first to know..malas lang nong una dahil hindi na approved ang visa ng partner ko.

with regards to swindler heartily offering(hope so) we will accept that incentives as long it will held here in cebu.just tell us your terms and agreements.kung gusto nyo po may media coverage pwede po mangyari brow o kung gusto nyo na nakakasiguro kayo sa seguridad nyo pwede din natin gawin sa munisipyo o any safe gov't office or any places as long as you have connection para fair po tayo.

boylara,

nagkamali po kayo brow!hindi po kami nagpagalingan dito.

thunter,

kung nabasa mo sa dowsing section,nag post din ako.

gboy,

don't be moron brow!ibihin mo kaming mga bisaya !we are more on action than on talking pero nag-iisip at nag plano din kami bago namin gawin kung hindi kami ganyan sayang lang ang pag pa aral ng mga magulang namin.sana ganun karin pra hindi masayang yung karunungan mo.

in every action there is a reaction and in a situation there must be a reason not unreasonable as you thought.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 18, 2010, 08:50:38 AM
land of sweet and pain-america

tw,

ty brow!its alright i understand your situation.

GB!

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 18, 2010, 09:08:20 AM
JacKruno, I think you are taking our comments the opposite way, my objective is to be vigilant you know that not all dowsers are real or some are not yet good at it although they can dowse. I did not say that I do not believe dowsers, our group use also dowsers, mediums, third eye and some MD instruments and all kinds in between you can imagine but because we were like the very eager TH, we did not ask or bother to challenge first their capability before we use them. So the result is all the time we ran out of finance that was some 30 years ago and only after 15 yrs when I realized that not all person are honest they only care for your money and that hit me in the head to use common sense.

I only do TH when I am very sure that there really is to hope, I do not do it regularly now and totally stop chasing my Yamashita dreams. I do not anymore listen to hearsay or stories, not even maps or pointers until everything is verified and I am satisfied.
Instead I decided if there is Yam Treasure out there for sure I can find it even by not diging for it but instead to look for already recovered Yam Treas. Ask Gboy he was a buyer before he became a TH and now we are opposite, because he can't find a recovered Treasure so he decided to pursue the undiscovered.
But today there are so much going around that you can't anymore know which is which, 20 years ago it was very different story and playing field.

BTW I got involve when I was still 14 (1978) years old not digging but tagging along with some pioneer THAPI on some parts of Luzon. I am not an expert but I have the experienced. I do not know if you are way younger than me, maybe you are more experienced so educate me.

IF I can't understand it until now, I do not know if I need another 30 yrs to understand it after 31 years of TH.
Title: Re: Anyone can help me Interprete with these stone?
Post by: admin on January 18, 2010, 10:57:14 AM
MasKara,

OK let me fix that ASAP.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 18, 2010, 11:03:19 AM
land of sweet and pain-america

TW,

ty brow!its alright i understand your situation.

GB!

JacKruno,

Are you there in Cebu? Actually, we're busy trying to raise funds now for our Pirate Rendezvous/Fortress and Real Estate project which will be in Aloguinsan. When I come there to Cebu let's try to meet up sometime when we're both free.

TW
Title: Re: pls'' help; KANJI....???
Post by: MasKara on January 18, 2010, 07:59:56 PM
hello people... my first time to post here... MABUHAY MGA TREASURE HUNTERS...
need help lang kung ano ibig dito.. or somebody knows this japs marker...

(http://i49.tinypic.com/23kylj.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/15eiag6.jpg)

Bro, For those who wanted to comment.
Your topic of "help; KANJI" was merge here. The topic falls on this Board.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 18, 2010, 08:38:53 PM
Jackbruno,

"don't be moron brow!ibihin mo kaming mga bisaya !we are more on action than on talking pero nag-iisip at nag plano din kami bago namin gawin kung hindi kami ganyan sayang lang ang pag pa aral ng mga magulang namin.sana ganun karin pra hindi masayang yung karunungan mo.
in every action there is a reaction and in a situation there must be a reason not unreasonable as you thought."

Ay sus natuod kam na epekteb an dowsing? Hain man an pruweba aber nga epekteb itun? May nakita kam bulawan gamit an dowsing? Tama kam perme kam action...nasobrahan sa aksyon panay kalut sa yuta? waray katapusan kalut sa yuta kay dowsing man iyo gamit, KALIPUNAGN NIYO >:( Di kam namamate sa mga sagdun san beterano sa TH dinhe. Kun nagpipinsar kam...hain man an mga bulawan san iyo pag perme gamit san dowsing ug para kalut sa yuta, aber? waray la guihapon? magpakita ka anay resulta kun epekted im dowsing, ayaw anay pag para yaw2 dida...DUGAY NA KAM SA PAG PARA GAMIT DOWSING SA TH...TONTO LA KAM GUIHAPON.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 18, 2010, 09:49:57 PM
Jack my brother,
 We are not measuring your talent, Im just trying to segregate or to know those fake dowsers from real..right now i knew ONE person who is really capable in dowsing that can even foresee anyones personality and in no way you can lie to this man (very lucky TSEATC to have him indeed) and as the experience of mascara,,,,I am with him, there are lot lot of good impostors who are witty enough to say that they can do dowsing while they cannot, they just wanted to do some quick cash and personally i knew many of them there in luzon.....Dont worry,,,I think im visiting Cebu anyway to meet my friend there who is the owner of "SUBOCHON"...Ill push to meet you there....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 18, 2010, 10:10:28 PM
KING,
 That letter says,,,MILITARY CAMP AHEAD,,,but the thing is,,,its written wrongly..It does not mean a camp exactly, it could be a hiding tunnel, barracks or a depot....any tunnel nearby around 100 meters away???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 19, 2010, 04:44:25 AM
I dont know the bearing??? i dont know where is north or south here??? ???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 19, 2010, 09:35:16 AM
swindler,

sure brow,its my pleasure to meet you.i assure you we are not hypocrites we are trying to help others,kaya lang in other way.everytime we detected a certain area eventhough it's negative we try to explain to them and share our little knowledge.kahit papaano nakatulong kami.nagtuturo din kami dito sa mga baguhan na hindi marunong gumamit ng kanilang MD's o mga aparato na may kaalaman kami for free.

tw,

we are cebu based,anytime sir!

maskara,

just don't quit brow,be optimistic for an optimistic always see opportunities in every difficulties.ive just explain also my side that maybe others failed to understand.just like you,we are always vigilant!
kaya nga kami pursigido na magkaroon ng Dowsing challenge para rin magkaroon ng kaliwanagan about dowsing.

gboy,

tan-awa ra.pasweto sweto pero oplok diay.do gboy sud sa 20 ka tuig oplok ka ghapon..pag ka toytoy nimo!

brow, kung ganyan palagi ang ugali mo sigurado akong mahirapan kang makahanap ng Yam treasure dahil puro ka daldal...hindi mo yata na intindihan ang post ko..if you continue your moronic attitude brow kahit mga loose treasure katulad nito(see pics brow)ay mahirapan ka.btw,my own locator ang ginamit ko nyan FYI.dowsing is only my 2nd instrument that I try to master.EM scanners is top on my list.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 19, 2010, 05:23:02 PM
Pareng Gboy, wag highblood. tama na yun debate or argument dito...tulungan na lang tayo pre..dito ko manila ngayon....hehehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on January 19, 2010, 05:45:29 PM
jackburno magkano service nyu? wala bang libreng detect sa amin lng ang plete og pagkaon. if ever lng kung may magandang site kami. hehehe nasa cebu din kami. sharing lng kung meron laman. taga Lapu-Lapu ka tol?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 19, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Jackbruno,

tan-awa ra.pasweto sweto pero oplok diay.do gboy sud sa 20 ka tuig oplok ka ghapon..pag ka toytoy nimo!
brow, kung ganyan palagi ang ugali mo sigurado akong mahirapan kang makahanap ng Yam treasure dahil puro ka daldal...hindi mo yata na intindihan ang post ko..if you continue your moronic attitude brow kahit mga loose treasure katulad nito(see pics brow)ay mahirapan ka.btw,my own locator ang ginamit ko nyan FYI.dowsing is only my 2nd instrument that I try to master.EM scanners is top on my

   Bugok ka pala eh...FYI, nakita na namin ang hinahanap namin. Ikaw magpakita ka prweba mo kung epektib ba dowsing mo. Useless electromags mo kung engot ang gumagamit...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 19, 2010, 06:37:04 PM
Jackbruno,

Engot ka pala eh...barya2 lang pinagmamalaki mo na, akala mo masisindak ako sa barya2 na yan...na ang halaga nyan lahat baka hinde nga makabili ng brief o medyas mo yan eh. Ok na sana pinagmamalaki pa ang coins picture mo  ;D ;D ;D komedyante ka ba o bobo ka lang talaga. Hoy Yamashita TH eto....mga gold bars ang target dito, kung pinagmamayabang mo barya2 coins mo...dun mo ipagmalaki sa coin hunting forum baka sakali may bumilib pa syo...gago  :oa
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 19, 2010, 08:48:37 PM
Boy Lara,

Dito ka pala Manila, Txt you later if I have time....I wanted to show you something...that hopefully would make you drool and eyes roll   ::). I'll bet you will not be able to count whats in there? ;D

Clue: This treas hoard inside tunnel was on our treas list (treas site # 63). I was surprised that finally they found it last year, by my YTH friend (you know him). 
Right now, there are still a running gun battle on several provinces (ambushed here and there)  between my YTH friend team and the "local mafia guys" who wanted to get their treas hoard. Both sides have lost more or less 40 men already. My YTH friend was hit in the gut and will be under surgery in the US.
According to my YTH friend, if his surgery is successful and if everything....cools down....or if all the YTH combatants are already dead....that's where we comes in and photo ops ;D

In 1990's this Japs camp site was tighly guarded by 2 Japs straggler ( Lt and Col), we tried to facilitate for their surrender but didn't push thru due to our lack of budget. Thru the years due to my YTH friend hard work and persistence the stragglers finally gave way and give these site to him. According to the Japs Col,  it took the Japs army years to put the hoard in there and it will never be hauled them all, even in our lifetime...grabe sa dami noh? 

One good thing though....we have another "undeniable proof that Yam treasure do exist or au stockpile inside tunnel"....Dre, this picture is for your eyes only  :-*
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Jhie on January 19, 2010, 09:56:03 PM
Good day!

Ask ko lang po sa mga experts if what i've observed in my site is related to water trap. During my visit last sunday afternoon it was raining...but not heavy. Sa dried creek po ay may lumalabas na tubig which volume is parang pang maliit na sapa. Pagpunta ko sa unahan ng creek wala namang pong tubig. At a distance of approximately 2 meters nag si sip po ang water sa ilalim. There are big boulders with markings kaya lang di ko nakunan  clearly kasi po maulan at marami pong dried leaves ang area. I can post some pics pero it wasn't clear. Kindly help me po interpret this signs ang marking i've gathered. Some may not be markers...please comment po. Next visit ko po sa area lilinisin ko muna boulders before ko kukunan ng pic for clearer and accurate interpretation. Yong may encircle po na parang triangle na nakaturo sa Letter "J" ay parang semento na idinikit lang po on top of the boulder.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 20, 2010, 12:00:57 AM
Jhie,
 Im not sure if they are markers to me but better if you can photo it clearer...And "J"(if j) means natural tunnel having an entrance from the top. not a tunnel from the wall or cliff but from the flat ground. The watertrap you are saying may not be a watertrap at all (im not sure) but its a natural occurence of caving eroded underground and enough to make a natural underground river...this can happen likely on the areas where trees and big slopes are found...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 20, 2010, 01:39:52 AM
Jhie, wala natural rocks mga yan, dami na kong nakitang ganyan..nature ang gumawa nyan...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 20, 2010, 02:13:40 AM
Jhie.
    Next time you take pictures, focus your camera straight to the subject and not angled and I recommend that the rock is dry as the wetness of the rock will show a shine and it deflects your flash. Not an expert here but I have my sources and intuition that your site is still positive even if the Japanese got off with something or the Filipino Group that took off with a heavy box was just small change. Take my advice, PM Swindler. We have done our test and you know what I can do. If I can do what I proved to you, how much more if I am there, think about that. Take care.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 20, 2010, 02:21:12 AM
Thanks T44, got that!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Jhie on January 20, 2010, 03:32:44 AM
thanks Bros for the comments. I appreciate it.

Bro Swindler...if "J" means tunnel...then there "it has". Just very near those big boulders. As to underground river...i can say again "maybe" coz the hunter who is digging on the area told me that they have reach a water flowing under ground. Im planning to have it covered nga po.

Bro T-44...I'll take that advice po...next time po i'll go there pag maganda ang weather and i'll let my hubby do the picture taking. Ako lang kasi kumuha ng mga pics at random pa nga kasi di ko rin makita masyado kung may mga marks nga o natural lang. Yong rock1 ay may kaparehas na rock na located sa ibabaw ng tunnel kaya lang parang may footmark (i mean yong tunnel po kasi nasa side ng dried creek at sa ibabaw niya ay may mga agricultural plants). Hindi ko na nakunan ng pic kasi nasa itaas na ko naiwan camera sa car.

Sir Boy...thanks for the comment...maybe natural rocks nga lang po yong ibang rocks...i'll just take some other pics po pag okey weather para naman just in case meron ngang tunay na markings ay ma interpret niyo po.

Sabi ng tiyuhin ko ng pinasok daw po nila noon ang tunnel ay may cieling na yero. Hindi kami makapasok ngayon kasi po yong mga naghukay na hunters ay tinakpan ang daanan papasok sa tunnel.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 20, 2010, 04:18:11 AM
Guys.. and Girls,

Looks like more and more Tagolog writing going on here. Please try to keep your post in ENGLISH so all of us can understand.

Thanks!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 20, 2010, 03:06:03 PM
Yea your right Tony, sometime due to our excitement to share our info, we post it in Tagalog, hopefully we can translate it in English..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on January 20, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
 :-[ admin what happen to your wsite. nalilibog ako!! Main board "Treasure sites/child board all treasure sites including Yamashita Treasure/under Yamashita treasure all topic related to yamashita.. Suggestion lng those main board with word "Yamashita" must under in Treasure Sites/Yamashita Treasure/all Yamashita related talk.. and much better to put some picture or logo beside the each main board related to its title, and change My Community to TSEATC Forum Board> 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 21, 2010, 01:04:27 AM
Bro Bisaya do not worry we will put all the topic under Yam TH. we are working on it.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on January 21, 2010, 04:01:20 AM
Bisaya,

Yes, you're correct. We're busy now trying to sort it out and make it easier to find all the exact forum message topics. Please bare with us while we're doing that. MasKara and Boylara are in charge of monitoring these Yamashita boards also..

Thanks,
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on January 21, 2010, 08:52:38 AM
gboy,

bilib talaga ako sa yo hindi kalang haring gangis haring bobo rin!payo ko po sa inyo.magbago ka na!mahirapan ka nga mka recover ng barya barya lang how much more yung katulad nito(see pics po,buti nlang pumayag yung naghire namin dyan)hindi mo yata naitindihan yung post ko.nagturo nga kami dito sa mga bagohan.plano ko nga i share ko sa inyo o dito sa forum na ito yung mga scan results,d bale nalang hindi mo rin lang maintindihan.baka empty na yan!

wag masyadong high blood agad,kaya pala marami kang kaaway.arogante ka pala.siguro takas ka sa mintal ano?

tw,

sorry for posting in tagalog,i intend to write in tagalog so that gboy can understand clearly!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: MasKara on January 21, 2010, 08:57:12 AM
Bro, Jack if you convey your message in Tagalog, please also translate it in English out of respect to other who do not understand Tagalog, That's TW's rule and we must stick to it.

Cheers,

BTW what's the ilocano and tagalog translation of "cheers"? and what is that you found in the cave?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 21, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
Jackbruno,
      Sometimes it is very difficult to keep silent and walk away from an argument but that  is where men are separated from the boys and I could say that it makes you more a man if you just ignore and completely disregard negative remarks against you for you know who you are, why go down to their level. Another thing is it makes it more difficult for us readers as we spend time reading these negative postings and it occupies space and next thing you know this forum will turn to be like the Ming Forum, and we are trying to avoid that. We are here to learn from each other and positive information is more beneficial to all of us. Enough said.
      Concerning the picture you just posted, what is it ? Looks like something is emblazoned on the side but cannot discern it. Anyway, it looks like a good find.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 22, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
Ghilberto,
 If you are near my path,,why not! its always much better if i can see the place myself...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 23, 2010, 12:22:10 AM
this mark was discovered last week by a group of TH here in Cagayan Valley...Any one who can decipher??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 23, 2010, 12:51:29 AM
BOY,
 The attachment is too small,,,make it bigger,,i cant read it!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on January 23, 2010, 06:01:46 AM
Jackbruno,

I do not need to treasure hunt loose dilapidated old coins, engot lang gumagawa nyan or baka wala kang Japs treas sites kaya pati ba naman barya2 sa tabi2 pinapatulan at pinagtyatyagaan mo pa? susmaryosep kawawa ka naman pala. Besides my piggy bank is already full of coins.  Pang low level lang ang barya2 mo, higher level (au) na ako eh, kaya di tayo magkalevel  ;D ;D ;D

Your picture on the cave looks like an old biscuit can, isn't it ?
FYI: I don't like expired biscuits, old cans or japs garbage... WALANG SILBE YAN EH.
I prefer picture of gold bars , oks ba?  ;D

Ako tuturuan mo ng EM scan results? Excuse me, am a former semicon eng'r (ece) kaya I know how semicon/atoms works inside an electromags, baka ikaw scrutinize ko how EM works...baka di mo alam?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: takara on January 23, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
"those who forget history are bound to repeat it"

GBOY the great tract record is all over the world wide web...

im seeing a rerun here...lumang tugtugin nato...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 23, 2010, 09:05:36 PM
***I Have a great respect to those posting "MARK and SYMBOLS of YAMASHITA TREASURE" (photos) on this trend.This trend becomes meaningful...

HARI,
 Sorry, i cant visualize your marker..its too far and focused on one area only :-\
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on January 24, 2010, 01:29:56 AM
how about this one?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on January 24, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
Swindler,
       The real Kanji Characters is disputed. Daikanwa Jiten Dictionary contains 50,000 characters and 530,000 compound words but more recent Chinese Dictionaries contain 80,000 or more characters and then there is the Hiragana and the Katakana. If you ask me, it will take a lifetime to study Kanji. I printed the Kanji characters that was on the rock that was posted here and my wife took it to work to show to the Japanese nationals working there as Kyocera is a Japanese company and they do not know what they are, even the older Japanese there has no idea what it is. There has to be an easier way of learning Kanji and its meaning but right now I am at odds where to start as a symbol sometimes has different meanings. If you know Kanji, more power to you. I guess I'll just stick with my dowsing rods, it works for me !   ;) ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 24, 2010, 09:09:47 PM
I have few knowledge about Khanji as was thought when i was still in japan few years back but its not good enough BUT i have an old jap refferal friend who was THERE before but hes too old now...Thats why i said something is wrong with it as the script is not really right, it was even written like elementary and besides,,,letters are not in order like copied from something.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 25, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
ok try this
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 25, 2010, 09:49:32 PM
BoyLara,
 **From where this arrow found & directed "Horizon-Ahead-6mts-Stop-Down-Vertical @ 4 mtrs"... GOODLUCK!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 25, 2010, 10:33:04 PM
thanks swindler....your right..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 28, 2010, 04:50:19 AM
swindler, they will try to dig what you have interpreted, they will be using Backhoe....any suggestion..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on January 29, 2010, 09:48:13 PM
Backhoe is Fast but im not sure if its safe for the rest of markers if there is...but im sure its there,,,and markers are rare...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on January 31, 2010, 05:26:11 PM
from other sites..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 01, 2010, 01:03:31 AM
Treasure rock1,,very rich marker indeed!!! san ba yan?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 01, 2010, 11:37:55 PM
Gentlemen,

HHHHmmmm...its seems everybody wanted to show their well kept secret Japs rock....
Fine....I will show also my japs rock.....since we are BORED and can't do anything with these Japs rock anyway, why don't we collide our rocks lets see who's rock is hardest or stronger.... ;D

The IRON SPIKE JAPS ROCK below is my bet  ;D ;D ;D .....lets see if your rock can beat my rock  ;D

HOY ILABAS NYO NA ANG PAMBATO (pamato) YONG MGA BATO DYAN....PAG UNTUGIN NATIN ANG MGA BATO,TINGNAN NATIN KUNG SINO ANG TIGASIN NA BATO......OOOHHHAAAA?
 Panu ba yan mga parekoy, may bakal ang bato ko tingnan natin pag di magkadurog2 mga bato nyo hahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 02, 2010, 06:52:42 AM
yan yun kay gboy
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 02, 2010, 07:06:48 AM
tunnel
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 02, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Boy,

Okey yong Japs tunnel mo ah....Do you want to know if it had treasure or not?
Its simple, Let one of your brave YTH companion stay or sleep overnight inside that tunnel....if he was visited by Japs ghost then probably it had treasure hehehe  ;D ;D ;D

It happened to one of my YTH friend, somewhere in Montalban tunnel. Since they are fond of roaming inside japs tunnel....suddenly they heard moaning and marching sounds....all hell broke lose, nagkaletse2 na ;D...nagkauntog2 at nagkabukol2 sila katatakbo palabas ng tunnel, grabe ang nerbyos ng grupo..hahaha.
Tiningnan namin ang video photage inside tunnel...talagang may white ghost marching...kaya simula nun, di na kami basta2 pumapasok sa tunnel, pinapauna muna namin ang kasama namin TIGASIN (taga saing, taga luto) ...hehehe ;D.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 02, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
dami pang tunnel, si Capm dami nyang site yan, naka gps pa lahat, talo na nga namin mga taga DENR kung pag usapan yun location at yun loob ng tunnel...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 03, 2010, 02:21:54 AM
Boy,

    Actually, Tunnel sites are good treasure leads but based on our infos and experience...usually open tunnel sites are more difficult, sometimes they are barred down hundred meters. Abutin kayo siyam2 or magkanda laspag2 kahuhukay. Remember Japs are not stupid to put treasure easily on open tunnel.
     The only exemption if it is in remote jungle area, usually an open tunnel site had treasure due to remoteness of the area. However if the open tunnel is near town or barrio, usually its difficult.
    You have a good chance if you have a live japs straggler or treasure map, if not......its difficult. Kaya iniiwasan namin tunnel sites. Imaginen mo na lang ang hirap pag ukit nila ng tunnel na yan lalo na pag solid rock, tapos basta2 na lang ipapapamigay ang treasure...hinde ah...tyak mahirap din yan.
     Its better if it is closed tunnel and you opened it at least you have a good chance. However if its an open tunnel near town, we avoided it bcoz its difficult..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on February 05, 2010, 03:44:14 AM
HELLO SIR'S.. SWINDLER,GENER AND OTHER EXPERT PLS.

ARE WE IN RYT TRACK OR A DUMMY WERE NOW AT 65 FEET AND WE ENCOUNTER ANOTHER LAYER WITH A DRAWING OF SUN. WHAT IS SUN? HOW CAN WE
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on February 05, 2010, 03:19:30 PM
Bisaya,
       Go to MAIN, click on PHILIPPINES and click on THAPI Marks, Codes and Symbols, its there. This is what I like in these forum, very informative and has great members, learn to utilize  the information here. Take care.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on February 05, 2010, 09:39:08 PM
sir t_hunter thanks for the reply, but what is 9 spokes means? And sir what is the purpose of this cylinder hole? From the X mark can we determine what deep is the item?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 05, 2010, 09:49:49 PM
Yeah,,,Check the thapi markers,,,its very informative,,,if you found nothing matching your site then come back to us...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 05, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
hello guys, i just wanna ask if is this a treasure marker? (see picture below) a two birds one is flying and another one is beside him. if it is positive what is the meaning of it? many thanks as always.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 05, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
another angle from the same boulder...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 07, 2010, 01:42:37 AM
hello brothers in TH

i have a hole 28 feet deep now, searching for war booties, but the problem is i only keep on getting some stones and cement shapes. some pcs of steel and porcelain, i wonder if this things are connected to buried japanese loot?

your precious advice is much needed.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 07, 2010, 01:50:39 AM
the stone heart at the back have a stairway engrave i suppose... and thos are two stones glued by cement to form a heart with tail? ,...again i suppose.

and also this ceramic with rusted wire we found at 27feet buried in bluish  hard clay..

and some materials along the way 20 to 28 feet.

thanks and godbless to all
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 07, 2010, 02:15:48 AM
encountered this things from 20 to 28 feet deep
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 07, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
HELLO SIR'S.. SWINDLER,GENER AND OTHER EXPERT PLS.

ARE WE IN RYT TRACK OR A DUMMY WERE NOW AT 65 FEET AND WE ENCOUNTER ANOTHER LAYER WITH A DRAWING OF SUN. WHAT IS SUN? HOW CAN WE
BISAYA,
 A & X signs are good signs indeed! A-means DIG DOWN while X means HERE so it if you connect it DIG DOWN HERE,,, cylinders represent continues downward movement, "BUT" sometimes it actually leads to wrong location as to make you believe that the treasure is actually on the concrete with sun marker....So try also to widen your search on the level where this "A" were found! they may used it as an arrow pointing the treasure,,its a next option only if you found nothing on that cement with sun marking....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 07, 2010, 02:44:05 AM
sir boylara, sir t_hunter44 and sir swindler..

is this a japanese tresure marker? (see picture below) many thnaks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 07, 2010, 02:46:11 AM
another angle from same boulder
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 07, 2010, 05:25:50 AM
Goldbar69,
 are you from tarlac?,,Your marker seems to be carved by the great nature..We cannot conclude markers like this one..This are just markers of treasure frustrations or Gboy says pigment of imagination. Try to study a lot of real markers posted here by boylara,,85% of them are true markers done by human....Sorry bro!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on February 08, 2010, 07:49:35 PM
hello po
any idea regarding this stone sign....some say that it is a general sign.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 08, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
sir swindler thanks for your time i appreciate it. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 09, 2010, 09:27:49 PM
SLIDER,
 Where did you get this sign marker???,,,Bring this with you in the convention...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: slider on February 10, 2010, 10:11:35 PM
I'll try to convince my friend to borrow this sign of his. i'll try to ask him if he also likes to join our group. salamat po
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on February 11, 2010, 05:22:11 AM
I tried to follow the trend of these forum posts but I cannot as so  much is posted in Tagalog, and then a mixture of both. For those who "do not" speak tagalog, we are now totally lost......which also makes it so hard for us to contribute to the said topics.... :-[
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on February 12, 2010, 01:43:09 AM
hello people..

to swindler...

                 bro, do you have some idea about this marker, i found this beside from a creek.
                 (see photos)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/14958xv.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/331qauh.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2wfp7pg.jpg)

and also this a distance away...
(http://i48.tinypic.com/24yzrkx.jpg)

and this from another location..
a distance away from seashore..
(http://i48.tinypic.com/j15bmr.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/24cfqlu.jpg)


thank you.. or anybody can read or have an idea...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D.M on February 12, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
I truly appreciate the posting of the signs and symbols in the web. It help a lot of people and that Include me.

Thank you.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghilbzberto on February 13, 2010, 07:39:55 PM
sir boy,



what this RM means? thanks a lot in advance for the info
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: twobox on February 15, 2010, 04:51:36 PM
Maybe refference mark...hope that helps
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 15, 2010, 09:17:16 PM
sir boy,


what this RM means? thanks a lot in advance for the info
 

"UNDER THE 2ND FRUIT TREE" a tree bears yellow & juicy fruit and name derives from the philippine national animal..... ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghilbzberto on February 16, 2010, 12:59:12 AM
thanks sir gener for the reply...... god bless you always
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 17, 2010, 01:56:34 AM
The problem is,,,this maybe not a treasure,,,this may just an UXO! or Un-Xploded-Ordnance hidden by the allies...im not sure anyway... :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on February 17, 2010, 03:47:09 AM
Anyone experience in their digging a smells, smells like walling-walling flower were in 75ft ryt now? What is this smells?.. and sir Swindler and other whats the meaning of BAyonet carve and pointing downward? and this circle with a lot of small races like a SUN but had a lot of races drawn in a cement flat wall at 70+ ft? And what are the signs that usually encountered that indicates that your very near to the object?  Thanks in advance..

 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 04:44:10 AM
hello to :
maskara , angel o9, gboy, boy lara, two box, swindler, fernando , fransisco, slider, cap miwa ,
t44, gener,gilbhertzo,dindo, goldbar 69, bisaya,janner, king. and to all TH here! specially Admin. Tony Wells!

its been a while , just got reactivated, started a site 4 yeras ago, had to stop because i felt i was going nowhere, maybe this coming dry season i would start searching again,

guys can you give your personal interpretations to some of my markers found buried?
just for future references.

a lot of thanks people!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 17, 2010, 05:52:10 AM
G88,
 I thought you did not stop your site? show also the gold inside the urn as they are magnificient signs....they actually got their giveaway AUs and waiting to retrieve the main....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on February 17, 2010, 06:38:56 AM
Welcome back, Goldbar 888.
You mean you found all those items at what depth? I'm no sign and symbol expert but even I can tell that definitely those are all MAN MADE.
Good luck with your site!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 17, 2010, 07:03:46 AM
hi swindler, hi mr. tony wells!

yes i found this things buried in different levels and in different spots in one property that use to be a japanese officers house.

i guess i stopped for a while to soul search and to investigate more.. i do believe lots of information can help us solve this enigma, the site is a jap navy garisson. they called it daisako boshike back then. no river or ocean near it but the biggest railroad train station of tarlac is 15 meters away. all the people evacuated here during 1941 to 44 went far away to hide. japanese navy are very cruel, and sadistic. they have no mercy for helpless people.

gibo teodoro and the late pres. cory aquino and danding and peping cojuangco was born here just a block away..even their parents evacuated and not spared by the cruelty of the japanese.

i would like to show this markers to educate our fellow treasure hunters about japanese treasure signs. you can find some of this markers in your code books, showing us that theres  a part of truth about certain markers pointed by the books. .... only the meaning is doubtfull


i also would like to show our TH friends the layers i got in bore drill sampling. just to give you an idea to compare your layers in your digging.


i would like to show you fulcrum markers, concealed culvert water wells. cemented archs, halfmoon signs. everything i discovered i will share with you.

we must not keep this things to ourselves.
on the contrary we must let our fellow TH see and compare and analyze.

this are on hand experiences digging a suppose to be one treasure site.

sorry admin. i must flood you with pictures, in order for all to see what i am talking about.

again im not competing with anybody's site, im just sharing what i can give, this are all part of hardship, sacrifices, effort, and STILL have no gold to show.

thanks swindler, and to all of you TH friends out there!

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 17, 2010, 07:09:46 AM
goldbar 888 is my brother, he would like to show his pictures thank you!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 07:24:30 AM
this are also some markers i would like to show, a red human heart marker beside a buried oil drum.
and some artifacts and markers i once saw in treasure hunting code books. anyway i believe only the japanese who did this knows real and true meaning.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 07:33:04 AM
and heres the results of geological mapping or core sampling i got from the site,  to bad the services are expensive and thet charge me with PER METER. so i manage to try it out only 130 feet deep.

sample yeilds changing layers
of fine beach sand
white coral sands
yellow coral sands
violet pebbles
bluish gray clay
royal blue soft soil
wasabe green soil
a layer of gold phyrites mixed in brown soil
a red maroon layer of clay

up to now i still cant comprehend what did the japanese did to this place,, amazingly altered.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 07:34:53 AM
i guess this info could extensivley help other friends out there to compare anomallys they also found in their sites.
be safe out there!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 07:41:12 AM
deeper layers sample
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 17, 2010, 09:46:24 PM
G 88,

sorry, i dont have much idea for those markers, we will just wait for some experts from this thread to show up and anlyze those markers. oh by the way, dry season is pass aproaching we will expect some of them are on thier own digging sites working. i saw pictures of your markers those are pretty much impressive. stay safe buddy.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 17, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
goldbar 69

thanks! be carefull also
japanese buried treasure is no walk in the park, i saw big underground foundation companies  hired by wealthy financiers to locate the commodities, japanese , australian , korean and american exploration groups too, its a serious business that requires vast funding. i guess they take this seriously to fund such projects hoping to hit their paydirt of metric tons of refined gold and finished diamonds,
maybe a renegade soldiers loot or perhaps few drums and boxes of valuables from a greedy officer is more suitable for me,
or for us. its more managable manpower and financing,
japanese imperial sites give me goosebumps, those tunnel fortifications hundreds of feet down is too much. its a big boys game.

be safe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 18, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
G88,
 Sorry that i mentioned "you got the giveaway"!!! maybe other THs here thinks that its goldbars worth millions! i wanted to clarify that its only a mere grams of gold nuggets and as good as souvenir only...
***Ill try to visit you again this april to check your site,,,i was zeroed there due to lack of ground markers...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 18, 2010, 02:43:37 AM
goldbar 888, long time no hear..welcome to this forum join us during the annual TH convention here in Bambang, Nueva Vizcaya, thats your tunnel 8.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bisaya on February 18, 2010, 04:19:07 AM
Sir Fernando we also encountered that gold phyrites. They said that this things will turn to gold after 100yrs is it true? shiny tiny like a corn. we encountered this gold phyrites at 70+ ft after breaking a cieling cement. but what bother us is this smells, smells like walling-walling flower, any one knows the cause of that smells?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 18, 2010, 05:14:15 AM
Good day Gentlemen...just sharing some "mark and symbols"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on February 18, 2010, 06:41:52 PM
bisaya

if it is true that it would turn to gold after 100 years to bad we wiil be not here anymore to know, we would be satisfied walking in a pavement of gold in heaven.

now that smell may come from chemicals that the japanese engineers put if your on the right track, and reacted after 68 years, not sure really.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbar 888 on February 18, 2010, 06:45:35 PM
swindler
 no problem amigo, be safe, your always welcome!

boylara,
thank you for your invitation, im feel elated joining you nice people, will let you know thanks again!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 18, 2010, 08:40:56 PM
hello, can you give the meaning of this mark..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 18, 2010, 08:47:57 PM
two triangular rock, 1 triangle i destroyed
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 18, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
rock formation near an open tunnel
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 19, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
fontokis,

picture 103 is awesome...goodluck buddy.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 01:24:43 AM
fontokis very nice markers , kindly get another shot from different angle... so that we can view the entire markers..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 02:11:07 AM
fontokis, is that marker located on top of a mountain/hill and the arrow is pointing to another mountain??hmmm...wow..we can operate that but hopefully the item is still der???
   

based on my analysis that is probably 4 x 2 feet... and at the back of the arrow is a mountain na hugis salakot, while that arrow is pointing to another marker.. the horse is so obvious and the tail...there is there the item is located not where the arrow is pointing...heheheheheh am i wrong????send more pics of the marker wow..so many signs...expert interpret this markers...  fontokis where is that lonely tomb located???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 02:59:19 AM
pics ni fontokis
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 19, 2010, 03:41:14 AM
Boy Lara,

Thats a very nice rock carving alright....but was it intentionally made for Japs treasure marker..... or tombstone marker for an artist?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 03:44:16 AM
nope that's an old marker...they call the lonely tomb..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 03:44:47 AM
about this triangle stone..natural???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on February 19, 2010, 04:22:25 AM
I would say that Triangle stone is natural. Where is that located in the Phil's?
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 19, 2010, 04:35:04 AM
Gentlemen just another Japanese marking.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 19, 2010, 08:06:01 AM
Boy Lara,

That is a natural triangle boulder.....but if I am the Japanese soldiers that kind of natural triangle boulder would be the best place for hiding treasure bcoz it will not vanish for several decades....its a natural marker.
However, do you think it had treasure, of course NOBODY KNOWS unless you had a treasure map or live Japs pointer telling you that there are hidden treasure in there.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 08:16:38 AM
Gboy, the location is here in Cagayan, in Penablanca near BUDZ site hahahahahaha,,,,
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 08:18:48 AM
the real formation of the this rock is PYRAMID , under under is a small opening, probably an underwater entrance...are area is a former japanase base camp... but no one dared to enter coz is so deep,
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on February 19, 2010, 09:49:16 AM
The Legend,

Where's that cave and who sealed that off?

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on February 19, 2010, 03:16:23 PM
Add to TWs query, did they break that sealed entrance and what did they find ?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 19, 2010, 03:30:20 PM
i think it is sealed but i observed there is the lock at the side of the tunnel...a small rock remove it and presto, that sealed rock will open..indiana jones...hehehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on February 19, 2010, 06:24:24 PM
Boy Lara,

That Pyramid boulder is not on Budz father treas list. We don't know that.
Are you sure its in Penablanca area? We have not yet explore to wide river like that and as deep as that in Penablanca area.
Anyways, although we have a few underwater entrance treas sites, we avoided such bcoz we have no capability to dive underwater. Maybe someday if we become YTH Special Forces maybe we can  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 19, 2010, 09:55:18 PM
Fontokis,
 That lonely tomb of yours is hell of a true treasure sign..Meaning is so obvious too as some people here figure that out already. ARROW is pointing on another major sign that can be found perhaps few hundred meters away ahead, this marker there haves hidden treasure too but very small quantity, Look at very carefully The HORSE,,its tails are wiggling up(means he is relax) so he travels normally and not running and thats indicates that the treasure is not far from here, again look at the bird(hawk or eagle) EAGLE represent the highest tree on the area, a very obvious tree or rock that can be seen even at far place, again, look at that lying MAN on top of the tomb(observe his feet, its "SAKANG" allright) it indicates a measured steps of a man heading to the treasure. Again, observe the very straight line below the tomb which serves as its corniche...It represent a straight flat road or trail so let me tell you a clear meaning for this "TREASURE HIDDEN BEFORE THE BIG TREE AT THE END OF FLAT TRAIL/ROAD (curbada) AND WAS LOCATED RIGHT THRU THE BOTTOM OF THE ROAD (perhaps coulbert im not sure) which is REVERSE TO THE ARROWHEAD and CAN BE MEASURED by MANS STEPS COMFORTABLY (a man can comfortably step 1 meter each at the 150 times..... ;) ;)i supposed not to explain this much of detail but ONE special person introduced YOU to me and he has very strong belief that you are a very honest person......GOODLUCK
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 20, 2010, 07:16:44 AM
Swindler, fontokis is a frend of mine..he is from the CAR region, actually he is inviting me to his place so that we  both of us can recover the treasure if there is,but no need for that because I trust him, I told him if God's will and sure there is the loot he will document everything pics lng kunin ko hehehehehehe babaw kaligayahan ko ano... bahala na sya kung share nya tayo....swindler pm me your YM so that we can chat der.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 20, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
Swindler, i just talked with him fontokis a while back and he informed me that he will wait for us.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 20, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
Fontokis is your friend? well i dont know that,,,He was actually refered to me by one of our great brother here in tseatc...Anyway if he can wait then its much better for us..but do you think we can reach him?...He is not far from my place i know but how about the road, is it easy accessible?...i havent been in that place yet but i think its quite interesting to visit..... ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on February 21, 2010, 03:41:00 AM
We've found this marker from our other site, I would really appreciate if somebody can interpret for me.. thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 21, 2010, 05:22:39 AM
Tony,


I apologized for a late reply....that was a black concrete---sealed the entrance of a chamber....we did managed to break in that concrete blockage for about 3 months...." manual chiseling" ....painstaking indeed!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 21, 2010, 05:38:10 AM
t_hunter44,

We found the passageway going to the chambers....

Tony,

that was under water tunnel....kindly see the attachments....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 21, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
yea...he is very near your place... Just last December Ive been to his place..We always chat..according to him, the area going to lone tomb is passable..there is road going there.. He told me, he will you and you do the honor of recovering the treasure...hehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 21, 2010, 09:19:38 AM
legend, seldom to they hide their loot on swamps...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on February 21, 2010, 01:14:54 PM
Legend,
       Are you saying that the entrance sealed with what you described as black cement is located near the water and at high tide, it is submerge in water and that means you can only work during low tide and of course you are constantly pumping out water from your hole, that is a job and a half. How did you ever find out about this site, was there a map or a marker or a live pointer that pointed out this location, on water. You stated that you already broke the seal that leads to a tunnel with chambers, what is on those chambers. For the Japanese to go to that much extreme, hard to imagine the difficulty of tunneling, unless the tunnel was natural and they only have to seal it, that would be the natural deduction. Am asking all this questions for me to better understand the way the Japanese hid their loot.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 21, 2010, 04:17:11 PM
boylara,

Sir, I do agree with you...that seldom they( JIA ) put their loot at the swamp....but this case It  was only the entrance for retrieval that they hide for concealment....the loot was around 100 meters away for the  entrance.....

t_hunter44,

IMHO...this tunnel was designed by (JIA ) as their retrieval point....when they make a tunnel system...they will also make a couple or three main exit points...to be sure , when something happened inside the tunnel---they will have an escape route,  after a placement of the loot....all of the exit route will be concealed....bear in mind that this hiding place will be difficult to be noticed....a keen study and progressive learning is necessary to uncover some of their secrets.....

Pls. do see some attachments.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 21, 2010, 05:05:51 PM
Legend- in my own opinion, i think that seals tunnel is just a diversion of the real entrance, i don't believe that the recovery point is in the swamp area. Since you already estimate the actual location of the the loot, what you do, stand at the loot portion, turn 45 degree to the east site. Look for the rocks or boulder around 10 to 50 meters..I believe there is your entrance..if they place the entrance at the swamp side and 100 meters far, my gudness the recovery will take years,.... considering it will be flooded all the time...hmmmm just an  opinion..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 21, 2010, 05:06:50 PM
Boy lara, Swindler
   *Lonely tomb case*
      good day, i suggest that we work as a team on the recovery of that lonely tomb, i will not ask for anything, im just a poor boy not capable on the recovery of that, the place is a populated area so i leave it to your expertise to plan and work on it, i know its possible and I have confidence that we can do it successfully. if its  successful then we can have our fair share. i do not go often on that site coz its far from where i am about 1.5 hour ride and i still have a contract as a clerk in an office here as a job order until April 11. the tomb is still there please send an advance party for verification of the placed item on that road and if its still there we can begin to operate, the road going there is a national road, i can arrange for a house there where we can stay if your plan will push through..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 21, 2010, 07:24:21 PM
This Jar is found by the locals in the area where the Lonely thomb is.. they say the jar has a mixed of gold dust so its heavy, ive hold it  my hands but they wont sell it..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 21, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
boylara,

Sir thanks for that comment....yes  it's true ...we  did opened the door, exactly at the portion that you mentioned....but still we've used that passageway for a purpose....and it's also true....it took us a year and a half for that operation.....but i can tell you sir....it's quite rewarding!!!.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on February 21, 2010, 08:29:33 PM
boylara,

Sir thanks for that comment....yes  it's true ...we  did opened the door, exactly at the portion that you mentioned....but still we've used that passageway for a purpose....and it's also true....it took us a year and a half for that operation.....but i can tell you sir....it's quite rewarding!!!.....
A year and a half for that retrieval, that is quiet a long time but then you succeeded and the reward is great. Congratulations and it looks on the picture that the whole Barangay was there to celebrate.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 21, 2010, 08:57:59 PM
t_hunter44,

yes sir indeed---it took us that long for the operation....all of them were part of the operation...nearly 50 persons....thanks for the appreciation Sir/s!!! God bless!!!

kindly see attachments.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gpp81 on February 22, 2010, 02:24:10 AM
good day to all . . . . . . . please give me some advice regarding this signs...........there meanings and translation if there is.......... thanks in advance mga sir/s.................... good bless us always ..........and happy treasure hunting this summer day.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gpp81 on February 22, 2010, 02:25:26 AM
add.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gpp81 on February 22, 2010, 02:26:44 AM
more.................thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 22, 2010, 04:43:43 AM
the legend,

it seems that you catch a big fish right there! wow!, that was inspiring.., very impressive indeed the patience and affort of those people involved in the operation. CONGATZ MR THE LEGEND!!! YOU ARE THE TRUE LEGEND...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 22, 2010, 06:00:43 AM
goldbars69,

Kindly...those post were in good faith, in-spite nor despite of all who ridiculed and insulted us in this kind of work...just to make them swallow their own medicine!....and for us , fellow YTH --that was my small tribute to all of you, countless and faceless fellow that kindling the fire of hope to this endeavor....just push forward and not to loose hope, for as much as we know that our labour will not be in vain.....we will reap, what we sow......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 22, 2010, 09:59:10 AM
legend can you show some pics of the recovery to prove such loot exist if you recovered it... Well GMA I witness is looking for site to be featured in their program...Is that project in Palawan???hmmmm
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: D double L on February 22, 2010, 04:12:18 PM
boylara,

yes of course....certainly Sir,.....since yesterday i was posting some pictures, but it was an error....seems that " it has a larger bytes" than what it requires here....but don't worry sir ---i can send it thru your email, if you wish.....

the legend

Nota Bene:     Sir  GMA-7 already contacted me, but seems they had a difficulties on their logistic to come to the site....( kindly inquire to Ms. Beverly )....more power sir!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 22, 2010, 05:22:53 PM
Again, I wud like to post this rock formation if its related to the Jap's this is located in the area near their tunnels..this good for exploration coz its on top of a mountain
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on February 22, 2010, 06:10:26 PM
Fontokis,

Please tell WHY your photo name is soooooooooooooooooo long? And.. normally when we click on any photos here they will immediately ENLARGE but your photos asking to be DOWNLOADED??? What's with that? Is there some kind of Hidden VIRUS there???

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fontokis on February 22, 2010, 06:59:19 PM
Gud day..admin, I dont know why the name of the photo is soo long, but im sure there are no virus in it coz my anti virus in this computer im using is updated every day, maybe its just the process im doing in saving the picture coz it came from my digicam then I saved it in a folder here in the office computer..Thank you..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: twobox on February 22, 2010, 08:27:38 PM
The Legend,

Persistence pays off...congratulations on your find
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 22, 2010, 09:28:52 PM
the legend,

can you send photos from your recoveries?, just curious about it. heres my yahoo mail, mcdavinzki@yahoo.com. cant wait to see it. many thanks!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 22, 2010, 11:09:17 PM
legend, so its your group who have recovered that famous loot in mindanao..yea not palawan ...in I____,  Your lucky coz your security are the famouse ABU sayyaf,  hehehehehehe..just kidding, show the GOLDS bars and also please don't forget those artifacts, Have your recovered the famous crown of 2 golden samurais, the 4 buddhas, 12 mini drums, 4 boxes or just the easy load..hmmmm...Is the map still there??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 22, 2010, 11:11:26 PM
email me at boylara2002@yahoo.com ,,,i will post it on the forum...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 22, 2010, 11:15:41 PM
recovered by Legend groups
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: treescav on February 23, 2010, 07:19:51 AM
legend,

Congratulations... its only that words, that all works put in a reality...
Since your patience is unquestionable,  maybe i can say with our doing that we want also
a man like really understand how it supposed to be..
I have her in cavite and all i want is to have to enter into the tunnel, we dont have people
of 50 that really cooperate with each other... we only 3 and have to move in extreme scenario.
If ur interested, its just a little help we need, as little us submersible pump.

treescav
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldbars69 on February 23, 2010, 07:51:53 AM
the legend.

nice one right there..keep it up. stay safe buddy!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on February 23, 2010, 09:06:58 PM
you may find this of interest when deciphering various Japanese items....
It is a "Kanji Dictionary available for download...

link...

http://www.kanjidic.com/

just scroll down the page and it is there on the right side

regards
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: bfgates on February 23, 2010, 09:14:59 PM
wow,

the Legend and the company, you been blessed!.... am so happy here to see somebody with sharing their successful recovery. thanks for posting it here so that we may have an idea how JIA hid a loot..... but be careful though with what you post coz world wide people can see it.... the faces could be marked to.....

God bless more!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on February 24, 2010, 04:06:30 AM
Janner,

Thanks for that. Hopefully it could be helpful for someone here.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: joe on February 24, 2010, 05:44:36 AM
you may find this of interest when deciphering various Japanese items....
It is a "Kanji Dictionary available for download...

link...

http://www.kanjidic.com/

just scroll down the page and it is there on the right side

regards

Thanks Janner ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on February 24, 2010, 11:08:40 AM
Gud day to all... please help us interpret these markers.. thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 24, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
Corel just an ordinary rocks, nothing significant.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on February 24, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Corel just an ordinary rocks, nothing significant.

Thanks BoyLara, but south of picture DSC0001 with an etched 'X' mark with a curve line on top of the X mark, at approx. 29 meters, we open up a tunnel 39 meters long, at the end of the tunnel there seems to look like a curved 4 sided stone table, at half meter at the back of the curved stone table is the tunnel wall and above the tunnel wall there was a triangle marker..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghilbzberto on February 27, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
gud day sir/s


please give me your advice regarding this picture who have engrave.......

is this made by nature or i'm correct that someone put this kind of mark.... 3 same picture with different explation

the one with white circle this portion was covered with soil.

the other one that have white lines i put it to see the figure it formed.




thanks for the extra time.... or a 2cents of your comment....... god bless us all
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 27, 2010, 01:17:19 AM
KING,,
 That is kanji but broken words for " FORWARD or STRAIGHT FORWARD"(mixed words) i dont know,,,perhaps abbreviated! where is this written? map or sign on a rock?...

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 27, 2010, 01:22:57 AM
BERTO,
 That looks natural to me but there is a resemblance also of "PINE TREE" or TREE" or CEMETERY,,,,But i dont give you a real meaning here maybe im wrong caused its all mixed up and all lines are not given,,,i still say natural at the moment as no concrete evidence that its a handmade...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on February 27, 2010, 04:24:39 AM
swindler ..bertos rock is natural, hehehehehehe ...tulungan mo ko dun sa future project site ko...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghilbzberto on February 27, 2010, 07:01:17 AM
sir swindler,



thanks for the reply....... this area was occupied during japanese time...... there is also a lot of big trees in the location of the rock and also pine tree.....and also a big tree that was already dead it is on the decomposation stage... and we are try to get some more evidence..... cause the area or maybe other marker was covered by soil and sand when the pinatubo explode.... maybe sir if you will look on the picture that dont have white mark..... i think the nature cant made this kind of engrave...... cause if you notice the engrave......there something different on it......... just only my observation sir....by the way thanks again sir for the time....


sir there's another thing......... just my curiosity..... is this possible for a tree marker shape like arrow to me where i found the stone that have engrave a few meters away...... thanks in advance




sir boylara,


thanks for your advice...............




Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on February 27, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Those trees do not look like they are 60 yrs old do they????

Regards
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on February 27, 2010, 10:00:58 PM
Berto,
 Janner is right, they are not that old trees yet and dont let your imagination work as far as that cause that is too expensive and useless!!...If i were you, take more wider and clearer photo of that lines and lets see....

BoyLara,
 Even you will not say it, ill do what i can do for you my bro.... ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghilbzberto on February 27, 2010, 11:22:04 PM
sir janner,


thanks a lot for your advice.......taken



and also sir swindler.........thank you so much.............. god bless us always
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on March 05, 2010, 02:26:29 AM
KING,,
 That is kanji but broken words for " FORWARD or STRAIGHT FORWARD"(mixed words) i dont know,,,perhaps abbreviated! where is this written? map or sign on a rock?...



swindler...

             that sign marks on a rocks, i have no idea about the meaning of that sign, dont mix the words, it was from a different stone. salamat...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 05, 2010, 11:06:50 PM
King,
 Then dont mix up your posting, you should seperate them as it will create confusion.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 08, 2010, 01:02:36 AM
What part of map this was written janner???? Those you mentioned are either tophographic levels or distances....and that depends on what side....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on March 08, 2010, 01:46:19 AM
they were written under the Japanese writing, like a afterthought, or a added quotation. they are the only english writing on the map prior to decoding...which seems strange unless its a common sign within the military slang ?????   but I'm guessing...

the map is 1942-4 so all references to places are that era as well, just to make it more difficult....
to whit, japanese spelling, 1942-5 time scale, slang (?), villages gone, or name changed, Even the land has changed. very difficult sometimes until you find the key word.....??

and of course Japanese did not measure in meters or feet and inches, but their own system...
"Game On"..

Regards
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 08, 2010, 04:44:38 AM
They dont use metric or english if the place is mountainous or cliffy, there are system they used which they normally called "clicks" and "cracks" click means a full step and cracks are jump downs...but H or L or M or R refers to level but again it depends on how genious that keeper is...But always they used compass whenever they kept something....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on March 08, 2010, 07:11:25 AM
I am unsure of "Clicks and Cracks"????

However....

1 Ri=36 cho=2.160ken= 2.44 miles or 3.92 kms
1 Ken=6 shaku=60 Sun= 5.96 feet or .303 meters.

and thats 1945 era measurements


Regards
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on March 21, 2010, 03:45:50 AM
hello to THs..

try to view my photos....

(http://i42.tinypic.com/180qk6.jpg)

(http://i44.tinypic.com/30c13lj.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/50nq5e.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/16hlwcg.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/xlz0k5.jpg)

if do you have an idea pls. email me, and i will show you all my photos.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: twobox on March 21, 2010, 11:43:43 AM
Nice pics King, reminds me of our property in vizcaya...lots of big rocks lots of caves...any way somebody else more experienced will interpret those mark for you...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 21, 2010, 10:46:02 PM
Natural Rock Formations,,,,,Yeah, visit east nueva vizcaya and you will found millions of this..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on March 22, 2010, 03:45:03 AM
yes! that is a natural rock, but what i mean is the mark and sign... what do you think???
just sharing my point of view's.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 22, 2010, 07:00:18 AM
I still think natural,,, :) not unless there is anymore nearby or area connected to it..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on March 22, 2010, 07:59:49 PM
yes....  more marker's nearby. but i don't have any idea...
thanks gener....

king.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on March 22, 2010, 11:21:33 PM
KING,
 Yes i knew there are more,,,That place is too familiar to me i think and even my relatives houses are just hundred yards away from some of this markers...Its my birthplace you know that???... ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: KING on March 26, 2010, 04:31:03 PM
sorry.. baka familiar lang, but actually this site owned by my grandfa, and currently this site is on operation.. but never mine'd, this are my collection, i only share.. this photo's was captured at the top of the mountain  davao province in mindanao.. tnx..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on April 21, 2010, 12:49:52 AM
CIRCLE-means "SPOT"
ARROWS-means Head straight 3 mts then divert to left(opposite of smaller arrow) But what is the position of this markers when found??? if standing then go down,,,,if flat to ground then horizontal....You should be careful in moving a marker take photo first or sketch and document all their actual position and compositions....this causes big trouble if not listed well...

Hello Sir Gener,
I'm back again, with more consultations...i'm sure you still remember my previous consultations regarding the marking we found as illustrated in the attached sketch.  We followed the arrows, horizontally first, then dug down..However, further analysis revealed that the markers were on the rock surface with 80 degrees inclination from the ground, so also did vertical dig, then followed the opposite of the smaller arrow, but found nothing..Besides, it was a natural dig. The depth i understand, is indicated by the arrows, however, why is it that the pile of circles have exact measurements? one circle has a thickness of 5 inches, two circles at 4 inches thick, and the rest are 3 inches, including the bowl-shape at the bottom of the piles. Does the thickness indicate depth? We operated on a river bed, and to our amazement, there were 6 layers or rocks on the river which corresponds to the 6 piles of circles. We were hoping to reach the 7th layer where we thought the treasure would be found but there was none..

Sir Gener, pls be patient on me.. :-[

many thanks,
goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 21, 2010, 04:32:40 AM
you know my email??? can you forward there please???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on April 21, 2010, 05:05:40 AM
Gener,

I found this three holes in a boulder elevated from the river bank. Beside this is a very very big Balite tree. I secretly took that picture using my small cp hidden in my knapsack's strap. I also took picture of the Balite tree but after checking it upon arriving home, it did not register. Maybe I erred in taking the shot. There are three (3) holes but I did not tell my companions because it will surely arouse their curiosity. The third hole is partially covered with dirt. Also note that that site is at the forest at top of the Sierra Madre range, vehicles cannot come to that place due to the steep slope of the terrain. About a kilometer away is MY CAVE.

DB
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 21, 2010, 05:45:35 AM
Dindo,
download the first photo i posted in other topic,,,this are the ones im talking about and purpose of this holes....you are capable of surveying so there will be no hazzle on that + i will help you off course...thanks..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on April 21, 2010, 06:10:17 AM
I forgot to tell that they also found the "X" mark about 25 - 30 meters away in a boulder at the middle of the river, they dug and moved that boulder and found nothing. That was as of summer last year. GPS will not function in that site due to heavy vegetation. even a compass has an anomaly as I suspect that place as magnetic hill but Dumagats call that place "balay engkanto" (Home of the unseen entities/spirits). They are afraid and won't accompany us non-dumagats in that place, they do nut hunt there too, that is why wild boars and deers are still many in that place. You just have to have your  gauge 12 shotgun if those nice people around allows you to carry one after passing their sentry below the mountain.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 21, 2010, 06:30:16 AM
They simply damaged the  X bearing,,,If you have chance,,try to explore around...something is here im sure....this holes shows it all...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: goldfish on April 21, 2010, 11:56:47 PM
you know my email??? can you forward there please???
Sir Gener,
I am sorry but i don't know your email address...please send me your email so i could forward my messages to you...

Salamat launay,
goldfish
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 23, 2010, 11:46:45 AM
Boylara/Dindo Bayaua,
A friend named "J..K A...TA" visited my house the other day and looking for me(he talked to my mom). He is one of us i know but cant remember when?..he mentioned boylara
 ;D...and he promised 2 fat goats!(how he knows its my favorite?).. ;D
I think T44 and me will face-off with this 2 fat goats!! kilawen,,,kaldereta,,,,GSM....tsk!-tsk!...alive!!! :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: edrake on April 25, 2010, 03:19:29 PM
this sign are pasitive?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: edrake on April 25, 2010, 03:29:44 PM
this is my email add/ edrake28@yahoo.com
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 25, 2010, 08:25:24 PM
hi im here again.. anyone can give me a explanation  of  the direcion of the plows that we recover inside the foundation gear of the old sugare cane mill they used two carabao to make the dadapilan work ......there is history that the japannese  stay here in or place during the WWII


???

can anyone decode the direction

now i don't have the real pic of the foundation cause we already break it ... but this is the the position of plows

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image039.jpg)

these are the other metal that we recover at the side of the foundation

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image022-1.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 25, 2010, 09:57:21 PM
Check if that plow is pointing north direction
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 26, 2010, 12:53:35 AM
to mr northstar..

THE 2 PLOW IS POINTING TO NORTH AND THE SINGLE PLOW IS POINTING TO SOUTH AND THE 3 PLOW IS POINTING TO WEST

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/Image039-2.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 26, 2010, 01:11:36 AM
jcj,
I dont know if you agree with me,,i will not convince you to do treasure hunting on these sugarcane area,,better find another place!. bear in mind that sugarcane needs a lot of plowing and it happens many times that those plow horns breaks and cannot be repaired as they are cast-iron, so they end up collected and thrown away near the sugarcane mill as to show to the people that his plow was broken. that happened in many occasions(maybe years) until pile of horns were scattered around that area...japanese dont use much of sugarcane places as they knew that people does a lot of work digging here considering that its a sugar factory...they may just use this place as a marker but treasure is actually far. they hide treasures in not expected places...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 01:18:50 AM
Check again if you can find another clue at 60 degrees northwest  7 to 15 meter distance. Check if there is a tree or boulder
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 26, 2010, 01:26:07 AM
5 TO 7 METERS AWAY TO NORTH THERE IS A BAMBOO BUT NOW IT IS DEAD BECUASE OF TYPOON  "GADING"
 I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IS...MAYBE PAST 10 YEARS????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 02:45:48 AM
Check the angle of the plow and the bamboo if align 60 degrees northwest
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 26, 2010, 04:34:31 AM
YOUR RIGHT SIR THE 2 PLOW 60 DEGREES NORTH WEST POINTING TO THE BAMBOO...AND THE SINGLE PLOW IS POINTING TO THE MANGO TREE BY 60 DEGREES SOUTH EAST BUT IT DIED 22YRS  AGO CAUSE BY TYPHOON......

TO MR GENER THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY.

IF YOU WERE A MASONRY "LABORER" TO CREATE A STRONG FOUNDATION WHY YOU WILL PUT ALL THOSE PLOW INTO DIFFERENT DIRECTION POINTING DOWN, SLANTING, FLAT, WHY THEY ARANGE IT INTO PERFECTLY POINTING TO SOMETHING WE CAN'T FIND ...


..I THINK THAT THE JAPANESE WILL HIDE IT INTO THE PLACES THAT NO ONE CAN EXPECT.. THAT THEY  BURIED A TREASURE... AND THIS SUGARCANE MILL WILL NOT DESTROYED EVEN AFTER THE WAR...AND IT IS EASY FOR THEM TO LOCATE ALL THE THEY BURIED... FOR ME THESE IS THE BEST LANDMARK... WHEN THEY COME BACK TO RECOVER .. I'M STILL HOPING .....THAT THEY BURIED  1 OF THE TREASURE HERE IN OUR PLACE SO I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND I WILL ACCEPT ALL YOUR COMMENTS


THANKS FOR REPLY ........ ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 26, 2010, 04:41:29 AM
without going into the wheres and why, but they may be just to reinforce the cement(?) with no particular reason of pointing anywhere.

Maybe the "Mason" was being decorative at the time, maybe a younger person put them like that...maybe..maybe..maybe...     

who knows the answer ??

lots to think about...... prior to even thinking of digging.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 26, 2010, 06:12:05 AM
that canister needs to be refilled!! >:(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 26, 2010, 09:39:37 AM
I'd say, Let Baygons be Baygons. What we think or say does not really matter here and when you have given your advise and your honest oipinion of his site,  that is it. If a person believes and is convinced that there is something there and with some urging from NS which is all Nonsense, let them, its their time and money. jcjibz, Good Luck on your dig in Pangasinan.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on April 26, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
I'd say, Let Baygons be Baygons. What we think or say does not really matter here and when you have given your advise and your honest oipinion of his site,  that is it. If a person believes and is convinced that there is something there and with some urging from NS which is all Nonsense, let them, its their time and money. jcjibz, Good Luck on your dig in Pangasinan.

I agree!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: edrake on April 26, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
god day to all..

sa tabi ng dagat yan 2 hour lng kami ng sisinsil pag low tide
di p namin na abot ang sea level di n kaya ng panghigup namin.. maraming salamat

 email: edrake28@yahoo.com
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on April 26, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
god day to all..

sa tabi ng dagat yan 2 hour lng kami ng sisinsil pag low tide
di p namin na abot ang sea level di n kaya ng panghigup namin.. maraming salamat

 email: edrake28@yahoo.com

EDrake,

You're breaking one of the few and simple rules here and that is that ALL post should be in ENGLISH.

Thanks!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 05:28:47 PM
Jcjbz

I have better solution in your puzzle. The mango tree is 60 degrees angle southeast from the foundation. Now, you reverse the situation. Stand on the mango tree and check the angle of the mango tree and the foundation if exactly 60 degrees angle NW. Give me the distance of the mango tree and the foundation
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 26, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
mr northstar


this is the location of the foundation and trees in my place....


(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t78/jcibz/DIAGRAM2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on April 26, 2010, 08:15:40 PM
Gener he is your townmate and he know's your parents, he have a site in your area and he wants our help..yea he will give 2 kambing for papaitan and kilawen,..we always chat on the net or cp....when will you arrive
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 26, 2010, 08:31:11 PM
Edrake,
       If you have not seen the Treasure  markings sgns, symbols and codes, when you open TSEATC, go to Treasure in the Philippines, scroll down to THAPI , take it for what it is worth. Your Flower sign according to THAPI signifies a BIG BOMB or some sort of a BOOBY TRAP, be safe and proceed with caution.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 08:52:53 PM
Jcjbz

Please get the exact angle from the mango tree going straight to the foundation and to the bamboo. Make sure that it is 60 degrees angle. If yes then I'll show you how to do it
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
Jcjbz

As I tried to analyzed the angle. It 's look like 30 degrees angle northwest. Please check carefully because I am having 2 possible answers
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 09:44:22 PM
Jcjbz

Last question. this very important. Please specify the distances between the bamboo and kamchilles and from the kamachilles to other bamboo from west to east direction
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 26, 2010, 11:10:52 PM
northstar

if i start to count the angle west to north i got 60 degrees ..but if i start to count in north to west it is 30 degrees  " medyo nahihirapan  akong kunin yung angle sa mgkatabing plow pero ung isa okie lng saktong 30degrees nortwest"
...and..the single plow,,,, if i start to count the angle east to south i got 60 degrees when i count south to east i got 30 degrees  

Quote
Please specify the distances between the bamboo and kamchilles and from the kamachilles to other bamboo from west to east direction
the bamboo on northwest to the  kamachille on north there distance 6 to 7m the other bamboo  on northeast 7 to 8m
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 26, 2010, 11:19:34 PM
Jcjibz

I got it. I will locate the first treasure site for you. just wait
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 01:38:58 AM
Jcjibz

Just follow my simple intructions. First, you need a rope. Put the rope on the middle of the mango tree trunk and move toward west direction with the rope. Then, put again another rope on the middle of the kamachilles tree trunk and move straight to the south direction. The intersection of the two ropes is your exact treasure site ( 90 degrees northeast ). Dig there up to 5 ft. Look for underground signs or markers. Check the soil meticulously for any possible signs. Do not throw or break any signs. Good luck(http://)

Sorry I can't upload the sketches, somebody has blocked my post for images. I don't know who did it but I smell something fishy in this forum.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jcjibz on April 27, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
mr northstar
if you can't upload it here
you can attach it  send it to my email  jibz_51325@yahoo.com.ph





BIG thanks again i will wait for your images..........
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on April 27, 2010, 06:53:30 AM
boylara,
 This Mr. A knows my parents?? maybe yes if hes just in my town as they all know each other, sorry but im not in the country since 1994 though i do visit philippines once in 2-3-4 years and maximum of 15 days only....i forgot the town and  most of its people bro...cant wait for that kilawen and burning smell of a goat!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 01:49:16 PM
trial post
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 27, 2010, 01:51:22 PM
Jcjibz


It's working now. Just follow the sketches above.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: edrake on April 27, 2010, 10:48:27 PM
t_hunter44

thanks for your advice............

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on April 27, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
No problem, that is what we are here for, to help one another.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on April 29, 2010, 08:39:52 PM
To NS and anyone for comment

While on my way to my site before, I discovered on nearby shoreline (Katihan) a rectangular flat shape coral rock with Ammo (downward) placed in its circle sign in its center, facing East 1.5x1m and at South part there is a half moon coral rock formation more or less 1x1 and while on and a two very large mangrove trees on its SE direction, approximately 30m apart from each all other. At the North also present a deep portion of end shoreline 5m deep at 45d from half moon coral. The area is facing China sea. I Blast with dynamites (BongBong) the rectangular flat shape coral rock up to its sea water level but no YT

Is the above any relevant to TH?

Thank you!   :-\
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
PTB

I have a strong feelings that those are YT land markers. If you can only plot all the details, I can give you an answer for that.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 29, 2010, 09:37:01 PM
To NS and anyone for comment

While on my way to my site before, I discovered on nearby shoreline (Katihan) a rectangular flat shape coral rock with Ammo (downward) placed in its circle sign in its center, facing East 1.5x1m and at South part there is a half moon coral rock formation more or less 1x1 and while on and a two very large mangrove trees on its SE direction, approximately 30m apart from each all other. At the North also present a deep portion of end shoreline 5m deep at 45d from half moon coral. The area is facing China sea. I Blast with dynamites (BongBong) the rectangular flat shape coral rock up to its sea water level but no YT

Is the above any relevant to TH?

Thank you!   :-\

Any evidence that "may" have been there is now gone, this due to "Blasting|, also you are "advertising" where you are with these big bangs....

much better you take pictures and present them here for the more experienced members to give their opinions and or guidance.
Lots of clever people here Mr PB, enjoy their wealth of experience and advice...







Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 29, 2010, 09:54:57 PM
PTB

No need of pictures. Just make the exact plotting of the area. Measure the distance between each markers and the point of reference. I'll show you how to locate YT.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 29, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
Mr NS, advice is free, so is experience given from various members.

But what "WE dont" do is tell you to "ignore members advice" when given.

however Mr PT your decision on what or who to follow......?

be lucky
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 30, 2010, 03:11:19 AM
Jcjibz

How's your project site?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on April 30, 2010, 04:32:13 AM
NS,

Why you're telling him no need to take any photos before or during the operation? If I must say so myself, that doesn't sound like good advice to me. Will it HURT his project for him to document all the items there? I don't think so.

Just my two cents worth...
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on April 30, 2010, 04:50:10 AM
Don' worry Sirs, I will apply all your ideas. The best one will hear from me soon if I'm lucky. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 30, 2010, 04:56:52 AM
Photos of that sunken PT boat would be interesting to say the least, if you are able to do so.?
It would be quite a show to see that....

any way see how it goes and if you can.............

photos will also allow you to see what was there, and record it,
then you can look back at the times that you "found" it to... ;)


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on April 30, 2010, 05:22:13 AM
Janner

Sir:

I'd like to secure its documentation underwater to present all the details for info and comment before I present it here.

Hoping the weather will cooperate during documentation.

It's all for us to see.

T.Y.   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on April 30, 2010, 09:22:18 AM
Photos of that sunken PT boat would be interesting to say the least, if you are able to do so.?
It would be quite a show to see that....

any way see how it goes and if you can.............

photos will also allow you to see what was there, and record it,
then you can look back at the times that you "found" it to... ;)

Sunken PT Boat? Where and who has those? Did I miss something? I would also like to see those.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: NORTHSTAR on April 30, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Admin

No need of pictures since PTB blasted some of the land markers. What's the use of picture now? I ask him instead to plot the land markers and the point of reference. That's it. Picture is only good if all markers are still intact.

regards
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on April 30, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
NS, Admin

Sirs

The blasted markers at kilometer distance prior to sunken PT Boat that blocked the underwater tunnel river entrance. They are two sites in one location.

Hope I can plot it and document it at same time before rainy season  for all of us here.

A one man effort sir.

T.Y.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 30, 2010, 09:17:02 PM
well done PTB do what you can, and be safe and lucky
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on April 30, 2010, 11:18:21 PM
Some info for you Mr PTB.....

Motor Torpedo Boat Squadron Three was a United States Navy squadron based at Cavite, Philippines, from September 1941 to mid-April 1942. It was commanded by then-Lieutenant John D. Bulkeley and made up of six motor torpedo boats: PT 31, PT 32, PT 33, PT 34, PT 35, and PT 41, with PT 41 as the squadron flagship.

After the outbreak of hostilities between the United States and Japan on December 8, 1941, the squadron moved from Cavite to Sisiman Cove on the Bataan Peninsula, where it helped in the defence of Bataan and Corregidor during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines. PT 31 and PT 33 were sunk during the battle.

On March 11, 1942, the remaining boats of the squadron transported General Douglas MacArthur and several high-ranking officers from Corregidor to Mindanao, an act which earned every member of the squadron the Silver Star. PT 32 was abandoned during this mission, reducing the squadron to three boats: PT 41, PT 34, and PT 35.

These three boats were based at Mindanao until mid-April 1942, where two of them (PT 41 and PT 34) attacked the Japanese cruiser Kuma, scoring at least one hit. This was to be the squadron's last action: PT 34 was destroyed by Japanese aircraft, PT 35 had to be scuttled to avoid capture, and PT 41 was commandeered by the U.S. Army to defend Lake Lanao. She was eventually scuttled as well

  * PT 31: commanded by LTJG E. G. DeLong. Grounded and scuttled at Subic Bay, Luzon, 20 January 1942.
  * PT 32: commanded by LTJG V. E. Schumacher. Destroyed by USS Permit (SS-178) to prevent capture at  Tagauayan Island, Visayas Region, 13 March 1942.
  * PT 33: commanded by LTJG H. J. Brantingham. Grounded and scuttled at Subic Bay, 15 December 1941.
  * PT 34: commanded by LT R. B. Kelley. Destroyed by air attack at Kawit Island, Mindanao, 9 April 1942.
  * PT 35: commanded by ENS A. B. Akers. Burned to prevent capture at Cebu, Visayas Region, 12 April 1942.
  * PT 41: commanded by LT J. D. Bulkeley. Squadron flagship. Burned to prevent capture near Lake Lanao, Mindanao, 15 April 1942.

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8408/16pt190.jpg)

one of the PT Boats in the Philippines WWII
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on May 01, 2010, 05:14:14 AM
janner

Thanks for the info sir but my PT Boat as I've seen before maybe a japs one, but same size on your post.

Need To check in again coz half of its body was covered by the mud river.

Can you post info for japs PT Boat sir for my ref.

T.Y.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gener on May 01, 2010, 05:36:11 AM
What i know,,only americans owned PTs and they were really limitted. maybe a japanese cruiser? but that too haves enormous size, but you said its river? cruisers cannot enter rivers...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on May 01, 2010, 07:18:54 AM
the japanese had PT Boats, however they were rarely seen as they were a copy of everyone elses PT Boat, they were slower and poorly built. Plus not enough gasoline to run them. (100 gallon per hour).

Japans PT boats, 49 were destroyed and very few others were seen....

so, maybe yours is a US one..?
easy to check once you have pictures, as i have a line up of the PT Boats used during the wwii.

Clues, look for a number like 34, 35 or??...check the cockpit and its design, (pics)
check the guns (if any left) US used 50cal and 20mm, japanese used 6.7 mm(.25cal)
US boat 3 shafts and propellers, japanese 2.
anything to help recognize the owner........ ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on May 01, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
well taken sir!

If its japs and no value may be it can be scrap for budget ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on May 01, 2010, 07:39:55 AM
Perhaps it was a Japanese Motor Torpedo boat?
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on May 01, 2010, 10:24:13 PM
2 more photos which may help you with your project....

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7795/japsuicideboat.jpg)
japanese "suicide boat" patrolled the Philippines, but most were destroyed by our own PT boats or ran aground and left

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9658/jappt15mtb.jpg)
Japanese patrol boat, only capable of 35 knots and 23mm guns mounted.
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5763/jappt15mtb2.jpg)
Model of Japanese PT Boat, showing better detail
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Pt Boat/CaveinTunnel on May 02, 2010, 04:32:42 AM
Thanks for the new post sirs!

It's a lot help for my reference.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: julzseizure on June 24, 2010, 07:02:27 AM
guys,

Could you tell me what is the meaning of this marker? tnx.. God bless us..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: alexc on August 25, 2010, 03:41:01 AM
Gentlemen..gud day.

I am new to this forum. I know most of you are already experienced and successful YTH.  I just want to ask your comment on whether the site that my friend and I have discovered has possibility of hidden treasure deposit or none. We found an alleged water well on a hill obviously using probably layers of round concrete culverts embedded to earth.  Top portion of the upper culvert, protruding from ground about 3 inches, is mounted with a rectangular concrete slab with hole of the culvert remained open, whose edges of slab is perpectly oriented or aligned to east-west and north-south directions.  Subject slab has  a more or less 1-inch engraved line marking aligned to east-west direction and located at the eastern portion of slab. We tried to break the slab with a big hammer but the slab is so heavy and we're unable to break it.  The culvert is now filled with soil.  Just wondering why a water well on top of the hill. According to old people in the area, Japanese soldiers were encamped about 4 km from the alleged treasure site. The well is unknown to the residents. Several places nearby have already been visited by Japanese nationals. In fact, a treasure was allegedly recovered 2 years ago by a group with several Japanese from the top of a hill nearby whose obvious sign are yellow bamboos, which can be clearly observed from our possible treasure site. I supposed that the well is a treasure site because my friend who is living in the area told me that one day a motorist, maybe a TH with map or with  Japanese friend/s, happened to ask him if he ever saw a concrete culvert well in their barangay.
 
Your comment pls . . . on whether the site is a possible Japanese treasure site.

Illustration of Well is as follows
 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mar on September 04, 2010, 01:46:51 AM
Look under the OLD NEWS ARTICLES listed there on the PHILIPPINES page..

NEW! - If you are in need of the THAPI TREASURE HUNTING MARKINGS, SIGNS, CODES &
SYMBOLS then you can download them all in PDF format from the five complete set of files below;

Pages 1-10 / Pages 11-20 / Pages 21-30 / Pages 31-40 / Pages 41-49

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 04, 2010, 03:04:39 AM
Mar, what is it that your exactly saying in your post, besides the quote..??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 04, 2010, 11:44:48 PM
 i was waiting that  somebody gonna say it's ONLY ODD SHAPE ROCK????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 05, 2010, 02:52:08 AM
where is the markings that they are saying on fontokis pics?maybe its a treasure site or ODD SHAPE ROCK?????? ???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 05, 2010, 02:56:01 AM
probably is.........   ???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 05, 2010, 10:32:15 PM
here are some site's which someone called it ...  ODD SHAPE ROCK..it was taken in a sierra madre waterfalls
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 06, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
just to share some picture
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boboi on September 06, 2010, 04:14:52 AM
what is that pic above like a golden name cloth use by security guards?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 06, 2010, 05:26:04 AM
Its just a little bit to "Shiny", know what i mean...??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 06, 2010, 09:17:06 AM
i took this picture way back feb 2006 from a group of people from isabela they told me it was a 24k gold 75 kilos i try to carry it but i cannot its heavy, but when i told them to to assay it they refused to let methey just give a piece 10 grams of this bar but when we assay it it was 24k gold.....some hint......these are the people saying that they have many site and they just need a fund to haul it and there is plenty of it if you can give them a fund...you know what i mean and they are the one only knows about the YAM treasure on sierra madre .....the only site and signs which is true and legitimate are coming from them and the other are not...it was only odd shape rock :)


sir janner


     maybe from the flash of camera thats why it was shinny
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 06, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
what was the size of the bar..... ? in inches pls
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 06, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
i took this picture way back feb 2006 from a group of people from isabela they told me it was a 24k gold 75 kilos i try to carry it but i cannot its heavy, but when i told them to to assay it they refused to let methey just give a piece 10 grams of this bar but when we assay it it was 24k gold.....some hint......these are the people saying that they have many site and they just need a fund to haul it and there is plenty of it if you can give them a fund...you know what i mean and they are the one only knows about the YAM treasure on sierra madre .....the only site and signs which is true and legitimate are coming from them and the other are not...it was only odd shape rock :)


sir janner


     maybe from the flash of camera thats why it was shinny
Mickey,
      Something is fishy here. If these people from Isabela has lots and lots of AU as claimed from the Sierra Madre and have sole knowledge of the locations to get this said AU, why can they not just sell a bar or a few grams at a time here and there, in Chinatown, Meycauayan or most Jewelry store will buy gold and that solves the problem of the hauling financial issue. I have read the same issues here and on other forums and it is similar or the same scenario. Just some points to ponder. ;D ; :D ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 06, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
what was the size of the bar..... ? in inches pls

Get it in Centimeters please.. but you would need to also have the actual weight for that formula to be of any use.

Anyway, sorry to say Mickey, but that group has the tactics of a classic CHEATER group! Don't trust anything they say to you.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 06, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Mickey, I'm just curious, did the transaction happened here in Isabela? or had it happened in other parts of Luzon? and they claim that they are from Isabela? You see, I know 3 places in Isabela wherein groups of men had transacted fake gold bars. They even had a deal with one coastal Mayor but it was good that such transaction was easily checked in time. When the order was given to closely monitor those persons, they just vanished from the place and never saw him and her again. Those were the people who were giving our place a bad name.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 06, 2010, 10:22:42 PM
Hmmm, sounds like the one who wants to flood the market with Au but cannot do anything to haul his find. How the hell they got 1 pc anyway, just show off. Just asking.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boboi on September 07, 2010, 01:57:51 AM
as i saw the 6.2kls grams of burmese gold bar posted by tony wells the assay is 89.9 because during those time the assay was only 3 digits. so it goes like 89.9. then how come this pic above the assay is 99.9 does it means that burma has already an advance assay machine during those time so that it goes 99.9%? pls enlighten me...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: lagalag lvm on September 07, 2010, 05:58:01 PM
who ever claims to have gold and doesnt have money to move it.. here and there are  a 100% syndicate group for they should be richer than the buyers themselves ...most claim many metric tons but cant afford to move them.., its common sense...for a gram you can rent a decent jeep ...for a kilo you buy a brand new van or even rent a helicopter or a boat so buyers beware lots of them in the hills!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 07, 2010, 08:13:20 PM
who ever claims to have gold and doesnt have money to move it.. here and there are  a 100% syndicate group for they should be richer than the buyers themselves ...most claim many metric tons but cant afford to move them.., its common sense...for a gram you can rent a decent jeep ...for a kilo you buy a brand new van or even rent a helicopter or a boat so buyers beware lots of them in the hills!!
Lagalag, you got that one right and that is what I have been saying all along. I hope the others reading this will put it on their heads, make logical deductions in their head before diving in so as not to get scammed. The TH world of ours especially in the Philippines has active syndicates from one end of the island to the other, let not the glitter of gold blind your reasoning.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: vourvon on September 07, 2010, 08:41:21 PM
        How about if the founder of treasure is native (katutubo) and illiterate, don't know how to sell the treasure or don't know that is a treasure like the experience of 3 man living in the mountain, they know the YT and they try to hunting the treasure and they found a diamond shape hole in the big stone fill with many small stone, in the middle of hole they found many broken small glass size corn seed. They do know that is diamond ( uncut ) so they left beside in big stone 5 years ago. My group adviced one of them to check again if the diamond still there. During checking the area is very clean and found nothing even one peace ( very lucky ).

vourvon
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 07, 2010, 08:46:49 PM
I agree with you 2 guys, all this talk about 20,000 tons of gold, or even 1 ton is a load of Krap. (for want of a better word)

every one who has amounts like that has been ambushed or held up or lost it (conveniently) so are unable to show even 1 gram...
(of course this is my opinion, and you can contest it if you so want)

firstly how do they know whats inside a tunnel if they have never been inside,,, ?? or even a shaft.. ??
they give a list of Buddhas, gold, diamonds and lots more, yet have never been inside,,  come on FFS pull the other one.

They give lists of sites, 20 here, 100 there, and so much more, yet have nothing to show for it..

it is my firm belief that not one large deposit of gold has been found, maybe lucky enough to find a single small bar (?)
but 1 ton...no way!

but, one day someone may be lucky and fall into a hole with a few tons of gold and diamonds and then they can share with the guys here,,  ::)

until then, continue your hobby as the lure of the find is so exciting...........  ;)







Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 07, 2010, 11:34:47 PM
1 to 2 tons MAYBE possible but hundreds or even thousand of tons ??? ??? and in hundred of sites with same volume  ::)::) then japs must hauled the entire gold output on the planet on that time :o :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 08, 2010, 01:59:55 AM

History will tell that Rogelio Roxas recovered and found a golden Budha and tunnel full of gold bars....thats why he was awarded multi-billion dollar damages...I don't think it was just 1 or 2 tons.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 08, 2010, 02:08:32 AM
1 gold Buddha was about 1000 kilos, the "Small" gold bars of about 17 i think, not a tunnel full..
and that was from his son.
the damages awarded still havnt been paid as yet by the Marcos's...

and the tunnel is.... well you may know where it is..  ??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 08, 2010, 05:25:20 AM
Come to think of it... a recovery in Isabela (or some other place) and a negotiation in Nowhereland.. whew..hard to imagine that there are no people in the neigboring town to deal with..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 08, 2010, 07:20:30 AM
1 gold Buddha was about 1000 kilos, the "Small" gold bars of about 17 i think, not a tunnel full..
and that was from his son.
the damages awarded still havnt been paid as yet by the Marcos's...
and the tunnel is.... well you may know where it is..  ??

...50 feet from the Budha is a tunnel( 5 feet high, 6 feet wide and 30 feet long) full of boxes (aprox the size of case of beer)...when Roxas  opened the box it contain 24 pcs (1"x2"x 1 1/2 " gold bar)...below is the complete detail...


"On January 24, 1971, the group broke through the enclosure. Inside, Roxas discovered a gold-colored buddha statue, which he estimated to be about three feet in height. The statue was extremely heavy; it required ten men to transport it to the surface using a chain block hoist, ropes, and rolling logs. Although he never weighed the statue, Roxas estimated its weight to be 1,000 kilograms, or one metric ton. Roxas directed his laborers to transport the statue to his home and place it in a closet. Roxas also found a large pile of boxes underneath the concrete enclosure, approximately fifty feet from where the buddha statue had been discovered. He returned the next day and opened one small box, which contained twenty-four one-inch by two-and-one-half-inch bars of gold. Roxas estimated that the boxes were, on average, approximately the size of a case of beer and that they were stacked five or six feet high, over an area six feet wide and thirty feet long. Roxas did not open any of the other boxes. Several weeks later, Roxas returned to blast the tunnel closed, planning to sell the buddha statue in order to obtain funds for an operation to remove the remaining treasure. Before blasting the tunnel closed, Roxas removed the twenty-four bars of gold, as well as some samurai swords, bayonets, and other artifacts."
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 08, 2010, 07:32:20 AM
theres more to it than that, like large wooden square posts blocking a tunnel inside containing boxes, a second exit not declared by the finders, and the concrete stairs going somewhere..(?) this was according to his son, who i met about 5 yrs ago...
but stories get blemished over the yrs....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 08, 2010, 07:32:57 AM
Additional info re Roxas tunnel....why soldier continue to dig for about one year if there no more treasure left beside golden budha and few gold bars?...unless Roxas blasted treasure tunnel is being operated by the soldiers.

" 4. Military excavations

Roxas was released from prison on November 19, 1974. When he arrived home the next day, he noticed soldiers standing outside tents near the Baguio General Hospital. Sometime in December 1974, some soldiers visited Roxas in his shop and told him that they were members of the Task Force Restoration, which was conducting excavations behind the hospital. They listed their address in Roxas's logbook (which was never produced at trial) as Malacanang Palace. The soldiers asked him to come with them to help with the excavation; he refused. Roxas passed by the site in 1976 and saw that the excavations were still ongoing. In October 1976, Roxas and his family moved to Visayan City, where they stayed for the next ten years without further incident relating to the Yamashita treasure.

Juan Quijon (Juan) and his son, Romulo Quijon (Romulo), corroborated Roxas's testimony regarding the excavations. Juan had worked as a nursing attendant at Baguio General Hospital from 1945 to 1988. He noticed a number of soldiers involved in excavation behind the hospital between 1974 and 1975. Over a one-week period, Juan observed men carrying large wooden boxes out of a tunnel and placing them in trucks. Each box was carried by at least four -- and sometimes six -- men. The soldiers' uniforms bore the initials "PSC," and the trucks had the letters "PMA" painted on them. Juan also observed men removing some steel boxes with the aid of a winch. The soldiers left in August 1975.

Romulo testified that he worked as a cook for the soldiers performing excavations behind the hospital in 1974. Romulo testified that the "PSC" on the soldiers' uniforms stood for "Presidential Security Command," and the "PMA" painted on the trucks stood for "Philippine Military Academy." The soldiers employed civilians to perform most of the digging. Romulo saw these civilians pushing and pulling boxes out of a hole and loading them into trucks. The boxes appeared to be old and in poor condition. Some fell apart while being carried, and gold-colored bars fell out onto the ground. Romulo observed approximately ten boxes per day being loaded into trucks over a period of one year. He testified that the soldiers were "very strict" about keeping the public out of the area and that armed guards were posted at the trucks during the loading. "
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 08, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Let us see who,s going to react on this!!!just sharing some photo's again!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: lagalag lvm on September 08, 2010, 11:52:48 PM
the drawing maybe from davao.. but the illustration below that is from a book about japanese fortifications in the pacific....am i right mickey?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 08, 2010, 11:58:26 PM
      Seen that one before. Check Post your Maps Here. Pg. 11 by Boylara. Whoever has the time can find the other one too, its here somewhere. ;D ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: raquel_lyks on September 09, 2010, 12:05:39 AM
that was posted by BL last March 16, 2010, 07:45:10 PM :D :D :D Post your MAP here on page 3 ;D ;D ;D

RaQz :) ;) :D

   
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: raquel_lyks on September 09, 2010, 12:17:54 AM
and also BL posted it last January 24, 2010, 07:46:50 AM Compilation of Maps by me... at  Post your MAP here :D :D :D

RaQz :) ;) :D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 01:03:11 AM
oooopppppsssssss somebody reacting and claiming this was sent on me by the year 2008 by one the guys I dont want to mention who??????? for funding :) ;) ??? ::)

THE UNDOCUMENTED JAPANESE SECRET AIRBASE 

A DPWH (Dept. of Public Works and Highways) engineer befriended a Tagalog-English speaking old Japanese straggler in the province of Pangasinan. The old man had stayed in his house for so long until he was repatriated to his country in Japan . The old man was involved in the constructions of military bunker tunnels and entombment of several treasures in Luzon during the war. One of the illusive if not mysterious is a Tunnel 8 type treasure site in Bagabag town, enroute to surrender hill were Yamashita was captured. The old Japanese straggler translated the Bagabag map into English and the said DPWH engineer was able to copy it by hand (c.f. Exhibit 1). I thought that this is an operational map, there are several types of maps, a regional map and a site map but it is seldom to find an operational map a fulcrum map. Whether the Bagabag site is authentic or not, I’m referring to a book Japanese Pacific Island Defense 1941-1945 by Gordon Rottman and Ian
Palmer (Available at Amazon.com), these two authors were not treasure seekers, however, their tunneling models is almost identical to a Tunnel 8 type structures (c.f. Exhibit 2). Off course Japanese military bunkers may vary in structures and design with respect to emplacements and terrain. Moreover, the old straggler further stated that the familiar Tunnel 8 in Bambang, Nueva Viscaya is only a decoy type Tunnel 8, and the true Tunnel 8 is in Bagabag and Tuao, those three Tunnel 8 formed a triangle in geographical position common in Japanese landmark identification. Bagabag is adjacent to Kiangan where the surrender hill and Route4 was located (c.f. Boy Lara Route 4). But how many Tunnel 8 and Tunnel 9? Besides this three, there are Tunnel 8 in Tarlac, Porac, Sual, Palanan, Tanay, Bermuda Mt. and Baler according to some researchers. The DPWH engineer can be contacted and relocated his latest activity was in the watershed area of Norzagaray, Bulacan. 

        In a related development, Sandy my province mate who is a private cadastral surveyor once stumbled to meet a man in a certain island in the Visayas with four sets of treasure maps. The maps allegedly came from an indigenous tribe and was said to be originated from a dying Japanese straggler in the said island. According to Sandy the map holders were illusive people and would not share a copy of that map, instead he glimpse only the map as the secret airbase of the Japanese, and the load of the map is similar to the Bagabag map a mind boggling 300,000 metric tons of gold. The same structures and construction, with a 6footer Buddha and Kamikaze planes inside the tunnels. The location is in a remote mountainous island of Mindoro . 

      The numbering and classification of Japanese treasure tunnels seems very confusing to me. In the Gold Warrior book by Sterling and Peggy Seagraves they have conjecture a Tunnel 7 type as 777 billion yen, a Tunnel 9 is 999 billion yen and so forth. But I’ve seen a regional map of Luzon which belongs to a certain officer with tunnel classification which does not correspond to a load factor but rather seems a simple sequential order. 

        According to a Japanese veteran Tetsunosuke Yamamoto, “THE BIGGEST TREASURE THAT I GOT INVOLVED HAS NOT BEEN DISCOVERED YET..."
Are these the undocumented sites he was referring to? 

      This link is an online Curtis map of Tunnel 8 in Bambang, Nueva Vizcaya surveyed by an American team using seismic imaging. According to those in the know this Curtis map of Tunnel 8 was a farce, it was wholly edited. President Marcos ounce tried to operate the site by constructing a hospital but he misses for several meters. 





 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM
 alam ko na pagkuha ng tunnel8 kahit 10,000ft pa ang lalim meron technology nyan. Sa Russia meron sila butas na 42,000ft, sa Africa ang gold ore 8,000ft kinukuha. Funder lang ang kulang. Ito study ko. Wala pa dito ang TBM (tunnel boring machine). Puro lang muna tayo ambition wala naman masama dyan.hehe.

SUBJECT : FEASIBILIY STUDY IN RECOVERING VERY DEEP BIG
VOLUME TREASURES.
METHODOLOGY : THE SURGICAL METHOD OF EXCAVATION USING STITCH DRILLING
TECHNIQUE

By making a series of drilling steel pipes of desired
diameter in the whole area of the excavation with
virtually pushing to the limit of depths even for a
shaft of more than 1,000 feet of the opening.  Stitch
drilling provides the ideal answer when there is no
area to pumped continuous water existing in any
treasure site. Coupled with dredging, grouting and
micro piling techniques you can even excavate an area
with out sufficient vertical clearance.

Procedures in Stitch Drilling

1. Drill high tensile strength micro piles around the
area you have planned to excavate
    whether cylindrical or a square hole of your
technical choice.
2. Underpinning the drilled micro piles down to the
treasure chamber.
3. Grouting the perimeter of the micro piles either by
cement or bentonite to block the
    water pressure from the outside of the shaft, or
used a ready groutable micro piles.
4. Implement a stitch drilling technique by boring
steel pipes of desired diameter in the
    whole excavation area.
5. Removed the steel pipes section by section and
reinforced the perimeter micro piles 
    with welded  structural frame.
6. There is still some remaining soil left at the
intervals of the bored pipes and this can be
    removed by advanced dredging.

Benefits and Advantages of Stitch Drilling Excavation.
   

      1.  You shall not require your workers to
descend on the shaft since you excavate 
            by drilling at ground level.
     
        2. You do not need to contend with poison
trap, (circumventing all traps is 
            guaranteed)
     
        3. You do not need to challenge the endless
flow of water by a series of
              submersibles.

        4. You can open the treasure chamber at ground
level.

        5. With no available place to disposed running
water in the vicinity, this surgical 
              technique can operate with a high degree
of success. In most cases multiple 
              water channels were directed to the
treasure chamber, not to even mention the 
              water at various levels. Compared this
volume of water to correspond by the 
              limited drainage system in the
surroundings therefore it is impossible to continue 
              the entire operation.

        6. Since you used the micro piling method you
don’t need heavy equipments in the
          operation therefore shunning a volatile
commotion.

        7. Micro piles can be drilled in areas with
limited vertical clearance. 

        8. You excavate the site by machines instead
of manual digging.

        9. Safety and protecting the lives of workers.


        10. It minimizes soil residue from the
excavation       

        11. By this method you can recover the
treasure caches on a directional basis like
            beneath the roads or rivers. (c.f.
Directional Drilling).
       
        12. You can operate secretly.
         
        13.  Avoiding financial disaster.

        14. A comprehensive retrieval system, a
surgical and very fast approach   

RECOMMENDATIONS:       

      Recovering the WW2 treasure caches without an
existing retrieval plan is always a daunting task. To
overcome nightmares and escape the intricate system of
recovering very deep buried war booties—a surgical
technique and expertise must be tapped at the disposal
of construction and dredging companies, in order to
avoid financial disaster and attain exceptional
success of the entire operation.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 01:14:06 AM
Let us see who,s going to react on this!!!just sharing some photo's again!!!

This alleged treasure map have been fiddled for several years by some treasure hunters already...tsk,tsk..kumalat na yan eh, marami na kumita at napordoy dyan bossing. ;D ;D
Why not, Try to post unfamiliar japs treasure maps...maybe we will appreciate or believe it  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 01:30:54 AM
it was not my map BOSS GBOY i just want to share our fellow TH that this map was  use for funding just to make the financier believe that they have a legitimate map..i dont want the others to on jeopardy.....PEACE!!!! ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: lagalag lvm on September 09, 2010, 01:33:29 AM
dream on mickey.... afterall its free! ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 01:58:43 AM
sir lagalag

    Im not dreaming of anything ......I just want to wake our guys in here that there is some groups that looking for fund just to filled their OWN pocket......IM NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDER TO OUR OWN PROJECTS.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 09, 2010, 03:02:26 AM
sir lagalag

    Im not dreaming of anything ......I just want to wake our guys in here that there is some groups that looking for fund just to filled their OWN pocket......IM NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDER TO OUR OWN PROJECTS.......

I think by now most of the members are aware of this....more so the old timers here......but good advice for the newbies

Janner
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 05:07:59 AM
markers??hope this one is not an odd shape rock also??????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 09, 2010, 05:47:18 AM
natural stone..does not make sense...and the holes are connected to japanese warloot? must be kidding..sorry thats only my judgement
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 09, 2010, 06:16:42 AM
Mickey,

Interesting story. BTW.. All your photos (especially the maps) are too small for anyone to be able to see any good details there. Don't you have any bigger photos?

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 08:05:59 AM
thanks admin ...here some big picture'hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 09, 2010, 08:13:09 AM
natural stone..does not make sense...and the holes are connected to japanese warloot? must be kidding..sorry thats only my judgement
And what maybe your logical explanation in arriving to your judgement? Markers, signs, symbols are interconnected with each other, maybe the next one is a yard, tens, hundreds or maybe mile away from each other. It is used to guide you where to go. It's not you find a marker, you dig on that spot. Think man like the Japs did when they burried their warloot as you say.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 08:23:05 AM
Admin,
Pls, post my japs marker picture...

Mickey,

Its definitely an ODD SHAPE ROCK, isn't?  ;D
However the square holes on the ODD SHAPE ROCK is man made alright, but was it a Japs marker?...hehehe thats one cent question?

BTW, naaaks you have a man made holes...congratulation ...how may more japs marker do you have...one...two...three? ...ipost mo na lahat dito para magkaalaman na hehehe
Will it be okey for you if you post all your alleged japs rock marker?....In return I will double or triple it...PARTIDA BA para magkaalaman na kung sino may pinakamaganda at marami japs marker, oks ba? ... ;D ;D ;D

1) EYES ROCK Japs marker....one eye is closed, other eye is open...the eyelash in one eye is well carved and defined...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 08:28:19 AM

2) HEART OF VALENCIA....rock boulder was carved and shape into heart...the next rock boulder beside it had a hole carving and gold bars was found embedded inside it.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 08:43:07 AM
Mickey,

Post all your alleged japs marker...and i will post mine also...gusto mo doblehin ko pa ang mga marker na naeepost mo dito eh, oohha? Lets see who will run out of japs rock markers?  ;D
So that everybody will know who had an odd shape rock marker or japs marker (beautifully  carved and well defined)...hehehe magkaalaman at magkabistuhan na? ano sa palagay mo?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 09, 2010, 08:57:05 AM
From GBoy...

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 09:33:42 AM
 I dont want to make any argument or compete to you  BOSS GBOY :) i know that picture from valencia negros????ask somebody in here we have a member that he knows that i took this picture before and he was also a member before of VMTH...he he he he it was near to a BIG BALITE and to a small river......i've been to Valencia before i have so many pictures of signs in there and i was the one who take this picture and not taken to another person..he he he peace!!!!IF you like I will gather all of my compilation of signs even spanish......on valencia most of the signs in there are spanish!!!!!!peace ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 09:47:13 AM
Face marker not an eye only..and you dont have to use your imagination that it was an eyes..peace
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 09, 2010, 10:04:52 AM

''And what maybe your logical explanation in arriving to your judgement? Markers, signs, symbols are interconnected with each other, maybe the next one is a yard, tens, hundreds or maybe mile away from each other. It is used to guide you where to go. It's not you find a marker, you dig on that spot. Think man like the Japs did when they burried their warloot as you say.''

well ghost
if thats what you say so be it...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: lagalag lvm on September 09, 2010, 10:32:01 AM
for you to know some facts mickey.. the bagabag site was done by arch ford.. who was a good friend of curtis...so how could you tell now that the map was a farce? that site was also pointed by  pol giga one of the real live pointers who has been in it.... would they tell the world if they got anyhing out of it? that we will never know....
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Post by: admin on September 09, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
for you to know some facts mickey.. the bagabag site was done by arch ford.. who was a good friend of curtis...so how could you tell now that the map was a farce? that site was also pointed by  pol giga one of the real live pointers who has been in it.... would they tell the world if they got anyhing out of it? that we will never know....

Yea, but did they actually recover anything there at the Bagabag site?

Mickey, those new photos are very big and perfect! Thx! And, yes, I can definitely see a FACE marker there.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 07:11:49 PM
Mickey,

"I dont want to make any argument or compete to you  BOSS GBOY Smiley i know that picture from valencia negros?"
What Valencia, Negros are you talking about?...it was found in VALENCIA, BUKIDNON hehehe thats hundreds kilometers away, oks ba?

Your alleged face rock marker is irrelevant or useless,you know why? bcoz its too small and almost covert by dirt,  what if flood comes down to the river...your alleged face rock marker is GONE FOREVER? bcoz it can easily be covered by dirt? Therefore your alleged treasure is doomed? am i correct? Kaya useless ang marker na yan, after few years burado o mawawala na na yan. Walang silbe hehehe

However, I will show you some face markers that will not be erased by floods or calamities bcoz its 5 feet and 10 feet big...beautifully carved and well defined. hehehehe

1) FACE CAVE TREASURE WITH (WOMAN GENITAL) ON THE FOREHEAD


ADMIN,
Pls. post clearly this face cave marker
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Mickey,

Eto paaaah....

SMILING HALF FACE
- actually it had a full face but partly covered by vegetation kaya tinawag na smiling half face, beautifully carved smiling face est 10 feet face, carved on cliff wall 30-40 feet high. mayron ka ba nyan?  ;D
BTW a small face partly hidden by vegetation is on upper right portion...probably 5 feet face carving....oks ba? Yong Japs mo kaya bang umukit ng ganyan? hehehehe  ;D

Show me some more of your markers (nabibitin ako eh)..and i may double it hehehe tingnan natin kung sino kakapusin..ILABAS MUNA LAHAT markers mo ;D ;D ;D....baka maglabas ako ng mga kakaibang marker, wala kang katapat, samatala yong face marker mo tinapatan ko ng 2 face marker malalaki pa hehee...
Pag ako nainis palalakihin ko pa marker ko...gusto mo kasinlaki pa ng bundok na bungo?...SKULL MOUNTAIN ooohha?

ADMIN,
Pls post my Smiling Half Face marker
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
translation:

Show me some more of your markers (nabibitin ako eh)..and i may double it hehehe tingnan natin kung sino kakapusin..ILABAS MUNA LAHAT markers mo  Grin Grin Grin....baka maglabas ako ng mga kakaibang marker, wala kang katapat, samatala yong face marker mo tinapatan ko ng 2 face marker malalaki pa hehee...
Pag ako nainis palalakihin ko pa marker ko...gusto mo kasinlaki pa ng bundok na bungo?...SKULL MOUNTAIN ooohha?


Show me some more of your markers, i might double it, lets see if who will run out of japs marker. Show me all your Japs marker, I might show some unique japs markers and you have no comparison.
While your face marker...I doubled it by posting 2 face markers...and they are bigger than yours...hehehe
If am annoyed I will post bigger japs marker...as big as mountain...or skull mountain...ooohhhaa?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 08:17:25 PM
Mickey,

BTW, as far I can remember I already posted the following Japs marker samples...they are well defined, beautifully carved, big and very clear...in fact, nobody argued that it was man made.
HOW ABOUT YOU? how many so far you have posted well defined and well carved japs marker?

1) Tabokno Falls Treasures..........waterfalls with several man made holes...ave. 10-15 inches diameter holes.
2) Face Cave Treasure................a cave with face and carved vagina on forehead. est size 5-8 feet.
3) Eyes Rock Treasure................carved eyes (one eye is closed and the other eye is open...with eyelashes)
4) Perfectly Cut Boulder Treasure....a house size boulder, perfectly cut in to 2
5) Smiling Half Face Treasure..........a 30-40 clifffeet wall carving of smiling face (est 10 feet size) and small face (est 5 ft size).
6) Heart of Valencia.......................a boulder carved into heart shape and beside boulder was engraved hole.
7) Triangle, Square, Arrow marker......carved on rock boulder
8) Iron Spiked Rock Treasure
..........a rock boulder embedded with 34  iron spike (3 inches height) forming straight line like a comb)

sample markers pa lang yan, di pa ako nag iinit eh, baka umpisahan ko na mag post ng unique at malalaki marker, waka kang pantapat o kapusin ka hehehe.... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Janner on September 09, 2010, 08:21:08 PM
Mr G if i may,

why cant you attache your pics in JPG or similar,  as doc. files need a special program to open them and then post...
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Post by: Gboy on September 09, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
Janner,

Sorry Boss, I wish I can but am not that computer techie. I only know some basic computer stuff.
If it was about Yam TH and stuff...I can do it easily even with closed eyes  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 09, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
ok, then we will have to be patient and see what we can do... :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
that's it......why the people get angry when they see some better than them.....look i am not  looking for a FUNDER!!!! IF HAVE THOSE BEAUTIFUL SITES THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH TONS AND TONS OF GOLD??? I WONDER WHY.....THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A PERFECT SIGN AND THEY KNOW HOW MANY TONS OF GOLD ARE INSIDE OF THAT SITE.....IF I WERE THOSE PEOPLE... NO NEED TO PUBLISH THE SITE ON THE INTERNET TO LOOK FOR FUNDER HE HE HE HE ...just  my one cent opinions.......maybe im not expert on TH AND DOESNT KNOW ABOUT THE COMPUTER..I cannot claim the site nor the picture which is not  mine!!!!the one im posting is picture of MINE not taking to another files!!!!!PEACE ::) ::)...JUST UPLOAD ARE YOUR SIGNS IN HERE!! i dont want to  compete on you ..thats why we have this site IS TO SHARE OUR TREASURE SIGN NOT TO SELL OR TO LOOK FOR FUNDER!!!!!peace ;D ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 09, 2010, 11:01:05 PM
mick.. that is called attitude problem. or more?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
try to look on this site...maybe you guys already see this but some are not...you will see the coil snake sign on danger sign and symbols
http://www.treasurehuntersuniversity.com/danger_symbols.html
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:15:36 PM
Mickey,

BTW, as far I can remember I already posted the following Japs marker samples...they are well defined, beautifully carved, big and very clear...in fact, nobody argued that it was man made.
HOW ABOUT YOU? how many so far you have posted well defined and well carved japs marker?

1) Tabokno Falls Treasures..........waterfalls with several man made holes...ave. 10-15 inches diameter holes.
2) Face Cave Treasure................a cave with face and carved vagina on forehead. est size 5-8 feet.
3) Eyes Rock Treasure................carved eyes (one eye is closed and the other eye is open...with eyelashes)
4) Perfectly Cut Boulder Treasure....a house size boulder, perfectly cut in to 2
5) Smiling Half Face Treasure..........a 30-40 clifffeet wall carving of smiling face (est 10 feet size) and small face (est 5 ft size).
6) Heart of Valencia.......................a boulder carved into heart shape and beside boulder was engraved hole.
7) Triangle, Square, Arrow marker......carved on rock boulder
8) Iron Spiked Rock Treasure
..........a rock boulder embedded with 34  iron spike (3 inches height) forming straight line like a comb)

sample markers pa lang yan, di pa ako nag iinit eh, baka umpisahan ko na mag post ng unique at malalaki marker, waka kang pantapat o kapusin ka hehehe.... ;D ;D ;D


BOSS GBOY  IM just sharing some picture of mine not to compete on you...the one that i have is clear and no need to imagine....but  you are the one who get panic..share your sign in here..THATS IT he he he ...as what you have said nobody's complaining about your post and your sign and site COZ NOBODY GONNA WIN ON YOU WHEN IT COMES TO ARGUMENT HE HE HE PEACE ..BECAUSE ON THIS SITE ..WE HAVE TO SHARE OUR  KNOWLEDGE AND TREASURE SIGN  NOT TO MAKE COMPETITION TO OTHER'S....AND LOOK I WILL SAY IT  ONCE AGAIN ...IM NOT LOOKING  FOR FUNDER!!!! ;D ;D



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:23:22 PM
the face marker sign was on top of the waterfalls ........there is a counter sign in front of this waterfalls
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 09, 2010, 11:25:12 PM
try to look on this site...maybe you guys already see this but some are not...you will see the coil snake sign on danger sign and symbols
http://www.treasurehuntersuniversity.com/danger_symbols.html

most of those signs are already posted here on site.
so..its really reading the threads prior to posting...lots of good stuff on here.... ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:29:57 PM
sorry sir JANNER..im just reffering to the coil snake maybe some guys doenst know about this one.peace!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
copper nail on ladder..it was on gabaldon (school) ladder on the third step
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 09, 2010, 11:47:54 PM
waterfalls where the markers are located
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 10, 2010, 12:31:37 AM
OMG oh my God. The northstar theory of isometrics was out. I cannot open it. Any idea if what happen?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 12:35:01 AM
cement block.....AGAIN IM NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDER TO FINANCE OUR SITES...JUST SHARING SOME PHOTO'S...HE HE HE HE PEACE TO ALL OF YOU GUYS!!!!! right  mr GBOY?????PEACE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 01:20:57 AM
Mickey,

that's it......why the people get angry when they see some better than them.....look i am not  looking for a FUNDER!!!! IF HAVE THOSE BEAUTIFUL SITES THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH TONS AND TONS OF GOLD??? I WONDER WHY.....THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A PERFECT SIGN AND THEY KNOW HOW MANY TONS OF GOLD ARE INSIDE OF THAT SITE.....IF I WERE THOSE PEOPLE... NO NEED TO PUBLISH THE SITE ON THE INTERNET TO LOOK FOR FUNDER HE HE HE HE ...just  my one cent opinions.......maybe im not expert on TH AND DOESNT KNOW ABOUT THE COMPUTER..I cannot claim the site nor the picture which is not  mine!!!!the one im posting is picture of MINE not taking to another files!!!!!PEACE Roll Eyes Roll Eyes...JUST UPLOAD ARE YOUR SIGNS IN HERE!! i dont want to  compete on you ..thats why we have this site IS TO SHARE OUR TREASURE SIGN NOT TO SELL OR TO LOOK FOR FUNDER!!!!!peace Grin Grin Grin Cheesy

Every legitimate business needs funder, wither I advertise it or not its none of your business. Almost all treasure hunting forum specially authored by foriegners...wither its buried or shipwreck treasures is asking for funding for their proejcts...again its none of your business.

FYI, If there will be no more people asking for funding for their legitimate projects...the world economy will collapse bcoz stock exchange (in which people are solicitng funding for their businesses) will no longer exist.

Since you seems to be ignorant in business practices For comparison, treasure hunting and mining is almost the same...THE MINERAL GOLD/TREASURE IS IN THE MOUNTAIN, trying to get that mineral gold or treasures needs MONEY...FUNDING, ETC, understand?
In other words, knowing gold is inside that mountain is not tantamount of having physical gold...YOU HAVE TO GET IT, OPERATE IT, DIG IT...and thats need funding, understand?

Bakit akala mo ba may perfect  Japs sign ka na makukuha mo agad ang treasure? Mukhang napakabobo mong treasure hunter  yata, HOY kailangan mo pa hukayin yan...and thats need money or funding to do it,understand? nahahalata tuloy na di ka treasure hunter eh....akala mo pag may maganda sign ka na yayaman ka na, nagpapatawa ka ba?  ;D ;D ;D

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Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 01:26:29 AM
OMG oh my God. The northstar theory of isometrics was out. I cannot open it. Any idea if what happen?

page 2 onwards works fine, however page 1 has disappeared..?? no idea why....
I'll get TW to check on whats up with that...

Janner
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 01:33:41 AM
Mickey,

Re your posted pictures in your (Reply 889, Sept 10, 1:54pm)

The picture of your alleged round and triangle IS SOOOOO SMALL....THAT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF PIGMENT OF IMAGINATION. ROCK MARKER  ;D ;D ;D....HOY,  uka2 lang yan sa gilid ng bato, pinagtripan mo nang round or triangle marker kuno? NAGPAPATAWA KA BA?  ;D ;D ;D

Look at my attached PICTURE OF TRIANGLE, ARROW AND RECTANGLE thats clearly man made bcoz its big...19-15 inches lang laki.....hinde yan uka2 lang sa gilid ng bato, kagaya ng marker mo.

1) TRIANGLE, ARROW, RECTANGLE....each length is est. to be 10-15 inches, beautifully carved on big rock boulder
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 01:47:45 AM
Mickey,

"I cannot claim the site nor the picture which is not  mine!!!!the one im posting is picture of MINE not taking to another file"
And when did I copied or post picture that is not mine, aber?
Excuse me...I had these pictures and markers in my explorations decades ago. I never copied from other people...THESE ARE MY TH TEAM TREASURE MARKERS COMPILED THRU THE YEARS....anong files ng iba ang pinagsasabi mo...baka sila ang kumupya ng files ko.


Re: the your picture of alleged copper nail marker on reply 896, sept 10, 2:37pm
This is another typical example of pigment of imagination Japs marker....pati ba naman pako naiwan sa semento napagtripan mo na naman na Japs marker kuno? NAGPAPATAWA KA BA? ;D ;D ;D

Do you want to see IRON SPIKE/NAILS EMBEDDED ON CONCRETE? gusto mo ba makakita ng original na mga bakal binaon sa concreto? hehehe....ikumpara mo nga ang marker mo sa akin...NAPAKALAYO, BOSSING nabibisto tuloy na pigment of imagination lang pinopost mong mga pictures, ayos ayusin mo naman para di ka mapahiya.  ;D ;D ;D

1) IRON SPIKE ROCK TREASURE....34 eron spike embedded on rock/concrete forming a straight line, like a comb......O ano, nasaan na pinagmamalaki japeks na japs marker, copper nail mo kuno, NAPANIS BA SA IRON SPIKE ko? hehehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 02:01:06 AM
Mickey,

Due to further scrutiny....
1) Re your picture of very small round/triangle markers ((Reply 889, Sept 10, 1:54pm) turn out to be just pigment of imagination in comparison to Gboys triangle, rectangle and arrow sign marker...pastilan, uka2 lang sa gilid ng bato, napagtripan mo nang marker...tinde naman ng imaginatin mo bossing, grabe.  ;D ;D ;D

2) Re your picture of your alleged copper nail embedded on concrete (reply 896, sept 10, 2:37pm) turn out to be just a nail of old gabaldon school bldg. Helleur old schools concrete had lots of nails on it kasi building yan eh, natural marami pako dyan nakabaon sa tabi at kung saan. How can you imagine it to be japs markers? nagpapatawa ka ba? lahat na slumang chool tyak marami nakausli mga pako nyan sa tabi2...napakatinde naman ng imaginations mo...hahaha  ;D ;D ;D

O ano hihirit ka pa? or kinakapos ka na ng orig japs marker hehehe...Partida, Sample pictures pa lang pinapakita ko, di pa ako nag wawarm up nyan hehehe mang hiram ka kaya pictures sa iba para masabayan mo ako...hehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 02:10:57 AM
hey GBOY nobody's winning on you when it comes to argument...ive been to many forum's the only winner i've seen in there is only you!!!!! YOU DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO TELL SOMEBODY THAT IS IGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO TH..one question???did you recover something on your treasure site??????NOTHING you're just ONLY OF LOOKING FINANCIER THAT CAN FULFILL YOUR POCKET,IM NOT BOBO(ignorant) AS WHAT YOU HAVE SAID!!!!!!LOOOK WHO"S TALKING???????? ..let the admin and the guys in here judge?????.....WE HAVE SOME SAYINGS...IF THE RIVERS ARE NOISY IT IS SHALLOW...BUT IF THE RIVERS ARE QUIET ITS SO  DEEP.......SAD TO SAY THAT YOU BEEN INTO DECADES THAT YOU ARE INTO TREASURE HUNTING..UNTILL NOW YOU DONT HAVE ANY PROOFs!!!!! DONT TELL US YOU JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME TO HAUL IT AND THERE'S TO MANY REBEL'S ON SIERRA MADRE..or MAYBE WAITING FOR SOME FOREIGNER TO GIVE YOU SOME FUNDS????he he heKUMITA NA YAN PLEASE DONT GIVE A BAD IMAGE TO OUR FELLOW FILIPINO TH!!!!! ....C'mon !!!!IF YOURE NOT A CRUEL PERSON OR RUDE THEY WILL HELP YOU TO RECOVER THAT THING!!!!..HE HE WAG KANG PIKON PAKITAAN NA LANG NG SIGNS!!!! ;D ;Dit is different the nails on the ladder comparing to the nails that you cannot upload in here ..maybe some farmers try to see where they can put the ropes of their carabao so thats why they put the nails on it wa ha ha ha ha .....BEFORE YOU MAKE SOME NOISE IN HERE TRY TO DISCIPLINE YOURSELF AND TRY TO STUDY HOW TO UPLOAD YOUR PICTURE'S ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 10, 2010, 02:20:38 AM
Janner

It's not the page 1 that disappeared, it's the page 6 wherein I am discussing my compass clock to locate the treasure. Maybe there is a hacker monitoring in this forum.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 02:24:54 AM
Every legitimate business needs funder, wither I advertise it or not its none of your business. Almost all treasure hunting forum specially authored by foriegners...wither its buried or shipwreck treasures is asking for funding for their proejcts...again its none of your business.

FYI, If there will be no more people asking for funding for their legitimate projects...the world economy will collapse bcoz stock exchange (in which people are solicitng funding for their businesses) will no longer exist.

Since you seems to be ignorant in business practices For comparison, treasure hunting and mining is almost the same...THE MINERAL GOLD/TREASURE IS IN THE MOUNTAIN, trying to get that mineral gold or treasures needs MONEY...FUNDING, ETC, understand?
In other words, knowing gold is inside that mountain is not tantamount of having physical gold...YOU HAVE TO GET IT, OPERATE IT, DIG IT...and thats need funding, understand?





AND THE WINNER IS GBOY!!!!!!!!!nobody's gonna win on mr gboy!!!do you think if the nails were exposed to the ladder like the one you show us nobody will notice????SENTIDO KOMON!!!!try to count the post you have on sell it to the foreigner's......just post dont make any argument.....ang pikon ay lagi talo!!!!!peace ;D ;D you are the telling us THE TREASURE HUNTING IS A BUSINESS?????IT WAS A HOBBY NOT A BUSINESS!!!!dont make a business on this MR GBOY......PEACE  ;D ;D ;D..i've been to mining also to be specific  in JOSE PANGANIBAN..BUT I NEVER LOOK FOR A FINANCIER TO FUND MY HOBBY...DONT   MAKE A BUSINESS ON IT THERE IS A KARMA IN THE END!!!!peace!!!!!!

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 02:38:20 AM
Janner

It's not the page 1 that disappeared, it's the page 6 wherein I am discussing my compass clock to locate the treasure. Maybe there is a hacker monitoring in this forum.

Page 6 to me is ok, and dated July.. not September. so check your browser as its showing you the pages in reverse order..

Janner
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 10, 2010, 02:39:38 AM
hi mickey the pics of pantyun with japanese character is this your site?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 02:40:52 AM
Mickey,

I have all the right to say whatever i want to say to you if I see what you are doing is not proper or right. Like posting PIGMENT OF IMAGINATION JAPS MARKERS. So that most treasure hunters here will have an idea what a "pigment of imaginations markers looks like". And basically only ignorant people post those kind of japeks marker pictures, correct. If you are not ignorant or bobo, you will never ever post it in the first place, correct?...as simple as that.

Re are Sierra Projects...WHY YOU ARE SO EXCITED OR ATAT2 OF OUR SIERRA SITES hahahaha ;D ;D ;D
bakit wala ka bang sites ngayon at pati yong sites lang namin ANG INAABANG ABANGAN MO.
Do you want to know our latest Sierra Treasure updates?...hahaha baka tumulo lang laway mo, wag na lang  ;D ;D ;D besides why would I tell you our letest Sierra updates, partner ba kita, helluer?

Don't try your best to convince us that your alleged nail copper marker is japs marker.....IT WAS JUST NAIL FROM OLD SCHOOL GABALDON BLDG as you said earlier...wag ka na kasi magpatawa sa mga markers mo, napapahiya ka lang eh na japeks markers mo.

I thought you want us to show some signs? where are your alleged japs markers....And I will post mine also...KINAKAPOS KA NA BA sa orig japs picture marker? HEHEHE Or you are afraid to post your markers for fear being labeled "pigment of imagination: hehehe  ;D

BTW, am not PIKON...bcoz I STILL HAVE LOTS OF JAPS MARKERS TO SHOW hahaha baka ikaw ang napipikon, mukhang kinakapos ka na ng japs markers eh...tama ba?  hehehe tips manghingi ka na kasi japs marker pictures sa mga TH friend mo hehehe


"you are the telling us THE TREASURE HUNTING IS A BUSINESS?Huh?IT WAS A HOBBY NOT A BUSINESS!!!!dont make a business on this MR GBOY......PEACE  Grin Grin Grin..i've been to mining also to be specific  in JOSE PANGANIBAN..BUT I NEVER LOOK FOR A FINANCIER TO FUND MY HOBBY...DONT   MAKE A BUSINESS ON IT THERE IS A KARMA IN THE END!!!!peace!!!!!!"
I don't give a damn if you prefer your treasure hunting activities as a hobby.
We are professional treasure hunters...we prefer our treasure hunting activities to work like a mining  business. WE want it to be systematic, formal...with business like approach...just like the way mining companies business does.

Are you envious if we professionally manage our treasure hunting activities like that of a business? You should give a damn bcoz thats our style in treasure hunting, we operate it like a business or like that of mining business...not a hobby
Ano ba pakialam mo kung galingan namin ang pagmanage namin sa TH activities namin katulad ng isang negosyo, aber? Kung burara ang TH style at pahobby lang,ang style nyo...problema nyo na yan. oks?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 02:49:44 AM
Mickey,

"BUT I NEVER LOOK FOR A FINANCIER TO FUND MY HOBBY...DONT   MAKE A BUSINESS ON IT THERE IS A KARMA IN THE END!!!!peace!!!!!!"

I don't give a damn if you never look for funding for your TH hobby....thats your problem
And you should not give a damn if we manage our TH activities just like that of a business, wala kang magawa gusto namin systematic at business like approach diskarte namin eh, ano ba pakialam mo? At bakit naman kami makakarma kung galingan namin ang TH management namin katulad ng pagmanage ng isang negosyo, aber? ANO BA PAKIALAM MO DUN?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 02:55:24 AM
MR GBOY ;D ;D ;D YOU'RE JUST LIKE A VOLCANO ERUPTING......REMINDER'S TO ALL OF US!!!! treasure hunting is a hobby not a business ..JUST TO FULFILLED SOMEBODY'S POCKET!!!!!!!! if you have a projects so operate it ..not TO ASK SOMEBODY'S MONEY FOR FUNDING!!! this what they called SCAM!!!! WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS IN SIERRA MADRE AND THE PEOPLE WHO HELP US ARE  MOSTLY REBELS..NOT LIKE YOU ASKING FOR FUNDING AND IF THEY ALREADY GIVE YOU THE MONEY YOU WILL JUST SAY.....OHHHH WE HAVE SOME BIG PROBLEM!!we already see the boxes but some armed came into us and took the BOXES....SO WAHT THE FOREIGN FINANCIER WILL SAY???nothing right?????they will end up scratching their heads and the wiinner is!!!!!!!!!gboy!!!!peace.....just post your sign and keep your mouth shut



to our fellow TH........could you please enligthen us who's mistaken????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 02:56:50 AM
hmmm
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 03:23:05 AM
Mickey,

Raising fund for our legitimate treasure hunting is a scam? Are you accusing us of scamming people? DO YOU HAVE COMPLAINANT BASIS OR JUST PIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION again?
FYI, its a big no-no in forum to accused somebody here being a scammer w/o a basis? alam mo ba yon?

FYI....Tseatc \ Deep sea Recovery operations is also fund raising for their treasure hunting projects. Would you consider it also a scam....or will you be biased for pinoys only...or foreigners will not be accused or they are exempted if they raised fund for their TH activities ?  ;D  ;D  ;D

Why would I obey your TH style that of a hobby. If we wanted it to be professional, systematic...business management approach of treasure hunting?

BTW, why would I post my signs...so that you will learn lesson from me...wag na ah....magpost ka muna ng mga signs mo at tatapatan ko, sabi ko nga syo dodoblehin ko epinopost mong japs markers eh.


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 10, 2010, 03:27:13 AM
OMG oh my God. The northstar theory of isometrics was out. I cannot open it. Any idea if what happen?

page 2 onwards works fine, however page 1 has disappeared..?? no idea why....
I'll get TW to check on whats up with that...

Janner

It seems that something is wrong with Page 6. I have no idea what's going on with that. I didn't do anything there.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 03:32:16 AM
Mickey,

If TW or Deep Sea Recovery operations raised funds for their shipwrecks treasure hunting projects, would you consider it scamming funder? or you are just too biased for pinoys only?

If pinoy raised funds for  his TH can be considered scammer?...if foreigners like TW  raised TH funds for his shipwrecks TH activites, not scammer? ano palagay mo  bossing?  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 10, 2010, 03:56:43 AM
Janner,

Sorry Boss, I wish I can but am not that computer techie. I only know some basic computer stuff.
If it was about Yam TH and stuff...I can do it easily even with closed eyes  ;D ;D ;D

You don't have to be 'techie' just to attach your pictures here. Your photos are all inside MS Word documents and that's no good. Just get your JPG files and attach them in the same way you have been attaching all your MS Word files. I've been busy working so didn't have time to do that anymore.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 10, 2010, 05:00:31 AM
Janner

It's not the page 1 that disappeared, it's the page 6 wherein I am discussing my compass clock to locate the treasure. Maybe there is a hacker monitoring in this forum.

Page 6 to me is ok, and dated July.. not September. so check your browser as its showing you the pages in reverse order..

Janner

I checked it many times but still I cannot open the page 6.. I smell something fishy in this forum.. But anyway I will open a new thread to discuss my compass clock,, Thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:04:59 AM
Mickey,

If TW or Deep Sea Recovery operations raised funds for their shipwrecks treasure hunting projects, would you consider it scamming funder? or you are just too biased for pinoys only?

If pinoy raised funds for  his TH can be considered scammer?...if foreigners like TW  raised TH funds for his shipwrecks TH activites, not scammer? ano palagay mo  bossing?  >:( >:( >:(

LETS SEE FOR DECADES THAT YOU ARE ON THIS HOBBY DO YOU HAVE SOME PROOFS that you recovered some golds???nothing right????wa ha ha ha ha ha just keep your mouth shut and start your diggings not to look for funder to filled your pocket ..YOU ARE A BIG DISGRACE TO THE FILIPINO TH!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 05:10:26 AM
Mickey,

LETS SEE FOR DECADES THAT YOU ARE ON THIS HOBBY DO YOU HAVE SOME PROOFS that you recovered some golds???nothing right????wa ha ha ha ha ha just keep your mouth shut and start your diggings not to look for funder to filled your pocket ..YOU ARE A BIG DISGRACE TO THE FILIPINO TH!!!!


What kind of proof do you want? Gold bar stockpile?
Okey fine, Are you willing to see cave treasures, what would be the  consequence after confirming it? would you let your eyeballs  stay behind so that you will not able to pinpoint treas exact location?...ano kapalit pag nakita mo?...tangagalan ka ng mata para di mo malaman ang treasure site location? ooohaha  hehehe PUMAYAG KA NAAAA IKAW NAGHAHAMON EH. hehehe  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 05:14:36 AM
Janner

It's not the page 1 that disappeared, it's the page 6 wherein I am discussing my compass clock to locate the treasure. Maybe there is a hacker monitoring in this forum.

Page 6 to me is ok, and dated July.. not September. so check your browser as its showing you the pages in reverse order..

Janner

I checked it many times but still I cannot open the page 6.. I smell something fishy in this forum.. But anyway I will open a new thread to discuss my compass clock,, Thanks

Nothing "Fishy" in this forum Mr Commando !! we dont corrupt members pages..
although we do at times delete offensive posts, which would mainly be me, and i tell you to !

And of course if you wish to open a new thread, then you are quite welcome to do so,
in the appropriate forum to if you dont mind. which would be...
" Treasure Marks, Signs and Symbols of the Yamashita Treasure"

thanks



Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:16:11 AM
YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF A PROFESSIONAL..IT DEPENDS?? i know some professional people they are VERY WELL SOFT SPOKEN PEOPLE NOT LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING...I KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS IF SOMEBODY POST SOME SIGNS AND TH SITES YOU WILL SAY ..IT WAS ONLY AN ODD SHAPE ROCK BEACAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT GET THEIR ATTENTION AND YOU LOOSE YOUR  BUSINESS..HE HE HE HE

ON SHIPWRECKS IT ANOTHER THING  IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT LIKE THIS ..WHY DONT  YOU PROVIDE YOUR OWN THINGS AND GADGET?? i thought your a professional?????not to look for foreigner that you can take the money and after they transfer the money in your  account ..you will say ohhh ..shit we are already tied the commodoties but the navy's see our ship with heavily armed and they took all the boxes of gold.....it was old tunes!!!!!  DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET A FUNDER WITH THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE???..i dont think so!!!!!  

PITY ON YOU MR GBOY!!!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :'( :'(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:23:13 AM
Mickey,

LETS SEE FOR DECADES THAT YOU ARE ON THIS HOBBY DO YOU HAVE SOME PROOFS that you recovered some golds???nothing right????wa ha ha ha ha ha just keep your mouth shut and start your diggings not to look for funder to filled your pocket ..YOU ARE A BIG DISGRACE TO THE FILIPINO TH!!!!


What kind of proof do you want? Gold bar stockpile?
Okey fine, Are you willing to see cave treasures, what would be the  consequence after confirming it? would you let your eyeballs  stay behind so that you will not able to pinpoint treas exact location?...ano kapalit pag nakita mo?...tangagalan ka ng mata para di mo malaman ang treasure site location? ooohaha  hehehe PUMAYAG KA NAAAA IKAW NAGHAHAMON EH. hehehe  >:( >:( >:(




SEE GUYS!!!!!! he had a pile of tons of gold and he wasLOOKING FOR A FINANCIER??????YOU MAKE ME LAUGH MR GBOY...WHAT DO YOU THINK OF US  STUPID  LIKE YOU??...try to take even A GRAM OF WHAT YOU SAID STOCK FILEOF GOLD AND BRING IT TO THE PAWNSHOP YOU WILL HAVE THE MONEY....OR MAYBE STOCK FILE OF STONES???he he dont be such a stupid ..just  post your signs!!!! dont tell me that we are going to learn from you???i dont think so again...maybe you want to sell also your opinions??? money..money money...MR GBOY TELL IT TO THE MARINES!!!wa ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:32:12 AM
hi mickey the pics of pantyun with japanese character is this your site?

sorry boss gold digger..yes it was one of our sites?do you have any idea of this?.....just be careful maybe somebody going to make a comment that this is a ODD SHAPE METAL!!!!! peace po..


I JUST WANT OUR FOREIGN MEMBERS TO BE ENLIGHTEN TO OUR MOST SCAMMER TREASURE HUNTER.....I DIDNT POINT WHO'S ..BUT YOU SEE SOMEBODY IS MAKING A NOISE!!!!maybe guilty!!! ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 05:33:39 AM
Mickey,

Bakit natamimi ka ng malaman mo si Bossing TW is fund raising also on his Phil TH projects, Di mo kaya batikusin noh?  hehehe  ;D ;D ;D...Pinoy lang kaya mong paratangan ? hehehe
Whats the difference between him and me...its still phils treasures,  and we also have some shipwrecks projects, isn't it? Ang BOBO mo talaga.

Where are your remaining japs marker that you want to show to us? are you afraid that it would turn out to be only pigment of your imagination? I thought we are here to compare and show it to fellow treasure hunters our japs markers? are you running out of japs markers?

"I KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS IF SOMEBODY POST SOME SIGNS AND TH SITES YOU WILL SAY ..IT WAS ONLY AN ODD SHAPE ROCK BEACAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT GET THEIR ATTENTION AND YOU LOOSE YOUR  BUSINESS..HE HE HE HE"
If you are hurt bcoz some of your alleged treasure markers are ODD SHAPE ROCK only...well we can't do anything about  it bcoz your markers are indeed ODD SHAPE ROCK, kahit pag baliktarin2 pa natin yan di magbabago yan, ordinaryong bato lang signs mo, korek?  hehehe


If you want to challenge me to produce cave treasures or gold bars...pwedeee...We can arrange for that, provided after confirming it, your eyeballs will remain in that place to avoid the site being exposed That is the strict condition of the au holder, oks ba? ...PUMAYAAAAG KA NAAAA KASI....hehehe  ;D ;D ;D

"i thought your a professional?Huh?not to look for foreigner that you can take the money and after they transfer the money in your  account ..you will say ohhh ..shit we are already tied the commodoties but the navy's see our ship with heavily armed and they took all the boxes of gold.....it was old tunes!!!!!  DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET A FUNDER WITH THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE???..i dont think so!!!!!  "

Indeed you are still IGNORANT in raising funds from foreign  investor, you think they would just send you money in your account? NAPAKABOBO mo talaga, mag isip2 ka nga....
You should do it the way how gold mining sector does in raising fund, do it professionally and in business manner. If you don't know how they usually do it, thats your problem kaya magresearch2 ka muna, NAPAKABOBO MO TALAGA di ka makaintinde kahit anong esplika... >:( >:( >:(.

Admin,
I do not have jpg files japs marker pictures...all my treasure files have been in docs format.
Anyways, its just alright if my picture is not posted, its just okey if only a few people will be able to see it. At least it would not be copied by some treasure hunters and possibly used it as their own TH files.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 05:35:42 AM
Mickey,

I JUST WANT OUR FOREIGN MEMBERS TO BE ENLIGHTEN TO OUR MOST SCAMMER TREASURE HUNTER.....I DIDNT POINT WHO'S ..BUT YOU SEE SOMEBODY IS MAKING A NOISE!!!!maybe guilty!!! Grin


Why you are afraid to name names BCOZ YOU HAVE NO BASIS, EVIDENCE, COMPLAINANT...OR WAS IT JUST PIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION? NapakaBOBO mo  >:(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:38:54 AM
how can you say a professional that he cannot upload his files????SINO ANG BOBO????wah ha ha ha

you are calling me not a businessman??im a well known businessman mr GBOY and i dont need a funder to finance my site...c'mmon you have a stock file of gold and still looking for funder??????dont be such a stupid...he he just cry and cry until you die!!!!!!nobody's gonna give you a money for your halucinating caves!!!!wa ha ha ha ha ha


EVIDENCE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR???you are one of the big example mr gboy!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 05:51:14 AM
Mickey,

how can you say a professional that he cannot upload his files????SINO ANG BOBO????wah ha ha ha
Napakabobo mo talaga, mag isip ka nga....I intentionally preferred it that way... BCOZ IF I WILL KEEP ON POSTING ALL MY PICTURES CEARLY.  TREASURE HUNTERS LIKE YOU WILL JUST COPIED IT, AND POST IT IN OTHER FORUM AS THEIR OWN OR PUT IT IN THEIR FILES...Thats why I am selective...wither its cearly posted or not...okey lang.

you are calling me not a businessman?
NAPAKABOBO MO, BULAG KA PA, di ka nagbabasa sa post ko...kailan ko sinabi yan aber?

im a well known businessman mr GBOY and i dont need a funder to finance my site..
I don't give a damn if you are a business man, finance your own site or ignorant treasure hunter. HOY, WALA AKO PAKIALAM SA BUHAY MO intiendes? napakabobo mo talaga.

c'mmon you have a stock file of gold and still looking for funder?Huh??dont be such a stupid...he he just cry and cry until you die!!!!!!nobody's gonna give you a money for your halucinating caves!!!!wa ha ha ha ha ha
Why don't you accept my challenge...you bet your eyes if you are brave enough.

EVIDENCE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR???you are one of the big example mr gboy!!!
Then prove it that I have scammed anybody, where are your complainants, where are the alleged your foreign funder that gave us funding and you are complaining about, aber hehehe...
if none...IT ONLY PROVES THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT, STUPID AND BOBO...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 05:59:58 AM
Indeed you are still IGNORANT in raising funds from foreign  investor, you think they would just send you money in your account? NAPAKABOBO mo talaga, mag isip2 ka nga....
You should do it the way how gold mining sector does in raising fund, do it professionally and in business manner. If you don't know how they usually do it, thats your problem kaya magresearch2 ka muna, NAPAKABOBO MO TALAGA di ka makaintinde kahit anong esplika...  



who's ignorant aber???i have a mining firm on JOSE PANGANIBAN TRY TO ASK WHO'S WHAT THEY ARE  CALLING TAGALOG IN THERE????AND YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT I DONT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF MINING AND BUSINESS??? baka tabunan kita ng equipments ko dun he he he he

and TALKING ABOUT MANNERS??? who's doesnt have a manner????INGRATO!!

before you say bobo(IGNORANT ) try to look of yourself on the mirror!!!??? AND ASK YOURSELF...AM I?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ::) ;D and try to learn some manners...and learn how to upload your  photos,,how can you convince a funde????wah ha ha ha  ha sumama ka na lang sa mgaUNTA baka maniwala pa sila sa iyo!!!!wa ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 06:05:01 AM
Mickey Mouse,

If YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT....why you keep on POSTING ODD SHAPE JAPS MARKERS, aber, ano ba tawag dun, TANGA O IGNORANTE? ano gusto mo itawag ko syo?

and learn how to upload your  photos,,how can you convince a funde?
Why would i will insist to learn to upload my picures, aber? so that you will learn the orig japs marlkers and  copy my treasure markers? ano ako BOBO?...bakit ko ipapakita lahat na pictures ko para natoto ka, ano ka hilo? I would prefer for you to remain IGNORANT ABOUT JAPS MARKERS hehehe
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 06:06:13 AM
c'mmon you have a stock file of gold and still looking for funder?Huh??dont be such a stupid...he he just cry and cry until you die!!!!!!nobody's gonna give you a money for your halucinating caves!!!!wa ha ha ha ha ha
Why don't you accept my challenge...you bet your eyes if you are brave enough.

TELL IT TO THE MARINES MR GBOY..SIMPLE AS THIS TAKE SOME GOLD BARS AND SELL IT TO MARKET OR PAWN IT TO YOUR NEAREST PAWNSHOP!!!!DUMb!!!!!no need to take your challenges coz im not interested!!!!!if you are saying that im not brave enough..try to research on JOSE PANGANIBAN WHOS THE ONE THEY ARE CALLING TAGALOG IN THERE????


this forum or thread is to share some ideas not to SELL SOME IDEAS!!! intiendes????..you cannot take any financier if your attitude like this MR GBOY????he he he he he
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 06:12:17 AM
mr Gboys pics
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 06:13:55 AM
Mickey,

TELL IT TO THE MARINES MR GBOY..SIMPLE AS THIS TAKE SOME GOLD BARS AND SELL IT TO MARKET OR PAWN IT TO YOUR NEAREST PAWNSHOP!!!!DUMb

Why don't you ask that to the au holder...I thought you just want to see cave treasure?...WHY THE HECK YOU DON'T ACCEPT THE ...GOLD vs EYES CHALLENGE hahhaha


no need to take your challenges coz im not interested!!!!!if you are saying that im not brave enough..try to research on JOSE PANGANIBAN WHOS THE ONE THEY ARE CALLING TAGALOG IN THERE?Huh
Brave kuno but AFRAID to take the EYES vs Gold Challenge....BAHAG BUNTOT KAMO hahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Ang astig tinatanggap lahat na hamon, intiendes?....ohhaaa?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 06:17:55 AM
Now listen up guys, this thread is getting to Hot, so cool down and take it easy. or I will have to moderate.

Offensive words whether english and  or Tagalog is not acceptable !! At ALL !!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 10, 2010, 06:19:43 AM
Mickey and Gboy,

Well I'm not sure who started all this nonsense but can you guys please COOL IT now?? This is getting a bit out of hand again.

Mickey, we do not tolerate name calling so please just stop doing that now. Such name calling like, SCAMMER, STUPID, etc. are really not allowed or wanted here. Can you guys please take your arguments to a private place?

Thank you, gentlemen, for your understanding.

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 06:26:22 AM
Admin,
I guess our YTH arguments are just in wrong thread...it should have been in RANT AND RAVE thread?  ;D ;D ;D

Mickey,
Hey, our duel is transferred to proper venue in rant and rave thread. Bitin2 kasi ako eh.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 06:27:43 AM
ADMIN AND JANNER


     SORRY FOR MY BAD WORDS AND  MANNERS I JUST GOT CARRIED AWAY.....HE'S CLEVER (gboy) putting bad words in tagalog........anyway i will say it once again SORRY FOR WHAT I HAVE SAID...... ALL I WANT IS PEACE!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 06:35:37 AM
Mickey,

HOY, You go to Rant and Rave thread....am waiting there.

HE'S CLEVER (gboy) putting bad words in tagalog
I just called it debate rebuttal technique?...hehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 07:04:39 AM
this cave was barred down when we operate....let  me tell you some stories about this

way back 80's there is one old japanese always renting a horse on that town and keep on going to this place but the last time he went there he tell to our fellow filipino that just strive hard on this site and you will never regret it..when we open this we found a stock file of stones which is covering the entrance of the cave ..we remove the files and the other side of the files are huge hollow cave and there is another file of thin rock as you seen on picture its about 2 feet of file rocks only and then another hollow place again and there's a timber on each sides after a few meters another files again we remove it and we saw the deep well with the human skeletal...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 10, 2010, 07:25:39 AM
Mickey:

When you say stockpile of stones/rocks i presume you are referring to RIPRAP, am i correct? If that is so, you missed something very vital in those rocks. There it contains the carrier of the SUBDIAGRAM of the inside of that cave; that includes the spot where the loads are.

Better find that FLAT ROCK. Good luck!

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 07:30:06 AM
what "Flat Rock" ??

 I dont see any mention of a flat rock in his post...???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 10, 2010, 07:35:04 AM
Yes sir, he never mentioned any FLAT ROCK but that is the secret of RIPRAP doors. It is hiding the subdiagram in one of those rocks. More often than not, the carrier of the subdiagram is the FLAT ROCK.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 07:40:15 AM
sir jin

    until now we never removed all those flat files of rock we just make an entrance to get into the other side of the wall..we found some holes on the floor the diameter of the holes are maybe 3-4 inches and the depth would be 8 inches..im out of the country right now only my friends keep on visiting the site.i think this weekend they are going to start again the clearing untill i went home
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 10, 2010, 08:39:36 AM
Mickey:

Please make sure what exactly is the diameter of those holes as they have different meanings. If that is 3 inches then, there is a trap down there.If that is 4 inches, you have a good deposit in your site.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 08:48:16 AM
Gentlemen,

I thought Mickey will want me to have a running post ...showing and exposing all our Japs markers and comments for each japs markers hehehe...
Anyways, since he didn't continue or probably run out of japs markers, I will just name/describe some of my Japs markers w/o actually posting its pictures, besides some of it was already shown to fellow treasure hunters re my TH files.
BTW ,I just want it to remain secret for the meantime...so that I will not be able to EXPOSED some of our WELL KEPT JAPS MARKERS SECRETS, dapat may nakatago pa rin si Gboy mga ALAS na Japs markers hehehe . oks na?

GBOY'S JAPS MARKERS (not yet posted for confidentiality sake FOR YOUR EYES ONLY hehe ;D)...in other words, PAKIPOT MUNA

1) SKULL MOUNTAIN TREASURE....the whole mountain was shaped into skull. Boy Lara had seen this already hehehe nagulat kasi sya dinaan danan lang nya dati yan... ;D

2) X BOULDER TREASURE MARKER.......an est 5 ton size  rock boulder with a man made carved X. A drum of gold coins was recovered underneath, just meter depth.

3) X STONE MARKER.....a basketball size stone with an obviously X carved.

4) EAGLE ROCK TREASURE WITH X MARKER.....a huge boulder marker carved into an eagle shape with wings and beak...a huge 5 ft X mark was carved by circular saw.

5) HUGE X MARK BOULDER...a huge rock boulder with 10 feet X mark carved on the boulder, the carved X mark can be seen even at 200 meters distance.

6) DRUM SIZE HOLES MARKERS.....several drum size holes and medium size holes was carved into solid rock along the river.

7) RAM HEAD MARKER.....a 5 ft RAM/GOAT head was carved beside the seashore cliff wall and beside a se cave...

8) EGG SHAPE ROCK BOULDER.....a 3 feet diameter egg shape marble rock was embedded on a cliff wall.

9) CHURCH JAPS MARKER.....a century old church, the brick flooring had a Japanese character embedded  and protruding from the flooring, made of red bricks.

10) CLIFF WALL EXHAUST TUBE.....a 6 inches diameter rustic tube embedded on the solid rock cliff wall, protruding 2 feet and 1 feet above water level along the river. Probably a guide towards underwater tunnel/cave entrance.

11) REV'S TUNNEL....a solid granite man made tunnel (10 feet high, 8 feet wide, 100 meters long carved out of solid granite mountain) ....inside the tunnel...1 foot long train railings (riles ng train) was protruding from the side wall pointing to other side of tunnel wall. While several rebars (kabilya) embedded in solid rock tunnel protroding from the ceiling, side walls...pointing to different tunnel directions.  

hohummmm...am sleepy na, wala pa ako sa kalahati, isusulat ko pa rin sana mga animals rock statue markers (pigs, horse, etc) at iba pang japs markers naipon namin eh.....kaso inaantok na ako....saka na yan, wala nang katunggali eh  ;D....zzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 08:50:07 AM
sir jin

  thanks again for your time and suggestion i will see to it that the holes diameter on the ground,anyway I think my friends are now on its way its weekend so they just go thee to visit the site again hopefully they succed before i went home..if you have time you can join us for a picnic to see our site..at least you will  meet nice and real people,we have plenty of sites in there there is another tunnel which have opposite holes on the side wall of the tunnel on the middle of the tunnel there is a room where you can rest and sleep..i will post the pictures when i get home..have you seen a SAKURA BEER??? i have plenty of it..maybe i can give you some as a gift!!!! its not for sale!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 09:04:31 AM
I have heard of a "Skull Mountain" but that one is near a shoreline/beach...
there is  cave a way up the mountain....

the same or different than yours?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on September 10, 2010, 11:19:50 AM
janner,

ur so unfair,when those two Mhunters,arguing their sites/abilities or what so ever post in half(some) tagalog..you dont remind/reprimand them..you've only commented like Offensive words whether english and  or Tagalog is not acceptable !! At ALL !!! but when i post in half(some) tagalog youve strongly deliberate to Post in English...

come on men! is this a part of discrimination? just observation men!


to my fellow hunters particularmente d BISAYA,

you know,mostly tagalogs discriminate us-the bisaya but actually it was the cebuano/bisaya was the first civilize than the tagalog....kita nag karsones na sila nagbahag pa, atong langgam naglupad ila nagkamang.tsk tsk tsk

commando,

permission to leave,sir oplok??? :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 10, 2010, 01:01:04 PM
JackBruno,

Don't take it so personal. Janner was just giving them a bit of leeway but in the end he did warn them about that. There's many post here that start in ENGLISH but then in the end there's one or two ending sentences in TAGALOG. Well, its hard for us to keep warning people to keep it in English but we're doing our best here. Please remember, we're also only human, and that's the bottom line.

Thx for your great understanding my friend!
TW
Title: Re: Rant and Rave area 4
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 10, 2010, 03:21:41 PM
janner,

ur so unfair,when those two Mhunters,arguing their sites/abilities or what so ever post in half(some) tagalog..you dont remind/reprimand them..you've only commented like Offensive words whether english and  or Tagalog is not acceptable !! At ALL !!! but when i post in half(some) tagalog youve strongly deliberate to Post in English...

come on men! is this a part of discrimination? just observation men!


to my fellow hunters particularmente d BISAYA,

you know,mostly tagalogs discriminate us-the bisaya but actually it was the cebuano/bisaya was the first civilize than the tagalog....kita nag karsones na sila nagbahag pa, atong langgam naglupad ila nagkamang.tsk tsk tsk

commando,

permission to leave,sir oplok??? :o :o :o :o :o
Jackbruno,
      Your comments to your fellow Bisayans about the Tagalogs discriminating  towards the Bisayans is unfair for I have also seen it otherwise and to say the least that the Cebuanos or Bisayans was the first ones to be Civilized, not only unfair but distasteful. CIVILIZED means showing MORAL AND INTELLECTUAL ADVANCEMENT , that  is not by GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION , either it be in Mindanao, Visayas or Luzon OR THE U.S. EUROPE,OR CHINA, that all depends on the individual and you are showing how advanced you are by your biased statement . Before you open up your mouth or even put it in print, think and understand what you are posting. You do not know the meaning of the word Discrimination until you have intermingled with other cultures. There is discrimination all over the world, be it on race, color, origin or religion. The Filipinos alone has these serious bias or discrimination, towards the natives, be it the Igorots, Mangyans, Aetas,Dumagats, Bagobos or whatever or even of different dialects . Open your eyes and really observe and do not be nearsighted and then, are you trying to create more gaps amongst the Filipinos or the TH of different dialects or geographical location , that is where it boils down to. Peace.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 07:25:53 PM
Gentlemen,

Civilized people?...RELAX PEOPLE...I think the MESOPOTAMEAN are the first civilized people ...not Pinoys ?  ;D
BTW, Am Visayan too....IGIT2, TUBOL2 ...AN IGIT IPAPILIT, AN TUBOL IBALIBOL, oks ba?  ;D....
(sorry admin its very2 difficult to translate this visayan rhyme  ;D  ;D ;D)

I have heard of a "Skull Mountain" but that one is near a shoreline/beach...
there is  cave a way up the mountain....
the same or different than yours?

Janner,

Its different place...Give me your email address I will sent the SKULL MOUNTAIN picture to you...but its FOR YOUR EYES ONLY not yet for public consumption bcoz the site is still confidential and some of our fellow treasure hunters knows the place...they might be able to go there, ahead of us.  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Mr Gboy, my email is on my profile for all to see.

and anything you send me is always kept as "confidential" unless otherwise stated...

and thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 08:26:18 PM
janner,

ur so unfair,when those two Mhunters,arguing their sites/abilities or what so ever post in half(some) tagalog..you dont remind/reprimand them..you've only commented like Offensive words whether english and  or Tagalog is not acceptable !! At ALL !!! but when i post in half(some) tagalog youve strongly deliberate to Post in English...

come on men! is this a part of discrimination? just observation men!


to my fellow hunters particularmente d BISAYA,

you know,mostly tagalogs discriminate us-the bisaya but actually it was the cebuano/bisaya was the first civilize than the tagalog....kita nag karsones na sila nagbahag pa, atong langgam naglupad ila nagkamang.tsk tsk tsk

commando,

permission to leave,sir oplok??? :o :o :o :o :o

of dear me. Mr JackBruno, other members have said it all, as well as Admin, so i really dont have to say much do I ??
so my friend, just follow the rules, behave and all is well.

If you dont like what I do, then go to the "Rant and Rave" area and post your moans and groans, there I can reply with comments suitable to your allegations.
How does that sound... ??



Title: Rant and Rave area 4
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 10, 2010, 08:58:27 PM
Gentlemen,

Civilized people?...RELAX PEOPLE...I think the MESOPOTAMEAN are the first civilized people ...not Pinoys ?  ;D
BTW, Am Visayan too....IGIT2, TUBOL2 ...AN IGIT IPAPILIT, AN TUBOL IBALIBOL, oks ba?  ;D....
(sorry admin its very2 difficult to translate this visayan rhyme  ;D  ;D ;D)

I have heard of a "Skull Mountain" but that one is near a shoreline/beach...
there is  cave a way up the mountain....
the same or different than yours?

Janner,

Its different place...Give me your email address I will sent the SKULL MOUNTAIN picture to you...but its FOR YOUR EYES ONLY not yet for public consumption bcoz the site is still confidential and some of our fellow treasure hunters knows the place...they might be able to go there, ahead of us.  ;D

   The first known Civilization was Sumeria at on or about 5000 BC but that was not what was meant by Jackbruno when he made his statement about Bisayans got civilized before the Tagalogs. I believe because the Spaniards landed first in the Visayas, his impression was the Bisayans got civilized first because they have first contact with the civilized world, meaning Spain, a foreign civilization. The Chinese has been making port calls in Luzon years and years before the Spaniards touched the shores of Cebu and the Chinese are also civilized, in their own rights, also another foreign civilization. 
    The Greeks defined Civilization as barbarism and brute strength conquering by justice and reason but ultimately civilization begins where chaos and insecurity ends and then there are 4 things that makes it up, economic provisions, political organization, moral traditions, pursuit of knowledge and the arts, take away any of those and civilization begins to crumble. 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
jackbruno

thanks for reminding our moderator i thought  nobody is going to notice????im the one that they giving some action but the other guy which is speaking bad tagalog just ignoring him....CIVILIZED????? LOOK WHO'S TALKING AGAIN????   i have a lot of friends coming from bisaya..mostly CEBUANO!! they are a very gentleman and they have a word of honor!!WE ARE ALL FILIPINO!!!! no matter what !!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 10, 2010, 10:20:52 PM
Ok guys, back to the main topic, it's getting out of hand again. ??? :-\
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
hey guys do you know the translation of these??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 10, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
Mr Gboy, my email is on my profile for all to see.
and anything you send me is always kept as "confidential" unless otherwise stated...
and thanks

Boss, your email address in members profile is hidden...

Besides the Skull Mountain....I will also try to sent the UNDERWATER CAVE/TUNNEL EXHAUST TUBE MARKER....its a japs marker guide for underwater cave/tunnel entrance along the river cliff wall. Usually the Japs hide their treasure inside the solid rock cliff wall along the river banks . The secret entrance is the underwater cave / tunnel underneath the river cliff wall. This exhaust tube is the guide or japs marker of the river cliff wall underwater cave/tunnel entrance. This is the area wherein you start to dive towards the underwater entrance.

I hope some THrs will understand that the areas of these treasure sites are places of some treasure hunters here in the forum. Thats why i never post it for confidentiality reason. Bcoz some of you might get interested and overtake us....baka maunahan pa kami sa area, nagkaletse2 na.
Besides when i post some of my japs treasure markers here , one of you here was able to identify the area and tried to overtake ust...kaya ingat2 muna sa pagpost2 ng pictures baka masilat pa.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 10, 2010, 11:16:21 PM
so it is......

my email is...
it is now unlocked and available to all...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 10, 2010, 11:25:47 PM
GUYS


        HAVE YOU EVER SEEN PICTURE OF  A DUCK SIGN WITH CROWN ON THE SIDE OF WATERFALLS????and on the water there is a tunnel entrance going to the cave with lots of tomb cement inside???I HAVE A PICTURE  OF IT AND I KNOW WHERE IS IT ON SIERRA MADRE!!!!!i dont care if somebody got interested to it they can join us this vacation asa long asa they can walk 8 hours..it was near to pacific ocean when you start to walk in KALAYAAN LAGUNA!!!!

I WILL POST THE PICTURE OF THE WATERFALLS WITH DUCK CROWN ON ITS HEAD..AND ITS NOT AN ODD SHAPE ROCK WHEN I GET HOME..IM OUT OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 10, 2010, 11:40:57 PM
Mickey:

I presume the duck's beak is pointing to the cave on that waterfall, however, be careful becoz the crown represents a trap which is within the deposit. Take precautionary measures and be safe always..

My humble opinion.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jackbruno on September 10, 2010, 11:54:33 PM
mickey,

ur ryt about dat sir,hope t_hunter noticed dat 2!

t_hunter,

i'll always do that-thinking b4 talking if not den i may be belong to TEAM  ARSAP lead by commando oplok....last 2007 theirs an excavation in southern part of cebu and they recovered antiques and they claimed that it came before the chinese era base on carbon dating and reports by a team of archaelogist not the ARSAP same with the surigaw treasure the gintong pamana..one of the evidence that they settled the visayan region before manila one thing also the distribution of goods..and in the late 90's their s a pending debate about that issue but the Cebuano historian(obkors wid evidens) just ignore the topic.after all we are all Filipino..
lyk i said,8 was just an observation sir,i have also encountered that one but no need to post in this forum (baka lumalala pa ang issue at ikagalit mo pa,)....hope that d tagalogs never look down-the bisaya(much better word dan dscrimination)...no hard feelings,again, just an observation base on OUR experience..no need to vie 4 supremacy..unity n peace :)
agree sir?

gboy,

nya bugnaw? ;)


tim n janner,

so be it.sirs! i thnk no need..


====Roger, return to base, i mean bak 2 d topic===


commando,

permission to leave, sir oplok? :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 11, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
I was under the assumption that here we are all one "Th family",

Like...NO- color,religion Race, dialect or whatever you may be....prejudice.

"we" act as one and treat all others the same....

so why bring all that stuff up in the first place ???

Phew man, take a break, have a beer settle down, relax and enjoy the friendship offered here. ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 11, 2010, 12:10:15 AM
SIR JIN THE BEAK OF THE DUCK WAS POINTING ON POND OF WATERFALLS AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE POND OF WATERFALLS WAS SO DEEP WE JUST DISCOVER THIS DURING SUMMER TIME THE WATER WAS SO SHALLOW SO CAN SCROLL ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TUNNEL AND WHEN YOU ENTER ON THE TUNNEL ...WOW!!! LINES OF TOMBSTONE WE TRY TO BREAK IT BUT WE NEVER DID..WE JUST GO THERE FOR  WILD BOAR  HUNTING AND MAKE SOME SURVEYING!!!so when we come back in there I WILL BRING MY CHEMICAL THAT CAN BREAK HARD CEMENT....IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO CARRY THIS CHEMICAL..WE TRY TRY IT TO A HARD CEMENT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CHEMICAL WORKS!!! like cooking of a popcorn and the smoke flew out.wheww since then i never touch the jar  of this chemical......MAYBE SOME OF OUR GUYS NEED THIS CHEMICAL?????its for FREE as long as the use are  legitimate!!! i will send my friend together to do the job well done!!!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 11, 2010, 01:54:18 AM
so it is......
my email is...
it is now unlocked and available to all...

I already emailed the Skull mountain and Cliffwall Underwater Tube marker.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 11, 2010, 02:23:44 AM
yep got them..very interesting to.
the skull mountain that i was shown was covered with jungle and had a cave located on the left side of the gully. but quite close to a shore line of the sea.

thanks for the pics, will file them and not show them either!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 11, 2010, 06:03:57 AM
SIR JIN THE BEAK OF THE DUCK WAS POINTING ON POND OF WATERFALLS AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE POND OF WATERFALLS WAS SO DEEP WE JUST DISCOVER THIS DURING SUMMER TIME THE WATER WAS SO SHALLOW SO CAN SCROLL ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TUNNEL AND WHEN YOU ENTER ON THE TUNNEL ...WOW!!! LINES OF TOMBSTONE WE TRY TO BREAK IT BUT WE NEVER DID..WE JUST GO THERE FOR  WILD BOAR  HUNTING AND MAKE SOME SURVEYING!!!so when we come back in there I WILL BRING MY CHEMICAL THAT CAN BREAK HARD CEMENT....IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO CARRY THIS CHEMICAL..WE TRY TRY IT TO A HARD CEMENT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CHEMICAL WORKS!!! like cooking of a popcorn and the smoke flew out.wheww since then i never touch the jar  of this chemical......MAYBE SOME OF OUR GUYS NEED THIS CHEMICAL?????its for FREE as long as the use are  legitimate!!! i will send my friend together to do the job well done!!!!

Mickey,
Please try not to type in ALL CAPS because some people take that as like SHOUTING to/at them. Just so you know. This is just basic internet ediqit.
Thx!
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 11, 2010, 07:20:16 AM
Gentlemen,

I will describe here the actual Japs marker, me and my TH team have observed and explored thru these years. So that some THrs here will have an idea the treasure markers that actually exist...not just on the treas code book.

BTW, For fairness to my team mates, I will never post some of the actual (confidential)  Japs marker pictures bcoz they work hard and spend a lot of money just to produce these Japs markers pictures. Sometimes we had spent 100K pesos just to explore the remote area and take a Japs marker picture. Thats how difficult and expensive to produce one good Japs marker picture....anyways.

GBOY'S JAPS TREASURE MARKERS continuation...(Location: Visayas islands)

1) STAR MARKER TREASURE (est. 7 feet tall)
    ....a huge STAR MARKER was carved on the side of the rock island cliff wall along the seashore. The STAR marker was "see though" carving, you can see the background on the other side. (Tagusan ang butas) The STAR marker was on an rock island cliff wall...when you see though the star carving hole. you will see the next island (Kung sisilip ka sa butas ng malaking star, makikita mo ang kabilang isla). We suspect the star carving was just some sort of telescope or window to other island...and the actual treasure was on the other island. The five corners of the star, could be the exact location on the other island.
I like this STAR MARKER carving bcoz it looks like Indiana Jones type of marker wherein you will solve the puzzle shape or corners of the star and see through the hole carving of the star into the pther island..DEFINITELY UNIQUE....KAKAIBA TALAGA. ;D ;D

2) ARROW CAVE (est. 10 ft tall
    ....If you are 100 meters away, you will see a rock island (est size 3 hectares solid rock) and the background is the main land. You will notice that there is a cave on the rock island several feet above the sea water level. And the mouth of the cave...is shape into a HUGE ARROW (10 feet tall) pointing upward. (ang malaking bunganga ng kweba ay malaking arrow nakaturo sa itataas). However if you see the point of the arrow...the upward background is the mainland of the other island.
    I suspect the small island with an ARROW CAVE is just the guide for the ship pointing the suspected treasure to the mainland.

3) LONELY PIG TREASURE
     A PIG STATUE...est. 4 feet long was standing on the edge of the cliff looking towards the sea. The height of the cliff is est. to be 10 stories high from the seashore. The pig statue location is more than 10 kilometers away from nearest barrio.

4) LONELY BENCH (chair)
     A CONCRETE BENCH (est. 4 ft long) was standing on the edge of the cliff facing sunrise. It looks like an ordinary and standard solid concrete bench. You can even sit on it and watch the cliff edge and the sea surrounding view. The cliff edge is est. to be 12 stories high. What unique about these bench it is located in remote jungle areas.
     I suspect these bench was used by a Japs general, sits or rest and watch the sea view. (Dito seguro namamahinga o nakaupo ang japs general hehehe). This solid and concrete bench can also be used by local natives to rest and enjoy the sea view  ;D

TO BE CONTINUED....tsk,tsk...
BTW, If I write/describe here all the Japs markers of our 100+ sites...it would take weeks/months to post it here? (aba...aabutin ako ng siyam2 nito kakakwento  >:() ...hhhoohhhuuummm....inaantok na ako   :D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: kim on September 11, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
SIR JIN THE BEAK OF THE DUCK WAS POINTING ON POND OF WATERFALLS AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE POND OF WATERFALLS WAS SO DEEP WE JUST DISCOVER THIS DURING SUMMER TIME THE WATER WAS SO SHALLOW SO CAN SCROLL ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TUNNEL AND WHEN YOU ENTER ON THE TUNNEL ...WOW!!! LINES OF TOMBSTONE WE TRY TO BREAK IT BUT WE NEVER DID..WE JUST GO THERE FOR  WILD BOAR  HUNTING AND MAKE SOME SURVEYING!!!so when we come back in there I WILL BRING MY CHEMICAL THAT CAN BREAK HARD CEMENT....IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO CARRY THIS CHEMICAL..WE TRY TRY IT TO A HARD CEMENT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CHEMICAL WORKS!!! like cooking of a popcorn and the smoke flew out.wheww since then i never touch the jar  of this chemical......MAYBE SOME OF OUR GUYS NEED THIS CHEMICAL?????its for FREE as long as the use are  legitimate!!! i will send my friend together to do the job well done!!!!

Sir just one concern. where can i secure chemical that can break hard cement. can you please me the details. Your presence might be of great help to our Th activities in the north.
I can share some pictures if you want.
 
Thanks. a lot

kim,
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 11, 2010, 07:59:20 AM
kim.
i'm from the north as well and we have chemicals for breaking concrete or hard cement. pm me if we can be of help
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 11, 2010, 08:19:35 AM
kim

  sure why not it would be a great honor from me to meet a new friends!!im from the north also just  pm me and ill give you the details tnx!!looking forward to it
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 11, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
SIR JIN THE BEAK OF THE DUCK WAS POINTING ON POND OF WATERFALLS AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE POND OF WATERFALLS WAS SO DEEP WE JUST DISCOVER THIS DURING SUMMER TIME THE WATER WAS SO SHALLOW SO CAN SCROLL ON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TUNNEL AND WHEN YOU ENTER ON THE TUNNEL ...WOW!!! LINES OF TOMBSTONE WE TRY TO BREAK IT BUT WE NEVER DID..WE JUST GO THERE FOR  WILD BOAR  HUNTING AND MAKE SOME SURVEYING!!!so when we come back in there I WILL BRING MY CHEMICAL THAT CAN BREAK HARD CEMENT....IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO CARRY THIS CHEMICAL..WE TRY TRY IT TO A HARD CEMENT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CHEMICAL WORKS!!! like cooking of a popcorn and the smoke flew out.wheww since then i never touch the jar  of this chemical......MAYBE SOME OF OUR GUYS NEED THIS CHEMICAL?????its for FREE as long as the use are  legitimate!!! i will send my friend together to do the job well done!!!!

Sir just one concern. where can i secure chemical that can break hard cement. can you please me the details. Your presence might be of great help to our Th activities in the north.
I can share some pictures if you want.
 
Thanks. a lot

kim,

Kim, there's a whole thread here somewhere that's discussing about breaking cement with chemicals, fire, explosives, etc. Just look for that and you will know everything.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 12, 2010, 02:00:35 AM
some gold from my mining firm

im not making any publicity in here i just want to share some pics and to prove that im not a liar and making some post which is not true!!!


at least  now i have some proofs!!!! ;D ;D ::)   do you???????
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 06:30:50 AM

GBOY'S JAPS MARKERS...Mindanao sites (continuation)
    These are strictly confidential treasure site, strictly for my TH teams perusal only. These was explored and visited by my TH team...several years ago.

1) SEVEN GENERAL TREASURE
    Its waterfalls treasure tunnel site est. 15-20 stories high. The suspected treasure tunnel will be found in the middle of the waterfalls. The mouth of the tunnel was covered by waterfalls cascading water. The MARKER is the man made stairways carved from the side of the waterfalls toward the mouth of the cave. Only 25% of the man made stairways are visible and intact. And 75% of the stairways is covered by vegetation and barred down or collapse thats why you cannot go to the mouth of the tunnel. According to the informant of this site, 50 meters from the mouth of the tunnel, there is a metal gate (rehas) and inside is a huge chamber full of treasures.

2) MYSTERIOUS STEEL CRATE
     A steel crate 90% was buried on the ground and it had a huge chain attached to the giant Lauan tree. The subject is guarded by armed B'laan natives in their ancestral land.

3) THE SAMURAI TOMB

    Look like a standard concrete tomb found in remote jungle in Mindanao. But the design on top of the tomb was SAMURAI MADE OF MARBLE and the concrete tomb had a bronze handle. Suspected to be the tomb of japs general or treasure vault. The area is rebel infested.

4) UNDERGROUND STALLION OF MT. MAGOLO
    A Japanese multi-level tunnel. The first level tunnel had lots of Japanese skeletons...and on the 2nd level it had a LIFESIZE STALLION STATUE. The tunnel entrance is thickly covered by vegetation.

5) DRUNKEN TOMB
    Cliff wall with cave and inside the cave a standard concrete tomb...but it had lots of Japanese wine bottles surrounding the tomb.

To be continued...pag hinde na ako tinamad kapoppost dito sa JAPS MARKERS, SIGNS, AND MARKERS THREAD ONLY.  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 12, 2010, 08:22:44 AM
stone marker and watefalls ..not in words..in sierra madre mountain to be exact on location..QUEZON


when we divert the water form the waterfalls we found this small cave on it....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 12, 2010, 10:25:55 AM
How far back does that cave go? Was there any treasure or artifacts inside there?
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 06:11:04 PM
Mickey,

Sorry to interrupt you...But plzzzz stop posting fake japs rock markers it may confuse the newbies here. Your 3 rock holes is obviously natural rock holes, not man made. It was not chiseled or drilled. your rock holes is very shallow not deeply, drilled carved or chisled.
Can't your TH team see the difference, between natural and man made?  >:( >:(
Next time be careful in posting fake japs markers bcoz it may cause expensive operation with disastrous consequence to newbies.

I will show you later our man made ROCK HOLES. Its obviously man made, well defined circle...not oblong like yours...clearly and deeply chiseled or drilled holes. I sent my Hole picture to Admin for attachment bcoz I thnk it had large files, I can't attach on normal attachment.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 06:31:37 PM
Mickey,

Your 3 Holes rock picture is obviously...UKA2 LANG YAN SA BATO (natural rock holes). Can't you notice that it was not even a perfect circles it was OBLONG AND SHALLOW? I thought you had some sort of expert TH team re markers analysis hehehe  ;D ;D ;D

I am just concerned with newbies here, bcoz they may be learning some wrong lessons re rock markers.
So pls. be careful in posting wrong Japs markers.

BTW, I observe you want to compete with me re japs markers (obvious naman na nagpaparinig ka eh, mapapahiya ka lang  ;D ). Pardon for saying this,  but I may be able to exposed your rock markers weaknesses here. And BTW, I still have lots of orig and beautifully rock markers at my disposal...hehehe medya2 pa lang ang pagpapakita ko ng markers eh  ;D

Orig japs markers is the most difficult to produce bcoz it would take a several dozens expensive explorations sites attempts just to produce one orig japs markers....hehehe. Thats why those "pretenders" that have alleged japs markers can be easily exposed.
Here in exposing orig  japs markers will be known the "pretenders and orig".(.dito sa pagpakita ng orig na japs markers magkakaalaman na...dito kasi magkakahiwalay ang labadang pula at puti hehehe)  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 12, 2010, 07:10:31 PM
From GBoy.......
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
Janner ,
Thanks for posting.


YTHrs,
Enjoy and observe for your perusal...the PERFECTLY ROUND, WELL DEFINED, CLEARLY MAN MADE AND DEEPLY CARVED...suspected JAPS ROCK MARKERS...obviously NOT rock natural cracks/holes (uka2 sa bato)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 12, 2010, 09:01:06 PM
Janner ,
Thanks for posting.


YTHrs,
Enjoy and observe for your perusal...the PERFECTLY ROUND, WELL DEFINED, CLEARLY MAN MADE AND DEEPLY CARVED...suspected JAPS ROCK MARKERS...obviously NOT rock natural cracks/holes (uka2 sa bato)  ;D ;D ;D


so where's the treasure? under that round and odd shape rock?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 09:18:07 PM
Commando,

"so where's the treasure? under that round and odd shape rock?"

That's a good TH question....

1)  You study the Japs code and try to analyze what a circle or hole really means.

2) Bring a metal detector and try to detect the hole, who knows some few gold bars maybe embedded in there (only Japs knows). Remember my HEART OF VALENCIA picture?...the Japs carved a perfect round hole in the boulder and inserted some gold bars in it and sealed it with cement. Maybe its the same, they carved round holes and inserted some gold bars in it. (malay mo baka kaparehas din nyan)

3) Conduct geophysical survey the surrounding areas...for possible markers or hidden treasures.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 12, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
Mickey,

Your 3 Holes rock picture is obviously...UKA2 LANG YAN SA BATO (natural rock holes). Can't you notice that it was not even a perfect circles it was OBLONG AND SHALLOW? I thought you had some sort of expert TH team re markers analysis hehehe  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 12, 2010, 10:49:16 PM
mickey please check you PM.. about your  rifles... thanks
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 12, 2010, 11:17:57 PM
Mickey,

In as much that I would like to talk JAPS MARKERS only, Its seems that you always want to talk out of topic subjects.

Re: Your alleged 3 rock holes marker (uka2 ng bato marker)...compared to my ROUND HOLES MARKERS...its too OBVIOUS, NO CONTEST ...Aren't you ashamed that still you INSIST to compare it? mahiya ka naman...no contest nga eh. hehehe.  ;D

".and im not pretending  of something..just wait when i go home i will show you my markers.
" That could be a good idea posting japs markers in MARKER, SIGN thread .....not fake gold bars or grams of gold that is posted here.  ;D

if you have problems on me and to my markers ..look im not selling my markers in here even saying that i spent thousands of pesos
...Are you insinuating that GBOY selling Japs markers? ...hahahaha...Nice try , you seems you have the habit of giving FALSE INSINUATION again2  ;D ;D ;D...a rypicala nd desperate move when you run out of THREAD arguments/rebuttal....and your only recourse to counter attack is base less accusation hehehe

Actually I have problems with you and your markers...bcoz you keep on posting fake japs markers or odd shape rocks....Its a mortal sin in YTH bcoz you maybe giving wrong information to newbie THr and could result to disastrous and expensive TH operation. Giving a false Japs markers info is a big no-no in YTH.
How can you justify...that ordinary rock holes (or uka2 sa bato)...become japs marker, aber?

"do you have pictures of what you said caves??he he he theres no.I have!!!."
Of course I do...helleur...We have more than 100+ treasure sites and some OF OUR CAVES HAVE ACTUAL PICTURES, DRAWINGS AND JAPS MAPS...Helleur?  ;D Baka isampal ko sa mukha mo ang mahigit isang dangkal ko treas files full of treas infos, maps,markers and pictures. (400 pages)...and some confidential treas cave samples have been seen by BOY LARA.

REAL GOLD ?there is no..i have ..
If you want to show real few grams gold...excuse me...are you joking or what?...Helleur this is not a small scale mining  thread to show few grams of gold. Show us real gold bars in stockpiles and in several gold bars bcoz that is what this thread and Yam TH is all about...not a few grams of gold in small scale mining...go to mining forum , post your few grams there. intiendes? ;D
(magyayabang ka lang palpak pa)

how about the CEMENT BLOCK  do you have?..no.I have he he .
We have more than 100+ sites remember? Do you think i will have no picture souvenirs of orig Japs concrete vault?...ako pa mawawalan? nagpapatawa ka ba? hahaha

ive been watching you tube guys.....i've seen a movie from IMBESTIGADOR there is one guy looks familiar to me..selling fake gold bars...watch out my friends  ...maybe you are looking at your self?  ;D

SINCE YOU WANT TO COMPETE WITH ME RE JAPS MARKERS, FINE...FIRST, POST YOUR MARKERS THAT IS SIMILAR TO MY MARKERS THAT I ALREADY POSTED.
btw,..when you posted a face marker, i posted mine which is bigger and clear...., when you posted fakes holes, i posted mine which is bigger and clear also...etc. TAPATAN MO MUNA ANG ORIG JAPS MARKERS KO (try to post first some markers in comparison with mine...maybe i will believe with you.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 12:49:31 AM
Mickey,

We have more than 100+ WW2 treasure sites...each treasure site had 2-5 pages of project information details, maps, picture, markers..etc. So you could just imagine how many actual pictures I have for each site?...and we have 100+ sites? And you have the balls to compare your alleged Japeks marlers with me...Don't even think about it.... :P....BTW, some of treasure hunters here had already seen sample of my TH files.

Ex: If your concrete block is only the size of hollow block. My Japs concrete vault picture is 4 ft x 3 ft x 12 ft (the wood molding of the concrete is still very clear, bakat2 pa ang tabla sa gilid ng concrete) embedded with 20 pcs. 75 gold bars....it was found in the middle of 100 hectares rice field....in La Union. That is the treasure vault that my TH team was almost massacred bcoz the town Mayor and his armed goons suddenly appear and over run the treasure concrete vault site.

And you also want to compare some caves japs pictures with me? hahahahha NO CONTEST.
Example: Ask Dindo Bayaua re Mt. Billionaire cave (or deadly cave) in Palanan that he recently visited. I already have a picture there taken as early as 2003 ;D
...so don't even try to compare your waterfalls, caves, vaults, holes, etc and other Japs markers with me....bcoz its NO CONTEST...Bossing mapapahiya ka lang pag nakipagsabayan ka, okey? Sa dinadami ng hinamon mo re treas files at markers, ako pah ???...mapapasubo ka bossing di kita aatrasan baka kapusin ka ng markers hehehe (Don't attempt to try to compete with me re japs markers and stuff bcoz you will be exposed and shamed)

 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 13, 2010, 12:56:35 AM
Gboy idol, is that in Bacnotan, La Union where you found that concrete vault in the ricefield? Just asking idol.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
gboy

 just showing my pictures of my found caves and finds...at least i have a good picture...siguro hindi ako napapahiya he he...how about you do yu  have?only by words he he he he ....peace...im out of the country right now when i get home i will post all my projects and sign


sir admin

  we found some artifacts on that cave like bottles and some kitchen wares and some pieces of........
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 01:47:15 AM
my sakura beer bottles collections plus one san miguel beer bottle century old



DRUNKEN BOTTLES!!! wa ha ha ha ha ha
not only words i have pictures...do you have like this?????
it was taken from one of my sites....you want more mr gboy???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 01:50:25 AM
here's more of my DRUNKEN BOTTLES ...he he he he

i have pictures of  my drunken  bottles...you want some ????

nnnaaaaa..maybe in the future im going to make .BAKAL BOTE BUSINESS
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 03:32:23 AM
Ghost,

   It was in Luna, La Union....that was more than 10 years ago.
We from Manila based TH team was invited to demolished the concrete vault. That was my first japs concrete vault, 4 ft x 3 ft x 12 ft. The composition looks like the road concrete or bridge concrete (parang pundasyon ng tulay kasi solid concrete talaga). Just imagine it was found in the middle of the maybe 100 hectares rice field. According to the rice field owner a Japs came and wanted to buy that concrete vault, thats why they became suspicious. The land owner tried to demolished the vault but he failed only a small portion of the corner was destroyed. During that time, it was newly planted rice and the concrete vault is the only visible object in the middle of the rice field. Thats why if you try to demolish it in the morning by burning it...the whole barrio folks will notice your TH activities.
   So we attempted a "commando style of operation"...first we detect it with pulse detector...it went crazy, confirming presence of metal inside. We started to gather some fire woods bcoz we plan to burn it. Suddenly town mayor arrives with his armed goons and ask lots of questions. I suspect the town mayor is a treasure hunter also bcoz he seems interested also with the concrete vault. We immediately leaves the area for fear being killed,  bcoz once it will be opened...there could be bloodbath on the spot.
   After a week, we heard from our TH asset that it was demolished and recovered more or less 20 pcs, 75 kilos gold bars. tsk,tsk,tsk...Anyways what we have is just a souviner picture of confirmed.... JAPS TREASURE CONCRETE VAULT.... ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 04:04:40 AM
Warning

Be carefull of the words you use.....Tagalog or English insults are dealt the same..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 13, 2010, 04:16:15 AM
From GBoy.......


Janner, hard to see those pictures clearly. Can you take them out of the Word file and make them like regular JPG photos? Actually, Gboy needs to learn himself how to properly post his own photos because posting like that is kind of wasted.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 13, 2010, 04:18:55 AM
Hmmm... Why is Gboy and Mickey always going at each others throats here? You guys.. can't we be cool here? Or, you already know why Janner invented the RANT & RAVE area. Take it there, gentlemen.

Nice bottles, Mickey.
Thx.
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
Admin,

NOTED.....Its alright, I will minimized my picture posting so that we will never exposed some of our TH secrets anyway.

We always clash bcoz Mickey keep on posting fake or irrelevant Japs markers or odd shape rocks claiming to be japs markers....which is a mortal sin in TH bcoz one wrong japs marker information...the consequences is expensive and disastrous TH operations. Thats why we should be very care full with our posted markers.

Since he posted fake japs markers on MARKERS AND SYMBOLS thread, naturally I will criticize it in this thread also which resulted always on running post.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 06:06:12 AM
thanks admin for your appreciation!!

maybe you want some souvenir?PM me i will send you one bottle as a display...


sorry this is ONLY the one i can give you  a JAPS JUNK....for me it was a rare collection even on the net you cannot find this!!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 07:07:07 AM
Mickey,

Aha, I know its usefulness....its a perfect depository of dengue mosquitoes hahahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 07:13:03 AM
if the  posts here are not about or constructive to this thread "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
opposed to a heated ego trip......

I will delete it!!!

"Rant and Rave" area is where to continue your heated debate, NOT here !!


many thanks for your understanding in this matter

Janner
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 13, 2010, 07:46:54 AM
if the  posts here are not about or constructive to this thread "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
opposed to a heated ego trip......

I will delete it!!!

"Rant and Rave" area is where to continue your heated debate, NOT here !!


many thanks for your understanding in this matter

Janner

Yes, I agree with YOU, Janner. I think these two guys just can't help but to keep arguing here over who's better at finding and talking about Japanese War Loot and Signs and Symbols. OK both of you are excellent so can we get on to the main topic again now guys?
Thanks,
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 08:04:46 AM
Janner,

Agreed...you can sent it directly to Rant and Rave thread...no problem
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 08:10:33 AM


I only have one problem though. I always indeed up alone in Rant and Rave thread with my beloved dancing partner gone missing ALWAYS ;D ;D ;D... I can't danced TANGO or debate alone, don't you?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 08:47:39 AM
I have cleaned out the TRASH (posts).......moderator, monitor and Janitor all in one..thats me !!

have a really good day guys
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 13, 2010, 08:56:07 AM
Mickey:

May i ask if you find those bottles inside the pit in cave or tunnel? Coz if you do, those whole bottles is telling you that what you are looking for is in  another location, not in the place where you found those bottles.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 09:05:24 AM
Mickey:

May i ask if you find those bottles inside the pit in cave or tunnel? Coz if you do, those whole bottles is telling you that what you are looking for is in  another location, not in the place where you found those bottles.

My 2 cents.

I dont get this one,

 if i found a empty bottle in a tunnel it means i am in the wrong place????
how do you work that one out ??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 13, 2010, 09:10:12 AM
JANNER:

Yes sir.. according to experience.. if you find broken bottles inside the pit.. they are trails.. you are in the right direction, however, if you find whole bottles, one of these bottles has a marker on its bottom. A kanji may be written on it or an arrow or pointer which will tell you to go on other locations not far from where you get those bottles.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 13, 2010, 10:14:17 AM
jin since your in a topic of giving advices, what happens if i found broken bottles inside my tunnel all together with whole bottles,and whole bottles with kanji letters  lets say of 5 bottles i got 3, can you elaborate this?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 03:15:21 PM
Gents,

If you found bottles or I may call it Japs junks....It means NOTHING....USELESS.

If you go to Wawa Dam, Montalban, Rizal it had several dozens of tunnel and caves...all of these tunnels/caves is littered with Japs junks...name it its there....machine guns, japs rifle, skeletons, helmets, ammos, bullets, artillery bombs, gasul size bombs, medicine ampules, samurai, bayonets, bottles...in fact mang Lino's junk shop in Wawa is full of these Japs junks. One resident his house was raided by police bcoz he had more than 10 sacks of Japs ammos and bullets and several dozens artillery bombs, his neighbor complain it to the police and yet this cave had NO TREASURE why? Bcoz those are just hideout or bunkers of Japanese not a treasure depository. I treasure hunt and visited Wawa several times in 1998. Some small/medium size treasure is still there but needs a mining company to dig it.
My TH friend went to my house and brought an artillery bomb from Wawa...and my mom almost kick my ass for that.  ;D

However, Pres. Marcos used battalion of soldiers to dig and found 777 treasure or Golden Lilly treasure. Battalin of soldiers dug up 15 ft x 15 ft x 50 ft deep from SOLID GRANITE ROCK !!! and recover the big vol treasures. The huge hole is still there on the left side of the dam. (nagbibiruan at nagtutulakan pa kami ng kasama ko sa lalim ng hinukay nila at 50 ft deep solid rock, grabe !! ). Me and my TH friend are joking and playing around at the edge of almost 50 ft deep solid rock hole, we are wandering how the heck Marcoses  were able to dig that deep out of solid rock? I couldn't imagine their logistics.

In other words, the big volume treasures was deeply buried and hidden ( How the heck can you dig 15ft x 15 ft x 50 ft out of solid rock, whereas a small TH team can't even demolish a small concrete vault? ) .
In other words...those several dozens of tunnels and caves are just resting/hiding place of japs soldiers thats why it is filled with junks. The problem with treasure hunters since these tunnels and caves are open and easy to enter, they thought that was the treasure is hidden hahahaha....wrong assumption.

IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS OPEN, IT DOESN'T CONTAIN TREASURE....
IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS CLOSED THEN IT HAD TREASURE (likethat of Roxas tunnel sites and Marcos tunnel sites...all closed they just dig and opened it up, oks?

Its only COMMON SENSE  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 03:28:19 PM

IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS OPEN, IT DOESN'T CONTAIN TREASURE....
IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS CLOSED THEN IT HAD TREASURE
(likethat of Roxas tunnel sites and Marcos tunnel sites...all closed they just dig and opened it up, oks?

BTW, one typical example of EMPTY open japs tunnel w/o treasure that you see here and posted by Boy Lara / Cap Miwa ....gets nyo ?  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 13, 2010, 04:38:26 PM

IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS OPEN, IT DOESN'T CONTAIN TREASURE....
IF THE JAPS TUNNEL IS CLOSED THEN IT HAD TREASURE
(likethat of Roxas tunnel sites and Marcos tunnel sites...all closed they just dig and opened it up, oks?

BTW, one typical example of EMPTY open japs tunnel w/o treasure that you see here and posted by Boy Lara / Cap Miwa ....gets nyo ?  ;D

Gboy,
      Is that so? So what you are saying now is All those Japanese Treasures in the Sierra Madres  that you mentioned before that is all ready for hauling and there is no need to dig is Empty of Japanese Treasures, your words, not mine, or did you forget?  ;D ::)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 07:31:18 PM
T_hunter,

Of course, they are still in there... half-dozen or more maybe? SECRET  ;D ;D ;D

Those Sierra Madre caves main entrance are barred down, small secret passage was open, the natives  accidentally found it bcoz some natives are fond of entering even small holes in the caves to get some bird nests...and voila they found it.  ;D

Some Sierra Madre cave/tunnel sites or Marcos reburried (maybe 3-4 cave/tunnel sites) they have native guardians. This tunnel entrance was close but it can be opened by rock boulder cover to hide the secret entrance, hiding the treasure, all you have to do is pushed the rock boulder and crawled underneath...and voila its there...5 feet high.. My TH partner Budz father put the treasure in there after they hauled it from the Japs shipwrecks in Cagayan during martial law days. And some treasure was recovered from Japs cargo plane and Budz father hide it in Sierra caves...with native guardian.
 
Anyways, everybody knows in Cagayan that Marcos had salvage a japs ship..where its actual reburried sites...SECRET  ;D ;D ;D. Our number 1 problem with this site? Pasaway na mga local politician (part time treas hunter), they always harassed my TH team every time we attempt to revisit it bcoz they knows us already. But someday we will get it...madidiskartehan din namin yan.....SALISI style...hehehe ;D ;D.
If we only wanted to compromise with local politicians there, we could have hauled it years ago, but we don't trust them....thats why its pending.

BTW, My TH partner Budz had still pictures of his father standing besides several au stockpiles more than 5 ft high taken in 1982...thats why we are 100% sure of that site...hehehe
In fact in 1983, Marcos and Budz father wanted this cave site to be sold.  Loyd's of London and Johnson and Mathey people have been blindfolded and herded to this site for inventory and assay accompanied by Budz father...unfortunately Sen. Ninoy Aquino was assasinated...all hell broke loss...rest is history.

Most critics keep on asking why these native au holders was not able to sell 1 bar or take them to pawnshop?...
Of course they did...they have sold some of it ALREADY, to local buyers. Thats why they became closed or "suki" with the buyer and GO DIRECT (nagkaderitsahan na) and we lost some of them already.
We lost maybe 3 au holders already thru these years bcoz they were able to sell it to local buyers when we are not around (NAGKADERITSAHAN nagkaletse2 na, madalas palagi kasi kami dito sa manila eh, di mo naman basta2 mattyempuhan kailan bababa yon eh.)

BUT WE STILL HAVE A FEW LOYAL NATIVE ASSETS AND GUARDIANS HEHEHE....secret  ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 13, 2010, 08:19:12 PM
Gents,

If we only have direct access to P-NOY and talk to him personally. We are willing to surrender these cave/tunnel treasure site. My TH team had already talk about these.

Budz late father wishes of the treasure share is....

1) 40% .....WW2 veterans and their beneficiaries, bcoz the old man knows most WW2 veterans didn't get compensation specially those WW2 Guerrillas that are undocumented.
2) 40%...... to filipino people.
3) 10%.......for the old man's treasure partners during martial days, bcoz these are the people who help them hide it.
4) 10%.......for us....tsk, tsk, tsk di kaya kami lugi nyan?  ;D sabagay its a huge treasure...5 old pictures was pasted together to accommodate the whole au stockpile, 5 ft high...  ;D

Of course, some of my Yam critics are doubtful about it. They will howl and cry endlessly. We don't give a damn. We are fully documented with these sites. Let those critics find their own treas site also.  >:(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 11:23:59 PM
From Mr Gboy..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 11:25:18 PM
Anyways, everybody knows in Cagayan that Marcos had salvage a japs ship..where its actual reburried sites...SECRET    . Our number 1 problem with this site? Pasaway na mga local politician (part time treas hunter), they always harassed my TH team every time we attempt to revisit it bcoz they knows us already. But someday we will get it...madidiskartehan din namin yan.....SALISI style...hehehe  .
If we only wanted to compromise with local politicians there, we could have hauled it years ago, but we don't trust them....thats why its pending.


whew kumita na yan...lets face the truth..if i have this kind of treasure ..i will not making any arguments on this forum or posting to much treasure hoards..and STILL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FINANCIER..C'MON..dont force yourself to be like this kind of  person .if you want to earn money do some work and not to fool people and making a big disgrace to filipino people.....my  friend one big advice be careful to your words and action..maybe XXX or IMBESTIGADOR or SAKSI is imbestigating you again..i dont want to see you again on tv

I THOUGHT YOU ARE NOT  COLLECTING japanese JUNK ITEM?? you make  me laugh is this your statue or you just take it to some bendor on the street that selling kulambo...poor   and pity  for you lets go on rant and rave..im nearly to go home...hope to see you soon
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
ooops..."Again" on tv...??

Qualify that one please......(link)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 11:37:57 PM
some pics for you to browse...no info given...what you see is what you get... ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 13, 2010, 11:39:35 PM
a few more..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 13, 2010, 11:57:47 PM
Your post was moved to "Rant and Rave"
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 14, 2010, 12:04:00 AM
opppps sorry sir wrong thread..peace
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 14, 2010, 12:18:30 AM
Here's my contribution of a photo of a real one and a fake one japanese treasure marker. Can you distinguish which one is fake?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 14, 2010, 12:54:42 AM
for me based on your shown pics all th markers were fakes. if you are a japanese would you dare to place your treasure marker in a movable object? 
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 14, 2010, 01:01:05 AM
for me based on your shown pics all th markers were fakes. if you are a japanese would you dare to place your treasure marker in a movable object? 
both rocks cannot be moved unless you bring heavy equipments in that remote place. nice try, but one is a real marker, your pick. :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 14, 2010, 01:07:50 AM
gboy you have a beautiful pics of japanese treasure markers but i'm sure all these sites was not yours. you are only collecting pictures, what for? for pictures album? for funding? you cannot hold gold bars by your hands in collecting treasure markers pictures...  
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: gold_digger on September 14, 2010, 01:10:39 AM
for me based on your shown pics all th markers were fakes. if you are a japanese would you dare to place your treasure marker in a movable object? 
both rocks cannot be moved unless you bring heavy equipments in that remote place. nice try, but one is a real marker, your pick. :)

ok engineer but how did you knew that it is a japanese treasure marker?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 14, 2010, 01:55:38 AM
1.  280 meters due South - Body of water

2.  163 meters due South - Cave/Tunnel

Unconfirmed though. Might also be wrong.

Just try to double check it. How? Call on the Cavalry (Joke).
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 14, 2010, 02:29:19 AM
DELETED.. told you it would happen !!!

Gold_digger,
gboy you have a beautiful pics of japanese treasure markers but i'm sure all these sites was not yours. you are only collecting pictures, what for?
Every treasure hunters usually  DIDN'T OWN ANY TREASURE SITES land area ...99% of treasure hunters never own their target treasure sites (di mo pa ba alam yan at tinatanong mo pa?) bcoz it was titled to somebody else or to the land owner or gov't property. However, some land owner or TH's  invited us to their site, asking whats on their site...or sometimes we explore on gov't land like Sierra madre jungle,etc. In other words, it was not owned by us, but operated, visited, or explored by us like ordinary treasure hunters does. bakit akala mo ba pag napicturan namin ang treas markers kami ba nagmamay-ari ng lupa? panu yan...ibang2 provins na napasyalan namin...kami nag mamay-ari? hahaha imposible naman yata yan.  

Why we collect pictures of the sites?
Why not? We spent lots of money going to the sites, its natural to have some souvenir photos of the suspected treasure sites for documentation purposes or further operation. Thats how professional we are, we always documents our explorations work?...Why you ask that? are you not taking pictures of your explorations sites ? well..next time you should.

for pictures album? for funding?
For whatever purposes we may require or needed, thats how professional treasure hunter, explorers, geologist does...bakit di nyo ba ginagawa yan? thats your problem......

you cannot hold gold bars by your hands in collecting treasure markers pictures
Who said that I would?...FYI, we collect and document treasure markers for our own documentation purposes...bcoz JAPS MARKERS ARE CLUES FOR LOCATING TREASURE...isn't basic in treasure hunting that you should know what japs codes, markers means? How the heck can you explain your makers to your friends w/o pictures proof?...you just memorize it and describe it?


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 14, 2010, 03:18:42 AM
Here's my contribution of a photo of a real one and a fake one japanese treasure marker. Can you distinguish which one is fake?

Cap Miwa,

I pick the first one to be orig?
The rock composition of the divided boulder looks different.
It look like the left portion and upper portion of the boulder are natural boulder...and the divided middle portion looks man made or concrete or whatever composition?

Just my one cent opinion.  :(
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 14, 2010, 03:41:17 AM
Gboy and Mickey,

NOT HERE ANYMORE!! Take that crap to the Rant and Rave area please!

TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 14, 2010, 04:24:50 AM
Admin,

I already rewrite my rebuttal with Mickey at Rant and Rave thread  :o
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 14, 2010, 07:42:44 PM
Quote
1.  280 meters due South - Body of water

2.  163 meters due South - Cave/Tunnel

Unconfirmed though. Might also be wrong.

Just try to double check it. How? Call on the Cavalry (Joke).

Now make this as final scanning:

1. 260 Meters due South - still, at the body of water.

2. 163 meters due South - Still, at a Cave/Tunnel

Still unconfirmed until it is dug and could find the yellow-reddish brown bars
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 14, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
for me based on your shown pics all th markers were fakes. if you are a japanese would you dare to place your treasure marker in a movable object? 
both rocks cannot be moved unless you bring heavy equipments in that remote place. nice try, but one is a real marker, your pick. :)

ok engineer but how did you knew that it is a japanese treasure marker?
why i know? hmm... how will i answer that? anyway, let's hear more from the others :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 14, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
Here's my contribution of a photo of a real one and a fake one japanese treasure marker. Can you distinguish which one is fake?

Cap Miwa,

I pick the first one to be orig?
The rock composition of the divided boulder looks different.
It look like the left portion and upper portion of the boulder are natural boulder...and the divided middle portion looks man made or concrete or whatever composition?

Just my one cent opinion.  :(
Great! Gboy, you got it right! You consider it as orig...what do you think it means? :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 14, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
1.  280 meters due South - Body of water

2.  163 meters due South - Cave/Tunnel

Unconfirmed though. Might also be wrong.

Just try to double check it. How? Call on the Cavalry (Joke).

Bro, does this refer to the photos? If it is, did it not say somewhat reverse direction? :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 14, 2010, 11:30:46 PM
for me based on your shown pics all th markers were fakes. if you are a japanese would you dare to place your treasure marker in a movable object? 
both rocks cannot be moved unless you bring heavy equipments in that remote place. nice try, but one is a real marker, your pick. :)

ok engineer but how did you knew that it is a japanese treasure marker?
why i know? hmm... how will i answer that? anyway, let's hear more from the others :)
Both are markers but I am not saying why I said that, take it or leave it. ;)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: ghost on September 15, 2010, 02:18:29 AM
What the f......, someone is Marked and Symboled just for the Yamashita treasure :o :o :o The whole of the Sierra Madre or even some part of the metropolis will become a warzone ??? ???
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 15, 2010, 03:53:01 AM
Here we go again..................
1 day I've been away and your both at it once more........

b]End  of leniency times fellahs...[/b]

all previous posts will now be deleted whether you like it or not !!

if its not constructive to the thread  in the future it gets deleted
.

you seem not to want to comply no matter what I ask.......

so  be it..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 15, 2010, 04:50:36 AM
Here we go again..................
1 day I've been away and your both at it once more........

b]End  of leniency times fellahs...[/b]

all previous posts will now be deleted whether you like it or not !!

if its not constructive to the thread  in the future it gets deleted
.

you seem not to want to comply no matter what I ask.......

so  be it..

Did I miss something there? It was originally Gboy and Mickey who were at each others throats. I didn't even see any bad message from either of them here so who are your referring to, Janner?
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 15, 2010, 05:02:39 AM
Those 2, Mickey and Gboy started again, so...I removed all offensive posts and gave the previous warning..


and all other members are are of the same frame of mind also.

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 15, 2010, 06:56:53 AM
DB:

I prefer the first picture sir. That is a marker or sign of an entrance/door.. of a cave or tunnel..just to coincide with your findings of a tunnel nearby..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2010, 08:40:47 AM
Cap Miwa,

Great! Gboy, you got it right! You consider it as orig...what do you think it means? 

Simple...since the middle portion seems to be man made concrete or whatever concrete composition, maybe gold bars was embedded in there...Only japs knows di ba, malay mo  :o.
All you have to do is scan the surface area with your pulse detector, if it contains metal detection...JUMP UP DOWN AND GIVE GBOY...a few golds bars, oks ba?... ;D ;D ;D...
If no gold is presence be ready by the nagging of your wife "saan ka naman galing? treas ng treas walang sure? hehehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2010, 09:14:36 AM
Cap Miwa,

BTW,  tell Boy that I meet this morning the last surviving live pointer of M.B....in our North East treas  playground.
He was the last surviving person of his TH team in 1982, who hauled 36 pcs, 6 kg from  treasure tunnel with est 2-3 ft high au stockpile (est. 30 tons). He can't go back to his site bcoz he is already old and had a stroke. We interrogate and interview him for about 4 hours just this morning...our jaw drops by his Indiana Jones type of treasure adventure re M.B. site. Me and my partner was awed by his treasure site story. We can't believe we have that kind of treasure site design here in reality, looks like it exist only in the movies.  ;D ;D
 
Actually we have already explored his site for 2-3 years a few years ago but what we saw was only surface markers. We never expect how complicated it was. Thats why when we went there a few years ago, we can't find it even if we keep on roaming around, crisscrossing and combing the mountain bcoz it has hidden SECRETS. hehehe

The different markers..cave/tunnel design...trap doors, revolving doors, vanishing falls.. Same japs markers or animals markers but in different positions with different meanings pala yon....etc...You will be shock how the  japs build it. ;D...Looks like..Indiana Jones or Nicolas cage type of adventure treasure site...GRABE  ;D ;D
I tried to draw it...but I admit I can't draw it in isometric view just like my ither drawings, but this site its too complicated. Maybe it needs Auto cadd to do it.. ::)....hanggang ngayon hilo pa ako panu ko maedraw lahat na details.  :D

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: boylara on September 15, 2010, 04:12:26 PM
Gboy just arrive here in Manila,,, txt me and we can meet again....Janner..don't be so upset...never mind, give them the freedom to post what they want as long as is not so below the belt...if your here in Manila we can meet..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2010, 05:24:18 PM
Boy,

I wish I can meet you but am still too busy right now with family/personal and TH stuff.
Some of my TH Team members had arrive from provinces (From Cagayan, Vizcaya and Samar) lots of meetings and stuff. Were planning for another assault this last quarter of the year...OPLAN PASKO (para daw sumaya naman ang pasko ng boys) hehehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 15, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
Gboy just arrive here in Manila,,, txt me and we can meet again....Janner..don't be so upset...never mind, give them the freedom to post what they want as long as is not so below the belt...if your here in Manila we can meet..

now why would i do that?
I dont get upset,just doing my job, in keeping the forum clean and respectable.
Being as i am the only one here doing it....... ;)

ah went to manila yesterday...should have said earlier...never mind next time...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: cap miwa on September 15, 2010, 07:16:22 PM
Cap Miwa,

Great! Gboy, you got it right! You consider it as orig...what do you think it means? 

Simple...since the middle portion seems to be man made concrete or whatever concrete composition, maybe gold bars was embedded in there...Only japs knows di ba, malay mo  :o.
All you have to do is scan the surface area with your pulse detector, if it contains metal detection...JUMP UP DOWN AND GIVE GBOY...a few golds bars, oks ba?... ;D ;D ;D...
If no gold is presence be ready by the nagging of your wife "saan ka naman galing? treas ng treas walang sure? hehehe  ;D ;D

I don't think that rock contains any au. Its just a marker to locate the tunnel, as DB said. And to answer previous post of GD, Why I know? Well, simply because we had the japanese with us who had the map of this place, used this rock as a base marker to locate the tunnel in the mountain and so on and so forth... the rest of the story is already confidential, i hope you understand.

The other photo of a rock, its not a treasure mark. its just a naturally marked stone, thats all.

Thanks for everybody's participation. I hope this would be the way a discussion goes when a photo of a marker is shown, to determine if real, what it means and the conclusion of it so everybody would learn from it.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 15, 2010, 07:21:36 PM
Cap Miwa,

Great! Gboy, you got it right! You consider it as orig...what do you think it means? 

Simple...since the middle portion seems to be man made concrete or whatever concrete composition, maybe gold bars was embedded in there...Only japs knows di ba, malay mo  :o.
All you have to do is scan the surface area with your pulse detector, if it contains metal detection...JUMP UP DOWN AND GIVE GBOY...a few golds bars, oks ba?... ;D ;D ;D...
If no gold is presence be ready by the nagging of your wife "saan ka naman galing? treas ng treas walang sure? hehehe  ;D ;D

I don't think that rock contains any au. Its just a marker to locate the tunnel, as DB said. And to answer previous post of GD, Why I know? Well, simply because we had the japanese with us who had the map of this place, used this rock as a base marker to locate the tunnel in the mountain and so on and so forth... the rest of the story is already confidential, i hope you understand.

The other photo of a rock, its not a treasure mark. its just a naturally marked stone, thats all.

Thanks for everybody's participation. I hope this would be the way a discussion goes when a photo of a marker is shown, to determine if real, what it means and the conclusion of it so everybody would learn from it.


Exactly...and how it should be opposed to arguments.....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 15, 2010, 09:22:40 PM
Here we go again..................
1 day I've been away and your both at it once more........

b]End  of leniency times fellahs...[/b]

all previous posts will now be deleted whether you like it or not !!

if its not constructive to the thread  in the future it gets deleted
.

you seem not to want to comply no matter what I ask.......

so  be it..

Did I miss something there? It was originally Gboy and Mickey who were at each others throats. I didn't even see any bad message from either of them here so who are your referring to, Janner?
TW
TW, Yep, you sure missed a lot, Between the two in question, grave threats, dirty names being used mostly in tagalog, bragging which  does not conform to our subject here, one is egging the other on and the other let himself get into it and lost his cool. We've been reading the same crap for the last couple of weeks and Janner and you has been very accommodating which is understandable but the persons has been warned about their unacceptable behavior but yet did not take heed and has resulted to grave threats which gives this forum a bad impression especially to the newbies.  We are already used to this kind of crap as we have been exposed to these kind of things so many times but these two take the cake and since I kept tab of what was happening from the beginning, one person was the bully and the other was'nt able to take it  and lost his cool. Civilized people unbecoming and it happens all the time.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 15, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
ADMIN,JANNER,T_hunter44


  sorry for my bad temper and words.im just a man in a mirror..if a man what im talking to... havent any manners ill be much worser than him..but if a man who is gentleman and have respectable to others im also a gentleman and respectable..if this is my grounds..its ok on me not  to post anymore in  here but i will never stop my dear friend to victimize newbies TH..peace to all of you...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 15, 2010, 11:22:21 PM
Dont be a man in a mirror, a copy or reflection, be your self, stand up and be counted..be your own man..

If you think your right, then stand up for it, if your wrong then a apology usually sorts it out..

But,... arguments in threads are not tolerated, as it ruins the thread, thats why i made the "Rant n Rave" area so members could let off steam, w/o offensive remarks,.....

Your more than welcome here, as is Gboy... but understand my view, i have to think of the majority and not the few who want to argue.

so. enjoy the forum, use the "RnR" area and keep posting the good stuff too...

Janner
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Gboy on September 15, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
ADMIN,JANNER,T_hunter44
  sorry for my bad temper and words.im just a man in a mirror..if a man what im talking to... havent any manners ill be much worser than him..but if a man who is gentleman and have respectable to others im also a gentleman and respectable..if this is my grounds..its ok on me not  to post anymore in  here but i will never stop my dear friend to victimize newbies TH..peace to all of you...

 
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bayot duwag ka talaga naghahanap ka pa ng kamapi kung matapang k magkita tyo s qcpd shooting range duwag bayot.....mamatay ka sa inggit whahahahahahaha "

(English translation: You gay coward, you are looking for a companion. If you are brave lets meet at QCPD shooting range you gay...you die with envy)

WOW WHAT A NICE APOLOGY...BUT SAYING THINGS DIFFERENTLY. ;D ;D
Only show  whats kind of insane person Mickey is.
BTW, Mickey aka Boy Daga...I already stays in QCPD camp  bcoz thats where I resides for the last 20 years...at 2:20pm today, the QCPD shooting range is still silent. Proof that I am always here right now? oKs ba? I only need 3 seconds for a group shot thats why don't blink ;D hehehe

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 16, 2010, 04:54:07 AM
i dont say apology to insane people and i never will ..ha ha ha ha naghahanap ng kakampi we go on private dont disturb the people in here..your just a big coward bayot...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jerzx on September 16, 2010, 05:27:55 AM
Guys ,  I think much better for you to send message personally , there you can discuss whatever is in your mind... I think both of you guys are gentlemen .... We are here to learn and share ....  Peace ..  :)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: admin on September 16, 2010, 05:29:03 AM
Guys ,  I think much better for you to send message personally , there you can discuss whatever is in your mind... I think both of you guys are gentlemen .... We are here to learn and share ....  Peace ..  :)

Yea, we already told them to do that privately many times now. Jeezzzzzzzzzzzzz....
TW
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: mickey on September 16, 2010, 06:03:39 AM
admin and jerx

      i always saying to my opponent that we go on private but he keeps on publishing our arguments ..he was just looking for symphaty of others..sorry gentleman for disturbing you
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Corel on September 16, 2010, 09:22:23 AM
OT

Guys.. all previous posts has been Off Topic already :( much better if you can bring your arguments at the RnR5 arena... peace, Christmas is just around the corner... be man enough.. 8)
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: fernando on September 17, 2010, 12:50:27 PM
hello brother forumer's here in tseatc! any of you here  have an idea  what is called an " ANCHOR TUNNEL?.. i'm a puzzled why we have this anchor tunnel symbol in every treasure symbol guide?.. i mean literally whats the meaning of anchored tunnel? advance  thank you for your replies and ideas!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 17, 2010, 04:01:41 PM
hello brother forumer's here in tseatc! any of you here  have an idea  what is called an " ANCHOR TUNNEL?.. i'm a puzzled why we have this anchor tunnel symbol in every treasure symbol guide?.. i mean literally whats the meaning of anchored tunnel? advance  thank you for your replies and ideas!
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Anchored tunnel means interconnected treasures/ tunnels underground
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 18, 2010, 08:54:26 AM
Commando:

Anchor tunnel means.. a tunnel whose entrance is underwater..
You have to dive underwater before you find the entrance..

My 2 cents..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 18, 2010, 01:30:59 PM
Anchor Tunnel  on Ask.com has something to do with concrete so I presume the tunnel referred to has concrete, either inside or the opening.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 18, 2010, 04:40:28 PM
This is the best explanation  and illustration of an anchored tunnel.. The treasures are interconnected.


Jin

If you have not mastered your code book. Please stop or else show me the markers/ signs that fit your code book.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 18, 2010, 05:08:55 PM
Anchored tunnel marker
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 18, 2010, 07:31:18 PM
Commando:

Why are you upset? When one is giving his honest opinion. Not all maps has a mark of an anchor. Why not ask some expert here, afterall, take what you think is right, di ba? This forum is intended to help every th the best we know how.. not a forum of insult and ill-mannered guys. Peace!
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 18, 2010, 09:10:37 PM
here the definitions of the word anchor,

Definition: Fig.: That which gives stability or security; that on which we place dependence for safety.

Anchor 3

Definition: An emblem of hope.

Anchor 4

Definition: A metal tie holding adjoining parts of a building together.

Anchor 5

Definition: Carved work, somewhat resembling an anchor or arrowhead; a part of the ornaments of certain moldings. It is seen in the echinus, or egg-and-anchor (called also egg-and-dart, egg-and-tongue) ornament.

Anchor 6

Definition: One of the anchor-shaped spicules of certain sponges; also, one of the calcareous spinules of certain Holothurians, as in species of Synapta.

Anchor 7

Definition: To place at anchor; to secure by an anchor; as, to anchor a ship.

Anchor 8

Definition: To fix or fasten; to fix in a stable condition; as, to anchor the cables of a suspension bridge.

Anchor 9

Definition: To cast anchor; to come to anchor; as, our ship (or the captain) anchored in the stream.

Anchor 10

Definition: To stop; to fix or rest.

Anchor 11

Definition: An anchoret.

anchor 12

Definition: a mechanical device that prevents a vessel from moving

anchor 13

Definition: a central cohesive source of support and stability; "faith is his anchor"; "the keystone of campaign reform was the ban on soft money"; "he is the linchpin of this firm"

anchor 14

Definition: a television reporter who coordinates a broadcast to which several correspondents contribute

anchor 15

Definition: secure a vessel with an anchor; "We anchored at Baltimore"

anchor 16

Definition: fix firmly and stably; "anchor the lamppost in concrete"

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Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 18, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
just looks like a anchor on a piece of glass to me,

 wheres the story leading up to your decision its a marker of anything..??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 18, 2010, 09:32:32 PM
Commando:

Why are you upset? When one is giving his honest opinion. Not all maps has a mark of an anchor. Why not ask some expert here, afterall, take what you think is right, di ba? This forum is intended to help every th the best we know how.. not a forum of insult and ill-mannered guys. Peace!

Yes, it is an honest opinion from fake code book. Show to me all your markers and compare to your code book. Let us see
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 18, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
Guys

To tell you the secret of anchored tunnels are the following:
1. 9 0'clock were anchored to 10 and 8 0'clock
2. 12 0'clock were anchored to 11 and 1 0'clock
3. 3 0'clock were anchored 2 and 4 0'clock
4. 6 0'clock were anchored to 7 and 5 0'clock
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: wiseman on September 18, 2010, 10:23:03 PM
 commando. interconnected concrete tunnels? how deep? are this tunnels conceald?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 18, 2010, 10:30:58 PM
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Yes, it is an honest opinion from fake code book.


Got the nerve to tell it is fake. Is his own code book says "THIS IS THE TRUE CODE?"

Even with my position, I cannot tell directly to any of my men he is wrong because THAT IS VERY VERY UNETHICAL...unless I am directly provoked or ethics calls for it as it is now. There are many ways to say the matter in a very subtle way. Shame...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 18, 2010, 10:42:51 PM
this all sounds so familiar...dont you think..??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 18, 2010, 10:55:50 PM
Yes...very very familiar...
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: orodelpiedra on September 18, 2010, 11:55:17 PM
commando hi,
do you mean that a small pyramid shape stone or gem will tells us the supposedly treasure depositions are interconnected by tunnels? where are we suppose to  find such marker? at the entrance or anywhere near the site? my site is supposedly a tunnel too. And there might be 2 or 3 deposition area based on rock marker. I found a 3-4 inches white pyramid shape stone (sawed white coral stone) at one feet depth and about 15 feet from the supposedly tunnel entrance or down shaft.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: t_hunter44 on September 19, 2010, 12:23:21 AM
      Commando reminds me of NS making his illustration about the map that was posted, give him credit for having imagination. NS used to do just that, adding lines that was not there to try to convince people that it is supposed to be as he imagined. That illustration of that drawing being a Anchor Tunnel is just a figment of his imagination, then the broken glass, for all we know that could have been incorporated in the glass when it was manufactured by the bottle company for some product in the market at that time, we will never know but if he claims that that broken glass is for an Anchor Tunnel, did he find the so called tunnel, if he did, some pictures is needed to prove it. The earlier illustration that he made to try to convince us was a Anchor Tunnel, saw other signs there like something resembling a bamboo maybe, the flagpole, box like markers and a few other things and a lot of Japanese characters but none was said about those and I am wondering if he was able to decipher its meaning or meanings. What really gets me is his attitude, that other people opinion is wrong and HE IS RIGHT and I remember what he said when he was new here, that he will weed out the people that is giving false information or direction, words to that effect. He was persistent in finding somebody to directly pinpoint the treasure location to him and now he is here claiming that he can do just that. Before I can believe somebody, I would like to check his credibility First and he has none as of this time. He was a failure before, he said so himself, and he has not convinced me that he is now a successful treasure hunter. Anybody can draw lines like NS but that does not prove anything until you have made a successful recovery,first is considered luck maybe the 3rd or 4th time and he has recovered consistently on his theory, then maybe I will reconsider but for now , with the info he is providing us of his theory, he will be remarkably lucky to find what he is looking for and I still stand to what I said to him before, to try his luck on other fields but if he does not change his attitude and behavior, I still see failure befalling him. I would have keep mum and let things go but I am not in a habit of watching people shove down their theories or ideas on somebody else throat and that was one reason why I pinged on NS. Now he is claiming to have the TRUE CODE BOOK, good for him and woe to everyone else that does not have one like his. We are all here to learn, even to teach and share experiences in this treasure quest and to respect  opinions or beliefs of other members here and  each and everyone of us has to make their own deductions to either accept or deny the theories presented to them.  My 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 19, 2010, 02:47:35 AM
well, thats pretty much to the point, and quite accurate too..........
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 19, 2010, 04:00:50 AM
Got the nerve to tell it is fake. Is his own code book says "THIS IS THE TRUE CODE?"

All Japanese code book are fakes even mine. The interpretation were all very confusing. The symbols are all correct but the interpretation were all inaccurate. Did you get my point. If you base your signs and markers in your code as true, then show me how it match.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 19, 2010, 04:06:43 AM
All Japanese code book are fakes even mine. says Mr Commando...then...

why bother having one ?

I mean,.. do you base your theories on your fake handbook or ............?? ;)

Just curious....
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: DINDO BAYAUA on September 19, 2010, 04:15:44 AM
You didn't get it, did you? The burden of proof of saying IT IS FAKE is on you, not me. Simple legislative process. When I say this... or that... I have my ready reference, such as books, etc. or based on my capability as proof. As Sherlock Homes use to say, SIMPLE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE...Watson
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 19, 2010, 04:23:34 AM
when the going gets rough..

the tough gets....lost....??

is that a song..??
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 19, 2010, 07:59:10 AM
When I sincerely and honestly give my opinions to a fellow hunter and in return insulted my person, i am sure  that the moderator, administrator or much senior member do the reprimanding. It is for that person to accept my opinion or not but i will never ever insult a guy who unselfishly very much willing to give his honest opinion.

As to the book they keep pointing on me, it's one of those books i bought as a reference before i landed on this hobby of ours. Of course, treasure books is considered one of our armaments in this hobby plus the different kinds of gadgets which some of us have.

Regarding this ANCHOR MARKER.. may I ask everyone here in the forum where this thing is being used? Is it used in the land or water? Is it use above the water or under the water? Well, your answer is as good as mine.. A tunnel that is anchored in the water..Now, if all tunnels have interconnections like an octupus.. even inside the mountain.. will you call it ANCHOR TUNNEL? Where is the water then?


Just for a lost few, please.. please.., be well-mannered and act as an educated person. Let us help one another.. Peace!

Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 19, 2010, 08:40:48 AM
Guys:

Please if you find this kind of marker in your site(dig), please take extra precationary measure coz the TRAP IS WITHIN THE DEPOSIT!! This marker (in 2 diff. presentation) is called PENTAGRAM.
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 19, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
is that from personal experience or, just your opinion... ?
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Commando on September 19, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
Guys:

Please if you find this kind of marker in your site(dig), please take extra precationary measure coz the TRAP IS WITHIN THE DEPOSIT!! This marker (in 2 diff. presentation) is called PENTAGRAM.

Jin I really had a bad taste in your post. This is the first time you shown your markers and it's inaccurate. How can I believe you? Your presentation is not a pentagram. It's a hexagram. Pentagram has 5 sided star and hexagram has 6 sided star. Now please stop your non sense post and delusional imaginations..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 19, 2010, 06:48:23 PM
Guys:

Please if you find this kind of marker in your site(dig), please take extra precationary measure coz the TRAP IS WITHIN THE DEPOSIT!! This marker (in 2 diff. presentation) is called PENTAGRAM.

Jin I really had a bad taste in your post. This is the first time you shown your markers and it's inaccurate. How can I believe you? Your presentation is not a pentagram. It's a hexagram. Pentagram has 5 sided star and hexagram has 6 sided star. Now please stop your non sense post and delusional imaginations..


Not exactly a kindly response to someones post was it Mr Commando?
Unless of course you are perfect and above everyone else...??


Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 20, 2010, 05:27:22 AM
Janner:

It's from personal experience.. About commando..the way he commented shows only his personal character of what kind of person he is..

It just goes on and on and on..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: jin on September 20, 2010, 05:34:53 AM
Janner:

I think the man is gravely ill...he is just unleashing his temper.. Perhaps we could be of help..
Title: Re: "mark and symbols of the yamashita treasure"
Post by: Janner on September 20, 2010, 05:39:35 AM
he only answers questions that hold up his theory, my questions were ignored...
but thats the type he is ! Another NS !!